Dianna, I've been seeing alot of material with Baptist and Presbyterian mixed in the same paragraphs, like the one below. Did these two groups have a common faction at one time? I love your writings, very interesting. I'm assuming that Hiwassee is one and the same as the one in Towns County, GA - bordering se TN? BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:39:04 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MOYERS] Sketches of Tennessee's Pioneer Baptist Preachers > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:39:19 -0600 > > There must have been many different factions of the Baptist in the early > 1800's. Continuing from the same book "Sketches of..." > "The first introductory sermon before the Hiwassee Association (1824 one > year after its organization) was preached by Elder George Snider. The same > year he was chosen Moderator of that body, and served in that capacity as > long as the body had an existence, some five or six years. He was Moderator > of the Convention (1830) which created the "Sweetwater United Baptist > Association,'" and served as Moderator of the new body from fourteen to > sixteen years--up to within a year of his death. When the Association > divided (1837) on the question of missions, ....." > In my earlier post I should have stated that George Snider moved to > Monroe County, Tennessee which was a part of the "Hiwassee Purchase." He was > born in Shenandoah County, Virginia, January 1, 1769. "In 1797 he professed > a hope in Christ and united with the Presbyterians, in which connection he > continued about fifteen years, leading a pious and consistent life. He had > never studied the question of baptism, however, and upon a careful > examination of that question he joined the Baptist Church at Miller's Cove, > and was baptized, June 27, 1812, by Elijah Rogers." > I hope this is of value to someone on the list. Dianna >

Helen, Tell me more about the "Primitive" type of Baptist. Foot washing... do you mean they were in the rivers alot, so to speak? Like pictures I've seen. I'm fairly certain, from old photo's that they were very... "hillish" aw geez, I mean... mountainous.;) No disrespect intended now. I have "mountainous" folks on both maternal and paternal. I've joked about myself being from an old "hillish" type family. Please, no offense to anyone out here. Ok, I'll just say it. I live in the big city, but deep down inside, I'm a hillbilly;) And dabnabbit, proud of it too! Obviously, the Mennonite's Lutheran type religion; Presbyterian and Methodist were the first here in America; Baptist a short time later. Just knowing the difference bet Primitive and Southern would help in my search. In other words Helen, you're telling me to not look in the city areas in TN; but rather the mountains? LOL BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html > your are right about the primative and southern. are you checking the > primative Baptist? i do not know a member of our family that was ever > primative (in the south called foot washing baptist) and i don't think that > anyone means that as a slur against anyone...it is just that they are truly > two different types of baptist altogether. thanks....i didn't even think > about that. there are a few primative here but they are mostly southern > baptist. that does not mean though that you do not have primative baptist > in your line. the two are very different types of baptist so i am told.

Betty and Katie, Just yesterday I seen John MYERS and his wife Catherine COUCH's records up in Westminster Library, Carroll Co., MD - alot of these holdings are actually from when the area was known as Funkstown - just a few miles from Pennsylvania. Matter of fact, the Amish have a large market there - of which I am not feeling well today from - ate too much of their great German Amish food. Was Catherine's surname seen as CROUCH at times? Was John's surname orginally MOYERS from possibly Culpeper, VA? Did these two folks end up in Greene Co., TN. John MOYERS, son of Vincent MOYERS b 1721 d 1797 and Elizabeth NEWCOMER. Other children of Vincent and Eliz. include: Maria, Salome, Benjamin, Anna, Christian, Barbara. Vincent, son of Hans George MAYER b 1681 d 1753 and Barbara LANDIS. Other children: John, Christian (seen as Christoph), Veronica, Abraham, Elias, Georg, Michael. (all above sons had the word Hans before their first names - common practice during that era). Hans George had two brothers that I know of; one's name is speculation; the other was Hans Johannes (seen as Johan/Johann) MAYER. They were the children of Hans "Rev Vincent" or Martin Mayer b. Sep 12, 1647 d May 23 1693 and Anna HENN b abt 1647 d. Sept 14, 1706 (m. May 31, 1668 Gross, Sachsenheim, Germany. Hans Vincent or Martin MAYER, son of Hans Georg(e) "John George" MAYER b May 18, 1611 and Anna Marie Margaretha (K)JUPFER both from Gross, Schsenheim called the Free Imperial City of Ulm. Other sons were Hans Christo Georg and Hans Johannes Melchior MAYER b 1636 Tell me, were they in MD and PA bef migrating into TN? If VA, do you know about where? VA covered alot of territory at one long time ago. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER > From: Betty L Myers <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:48:32 -0600 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MOYERS] Re: Myers and Lindsey > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:50:25 -0600 > > Dear Katie, > > I am interested in your Myers/Lindsey lines. I have a Jacob Myers, son > of John Myers and Catherine Couch, who m. Mary Polly Lindsey. She was > one of his three wives. There is some debate on who the parents of Jacob > were. I feel he is the son of the above, but other researchers think he > was the son of Michael Myers and Nancy West. Be most interested in what > you have. > > Happy Hunting!!! > > Betty Myers

