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    1. Indian Records at Chancery Court
    2. deeno
    3. Everett, Referencing the Indian records at Chancery Court, could you explain what type records? My family was in Attala (1840-1885) and supposedly of Native American heritage. The marriage records were all lost in the 1896 fire, all that is left(that I could find) on them is land records at the chancery court. I was not aware of any Indian records during my visits or I would have certainly checked those. Thank you, Rayedene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Everette Carr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost > Hi All: > > The subject of the condition of some of the Attala County records kept in > the Courthouse has stirred considerable interest among the Attala County > researchers and rightfully so. Because this is such an important issue, I > have created a special web page where some information about the location of > the Attala County records is shown and after that brief description, Edward > Hutchinson's message is reproduced and all of the messages on this subject > that followed are also shown in chronological order. > > Since it is still early in the day and many researchers have not yet checked > in, it is presumed that there will be many more responses to Mr. > Hutchinson's original message. All of the additional messages that are > received will also be posted as soon as convenient to this special page on > the Attala web site. > > To view the messages received thus far (about 1:40 p.m. CDT) go to the main > page and click on the link immediately below the photograph of the Attala > County Courthouse. (link below) > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala/index.html > > Although the records maintained by the courthouse are not the most critical > to most genealogy researchers, they are none-the-less important to the > history of the county and must be preserved at all cost. > > Everette Carr > List Administrator > > > > ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== > Before forwarding any Virus Warnings or Chain Letters to anyone, check them out at: http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/ Also, please Visit the Attala County Rootsweb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala/ > >

    05/05/2004 08:06:21
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Looking for Pullin's and....
    2. My FIL is Harold Bailey Pullen Harold's father was Malcolm Henry Pullin (or Pullen - somewhere in this generation they changed the spelling). Malcolm was one of 7 children - Herman Isaiah, John Homer, Stella Leona, Eveline, Oklar Lester, and Arizona were the others.) Harold's mother was Myrtle Dezree Bailey. Dezree (as she went by) was one of 11 children (I think). Another relative in the Bailey line has done extensive research on the Bailey side. I haven't looked at the Bailey info for a while, so I don't know all of their names off the top of my head. Thanks for your help! Are you a Pullin or Bailey relative? Patti

    05/05/2004 07:41:29
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Problem
    2. odmcelroy
    3. To all that are concerned about the condition of Attla County records, I must say that the majority of the county records are maintained in very good conditions. Although small, the Circuit Clerks office is will arranged and it is very clean and well kept. All of the marriage records that survived the Court House fires are there and can be accessed on line at the Attala County web page. I haven't looked into the land records in the Chancery Clerks office but they are in the new court house. I can under stand the volume and conditions that the Police Records must be in but I haven't looked into that. I plan to go to the Library this afternoon and talk to Ann about them. We have the best Library in central Mississippi here in Kosciusko, with the most information in the Genealogy Section that you find anywhere. Lots of the old News Papers that are in the basement is on micro-film in the Genealogy Section. For any of you that haven't been here yet, don't plan a fast stop-by to see it all, but plan on about a week here to get a feel for all that we have available in just the Genealogical Section of the Library... O.D. McElroy G/G/G/Grandson of John Curtis one of North Attala County's early settlers in the 1840's... ======================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Oldham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Problem > I wonder if we couldn't establish a fund among ourselves to at least undertake the first round of sorting of materials and developing a plan and budget for converting these things into an archive. If there were somebody now in Attala who could undertake the work, for a stipend, that would help at leat to know more than we do now. Then we'd be in a much better position to seek money from relevant county/state funds or maybe even, as one subscriber suggested, external grants, to fix this problem. I personally would be glad to contribute to this. > Linda Oldham

    05/05/2004 06:34:24
    1. RE: [MSATTALA] Looking for Pullin's and....
    2. Molly Pere
    3. Hi Patti I looked in my database and have a Nancy PULLEN ( b 1772 , married 1792 ) who married Augustine CARTER and an Elizabeth PULLEN who married John CARTER in 1787. Does that help ? Nancy PULLEN was from Bedford Co VA then in Monroe Co MS . Molly -----Original Message----- From: odmcelroy [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Looking for Pullin's and.... << File: ATT00011.txt; charset = iso-8859-1 >>

