Helen, Which Old Salem Baptist do you mean? Katie >From: "HELEN" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOYERS] William MYERS / LINDSEY'S ca1750-1850 in >WashingtonWythe Montgo VA >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:00:49 -0500 > >chrissy, you have my terrell line on the sheets that i sent to you. if >anything hits, let me know. now i also have it back to where the terrell >trails have taken it. that is where i first heard of the unk line. > >also, chrissy, there may be something that many do not know about records. >i found this out and of course, i may have been the last to be told >this.....i drove past a seminary one day and said, oh, they won't have >anything...come to find out that all seminaries have some of the largest >and >most back dated materials. reason: when a church closes, they send their >record books to the seminary closest to that church. the methodist are >located at smu in dallas, the baptist are located in ft. worth and so on. >so if no one has researched the seminaries, they have the "gosh awfullist" >bunch of material you have ever seen and they even have the old books from >the church which is where many of your dates are found on births, deaths >and >marriages. i have some copies of the old salem baptist church of christ >which is where david haden myers (i am told taught school in the day time >and on sunday and other times, taught bible study and sundy school.). >there >is just an immense amount of material at the seminaries. you can actually >find real anacestors there. > >blessings, helen. > > >==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== >-- The MOYERS Rootsweb List -- > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Linda, Any suggestions? I tried the Southern Baptist Organization - they swear they have records dating back to the "Circuit Riding days" - nope - no help. They couldn't even tell me where to begin. In bigger cities historical societies and libraries, like here in Baltimore carry alot of records - but in the smaller mountainous areas I might have to wait til I can get to TN and just start banging on doors. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Bobbye, Thanks for the lead! Shew, makes the haystack a bit smaller just the same. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER > Chrystie, > > Try the Baptist Headquarters in Nashville, Tenn. I understand that they have > just about everything on churches in the Southeast. I know that Sanford > University, Birmingham, has a great research dept. open to the public. It > isn't just Southern Baptist info, but other denominations also. > > Bobbye

Let me know if it's printing out ok. And who is Julius MYERS??????????? I don't believe I've ever seen that first name in my travels. Has anybody any idea??? There were alot of MOYER MYERS that wrote about the Indians plight which might explain why so many of us have been handed down info from our grandparents that we have Indian mixed in with the other blood - this Julius, I have to look up more on him at the Library of Congress - shall report my findings;) P.S. I was told today that my website is being observed by "higher uppers" For those that know what I'm talking about - the court thing. Well, at least they can't say I'm an idle whatever. Just not sure if 'they" will claim the "See, she can get by without him"... you know. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

You got it Katie! -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Christie can I have copy of photo to with the Indians.. please please .. Susi Blessed EASTER to all.

