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    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Rural Mail Carriers
    2. Thanks for the penny candy story: The stories about the mail carriers are wonderful. I too felt my heart strings tugged by memories when you spoke of the love people have for their old mail men. My grandfather used to take my sister and me on his mail route down in the hills around Phoenix/Mechancisburg in Yazoo County. We were allowed to roll and put bands on the papers and take the mail out and make change, got drinks from icy filled coolers at small country stores, moon pies, picking wildflowers --- oh the memories. I wonder if my interest in genealogy may have began back in those days as Granddad would say, "That is your cousin Zelda, the daughter of Mary's brother Dan." and so on down the road. It was a great time of joy to spend with him and get to know the branches of the families. Thanks for sharing your wonderful memories with us. I have been getting the Attala digest looking for mentions of Eldridge/Darnell families who lived in Attala County about 1850-1870. One of these days I am going to find someone who knows who the parents of George L Eldridge and Lucinda Darnell Eldridge are for sure. We have several possibilities. In the meantime I find the information provided on the board by the participants helpful and very interesting. Thanks to all for their contributions. Marilyn smith

    05/13/2010 01:00:27
    1. [MSATTALA] Charles McAdams
    2. Attala Director
    3. Charles, All of the photos that I mis-laid some time ago have been posted to the Attala web site. You can view them here: http://attala.msghn.org/famphoto1.html As to your question about creating a CD of all of your photographs. The CD that was for sale was created by a member of the Attala County Historical Society and contained photos from their collection. Most of the photos were of downtown Kosciusko, I believe. All of the proceeds went to the society to help maintain their building. Creating a CD of all of your photos would be a considerable undertaking. Since they are mostly of people, each persons name would need to be superimposed so that the viewer knew who they were looking at. Only those have a connection to McAdams would be interested in purchasing such a CD, I'm afraid. Any time you want to submit more photos, feel free. Everette Carr ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles To: Attala Director Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:55 PM Subject: Re: about posting THANK YOU; how would i donate picture for the CD. that some one used to make and sell to raise money; for Attala Co wed site or the genealogy room at the library; don;t have time to make one my self; Charles McAdams, p o box 20184 white hall ark 71612 tenman.1@sbcglobal.net phone 870 247 5123 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles" <tenman.1@sbcglobal.net> To: <msattala@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Thanks > Thank you very much; i thought i was just sending to much; i now that i > have a lot of pictures and you can't post them all ; my grandmother's and > mother keep a lot of old pictures; > > Charles McAdams, > p o box 20184 > white hall ark > 71612 > tenman.1@sbcglobal.net > phone 870 247 5123 > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Attala Director <attalacoordinator@gmail.com> > To: msattala@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, April 24, 2010 2:44:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Thanks > > Charles, > > I have e-mails that you sent to the list dating back to March 2008. I > re-read every posting you sent to the list which included subjects such as > the old cotton mill, the smallpox outbreak of 1909, the Sand Hill > Cemetery, > flag draped coffins, childhood memories and... Lo and behold, there were > three e-mails from you in March and April 2009 that contained photos and > the > e-mails had never been opened. > > I owe you my profound apologies. Apparently I could not get to them right > away and somehow they were overlooked later. I am sorry and I will > address > this immediately. > > Everette > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles" <tenman.1@sbcglobal.net> > To: <msattala@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Thanks > > >> what kind of information, i have seen pictures and there history, and >> they >> never was posted; >> thought the site had stop posting, >> >> Charles McAdams, >> p o box 20184 >> white hall ark >> 71612 >> tenman.1@sbcglobal.net >> phone 870 247 5123 >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Attala Director <attalacoordinator@gmail.com> >> To: msattala@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 11:46:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Thanks >> >> If anyone has any information or data on Attala County, please submit to >> the >> Attala County Director for the Mississippi Genealogy and History Network >> at: >> >> attaladirector@gmail.com; >> >> Visit the Attala County genealogy and history site at: >> >> http://attala.msghn.org/ >> >> I could use your help. >> >> Everette Carr >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Douglas Cummins" <dcumyns@gmail.com> >> To: <MSATTALA@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:29 PM >> Subject: [MSATTALA] Thanks >> >> >> Thanks David, >> >> >> >> This genealogy stuff to me is kinda like growing (30's and 40's) up on my >> parent’s farm in the MS delta. It takes a bit of weeding now and then >> before >> you get to the heart of the matter. >> >> >> Ever think about taking over the Attala's site again? At times it appears >> to >> be on life support. >> >> >> Doug >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/13/2010 08:07:58
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins; West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames.