    05/05/2004 05:56:28
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Looking for Pullin's and....
    2. odmcelroy
    3. Hi Patti, How about your FIL's and his fathers name for a starter for me. I do have a fairly good data base for the Pullen and Baily family's. O.D. McElroy =========================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: [MSATTALA] Looking for Pullin's and.... > Hello All. > I just subscribed and I'd like to introduce myself: My name is Patti Pullen and I am researching my father-in-law's family in Attala County. The surnames I am researching (to get started) include: > > * Pullin (or Pullen or Pulling) [this is my primary right now] > * Patterson > * Bailey, and > * Long > > My FIL was born/raised in Attala County (areas that he's referred to are Kosciusko and French Camp). And he graduated from Central HS in Jackson in 1954. > > I've been able to track back through census records - on the Pullin side of the tree - to Henry O. Pulling. He was not listed on the 1840, 1850, or 1870 census - however his wife (?) Emily is on the 1850 and 1870 census. (Both are on the 1860 census.) > > I've never been to Attala County (I live in Northern Virginia). > > I'd appreciate any tips that you all can provide! > > Thanks, > > Patti Pullen

    05/05/2004 05:35:09
    1. Looking for Pullin's and....
    2. Hello All. I just subscribed and I'd like to introduce myself: My name is Patti Pullen and I am researching my father-in-law's family in Attala County. The surnames I am researching (to get started) include: * Pullin (or Pullen or Pulling) [this is my primary right now] * Patterson * Bailey, and * Long My FIL was born/raised in Attala County (areas that he's referred to are Kosciusko and French Camp). And he graduated from Central HS in Jackson in 1954. I've been able to track back through census records - on the Pullin side of the tree - to Henry O. Pulling. He was not listed on the 1840, 1850, or 1870 census - however his wife (?) Emily is on the 1850 and 1870 census. (Both are on the 1860 census.) I've never been to Attala County (I live in Northern Virginia). I'd appreciate any tips that you all can provide! Thanks, Patti Pullen

    05/05/2004 03:32:06
    1. Attala Records Problem
    2. Linda Oldham
    3. I wonder if we couldn't establish a fund among ourselves to at least undertake the first round of sorting of materials and developing a plan and budget for converting these things into an archive. If there were somebody now in Attala who could undertake the work, for a stipend, that would help at leat to know more than we do now. Then we'd be in a much better position to seek money from relevant county/state funds or maybe even, as one subscriber suggested, external grants, to fix this problem. I personally would be glad to contribute to this. Linda Oldham

    05/05/2004 03:27:41
    1. Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Molly Pere
    3. I have done a bit of research at the Huntsville AL Library in the past. I was there about 3 years ago and found a similar situation to the one described by Edward , although they were probably a bit more orderly. I was in the basement , unsupervised , handling original documents and was alarmed to know that I or anyone else could have walked off with them without any notice. Quite a few of the files on my particular ancestors are missing. I can guess what has happened to them............... Anyway , I am happy to report that since then , the records have been moved to the genealogy room of the Huntsville Public Library and a team of volunteers are carefully and lovingly getting them set up in that facility as well as posting many to the local website for all of us to use and enjoy. I live very far away or I would volunteer my time to help Attala County with the same process. I will gladly contribute funds. We must not let these precious records be lost !!! Molly

    05/04/2004 02:02:02
    1. Marvin Chapel Church
    2. JAMES WATKINS
    3. Does anyone know the mailing address for this Methodist Church just north of Kosciusko?

    05/04/2004 01:05:40
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Indian Records at Chancery Court
    2. Everette Carr
    3. Raydene, I cannot speak directly as to what type of Indian records might still exist in the Chancery Court. I have not personally viewed any Indian records. The reference to what the Chancery Court handles vs. what records would be in the courthouse was taken from some publication or another. The only records I have researched on a visit to the Chancery Court was the wills, there wasn't time for land records. I wish I could be of more help to you. Perhaps, Ann Breedlove Fulghan the genealogy clerk at the Attala County Library could give you some indication as to what might be available with respect to Indian records in the Chancery Court. The E-mail address for the library is on the Attala web site. Everette ----- Original Message ----- From: "deeno" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: [MSATTALA] Indian Records at Chancery Court Everett, Referencing the Indian records at Chancery Court, could you explain what type records? My family was in Attala (1840-1885) and supposedly of Native American heritage. The marriage records were all lost in the 1896 fire, all that is left(that I could find) on them is land records at the chancery court. I was not aware of any Indian records during my visits or I would have certainly checked those. Thank you, Rayedene