Here are some Moore obituaries that are not related to my Moore's. Or at least haven't been connected yet. Father - Daniel Moore Mother - Jane McKee Son Wm. H. Moore b 2/11/1842 in PA d 6/11/1917 in Buffalo TWP, Wash. Co. PA married to Elizabeth Hagerty buried in Wash. Cem. no obit. found Son of Wm. H. Moore and Elizabeth Hagerty Wm. Campbell Moore b 8/16/1870 Buffalo TWP, Wash. Co. PA d 5/20/1946 Wash. PA married to Gertrude Clark buried in Wash. Cem. obit from The Wash. Rep. 5/21/1946 WILLIAM CAMPBELL MOORE William Campbell Moore, Washington R.D.5, died Monday, May 20, 1946, at 3:35 p.m. at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Emerson Horn, 420 Henderson Avenue, following an illness of seven weeks. Mr. Moore was born Aug. 16, 1870, in Buffalo Township, a son of William H. and Elizabeth Hagerty Moore. He had worked in the oil fields and on his farm on Washington R. D. 5, and was employed for a year at Hazel Atlas No.2 plant two years ago. He leaves his wife Getrude Clark Moore; the following daughters, Mrs. Ethel Miles, at home; Gladys, wife of W. K. Perkins, of Evanston Ill.; Sara M., wife of Emerson Horn, 420 Henderson avenue; two sisters, Mrs. Emma J. McMannis, of Wooster, O.; Mrs. Dessie H. Crothers, Elgin, Ill.; two brothers, Dr. Robert F. Moore, Wilmington, Del.; Walter B. Moore, Elgin, Ill.; two grandchildren. Father -John T. Moore Mother -Lametta Ruth Moore >From The Wash. Rep. 6/2/1971 WILLIAM R. MOORE William R. Moore, 83, of Claysville R.D.1, died in Washington Hospital at 2:45 p.m. Tuesday, June 1, 1971, following a serious illness of 11 days. He was born January 30, 1888, in Beham, a son of John T. and Lametta Ruth Moore, and had lived in the Claysville community all his life. Mr. Moore was a member of Pleasant Grove Baptist Church, and was a road supervisor for Buffalo Township for the past 36 years, serving six terms. He was a member of the Donegal Hunting Camp and was an avid outdoorsman. On Spetember 28, 1910, he married Anna Margaret Crowe, who died October 5, 1970. Surviving are one son, Robert K. Moore, of Claysville R. D. 1; one sister, Mrs.Annabelle Stillwell, of Claysville; two grandchildren, Shirley, wife of J.D. Richmond and Robert C. Moore, both of Claysville and seven great-grandchildren. Father - Joseph Moore >From The Wash. Ob. 7/23/1923 SAMUEL R.MOORE SAMUEL MOORE DIES AT AGE OF 91 YEARS Native of Amwell Township, for Many Years Resident of Washington, Succumbs to Complications. Samuel R. Moore, a native of Amwell township, but long a resident of Washington, having lived a retired life for many years, died Saturday at 4:30 a. m. at the Leslie home, 45 West Walnut street, where he had made his home. Had he lived until August 31 he would have been 92 years of age. Death was do to complications, he having been in failing health for some time, and in a critical condition for several days. He was born in the Amity section, being a son of Joseph Moore. He came to Washington in 1865. He was at one time in the grocery business in the old Phoenix row. North Matin street, now the Capitol theatre building. The firm was known as Harsha & Moore. Giving up the grocery business he took up other business, dealing considerably in real estate about Washington, and owning at the time of his death a number of properties. He at one time lived in and owned the building at the southeast corner of Main and Walnut streets, later known as the Stocking property. Also at one time he owned and resided in the property, remoldeled of later years, where George W. Swingle now lives, at 591 West Chestnut street, just west of the brow of the West Chestnut street hill. He sold that property back about 1885 to the late Dr. D.H. Lewis, of Washington, which was that physician's home for several years, he subsequently selling it to Mr. Swingle. When Mr. Moore lived there, and at the time Dr. Lewis moved there, that part of Washington was out in the township, a part of what was known as Rankin town. Mr. Moore's first wife was Mary E. Wilson, of Pigeon Creek. She died in 1875, when black diphtheria was epidemic in this community. Four children were born to that union, one dying in infancy. Those surviving are J. Frank Moore, of Washington; S. W. Moore of Grand Rapids, Mich., but in business in Detroit, and Thomas W. Moore, of Washington. Mr. Moore's second wife was Sarah Brownlee, of North Franklin township. She died in 1911. Mr. Moore was a consistent member of the First U. P. church. Dr. Huber Ferguson, pastor of that church will conduct the funeral services which will be held at 2:30 o'clock this afternoon. Samuel W. Moore Father - Samuel R. Moore Mother - Mary E. Wilson >From The Wash. Ob. 9/25/1931 Former Local Citizen Passes Away in Home In Detroit, Michingan Samuel W. Moore, 75, for many years a resident of this city, died in his home at Detroit, Mich., Wednesday morning. He left Washington only a few years ago. He was a brother of the late T. W. Moore, of East Wylie avenue, who died a year ago. His wife, Mrs. Jessie Moore, survives. The body will arrive in Washington this morning at 10 o'clock, and will be taken to the A. Blaine Day Funeral Home in West Maiden street, where funeral services will be held this afternoon at 2:30 o'clock, Eastern Standard Time. The Rev. R. W. Nairn of the Third United Presbyterian Church will be in charge. Interment will be in the Washington Cemetery. Thomas W. Moore Father - W. Walker Moore Mother - Mary Ann Cook Moore >From The Wash. Ob. 2/28/1962 THOMAS W. MOORE Thomas W. Moore, of Washington R. D. 6, died Tuesday, February 27, 1962, at 6:10 p. m. after a three week illness. He was born in Franklin Township, Washington County, March 7, 1875, the last son of W. Walker and Mary Ann Cook Moore. He spent many years in the oil fields, returning in later years to the Moore farm in South Franklin Township. He was a member of the East Buffalo Presbyterian Church for many years. Mr. Moore lived the past 33 years with his sister, Mrs. Howard Vankirk, Washington R. D. 6. Surviving are three sisters, Agnes, wife of Howard Vankirk, Washington R. D. 6; Mrs Mary M. Day, Dunns Station R. D. 1, and Addie, wife of Williem E. Crosbie, Park avenue, and a number of of nieces and nephews. Four brothers and a sister are deceased. Bill Moore Washington, PA looking for Moore's, Huston's, Grayson's, Drake's, Hurley's, Winter's, Burke's, all in Wash. Co. PA ==== PAWASHIN Mailing List ==== Be sure to visit: www.chartiers.com The Washington County Web Site