    2. Dennis Boswell
    3. Ann, your note about Clyde Campbell reminded me of a note your first Cousin, Ruth Ray Campbell sent me in 1999. Ruth Ray went on to say, "Dennis, Since you have decided to do a novel about the Rocky Point-Possumneck area, I decided to tell you an interesting tale that Harvey [Land Campbell]. Every Fourth of July the Cades, always have a big neighborhood and family picnic. It seems this picnic dates back many years. These Cades whose family home was very near the Big Black river crossing at Rock Port, sometime in the first quarter of this century had a method to provide the many fish required. Harvey assured me that it was perfectly legal at the time. You might not know it, but Big Black River catfish, especially one particular fish known as a yellow catfish is considered a real delicacy around here. I have seen them caught that weighed at least eighty pounds. So, it didn't take many of those dudes to feed a crowd! Harvey said what they would do was to put a weak load of dinimite [sp] into the water, just enough to stun the fish. It was no trouble at all to then pick out just what you wanted and in just a bit the rest of the fish would come to and swim off. This has nothing to do with anything, but it gives a flavor of the place and time. Ruth Ray." -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ACPeeples@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:26 AM To: msattala@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins; West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames. First, I would like to thank Douglas Cummins for all of his information and the reminder and caution about genealogy "Research Reliable Sources" on internet. Sometimes I get so excited about a long lost "find" that I may forget to check out the sources. By the way, are you connected to the CUMMINS from Possumneck. My brother-in-law's CUMMINS family is from there. In fact, my youngest nephew's middle name is CUMMINS for his ancestors. And I am from West, MS ( Holmes County) just across the Big Black River from Possumneck. By the way, (Possumneck and Hesterville (close to Hwy 35) were hit hard by the tornados about 3 weeks ago. A number of houses were destroyed, but no serious injuries that I have heard about. And I do not know about the areas between Possumneck and Hesterville. My dad was one of rural mail carriers from West to parts of Attala County, Hesterville, Carmack and across Hwy 35. His route was about 95 miles long and in the "olden days" ( my young years) he could only use a jeep because of the poor roads and MUD! Later years, roads improved greatly and some even blacktopped. His senior co-mail carrier C Cade started out in "horse and buggy"days. He died at the age of 103 just a few years ago! Boy, could both of them tell some stories. Mr. Clyde and Daddy both carried the mail when the mail carrier was the only person that some folks would see for sometimes weeks! Daddy even did some minor grocery shopping and delivered to some of the older folks and delivered messages to others down the road. NONE of this was done through the Post Office. Just personal attention, care and NO CHARGE "on the side" for the elderly patrons or any one else. The patrons were always wonderful to Daddy to stop and pull out of ditches, help with flat tires, sometimes 2-3 on a day! Every Christmas morning always included a trip to the PO to see if any packages arrived overnight. Daddy knew who was looking for late packages for their children's Christmas and we (Daddy and I) delivered on Christmas morning- even if they happened to live on the far side of the mail route. He could not stand the thought of a child missing a package on Christmas as some may have only received only one package! In the spring, I always loved to go with him on the regular route when he delivered baby chicks. They were noisy! He always had "penny" candy for the children when he saw them on the route. And they remembered it long into adulthood. On Daddy's 85th birthday, we were in a restaurant in Ackerman when several adults ( raised on Daddy's mail route) came over with a sack of "penny" candy to give and thank him for always remembering them as children on the route. Quite an emotional thrill for my dad knowing that they saw him, remembered him and went to buy for him "penny" candy for his gift. He spoke of that memory with "tears of joy in his eyes" when he was in Hospice care just before he died at age of 90. So if any of you who may remember Route 3, later Route 2 rural mail carrier Harvey L Campbell and who brought him "penny candy," just know that you made an older gentleman very happy! What sweet memories. Thank you for permitting me to write. Daddy retired in 1971 and died 2006. He was a wonderful Christian husband, father, family, community and mail man. ACPeeples Attala Surnames: BRISTER, HOCKADAY Other side of family: ELLINGTON, BROUGH, McLELLAN (moved to Holmes County, to the Bowling Green community where ELLINGTONs & BROUGHs buried.) McLELLANs buried in Brister Cemetery between West and Durant. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/13/2010 03:42:15
    1. [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins; West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames.
    2. First, I would like to thank Douglas Cummins for all of his information and the reminder and caution about genealogy "Research Reliable Sources" on internet. Sometimes I get so excited about a long lost "find" that I may forget to check out the sources. By the way, are you connected to the CUMMINS from Possumneck. My brother-in-law's CUMMINS family is from there. In fact, my youngest nephew's middle name is CUMMINS for his ancestors. And I am from West, MS ( Holmes County) just across the Big Black River from Possumneck. By the way, (Possumneck and Hesterville (close to Hwy 35) were hit hard by the tornados about 3 weeks ago. A number of houses were destroyed, but no serious injuries that I have heard about. And I do not know about the areas between Possumneck and Hesterville. My dad was one of rural mail carriers from West to parts of Attala County, Hesterville, Carmack and across Hwy 35. His route was about 95 miles long and in the "olden days" ( my young years) he could only use a jeep because of the poor roads and MUD! Later years, roads improved greatly and some even blacktopped. His senior co-mail carrier C Cade started out in "horse and buggy"days. He died at the age of 103 just a few years ago! Boy, could both of them tell some stories. Mr. Clyde and Daddy both carried the mail when the mail carrier was the only person that some folks would see for sometimes weeks! Daddy even did some minor grocery shopping and delivered to some of the older folks and delivered messages to others down the road. NONE of this was done through the Post Office. Just personal attention, care and NO CHARGE "on the side" for the elderly patrons or any one else. The patrons were always wonderful to Daddy to stop and pull out of ditches, help with flat tires, sometimes 2-3 on a day! Every Christmas morning always included a trip to the PO to see if any packages arrived overnight. Daddy knew who was looking for late packages for their children's Christmas and we (Daddy and I) delivered on Christmas morning- even if they happened to live on the far side of the mail route. He could not stand the thought of a child missing a package on Christmas as some may have only received only one package! In the spring, I always loved to go with him on the regular route when he delivered baby chicks. They were noisy! He always had "penny" candy for the children when he saw them on the route. And they remembered it long into adulthood. On Daddy's 85th birthday, we were in a restaurant in Ackerman when several adults ( raised on Daddy's mail route) came over with a sack of "penny" candy to give and thank him for always remembering them as children on the route. Quite an emotional thrill for my dad knowing that they saw him, remembered him and went to buy for him "penny" candy for his gift. He spoke of that memory with "tears of joy in his eyes" when he was in Hospice care just before he died at age of 90. So if any of you who may remember Route 3, later Route 2 rural mail carrier Harvey L Campbell and who brought him "penny candy," just know that you made an older gentleman very happy! What sweet memories. Thank you for permitting me to write. Daddy retired in 1971 and died 2006. He was a wonderful Christian husband, father, family, community and mail man. ACPeeples Attala Surnames: BRISTER, HOCKADAY Other side of family: ELLINGTON, BROUGH, McLELLAN (moved to Holmes County, to the Bowling Green community where ELLINGTONs & BROUGHs buried.) McLELLANs buried in Brister Cemetery between West and Durant.