    05/04/2004 12:54:41
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala County Records Rapidly being lost
    2. Tanimara
    3. I have set and watched these messages unfold with interest. I think we are all appalled at the condition of the sacared records of our ancestors. Especially when so few are available already. The question is, what to do. I feel there is enough support here to make a difference. The goal is to get these records preserved and quickly, damn the cost. A list of ideas: LDS State Archives Library - Grants are available. Local Historical/Genealogy Society Volunteers Money Organization Donations Someone needs to take charge, make assignments, and kick some booty. Let me know what you think, Thanks Everret for setting up the website and mailing list. Good start Jackie Wood Willow Springs MO Surnames: Thomas, Harrington, Mangrum, Guynes/Goines/Goin/Going/Goynes, Hall, Sprouse, Locations: VA/NC/SC/AL/GA/MS/LA/AR/MO/KS/TN/TX deeno wrote: >Everett, > >Referencing the Indian records at Chancery Court, could you explain what >type records? My family was in Attala (1840-1885) and supposedly of Native >American heritage. The marriage records were all lost in the 1896 fire, all >that is left(that I could find) on them is land records at the chancery >court. I was not aware of any Indian records during my visits or I would >have certainly checked those. > > >Thank you, >Rayedene >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Everette Carr" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 1:44 PM >Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost > > > > >>Hi All: >> >>The subject of the condition of some of the Attala County records kept in >>the Courthouse has stirred considerable interest among the Attala County >>researchers and rightfully so. Because this is such an important issue, I >>have created a special web page where some information about the location >> >> >of > > >>the Attala County records is shown and after that brief description, >> >> >Edward > > >>Hutchinson's message is reproduced and all of the messages on this subject >>that followed are also shown in chronological order. >> >>Since it is still early in the day and many researchers have not yet >> >> >checked > > >>in, it is presumed that there will be many more responses to Mr. >>Hutchinson's original message. All of the additional messages that are >>received will also be posted as soon as convenient to this special page on >>the Attala web site. >> >>To view the messages received thus far (about 1:40 p.m. CDT) go to the >> >> >main > > >>page and click on the link immediately below the photograph of the Attala >>County Courthouse. (link below) >> >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala/index.html >> >>Although the records maintained by the courthouse are not the most >> >> >critical > > >>to most genealogy researchers, they are none-the-less important to the >>history of the county and must be preserved at all cost. >> >>Everette Carr >>List Administrator >> >> >> >>==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== >>Before forwarding any Virus Warnings or Chain Letters to anyone, check >> >> >them out at: http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/ Also, please Visit the Attala >County Rootsweb site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala/ > > >> >> > > >==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== >Were you aware that a portion of the Diary of Judge Jason Niles is available online at the Attala County American Local History Network site? Just click on the link http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/ > > > >

    05/04/2004 10:07:11
    1. RE: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Martha Boggs
    3. I know that Attala County and Kosciusko are not as large as Spartanburg, SC, but there is where my first experience with microfilmed public records came. All of the oldest records are on microfilm in the genealogy and local history department of the public library. This is also true of Anderson County, SC, and most likely a lot of other places. Wish we could get it done in Attala. Let me know what I can do to help. Martha -----Original Message----- From: Gigi Tanksley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 12:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost Martha, I believe you are correct. I don't think they remove the actual records. Just take the films and charge for their use. I am trying to contact Ann at the library to see if possibly there is some kind of grant that can be applied for to microfilm them. Also, though not a member wouldn't this be a great project for the local Historical Society to take on. Perhaps place the documents in a better place at the Cultural Center? Again, I am not a member and this is just a thought I had. When I was recently in the basement of the Chancery Clerk Building I was amazed at how many records were missing. I wondered at the time if people just took them. No One watches you down there and it would be easy to just walk off with them. That would be a shame as others will eventually want to access them. Maybe the board of Supervisors could donate them to the local library genealogy room. Just a few thoughts, Gigi ----- Original Message ----- From: Martha Boggs<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost I have heard that if LDS film old records they copyright them and then you have to access them through LDS. This may not be correct. I don't think they leave the microfilm in the county. Please correct me if I am wrong. Martha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 8:43 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost Have the records been filmed by the LDS? If not, contact them to see if they will come and film them. At least, then there will be a permanent record of all of the documents and it will call attention to their neglect. Julia French Wood ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Attala Historical Society web site? The URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/> Now would be a good time to support the Attala Historical Society! ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Were you aware that a portion of the Diary of Judge Jason Niles is available online at the Attala County American Local History Network site? Just click on the link http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/<http://www.usge nnet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/> ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe: send an email to [email protected]@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. For 'Digest Mode' send the unsubscribe message to [email protected]