I probably told everyone already but just in case.. Goto goto http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html Look under NEW and click on Library of Congress Photos - you'll see letters and photos dating back to 1774; a few are letters that Christopher MOYERS/MYERS wrote to Abe LINCOLN; some are from the BLACKBURN'S writing to JEFFERSON and WASHINGTON; there's a Anne MYERS who did "espionage" work in 1774! See, we women were in control and you guys just didn't know it. Also, clck on The MEYER MIRROR - Wow, the lineage. I've only got not quite 1/2 of the sheets up and everyone of these lineage stories has at least 2 Jacob's (one of the zillion there were here eons ago) an Abraham - oh.... give me a few days and when I get all of the census records up you'll all flip. Yes Bobbye - a family with Jacob & Abrham. Aaaahhhaaa! -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Christie Take a deep breathe come up for air.. FInds are fabulous aren't they.. HUGS BLESSINGs and Have a good EASTER. Susi

Thank you Chrystie for all you do!! Brenda

1830/1840/1850 MD Census Records Various wards, districts and counties in Maryland; I found these yesterday at Westminster Library in Carroll Co., MD. I have tons of new files that I'll be uploading all week - alot of scanning involved. Many copied sheets for MAYER(S), MEYER(S), MOYER(S), MYERS from all over Maryland from 1830, 1840 and 1850 census records that I found at above library. Just give me time. I finally have the Library of Congress Photos & Letters (some from BLACKBURN'S written to Geo. Washigton, Jefferson and Lincolon) as well as different old MOYERS/MYERS homesteads photographs now online and ready to be viewed; also I found what is called "The MEYER MIRROR" - it's uploaded and now in the right viewing format. Again, I take NO CREDIT for the newletter The MEYER MIRROR - I found it in a file cabinet and the sign said it was there for all to ue freely; it was printe 20 years back and would love to find the people that produced this newsletter. It covers MEYER(S), MOYER(S), MYER(S), MIER(S), MEIER(S), MYRE(S), MAHER(S), MAYER(S) as it states as well as any variations. There is no set area for this newsletter - I found articles from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois and even the Dakotas. If anyone knows these people, please, email me 'cause I'd love to meet with them. NOTE: I merely placed in online for others to read that don't have access to Maryland holdings. Goto my main site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html Following the links under NEW - and please.... enjoy freely! Below is just a few of the GAY, HUFFMAN'S with various spellings I found for a few of our members but wait til you see all of the variations of MEYER/MIERS/MYERS/MOYERS I found. SAMPLING OF FINDINGS: 1830 MARYLAND FEDERAL CENSUS - Carroll County, MD GAY, Henry Harford County of 3rd District, Microfilm Nu. 352. GAY, Samuel Cecil County of 3rd Electorial, Microfilm Nu. 071. BLACKBURN, Jehew Harford County of 3rd Electorial, Microfilm Nu. 071. BLACKBURN, Mary Cecil County of 3rd Electorial, Microfilm Nu. 071. BLACKBURN, William Anne (unsure if this is Queen Anne or Anne Arundel) County of 3rd Electorial, Microfilm Nu. 071. (Many more GAY, HUFFMAN'S (and close spellings) - too many to type here - will scan them in placing them at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/censusrecords.html later this week). 1840 MARYLAND FED CENSUS MIER, Andrew Cecil County Microfilm 271 4th Dist. MIER, Matthew Cecil 272 4th Dist. (Obvious neighbors) MAHER, Minley Balto. 299 Balto MAHER, Thomas Balto. 005 1th Dist. MAHER, John Washington 145 Leitersburg MAJORS, Abdiel A. Frederick 271 5th Dist. MAJORS, Jacob Montgomery 268 Medley Electorial Dist. MAJORS, Jacob Montgomery 226 Medley Electorial Dist. MAJORS, Leonard Frederick 271 Frederick. MAJORS, Lewis Dorchester 077 Vienna. MAHR, John Allen 088 7th Dist. MARR, Ann Charles 173 1th Elect. MARR, Catherine Charles 179 1th Elect. MARR, John Batlo. 021 1st Dist. MARR, Christina Washington 101 Hagerstown. MEYER, George Balto. 265 Balto. MEYER, George Balto. 208 Balto. MEYER, Henry Balto. 048 2nd Dist. MEYERS, Charles M. Balto. 251 Baltmore MEYRES, George Carroll 051 Balto. MEYRES, Jacob Carroll 050 Balto. (neighbors) MEYRES, James Balto. 212 Balto. MEYRES, John Frederick 301 11th Dist. MEYRES, Samuel Frederick 201 11th Dist. MYRES, Schrick Balto. 196 Balto. MOYER, Charles F. Balto. 023 Balto. MOYER, Christopher Balto. 263 Balto. MOYER, Daniel Washington 086 Hagerstown. MOYER, Jacob Washington 123 Hagerstown. MOYER, Henry Washington 178 Clean Springs MOYER, John Washington 120 Hagerstown. MOYER, Daniel Balto. 082 Balto. HUFFMAN, Henry Frederick 193 3rd Dist. HUFFMAN, John Washington 088 Hagerstown HUFFMAN, Martin Washington 137 Calvertown HUFFMAN, Jsohua Washington 101 Hagerstown GAY, Celestine Balto. 135 Balto. GAY, James Balto. 042 Balto. GAY, Richard M. Balto. 142 4th Dist. GAY, Samuel Jr. Cecil 248 3rd Dist. GAY, Samuel Sr. Cecil 242 3rd Dist. (Again, I have about 20 pages of MEIER MIER MAYER MAHER MOYER MOYERS MYERS MYRES MEYER and many other variations along with GAY and HUFFMAN'S to scan to the web) Give me the week to get them uploaded and online. 1850 MARYLAND FEDERAL CENSUS HUFFMAN, Elizabeth Washington 225 1st Dist. HUFFMAN, Frederick Balto. 008 4th Ward. HUFFMAN, Georg Balto. 232 2nd Ward. HUFFMAN, Henry Balto. 383 13th Ward. HUFFMAN, Isaac Carroll 231 2nd Ward. HUFFMAN, Jacob Harford 083 2nd Ward. HUFFMAN, Jacob Sr. Frederick 414 8th Dist. HUFFMAN, Lefman Balto. 399 3rd Dist. HUFFMAN, Thomas Frederick 414 8th Electorial Dist. MIER, David B. Allegheny 196 Cumberland. MIER, John Allegheny 120 5th Dist. MIER, John Balto. 278 2nd Ward. MOYER, Barbary Washington 205 1st Dist. MOYER, Daniel Washington 166 Funkstown (inside Westminister) old townname MOYERS, Mary Balto. 064 4th Dist. This is just a small portion - again, check my website later this week for all of the scanned copies. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Dear Katie, I am interested in your Myers/Lindsey lines. I have a Jacob Myers, son of John Myers and Catherine Couch, who m. Mary Polly Lindsey. She was one of his three wives. There is some debate on who the parents of Jacob were. I feel he is the son of the above, but other researchers think he was the son of Michael Myers and Nancy West. Be most interested in what you have. Happy Hunting!!! Betty Myers