    05/13/2010 03:25:37
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins; West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames.
    2. Wanda Carlton
    3. What a sweet story and challenge to try to make life better for others. It brought tears to my eyes - tears of joy Wanda C -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of ACPeeples@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:26 AM To: msattala@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins;West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames. First, I would like to thank Douglas Cummins for all of his information and the reminder and caution about genealogy "Research Reliable Sources" on internet. Sometimes I get so excited about a long lost "find" that I may forget to check out the sources. By the way, are you connected to the CUMMINS from Possumneck. My brother-in-law's CUMMINS family is from there. In fact, my youngest nephew's middle name is CUMMINS for his ancestors. And I am from West, MS ( Holmes County) just across the Big Black River from Possumneck. By the way, (Possumneck and Hesterville (close to Hwy 35) were hit hard by the tornados about 3 weeks ago. A number of houses were destroyed, but no serious injuries that I have heard about. And I do not know about the areas between Possumneck and Hesterville. My dad was one of rural mail carriers from West to parts of Attala County, Hesterville, Carmack and across Hwy 35. His route was about 95 miles long and in the "olden days" ( my young years) he could only use a jeep because of the poor roads and MUD! Later years, roads improved greatly and some even blacktopped. His senior co-mail carrier C Cade started out in "horse and buggy"days. He died at the age of 103 just a few years ago! Boy, could both of them tell some stories. Mr. Clyde and Daddy both carried the mail when the mail carrier was the only person that some folks would see for sometimes weeks! Daddy even did some minor grocery shopping and delivered to some of the older folks and delivered messages to others down the road. NONE of this was done through the Post Office. Just personal attention, care and NO CHARGE "on the side" for the elderly patrons or any one else. The patrons were always wonderful to Daddy to stop and pull out of ditches, help with flat tires, sometimes 2-3 on a day! Every Christmas morning always included a trip to the PO to see if any packages arrived overnight. Daddy knew who was looking for late packages for their children's Christmas and we (Daddy and I) delivered on Christmas morning- even if they happened to live on the far side of the mail route. He could not stand the thought of a child missing a package on Christmas as some may have only received only one package! In the spring, I always loved to go with him on the regular route when he delivered baby chicks. They were noisy! He always had "penny" candy for the children when he saw them on the route. And they remembered it long into adulthood. On Daddy's 85th birthday, we were in a restaurant in Ackerman when several adults ( raised on Daddy's mail route) came over with a sack of "penny" candy to give and thank him for always remembering them as children on the route. Quite an emotional thrill for my dad knowing that they saw him, remembered him and went to buy for him "penny" candy for his gift. He spoke of that memory with "tears of joy in his eyes" when he was in Hospice care just before he died at age of 90. So if any of you who may remember Route 3, later Route 2 rural mail carrier Harvey L Campbell and who brought him "penny candy," just know that you made an older gentleman very happy! What sweet memories. Thank you for permitting me to write. Daddy retired in 1971 and died 2006. He was a wonderful Christian husband, father, family, community and mail man. ACPeeples Attala Surnames: BRISTER, HOCKADAY Other side of family: ELLINGTON, BROUGH, McLELLAN (moved to Holmes County, to the Bowling Green community where ELLINGTONs & BROUGHs buried.) McLELLANs buried in Brister Cemetery between West and Durant. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/12/10 18:26:00

    05/13/2010 02:48:02
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins; West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames.