    05/04/2004 09:36:26
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Everette Carr
    3. Hi All: The subject of the condition of some of the Attala County records kept in the Courthouse has stirred considerable interest among the Attala County researchers and rightfully so. Because this is such an important issue, I have created a special web page where some information about the location of the Attala County records is shown and after that brief description, Edward Hutchinson's message is reproduced and all of the messages on this subject that followed are also shown in chronological order. Since it is still early in the day and many researchers have not yet checked in, it is presumed that there will be many more responses to Mr. Hutchinson's original message. All of the additional messages that are received will also be posted as soon as convenient to this special page on the Attala web site. To view the messages received thus far (about 1:40 p.m. CDT) go to the main page and click on the link immediately below the photograph of the Attala County Courthouse. (link below) http://www.rootsweb.com/~msattala/index.html Although the records maintained by the courthouse are not the most critical to most genealogy researchers, they are none-the-less important to the history of the county and must be preserved at all cost. Everette Carr List Administrator

    05/04/2004 08:44:12
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Tanimara
    3. Does MS have a state archives? Jackie [email protected] wrote: >I went to the Courthouse in Kosciusko today in search of some police court >records dating from about 1900. > >The specific records that I was seeking, if they are yet extant, are to be >found in the attic above the main court chambers. Alas, this area is not only >unlit and gloomy but there is ample evidence to suggest it is also home to many >rats and pigeons. To further discourage researchers the records are >scattered and in no discernible order. > >I have been searching through the records available at the Courthouse and in >the Chancery Clerk's office for many years, so I was not surprised to see the >sad state in which these records repose. Still, I can't help but wonder if >there is not something that can be done to preserve these old records of our >ancestors. > >I wish there was someone to blame. We could then rise up in righteous >indignation and acting collectively we could perhaps bring about a change. >Unfortunately, there is not anyone we can point to as the culprit. The public >officials that I have met have been uniformly helpful and courteous. They seem as >unhappy about this situation as I am. Like me, they are not eager to rummage >through records that are not only crumbling but which, given the bird droppings, >have come to pose a health concern. > >There is always the tendency to ask who is to blame when very often the >better question is what's to blame. Many problems simply result from a flawed >system. I think this is such an instance. > >As we live in an era in which the national government is often the court of >first resort, perhaps it is possible that federal funds could be obtained for a >preservation effort. Given the tenor of the times, it may be that we could >make the case that funds should be allocated to remove the ledgers and records >because of the threat they pose to the poor pigeons. I suspect we could also >prove the indigenous rats are being seriously inconvenienced by the presence >of such thick books. Thus framed, I feel sure the government would not only >encourage our efforts but would probably mandate them. > >Anyone have a better idea? Or should we just resign ourselves to the >inevitable loss of this part of our heritage? > >Edward Hutchison >Madison, MS >Attala County Genealogy > > >==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the Attala Historical Society web site? The URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/ >Now would be a good time to support the Attala Historical Society! > > > >