Ok, I accidentally sent the photo of a MYERS and Sitting bull to the list - sorry gang. Again, below if the information on the picture; you can view/download/print it out for your own enjoyment - use it for the dog - just don't sell it out on the corner ;) and if you promise not to place it out on ebay then by al means, go straight to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/Photos/juliusmyers.jpg ****** STORY OF ABOVE PHOTO: Found at "The Library of Congress" CATAGORY: Sioux Indians / E. L. Eaton CREATED/PUBLISHED [between 1860 and 1880?]. SUMMARY Group portrait of four Native American (Sioux) men and one white man. Identification reads: "front: Sitting Bull, Swift Bear, Spotted Tail (Brulé ), rear: Julius Meyer, Red Cloud (Oglala)." Two of the men carry top hats. NOTES Title supplied. Identification hand-written on back of print; printed on front below image. Source: Paul Harbaugh loan. Condition: Original has faded. SUBJECTS Sitting Bull,--1834?-1890 Swift Bear Spotted Tail,--1823-1881 Red Cloud,--1822-1909 Meyer, Julius,--fl. 1850-1880. Indians of North America--1860-1880. Dakota Indians--1860-1880. Brulé Indians--1860-1880. Oglala Indians--1860-1880. Tribal chiefs--1860-1880. Portrait photographs. Group portraits. Photographic prints. Film negatives. MEDIUM 1 photoprint ; 18 x 13 cm. (7 x 5 in.) 1 copy negative ; 13 x 10 cm. (5 x 4 in.) REPRODUCTION NUMBER X-31823 REPOSITORY Western History/Genealogy Department, Denver Public Library, 10 W. 14th Avenue Parkway, Denver, Colorado 80204. DIGITAL ID codhawp 10031823 http://gowest.coalliance.org/cgi-bin/imager?10031823 -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

That "MOYER BOOK" is something else, huh! I put everything out here for free - to share. Honestly, I don't believe anyone has rights to our ancestors. They're historical. You know. But to hear that they used my words and work and are selling it to others for $40 bucks - makes my stomach turn a bit. Not for me, but for people, not knowing any better who will pay this out. Really sad, isn't it. I've bought books out here too only to find their reprints, just a word or two changed in the title. Wow, that "woman" that wrote this book probably doesn't know it but........ (don't know if I should laugh or cry right now) but there are errors in the work; some things I haven't had time to fix online; or lineage that I've since found and haven't had time to update online... some of it's from my poor little fingers typing horrible errors on the keyboard - TYPOS! And I was using Familytree maker and it's a mess to disconnect the wrong parents, spouses, etc.... so... I'm only glad it's her name on that cover and not mine:) See, always something postive out of something bad BUT!!! I feel sorry for the people buying this book. $40 bucks! Shew, no wonder that one girl is so mad. I'd be too! -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Linda, You are not far from my cousins in Mesquite and Ennis. - Specks and Densmores. Bobbye

Linda, My Myers clan had BIG families, mostly males, and every one of them named their children the same thing. Thak God for the 1850 Census Even with Bible records you can have the wrong children in the wrong family. Same with my Roberts family. The Wilsons are the 8th most common name in the US; so, you can guess I have a number of brick walls. Bobbye