    2. Burchfield, Mical D
    3. AC, Enjoyed your memories of your dad, especially the penny candy story. Thanks for sharing. ...Mical -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ACPeeples@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:26 AM To: msattala@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] Thank you Doug Cummins; West, Possumneck, Attala rural mail route, surnames. First, I would like to thank Douglas Cummins for all of his information and the reminder and caution about genealogy "Research Reliable Sources" on internet. Sometimes I get so excited about a long lost "find" that I may forget to check out the sources. By the way, are you connected to the CUMMINS from Possumneck. My brother-in-law's CUMMINS family is from there. In fact, my youngest nephew's middle name is CUMMINS for his ancestors. And I am from West, MS ( Holmes County) just across the Big Black River from Possumneck. By the way, (Possumneck and Hesterville (close to Hwy 35) were hit hard by the tornados about 3 weeks ago. A number of houses were destroyed, but no serious injuries that I have heard about. And I do not know about the areas between Possumneck and Hesterville. My dad was one of rural mail carriers from West to parts of Attala County, Hesterville, Carmack and across Hwy 35. His route was about 95 miles long and in the "olden days" ( my young years) he could only use a jeep because of the poor roads and MUD! Later years, roads improved greatly and some even blacktopped. His senior co-mail carrier C Cade started out in "horse and buggy"days. He died at the age of 103 just a few years ago! Boy, could both of them tell some stories. Mr. Clyde and Daddy both carried the mail when the mail carrier was the only person that some folks would see for sometimes weeks! Daddy even did some minor grocery shopping and delivered to some of the older folks and delivered messages to others down the road. NONE of this was done through the Post Office. Just personal attention, care and NO CHARGE "on the side" for the elderly patrons or any one else. The patrons were always wonderful to Daddy to stop and pull out of ditches, help with flat tires, sometimes 2-3 on a day! Every Christmas morning always included a trip to the PO to see if any packages arrived overnight. Daddy knew who was looking for late packages for their children's Christmas and we (Daddy and I) delivered on Christmas morning- even if they happened to live on the far side of the mail route. He could not stand the thought of a child missing a package on Christmas as some may have only received only one package! In the spring, I always loved to go with him on the regular route when he delivered baby chicks. They were noisy! He always had "penny" candy for the children when he saw them on the route. And they remembered it long into adulthood. On Daddy's 85th birthday, we were in a restaurant in Ackerman when several adults ( raised on Daddy's mail route) came over with a sack of "penny" candy to give and thank him for always remembering them as children on the route. Quite an emotional thrill for my dad knowing that they saw him, remembered him and went to buy for him "penny" candy for his gift. He spoke of that memory with "tears of joy in his eyes" when he was in Hospice care just before he died at age of 90. So if any of you who may remember Route 3, later Route 2 rural mail carrier Harvey L Campbell and who brought him "penny candy," just know that you made an older gentleman very happy! What sweet memories. Thank you for permitting me to write. Daddy retired in 1971 and died 2006. He was a wonderful Christian husband, father, family, community and mail man. ACPeeples Attala Surnames: BRISTER, HOCKADAY Other side of family: ELLINGTON, BROUGH, McLELLAN (moved to Holmes County, to the Bowling Green community where ELLINGTONs & BROUGHs buried.) McLELLANs buried in Brister Cemetery between West and Durant. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/13/2010 01:30:14
    1. [MSATTALA] New Family Search
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. New Genealogy Search........... You can check out the beta version at http://fsbeta.familysearch.org, but you must have a new FamilySearch id to work on the site. Registration is free and easy, although the password requirements are somewhat stringent. Doug

    05/12/2010 06:22:18
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Untapped Resource: Apprenticeship Records
    2. Katherine Jean Stevens
    3. Ancestry has just released these, too, at a discount to their members. Katherine Stevens ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Cummins" <dcumyns@gmail.com> To: <MSATTALA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:13 AM Subject: [MSATTALA] Untapped Resource: Apprenticeship Records > One of my elders was from TN before settling in Attala County. This is > interesting and could be productive, but $$$$ are required. > > Untapped Resource: Apprenticeship Records > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > As Alan N. Miller reminds us in the Introduction to his book East > Tennessee's Forgotten Children: Apprentices from 1778 to 1911, the > practice of apprenticeship "spread to the colonies along with other > English customs but gradually became less of a method of training in > the professions and crafts, developing instead into a system whereby > children who were or were likely to become indigent could be supported > without cost to the local government." In Tennessee, in fact, the term > "orphan" was broadened to include not only fatherless children but > also "any child as bindable whose father had abandoned him or utterly > failed and refused to support him . . . ." > > Since apprentices were separated from their families at an early age, > if your ancestor was apprenticed, his/her record could serve as the > "missing link" to generations of elusive ancestors. It is sometimes > possible to find a county's original records of indenture; however, as > in Mr. Miller's case, even when those records have disappeared, you > can reconstruct them by combing through the original court minutes of > the pertinent counties. > > Apprenticeship records ordinarily provide the date of the record, name > of the apprentice, his/her age, and the master's name; however, on > occasion, they also furnish a parent's name, the trade, date of birth, > and other useful details. Following are a list of books and CDs, > including the Miller/Tennessee series, that are based, in whole or in > part, on this