    05/04/2004 08:30:48
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Gigi Tanksley
    3. Hi All, I spoke with Ann at the local library. She said that she was unaware of any grant program that might cover microfilming the records. She added that there might be one but she was unaware of it. She suggested letters to our local newspaper to the editor showing concern for the state of the records. Also, for the state of some of the cemeteries located in the county that have been allowed to deteriorate. Also, I learned from my conversation with her that the local Genealogy room at the library is funded by donation. I was unaware of this but I feel that those of us who use it should contribute something no matter how small to helping keep it going. She said that her space was very limited but that she would be glad to take any records that would fit in her space. Gigi ----- Original Message ----- From: Martha Boggs<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost A sad state, indeed. I have great affection for Attala County, since my Stuckey, England and Boyett ancestors lived there for many generations. I don't know about funds for such a project, but in other counties where I have done research, these old records have been microfilmed and placed in the local library. Kosciusko has a very good library and it might be possible to find room for microfilm of these records. Finding someone or some entity who would do the work at an affordable price will probably be difficult, but it has been done in other places. I'll do my share in funding such a project. Martha Boggs Abilene, TX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:21 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost I went to the Courthouse in Kosciusko today in search of some police court records dating from about 1900. The specific records that I was seeking, if they are yet extant, are to be found in the attic above the main court chambers. Alas, this area is not only unlit and gloomy but there is ample evidence to suggest it is also home to many rats and pigeons. To further discourage researchers the records are scattered and in no discernible order. I have been searching through the records available at the Courthouse and in the Chancery Clerk's office for many years, so I was not surprised to see the sad state in which these records repose. Still, I can't help but wonder if there is not something that can be done to preserve these old records of our ancestors. I wish there was someone to blame. We could then rise up in righteous indignation and acting collectively we could perhaps bring about a change. Unfortunately, there is not anyone we can point to as the culprit. The public officials that I have met have been uniformly helpful and courteous. They seem as unhappy about this situation as I am. Like me, they are not eager to rummage through records that are not only crumbling but which, given the bird droppings, have come to pose a health concern. There is always the tendency to ask who is to blame when very often the better question is what's to blame. Many problems simply result from a flawed system. I think this is such an instance. As we live in an era in which the national government is often the court of first resort, perhaps it is possible that federal funds could be obtained for a preservation effort. Given the tenor of the times, it may be that we could make the case that funds should be allocated to remove the ledgers and records because of the threat they pose to the poor pigeons. I suspect we could also prove the indigenous rats are being seriously inconvenienced by the presence of such thick books. Thus framed, I feel sure the government would not only encourage our efforts but would probably mandate them. Anyone have a better idea? Or should we just resign ourselves to the inevitable loss of this part of our heritage? Edward Hutchison Madison, MS Attala County Genealogy ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Attala Historical Society web site? The URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/> Now would be a good time to support the Attala Historical Society! ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Were you aware that a portion of the Diary of Judge Jason Niles is available online at the Attala County American Local History Network site? Just click on the link http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/>

    05/04/2004 07:49:39
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. cumyns4211
    3. Many thanks Martha and Mozelle for your input, at times it may seem one is crying in the wilderness and no one hears. Doug

    05/04/2004 07:47:14
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Gigi Tanksley
    3. Hi List, Guess I should have read all your replies before weighing in on this. I will add this. I would be glad to chip in a little money to see these records saved. Gigi ----- Original Message ----- From: Martha Boggs<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost A sad state, indeed. I have great affection for Attala County, since my Stuckey, England and Boyett ancestors lived there for many generations. I don't know about funds for such a project, but in other counties where I have done research, these old records have been microfilmed and placed in the local library. Kosciusko has a very good library and it might be possible to find room for microfilm of these records. Finding someone or some entity who would do the work at an affordable price will probably be difficult, but it has been done in other places. I'll do my share in funding such a project. Martha Boggs Abilene, TX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 11:21 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost I went to the Courthouse in Kosciusko today in search of some police court records dating from about 1900. The specific records that I was seeking, if they are yet extant, are to be found in the attic above the main court chambers. Alas, this area is not only unlit and gloomy but there is ample evidence to suggest it is also home to many rats and pigeons. To further discourage researchers the records are scattered and in no discernible order. I have been searching through the records available at the Courthouse and in the Chancery Clerk's office for many years, so I was not surprised to see the sad state in which these records repose. Still, I can't help but wonder if there is not something that can be done to preserve these old records of our ancestors. I wish there was someone to blame. We could then rise up in righteous indignation and acting collectively we could perhaps bring about a change. Unfortunately, there is not anyone we can point to as the culprit. The public officials that I have met have been uniformly helpful and courteous. They seem as unhappy about this situation as I am. Like me, they are not eager to rummage through records that are not only crumbling but which, given the bird droppings, have come to pose a health concern. There is always the tendency to ask who is to blame when very often the better question is what's to blame. Many problems simply result from a flawed system. I think this is such an instance. As we live in an era in which the national government is often the court of first resort, perhaps it is possible that federal funds could be obtained for a preservation effort. Given the tenor of the times, it may be that we could make the case that funds should be allocated to remove the ledgers and records because of the threat they pose to the poor pigeons. I suspect we could also prove the indigenous rats are being seriously inconvenienced by the presence of such thick books. Thus framed, I feel sure the government would not only encourage our efforts but would probably mandate them. Anyone have a better idea? Or should we just resign ourselves to the inevitable loss of this part of our heritage? Edward Hutchison Madison, MS Attala County Genealogy ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Attala Historical Society web site? The URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/> Now would be a good time to support the Attala Historical Society! ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Were you aware that a portion of the Diary of Judge Jason Niles is available online at the Attala County American Local History Network site? Just click on the link http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/>