Linda, He probably migrated West with my Isaac. ; ) Bobbye

I couldn't sleep til I got this right. Now, goto http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg1.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg2.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg3.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg4.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg5.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg6.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg7.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg8.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg9.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg10.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror/pg11.jpeg Sorry all, I was so just so excited. Tomorrow I'll have it all links at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/meyermirror.html Also, I'll try and get the rest of the 30 pages up online too. And, I have loads of 1830, 1840 and 1850 Maryland Census records (remember that Carroll and Frederick Counties here in MD) were once a major connection to PA; and still is. I have every known variation of MOYER MOYERS MEIER MEYER etc.... I could find; I also have alot of HUFFMAN'S and GAY'S along w/other surnames I'll scan up during this week. Just keep an eye on the mainsite at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html look under NEW. Good night all and have a wonderful Easter tomorrow. -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Bobbye, I have in one line a Shadrack and Abedenego, and I am looking for Meshak <G> Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [MOYERS] RE: Exciting News - I hit the MEIR/MIER/MOYER/MYERS Mother load ... > CHRYSTIE!!!!!!!!!! > > Do you realize you used Jacob, Abraham and Isaac all in one sentence. I'm to > tired and sleepy to go there tonight, but will hit it first thing in the > morning. > > Bobbye > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > Contact the MOYERS List Adm. > at [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

CHRYSTIE!!!!!!!!!! Do you realize you used Jacob, Abraham and Isaac all in one sentence. I'm to tired and sleepy to go there tonight, but will hit it first thing in the morning. Bobbye