underestimated source. If you have lost the trail of an > ancestor but have not considered apprenticeship records as a source, > you may wish to make them the next item on your research agenda. > > TENNESSEE'S FORGOTTEN CHILDREN (Three Volumes) > Mr. Miller's East Tennessee volume was the first in his three-volume > series covering all the apprenticeship records for the Volunteer State > and contains about 11,000 entries. Spanning the period 1778 to 1911, > it references apprenticeships created in the following Tennessee > counties: Anderson, Bledsoe, Blount, Bradley, Campbell, Carter, > Claiborne, Grainger, Greene, Hamblen, Hawkins, Jefferson, Johnson, > Knox, Loudon, Marion, McMinn, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Polk, Rhea, > Roane, Scott, Sequatchie, Sevier, Sullivan, Union, and Washington. The > Middle Tennessee volume extends to some 7,000 apprenticeship records > between 1774 and 1902, found in the following thirty-five Tennessee > counties: Bedford, Cannon, Cheatham, Clay, Coffee, Davidson, DeKalb, > Dickson, Franklin, Giles, Grundy, Hickman, Houston, Humphreys, > Jackson, Lawrence, Lewis, Lincoln, Marshall, Maury, Montgomery, Moore, > Overton, Perry, Robertson, Rutherford, Smith, Stewart, Sumner, Van > Buren, Warren, Wayne, White, Williamson, and Wilson. Finally, West > Tennessee's Forgotten Children: Apprentices, 1821-1889 contains over > 4,000 apprenticeship records scattered among the minutes of the county > courts of Benton, Carroll, Crockett, Decatur, Dyer, Fayette, Gibson, > Hardeman, Hardin, Haywood, Henry, Lake, Lauderdale, Madison, McNairy, > Obion, Shelby, Tipton, and Weakley counties. > > For each record Dr. Miller gives the name of the apprentice, a date > (either the date of the original bond or indenture, or a subsequent > date), the age at apprenticeship, the name of the master, and > miscellaneous information ranging from the name of the mother or a > sibling, race, cause of apprenticeship (e.g., orphan), his/her trade, > etc. > > East Tennessee's Forgotten Children: > http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9259 > > Middle Tennessee's Forgotten Children: > http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9838 > > West Tennessee's Forgotten Children: > http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9982 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/12/2010 05:55:21
    1. [MSATTALA] Czech Republic, Mexico, and U.S. Records Added to FamilySearch
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. The following announcement was written by FamilySearch: Eight new searchable collections were updated or added this week at FamilySearch.org—millions of new free images and records. This week the complete name indexes for the states of Alabama, Colorado, and Illinois were published online at FamilySearch’s Record Search pilot (FamilySearch.org, click Search Records, and then click Record Search pilot) or Beta.FamilySearch.org. The Delaware state birth records, 1875 Minnesota State Census, and Illinois, Cook County birth records were also added. Also released was a digital image collection of church records from Litomerice, Czech Republic—60,000 images! Consumers will see these types of collections more and more online as FamilySearch digitizes microfilms in its Granite Mountain Records Vault. Instead of a microfilm reader in a local family history center, patrons use FamilySearch’s image viewer online to search these high quality digital collections—and they are accessible 24/7. See the chart below for the complete list of all the newly added or improved collections. None of this would be possible without the great contributions of many online FamilySearch volunteers. These individuals donate the time and effort needed to make these collections freely available to FamilySearch patrons. If you would like to help by donating a few minutes here and there online with projects of personal interest, become a FamilySearch community volunteer at FamilySearchIndexing.org. Many hands produce great work. Thank you for your support! Collection Name Indexed Records Digital Images Comments Czech Republic, Litomerice State Regional Archive Church Records 1552-1905, pt. 03 - WP   60573 Browsable images only Mexico Census 1930 Index, Yucatan 378550 1061300 U.S Delaware State Birth Records 1861-1922 - FSI 121234 93600 U.S Illinois, Cook County Birth Registers 1873-1908 1240000 33245 U.S 1875 Minnesota State Census 475000 13600 Must be registered to see images. US Federal Census, 1910, Alabama 1870520 46763 US Federal Census, 1910, Colorado 767680 19192 US Federal Census, 1910, Illinois 5024520 125613 About FamilySearch FamilySearch International is the largest genealogy organization in the world. Millions of people use FamilySearch records, resources, and services to learn more about their family history. To help in this great pursuit, FamilySearch has been actively gathering, preserving, and sharing genealogical records worldwide for over 100 years. FamilySearch is a nonprofit organization sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter—day Saints. Patrons may access FamilySearch services and resources free online at FamilySearch.org or through over 4,600 family history centers in 132 countries, including the main Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. Presented by Dick Eastman

    05/12/2010 03:17:40
    1. [MSATTALA] Untapped Resource: Apprenticeship Records
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. One of my elders was from TN before settling in Attala County. This is interesting and could be productive, but $$$$ are required. Untapped Resource: Apprenticeship Records ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As Alan N. Miller reminds us in the Introduction to his book East Tennessee's Forgotten Children: Apprentices from 1778 to 1911, the practice of apprenticeship "spread to the colonies along with other English customs but gradually became less of a method of training in the professions and crafts, developing instead into a system whereby children who were or were likely to become indigent could be supported without cost to the local government." In Tennessee, in fact, the term "orphan" was broadened to include not only fatherless children but also "any child as bindable whose father had abandoned him or utterly failed and refused to support him . . . ." Since apprentices were separated from their families at an early age, if your ancestor was apprenticed, his/her record could serve as the "missing link" to generations