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    1. [MOYERS] Re: MIGRATION ON THE GREAT WAGON ROAD - MOYER(S), MAYER(S), MYERS
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. Here we go. A brief history on "Migration" and the "Great Wagon Roads". In my own words so don't laugh and keep up with me here;) Virginia Valley was first used by traders and hunters on the old Warrior's Trail belonging to the Indian's for tradings and for tribal war (war paths). Now we know where that term came from. Indian trading on these warpaths stemmed from the northern area of what is today New York, extending to the Atlantic Ocean and reaching as far south as the Carolina's. This trail was to be one of the most major trails used by our pioneer settlers. And they had to stay east of the mountains though eventually they did find gaps; many of them. But, to use these gaps to cross over into the great westerly areas of VA and OH they had to literally zig zag around which explains who they ended up in the Carolina's and Tennesse before hitting Kentucky and back into Ohio. They literally trailed westerly only to have to again head easterly - gaps, they had to find "gaps" in the mountains; some even went south only to have to head back north again; then westerly and easterly, back and forth - these poor yet determined souls had no other choice always looking behind their backs for Indians, French and British to grab at them; as well as running from their ship masters who literally owned their hides. So, these Indian trails were pretty well defined for the new white settlers holding close to the Atlantic between NY City and Phil. PA. The valley ran westerly and as you got more "down south" the paths followed along the west side of the Blue Ridge for over 100 miles and then there are 3 splits which I'll explain later. This old Warrior's Trail became the "Great Wagon Road", Route 11 and according to an old map which dates back pre 1750 (in front of me now) all roads from the northeast lead to Winchester, first! So... Looking at a map I'll explain it as such: 1 - Starting from Boston you could go only 2 ways. a. Due south into Providence; southwesterly into NY and NJ; a bit more west but more southerly into Trenton; from there a deep west cut into Philadelphia. NOTE: Once in Phil. PA the road now splits again, 2 ways. Our ancestors could head straight down in a southwesterly direction into Baltimore or continue due west into Lancaster. b. If our ancestors decided to head for Lancaster he/she would head into York County, PA; from there again due south slanting a bit more westerly over the Potomac (in Maryland now in areas such as Harpers Ferry and Frederick/Carroll Counties) and continue straight in a south (tilting west) direction straight into WINCHESTER. From there they'd continue to head down Route 11 (The old Wagon trail) into the Shenandoah Valley and straight into Staunton, VA continuing on into Big Lick (Roanoke). Now, he's hitting gaps. (Not til later in the decades did they venture enough to find these gaps) so he's gotta go back heading due east with a southern tilt til he ends up in Warrenton. From there he can either go southwest to Raleigh NC and continue to dip south but with more of a westerly tilt into Camden SC and finally resting in Augusta, Georgia. c. If the pioneer decided to head for Baltimore, MD he would continue south to Annapolis, MD; head due west gapping southerly a bit and ending up in Alexandria; from this point he can continue due west and end up in WINCHESTER. Again, he can continue due south w/westerly tile into the Shenandoah Valley to Staunton and then Roanoke (Big Lick). This old Indian trail that was known to white settlers as the The Great Wagon Road winded it's way through the Valley of Virginia connecting them with the northern seaports and the Carolina coastlines as well as more inside of the North Atlantic but still west of the Mountains creating the thoroughfare of the Cumberland gap. They slowly dredged these trails to fit their wagons in a southerly direction but wanted to go westerly because VA and PA were hitting them hard for taxes, land grants were not up for grabs, the rich stayed that way, much as they do today. One problem; about 85 percent of the immigrants were "indentured slaves". They were under the very gripes of what they fled from across the Atlantic Ocean - taxes and religious persecution. About 25 families, all inter-married/connected bought up most of the land and held these poor 85 percenter's heads for up to 7 years at a time. These 85 percenter's were the ones that pushed further and further in a southwesterly fashion, risking their lives and their families just to have freedom from high taxes and to live the way they dreamed of on those horrible voyages where they lost entire families more times then recorded. (These are my own words here). The settlers wanted to head westerly for more fertile lands for a better chance of growing good crops to support their families. In 1717, thousands of Scotch-Irish merged with the German Palatine pioneers whom were already here but the Scotch-Irish choose to deal with the Indians rather then the Germans. PA and MD was famous for land arguments which is what sent these S-Irish out of PA and MD and into VA. Now, let's backup. 