Chrystie, Try the Baptist Headquarters in Nashville, Tenn. I understand that they have just about everything on churches in the Southeast. I know that Sanford University, Birmingham, has a great research dept. open to the public. It isn't just Southern Baptist info, but other denominations also. Bobbye

Helen, I have ratted my brains out trying every Baptist (Southern) organization in TN; and not once did I ever think of a "Seminary". Brilliant idea!!!! Thanks Helen. An untapped resource. You're right. I'm going to contact (again) the East Tennessee Baptist Organization located near Haywood Co., NC (borders on TN) and ask them... "Where is your nearest Seminar"? THANKS HELEN AND HAPPY EASTER TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY and TO THE ENTIRE GROUP! -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Ok gang, Rather then trying to get the copy to everyone - I just uploaded the photo to my server. So, point your browser to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/Photos/juliusmyers.jpg It should come up. You can either click on the photo (selecting it) and drag it to your desktop or print it out from there. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

If anyone would like me to email them a "jpg" photograph of a Julius MYERS in a group picture with "Sitting Bull", "Red Cloud", "Swift Bear" - of the Dakota Indians, email me at [email protected] and I'll send the photo to you. It was taken by E.L. EATON, and is on loan to the "Libary of Congress" for all to see. Needless to say, it's one very old photo. I can't send html formatted email over rootsweb or I'd place it here right now for all to see. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Thanks, Chrystie. I got the picture & am printing it. Marie Whatley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chrystie Myes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: [MOYERS] RE: Julius MYERS and Sitting Bull - Better Idea > Ok gang, > > Rather then trying to get the copy to everyone - I just uploaded the photo > to my server. > > So, point your browser to > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/Photos/juliusmyers.jpg > > It should come up. You can either click on the photo (selecting it) and drag > it to your desktop or print it out from there. > -- > Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM > List Administrator - [email protected] > BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER > > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > Post Your Queries Often! > Chrystie MYERS - MOYERS List Adm. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Please send me the photo, Chrystie. Thanks Marie Whatley [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chrystie Myes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:31 PM Subject: [MOYERS] RE: Julius MYERS w/Sitting Bull > If anyone would like me to email them a "jpg" photograph of a Julius MYERS > in a group picture with "Sitting Bull", "Red Cloud", "Swift Bear" - of the > Dakota Indians, email me at [email protected] and I'll send the photo > to you. It was taken by E.L. EATON, and is on loan to the "Libary of > Congress" for all to see. Needless to say, it's one very old photo. > > I can't send html formatted email over rootsweb or I'd place it here right > now for all to see. > -- > Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM > List Administrator - [email protected] > BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER > > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > -- MOYERS List Administrator - Chrystie MYERS -- > -- The MOYERS RootsWeb.com List Adm. -- > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

i was not there fifteen minutes until i found everything i wanted. they have a card index and all of my myers and basses were sticking out like a sore thumb. someone did an excellent job of the indexing in the fort worth library. i have Xeroxed everything there including the book of the minutes of the church...about 300 pages...it is in two volumes and at 25 cents a page no less. they will not let you Xerox the book, they have to do it and it was rather costly but so many wanted the book that we made so many copies, and they insisted that the original cost of my book be added and then we divided the total cost of all the books between us. i did the work, gasoline etc free but they paid for the original plus the copies. it really did not cost all that much when it was all said and done. love, hugs and blessings, helen.

hold on crissy...is that the closest seminary to your churches? now remember they have housed texas materials but doubt that texas would have is it tennessee things. some where in tennessee or the closest seminary to any of your churches but i bet that the seminary in dallas could tell you where to write or call or even e mail now, for the info. it is my understanding that the closest seminary to where ever the church was located... and the same denomination was what they told me. surely, there is more than one methodist or baptist seminary...for gosh sakes, with all these preachers, there would have to be more than one. call your local church...baptist if your ancestor was a baptist or methodist if he was a methodist...and just ask them where the closest seminary is or would be to that church he pastored. glad i could be of some help to someone...usually i am on the receiving end of the line and it feels good to be on the giving end. lots of love and hugs and many many blessings...may they come today. helen.

Curious in Oklahoma Texas, etc area.. ?? Susi