of elusive ancestors. It is sometimes possible to find a county's original records of indenture; however, as in Mr. Miller's case, even when those records have disappeared, you can reconstruct them by combing through the original court minutes of the pertinent counties. Apprenticeship records ordinarily provide the date of the record, name of the apprentice, his/her age, and the master's name; however, on occasion, they also furnish a parent's name, the trade, date of birth, and other useful details. Following are a list of books and CDs, including the Miller/Tennessee series, that are based, in whole or in part, on this underestimated source. If you have lost the trail of an ancestor but have not considered apprenticeship records as a source, you may wish to make them the next item on your research agenda. TENNESSEE'S FORGOTTEN CHILDREN (Three Volumes) Mr. Miller's East Tennessee volume was the first in his three-volume series covering all the apprenticeship records for the Volunteer State and contains about 11,000 entries. Spanning the period 1778 to 1911, it references apprenticeships created in the following Tennessee counties: Anderson, Bledsoe, Blount, Bradley, Campbell, Carter, Claiborne, Grainger, Greene, Hamblen, Hawkins, Jefferson, Johnson, Knox, Loudon, Marion, McMinn, Meigs, Monroe, Morgan, Polk, Rhea, Roane, Scott, Sequatchie, Sevier, Sullivan, Union, and Washington. The Middle Tennessee volume extends to some 7,000 apprenticeship records between 1774 and 1902, found in the following thirty-five Tennessee counties: Bedford, Cannon, Cheatham, Clay, Coffee, Davidson, DeKalb, Dickson, Franklin, Giles, Grundy, Hickman, Houston, Humphreys, Jackson, Lawrence, Lewis, Lincoln, Marshall, Maury, Montgomery, Moore, Overton, Perry, Robertson, Rutherford, Smith, Stewart, Sumner, Van Buren, Warren, Wayne, White, Williamson, and Wilson. Finally, West Tennessee's Forgotten Children: Apprentices, 1821-1889 contains over 4,000 apprenticeship records scattered among the minutes of the county courts of Benton, Carroll, Crockett, Decatur, Dyer, Fayette, Gibson, Hardeman, Hardin, Haywood, Henry, Lake, Lauderdale, Madison, McNairy, Obion, Shelby, Tipton, and Weakley counties. For each record Dr. Miller gives the name of the apprentice, a date (either the date of the original bond or indenture, or a subsequent date), the age at apprenticeship, the name of the master, and miscellaneous information ranging from the name of the mother or a sibling, race, cause of apprenticeship (e.g., orphan), his/her trade, etc. East Tennessee's Forgotten Children: http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9259 Middle Tennessee's Forgotten Children: http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9838 West Tennessee's Forgotten Children: http://www.genealogical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&item_number=9982

    05/11/2010 05:13:20
    1. [MSATTALA] Public Copiers are a Security Risk
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. How many times have you copied your personal docs, pics and other related genealogy material using copiers other than your own? You may want to seriously consider changing those risky habits Copying machines have hard drives as your PC. When you first open the U-tube video it will start with a non-related commercial - just wait and view an amazing revelation about copiers! Before you think "yeah, well, I never use a copier, not even at the office supply/shipping store", think of all those who have your papers that do. Accountants, attorneys, health professionals...the list goes on. Watch it to the end for the scariest bit.  Identity theft, anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC38D5am7go

    05/10/2010 08:00:50
    1. [MSATTALA] Research Reliable Sources
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. Finding Reliable Internet Sources The Internet is a great resource, but it is also a public forum, where anyone can make a claim or an assertion. If you find an article that provides relevant information for your research topic, you should take care to investigate the source to make sure it is valid and reliable. It is your responsibility as a researcher to find and use the trustworthy sources. There are several ways to investigate your source. In most cases, you should stay away from Internet information that doesn't list an author. While the information you find may be true, it is more difficult to validate information if you don't know the credentials of the author. If the author is named, you will want to find his/her web page to: Verify educational credits Discover if the writer is either published in a scholarly journal Verify that the writer is employed by a research institution or university URL If the information is linked to an organization, try to determine the reliability of the sponsoring organization. One tip is the url ending. If the site name ends with .edu, it is most likely an educational institution. Even so, you should be aware of political bias. If a site ends in .gov, it is most likely a reliable government web site. Government sites are usually good sources for statistics and objective reports. Sites that end in .org are usually non-profit organizations. They can be very good sources or very poor sources, so you'll have to take care to research their possible agendas or political biases, if they exist. For instance, collegeboard.org is the organization that provides the SAT and other tests. You can find valuable information, statistics, and advice on that site. PBS.org is a non-profit organization that provides educational public broadcasts. It provides a wealth of quality articles on its site. Other sites with the .org ending are advocacy groups that are highly political in nature. White it is entirely possible to find reliable information from a site like this, as always, you should be mindful of the political slant and acknowledge this in your work. Online Journals and Magazines A reputable journal or magazine should contain a bibliography for every article. The list of sources within that bibliography should be pretty extensive, and it should include scholarly, non-Internet sources. Check for statistics and data within the article to back up the claims made by the author. Does the writer provide evidence to back up his statements? News Sources Every television and print news source has a web site. To some extent, you can rely on the most trusted news sources, but you should not rely on them exclusively. After all, network and cable news stations are involved in entertainment. Think of them as a stepping stone to more reliable sources. Source of information: By Grace Fleming