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Try this url - http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg1.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg2.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg3.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg4.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg5.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg6.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg7.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg8.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg9.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg10.jpeg http://freepages.genealogy/rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg11jpeg Enjoy! ----- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Hi all, Great news group. Today, while visiting the Westminster Library in Carroll County, MD today I found great MOYER MOYERS MIERS MIER MAHER MYRES MYERS MEYER(S) finds, today!!! I'm doing my best to get everything uploaded to my server; I need to place them as links on a conected page to our homesite but... if you want to see this great 20 year old newsletter called, "The MEYER MIRROR" you're gonna love it. There are articles about Jacob; Christian; Isaac; Abraham - you name it. >From PA, MD, the Dakotas; Illinois, Ohio, I lost track. I am going to try and write the person that did the 2 years of this newsletter find - it's fantastic. If anyone out here has ever heard of this group, please let me know. I'd love to find out if they're still doing this MEYER MIRROR newslette. I'm only scanning in the sheets - by no means do I take credit for this fine work; I'm going to try and write to those who's addresses are lsited - but since it was in a file cabinet that was donated for all to use; I'm assuming that the person is either no longer with us or gave it up, age? Who knows. Ok, til I get the website page ready, for now, if you wish to see these pages, which I scanned in for 8 1/2 x 11 printable in black and white just goto http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/MeyerMirror/pg1.jpeg Now, continue to do this to see each page; I'm up to pg12 thus far; getting sleeping here - been a long day so here's how to do it. Just replace the last part of the "address above" with pg2.jpeg and then pg3.jpeg til you reach pg12.jpeg. Wait, read the next email - there's plenty more information I'm going to share with all of you and will put it all up on the website for all to read and print out at your leisure, but for now, it will just have to do as such. Also, have alot of Census records I photocopied that I'll be scanning up to my site for printing. Bare with me - this takes time. Look for following email - I have HUFFMANS/GAY'S to report too! -- Chrystie MYERS - ROOTSWEB.COM List Administrator - [email protected] BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER

Helen wrote: >From: "HELEN" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOYERS] RE: The American Baptist Historical Society >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:08:24 -0500 > >your are right about the primative and southern. are you checking the >primative Baptist? i do not know a member of our family that was ever >primative (in the south called foot washing baptist) and i don't think that >anyone means that as a slur against anyone...it is just that they are truly >two different types of baptist altogether. thanks....i didn't even think >about that. there are a few primative here but they are mostly southern >baptist. that does not mean though that you do not have primative baptist >in your line. the two are very different types of baptist so i am told. > >blessings, helen. Finding out which church the ancestors were in can really help the search. My Myers (Moyers) connection was married in the Primitive Baptist, but I am pretty sure her parents were German Lutheran, and his parents were Presbyterian Scots-Irish. The next few generations were Baptist. It seems, once in the frontiers of VA and TN, they would change denominations depending on the local preachers. Baptists didn't require formal education and ordination, and so suited the wilderness in the early years. Don't assume they stayed in the same sect as their parents or that they didn't change. The period from 1830 to after the civil War was quite disruptive in the churches because of major issues from slavery to which hymnal was used. There is lots of good info on the net on the church histories and old hymns etc. Happy hunting. Katie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Helen, Most of our Myers were Primitive Baptist, some were preachers, some gave land for churches and some are still members of the Primitive Baptist Church. The Primitive Baptist did not believe in missions and missionaries nor did they have music in the church building. Your voices were God's musical instrument. I believe you will find that most of the early Baptist in the South were Primitive Baptist. Roger Williams was run out of one of the states and went to Providence, R.I. and established the first Baptist Church. The church split over missionaries/missions. All my ancestors were Primitive Baptist as far back as I have been able to trace them. Family lore has Jacob Myers leaving the Palatine because of religious persecution. I have a feeling he may have been Lutheran there. When he left there, it was the Holy Roman Empire. Wish I knew more. My husband's mother's family came from Sweden, and they have records through the Church back to forever. Helen you are a jewel. I wish I lived near enough to you to talk with you and pick your brain. Bobbye

Christie , take care on the roads and take care of self.. HUGS Blessed EASTER. Susi

MY MYERS line is from SWITZerland also.. Susi

your are right about the primative and southern. are you checking the primative Baptist? i do not know a member of our family that was ever primative (in the south called foot washing baptist) and i don't think that anyone means that as a slur against anyone...it is just that they are truly two different types of baptist altogether. thanks....i didn't even think about that. there are a few primative here but they are mostly southern baptist. that does not mean though that you do not have primative baptist in your line. the two are very different types of baptist so i am told. blessings, helen.