    05/04/2004 07:04:41
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Gigi Tanksley
    3. Martha, I believe you are correct. I don't think they remove the actual records. Just take the films and charge for their use. I am trying to contact Ann at the library to see if possibly there is some kind of grant that can be applied for to microfilm them. Also, though not a member wouldn't this be a great project for the local Historical Society to take on. Perhaps place the documents in a better place at the Cultural Center? Again, I am not a member and this is just a thought I had. When I was recently in the basement of the Chancery Clerk Building I was amazed at how many records were missing. I wondered at the time if people just took them. No One watches you down there and it would be easy to just walk off with them. That would be a shame as others will eventually want to access them. Maybe the board of Supervisors could donate them to the local library genealogy room. Just a few thoughts, Gigi ----- Original Message ----- From: Martha Boggs<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost I have heard that if LDS film old records they copyright them and then you have to access them through LDS. This may not be correct. I don't think they leave the microfilm in the county. Please correct me if I am wrong. Martha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 8:43 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost Have the records been filmed by the LDS? If not, contact them to see if they will come and film them. At least, then there will be a permanent record of all of the documents and it will call attention to their neglect. Julia French Wood ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Attala Historical Society web site? The URL is http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~msahs/> Now would be a good time to support the Attala Historical Society! ==== MSATTALA Mailing List ==== Were you aware that a portion of the Diary of Judge Jason Niles is available online at the Attala County American Local History Network site? Just click on the link http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/<http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ms/county/attala/jasonniles.htm/>

    05/04/2004 06:57:04
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. Years ago when I was doing some research in the Courthouse in Attala County, a lady told me ab out a room in the basement that had some old records in it and was welcome to go and look at them. I went down stairs and it was as though someone had stood at the door and threw them in. I was hoping b y now that those records had been given to the library. What would be wrong in the county giving those records to the library and them being filed in the library. I don't live in that county but I bet you get people from the Historical Society to donate their time and get the records filed so they would not be lost forever. Marilyn

    05/04/2004 06:50:44
    1. Re: [MSATTALA] Attala Records Rapidly Being Lost
    2. In a message dated 5/4/2004 11:07:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have heard that if LDS film old records they copyright them and then you have to access them through LDS. This may not be correct. I don't think they leave the microfilm in the county. Please correct me if I am wrong. Martha > Yes, but it is no big deal. You may order the film to be sent to a LDS Family History Center near you. There is one in, almost, every city. The cost of $3.40 for the postage is certainly less than a trip to Attala Co., MS for most of us. The film can be kept for about 3 weeks to be viewed at your convenience for free on the microfilm readers. And the pages can be copied for a small fee. We have a new computer system at our LDS so the pages can be saved to disk for no charge or the copies are only 5 cents each. If the LDS microfilm the documents, they will be preserved forever and easy for everyone to view. They may give the courthouse a copy, too, I don't know more than what I have stated. I do know that researchers had made trips to the Attala County courthouse and had been told that they didn't have or couldn't find the Will Books for the mid 1800s and I found that the LDS had filmed them and got my gggrandfather, Hardy Bridges', Will and Probate records from the film. Julia French Wood

    05/04/2004 06:33:34