    05/07/2010 03:37:46
    1. [MSATTALA] Maiden Names
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. 10 places to find maiden names: (This is not a .org site) http://genealogy.about.com/od/surnames/tp/maiden_names.htm

    05/07/2010 01:27:31
    1. [MSATTALA] Popularity of Your Surname
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. Find the Popularity of Your Surname on PublicProfiler.org Just how popular is your surname? Is it popular in other countries? This web site will tell you. It won't find your ancestors but, with less-popular surnames, it may give clues as to the emigration patterns of extended family members. Don't try this on Smith or Jones, but with less-common surnames, it may provide clues. PublicProfiler.org displays a map of the world and then invites you to enter your surname or any other surname of interest. It then displays the popularity of that name around the world. I was surprised to find that my own surname is more popular in Canada (measured as a percentage of the entire population) than it is in the United States. I know it is a popular name in Canada, but never realized just how popular it is until PublicProfiler.org provided the numbers. It is also a very popular name in the State of Maine (which I expected) and is also found in England, Australia, New Zealand, and even a handful of people with the same surname are found in Spain. The web site also reports that the fourth most common forename of all people named Eastman is Richard. Hey! That's my name. Even better, the PublicProfiler.org web site reports that the people of my surname most commonly originated from England (which is correct) and there it is most commonly found in Bristol (which I didn't know). Again, these are not hard facts about your ancestors but the web site can provide clues about probabilities. PublicProfiler.org also provides: An Area Search that displays the most common surnames and forenames for any geographic arrea in its database An Ethnicity Search that shows the distribution of various ethnic groups around the world PublicProfiler.org contains data for 26 countries in Europe, America, Asia and Oceania. However, it does not contain information for all countries. You can find PublicProfiler.org at http://www.publicprofiler.org/worldnames My thanks to Frank Henderson for telling me about this site. My thanks to Dick Eastman for this info dcumyns

    05/06/2010 03:34:54
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Popularity of Your Surname
    2. Burchfield, Mical D
    3. Don't forget to try other possible spellings of your name like you do when researching ancestors. It sure does change the maps quite a bit. ...Mical -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Cummins Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:35 AM To: MSATTALA@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] Popularity of Your Surname Find the Popularity of Your Surname on PublicProfiler.org Just how popular is your surname? Is it popular in other countries? This web site will tell you. It won't find your ancestors but, with less-popular surnames, it may give clues as to the emigration patterns of extended family members. Don't try this on Smith or Jones, but with less-common surnames, it may provide clues. PublicProfiler.org displays a map of the world and then invites you to enter your surname or any other surname of interest. It then displays the popularity of that name around the world. I was surprised to find that my own surname is more popular in Canada (measured as a percentage of the entire population) than it is in the United States. I know it is a popular name in Canada, but never realized just how popular it is until PublicProfiler.org provided the numbers. It is also a very popular name in the State of Maine (which I expected) and is also found in England, Australia, New Zealand, and even a handful of people with the same surname are found in Spain. The web site also reports that the fourth most common forename of all people named Eastman is Richard. Hey! That's my name. Even better, the PublicProfiler.org web site reports that the people of my surname most commonly originated from England (which is correct) and there it is most commonly found in Bristol (which I didn't know). Again, these are not hard facts about your ancestors but the web site can provide clues about probabilities. PublicProfiler.org also provides: An Area Search that displays the most common surnames and forenames for any geographic arrea in its database An Ethnicity Search that shows the distribution of various ethnic groups around the world PublicProfiler.org contains data for 26 countries in Europe, America, Asia and Oceania. However, it does not contain information for all countries. You can find PublicProfiler.org at http://www.publicprofiler.org/worldnames My thanks to Frank Henderson for telling me about this site. My thanks to Dick Eastman for this info dcumyns ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/06/2010 02:44:15
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Traditional American Marriage Laws
    2. Wanda Carlton
    3. Does this scripture speak of healing from disease or healing from sin ? Wanda -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Douglas Cummins Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:42 AM To: MSATTALA@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] Traditional American Marriage Laws As most families the following didn't apply all the time.......Attala County families too. Who Can I Marry? If we all came from Adam and Eve and their children married each other, then can we marry our cousins? When life on earth began at creation, Adam and Eve were told to "be fruitful and multiply". The human race started out with only one man and one woman, so their sons and daughters married in order for life to continue on. So why all the fuss today about people marrying first cousins? Is it ok with God? Perhaps one of the best ways to look at this question is to consider the purpose for the Tree of Life. Adam and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden so that they would not have access to the Tree of Life and thus become immortal sinners (Genesis 3:22). The book of Revelation tells us that we will one day be restored to the Tree of Life and its special properties will give us eternal life. We are also told that the leaves of that tree are for the "healing of the nations." (Revelation 22:2) Well, after Adam and Eve were placed outside the Garden, they had no access to the life giving properties of the Tree of Life, but some of it's effects lingered with the early people of planet earth. The restorative virtue of the Tree was so great that we read of no disease whatsoever from the creation of Adam and Eve to the flood and the average life expectancy was around 900 years of age! In fact, so great was the healing power of that tree upon Adam and Eve that in the genealogies of their decedents, only one son died before his father (in terms of old age) and this was recorded in Genesis because it was such an unheard of event for that time. Today, we have degenerated to the degree that we warn people about the heredity from your parents. For a woman, Breast Cancer is more likely if your grandmother and/or mother had it. Baldness, hemophiliacs, diabetes, etc. are all passed on in the genes to the next generation, whether expressed or not. When people breed within their own gene pools, certain flaws and deficiencies tend to emerge. First cousins are more likely to have a baby with a serious birth defect, mental retardation, or genetic disease. In fact, the risk is doubled when compared to a standard marriage between two unrelated partners. Because of disease and the potential for handicaps, the state and federal governments have passed laws limiting who can marry whom. The potential to limit the usefulness and happiness of our offspring is why most states do not allow close relatives to marry. History tells us clearly what happened to the monarchy in Japan due to close inbreeding. We just need to use some common sense for this issue. Is it a sin to marry a cousin? The Bible does not specifically forbid it (see chart below), but it's important to remember that many laws do condemn this type of marriage and Christians are commanded to "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men" (1 Peter 2:13-15, See also Romans 13:1-2). What specific types of marriage does God forbid? Forbidden Marriages - Scripture Reference: • Between parents and children - Leviticus 18:7-8 • Between stepparents and stepchildren - Leviticus 18:8, 17 • With your paternal or maternal aunt - Leviticus 18:12-13 • With your uncle or aunt - Leviticus 18:14 • Between brother and sister and half-brother and half-sister - Leviticus 18:9 • Between stepbrothers and stepsisters - Leviticus 18:11 • With your daughter-in-law - Leviticus 18:15 • With your sister-in-law - Leviticus 18:16 • With your granddaughter - Leviticus 18:10 • With your step-granddaughter - Leviticus 18:17 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2831 - Release Date: 04/23/10 18:31:00

    05/05/2010 05:58:59
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] The Cursed of Inbreeding
    2. Fern
    3. God's will be done - His own Mum should have remained a Virgin.... From: Douglas Cummins Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:43 AM To: MSATTALA@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] The Cursed of Inbreeding Darwin Dynasty Cursed By Inbreeding Charles Darwin’s family suffered from the deleterious effects of inbreeding, suggests a new study that serves as ironic punctuation to the evolutionary theorist's life work. Pioneer of the theory that genetic traits affect survival of both individual organisms and species, Darwin wondered in his own lifetime if his marriage to first cousin Emma Wedgwood was having “the evil effects of close interbreeding” that he had observed in plants and animals. Three of their children died before age 10, two from infectious diseases. The survivors were often ill, and out of the six long-term marriages that resulted, only half produced any children. According to researchers at Ohio State University and Spain's Universidad de Santiago de Compestela, that alone is a "suspicious" sign that the Darwins suffered from reproductive problems. You can read more in an article by Zoё Macintosh in the LiveScience web site at http://www.livescience.com/history/charles-darwin-inbreeding-100503.html Thanks to David E. Cummins for this info ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2853 - Release Date: 05/04/10 06:27:00

    05/05/2010 05:26:24
    1. [MSATTALA] Train Your Voice Recognition Software to do Your Genealogy
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. This is too high (genealogy tech) for me, I'm still trying to master dialing the telephone. Train Your Voice Recognition Software to do Your Genealogy Do you realize you need to train your voice recognition software to do your genealogy? A well-trained program can recognize the voice inflections, the pattern of speech and produce more accurate text from the spoken word. An article in the Mormon Times quotes Launa Darby and her recent presentation at the 2010 annual conference of the National Genealogical Society. Darby offered a presentation on "Can You Hear Me Now? Voice Recognition Software for Genealogists," said she relies on voice recognition software for transcriptions, letters and journal entries, passages from books, notes on interviews and reports. She says that voice recognition software can save a genealogist 40 percent to 50 percent of his or her time. You can read more in an article written by Sharon Haddock at http://www.mormontimes.com/mormon_living/family_history/?id=14702 Posted by Dick Eastman

    05/05/2010 03:22:16
    1. [MSATTALA] Genealogy Tool(s)
    2. Douglas Cummins
    3. Robert Regan put this together, some may find parts of it useful.......... http://amberskyline.com/treasuremaps/genealogy-videos.html

    05/05/2010 03:17:28
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Thank You!
    2. Jeannie Gregory-Fairchild
    3. Doug thank you, I have passed your posting on to a lot of my friends in KY and TN where I also do research on my mothers side of the family It is help me a lot also. Thanks again God Bless Jeannie -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Cummins Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:03 PM To: MSATTALA@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSATTALA] Thank You! Dennis, I have to thank my inter-net contacts for most of the info that has been posted on Attala's site recently. None are from MS that I know of..........I will passed your compliments along to them. I'm sure they will say, "Don't mentioned it." Thank you too, Doug ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/04/2010 05:34:41