2 - We're back to WINCHESTER again, route 11. If a settler decided against the Shenandoah and Roanoke because of the dangers, he had one wa to go - east where he ended up due north of Alexandrea. From here he can only go south to Fredericksburg. And now the road splits 3 ways. 3 Splits from Fredericksburg 1. Due southeast to Williamsburg; continue on into Jamestown (east). Now, he's heading southwest on old Kings Hwy. through New Bera, NC into Wilmington / Cape Fear. From there he continues straight down the coastline to Charleston later arriving in Savannah, Georgia. 2. Due south through Richmond on old Fall Line Road; continuing south into Petersburg and eventually ending up iin Warrenton; from there he's now southeastly heading into Wake and Raleigh and as he continues on his path he's slanting more westerly over into Camden, SC and again arriving in Augusta, GA. 3. From Fredericksburg (as all 3 are) he's due south but now for long; the road tilts west as he heads down the Upper Road of the Carolina's passing through Amelia, and later Hillsboro. From there he stops over in Salisburg. Now, take the west slant off he's again heading due south into Charlotte. Obviously, as I look at this map, our ancestor's more then likely either opted to do 1 of 2 things; Settle near where he landed, evetually migrating nearby looking for better climate and crop lands OR take the big southwest plunge! 1- Settling In Boston, MA where he arrived from Europe upon the Atlantic Ocean. In Providence, RI where he arrived from Europe upon the Atlantic Ocean. In Albany, NY where he arrived from Europe upon the Great Lakes. In NY or NJ where he arrived from Europe upon the Atlantic Ocean. In Annapolis, Frederick or Baltimore, MD where he arrived from Europe upon the Atlantic Ocean at Annapolis watertown. In Lancaster, York or Phila., PA where he arrived from Europe upon the Atlantic Ocean either coming down from the northern areas or from Annapolis. In Providence, RI where he arrived from Europe upon the Atlantic Ocean. He could have landed near Annapolis, MD and headed down the route/path directly into Alexandria and from there head due west into WINCHESTER. Since the Mohawk Valley stemmed from NY leading from the Great lakes, this would surely seem more like a feasiable route. And ca 1725 - 1750 there were 4 major areas to migrate to. All books that I've read show that our pioneer ancestors really wanted to get to the lands of OHIO but between finding a good safe route and dodging arrows, muskats and taxes, well, their only choose was to head into the Carolina's, land that is now TN. North Carolina held most of the settlers back pre 1800 because the Indians had a treaty by this time with the French. Though some settlers snuck through anyway, NC did all they could to keep them back BUT North Carolina was not without sin. NC was selling land grants to our ancestos ca 1786 - this was long before allowable according to Indians treaties. No wonder they went on the warpath. So, the 4 major trails were: 1 - Indian Traders, they were first with the likes of Daniel BOONE cutting trails to make them big enough for wagons and families to travel on. Alot of politics took place even back in those days; because as long as the Indians held they're lands fur trading was like gold selling to larger companies from England and this obviously is another reason the French and British didn't get along, much less with the indentured settlers. 2 - Cattle and hogs, oh the cattlemen wanted those free green grazing lands of VA and as the frontiermen came in further and futher they forced back the range of lands avail. marketwise for the cattlemen. 3 - Land Speculators. Again the King of England didn't want to allow the colonial settlers to take western territory rather England wanted to use the land for wealth, location location location. While the French had already sucessfully made treaties w/the Indians and their trade was booming in the north and northeast, England was grabbing lands in the south. And the German and Scotch Irish ignored all of this, moving onto lands and laying claim. And while this is going on, the Land Speculators are seeking to controll the best lands w/dreams of cashing in on land rent and seller's fees. 4 - The Farmer; he'd clear land, plant crops and raise a family while all of this is going on around him. He took over land without a deed, worked hard to build communites and local gov'ts and helped to improve trails so he could trade his crop products better. Now, this "farmer" would pickup every 5 years or so and just move a bit more south or southwest everytime one of the above 3 moved in and tried to speculate land; raise taxes; tell him what to do and how to do it including religion - hence the migrartion. NEXT - SHENANDOAH VALLEY MOUNTAIN GAPS Chrystie MYERS BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html

    04/24/2001 01:53:58
    1. [MOYERS] RE: Frederick Co., VA (Shenandoah Valley) MAYERS MYERS
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. Hi all, The photos of Stephens City, Frederick Co., VA will be back Thurs eve. I'll try and get everyone of them "up and online" by Sunday night along with maps; land tracts with bio's on each house and it's occupants as well as it's location. Photos include: MAYERS and MYERS homes, cabins, shops, tombstones, churches; land tracts from ca 1765 maybe earlier; graveyards, etc. I'm getting back up there a.s.a.p. and this time I'll get as many records as I can at Winchester's library; I hear it's great! And to think, this Stephens City, formerly "Newtown" & "Stephensburg" is right on old Route 11, an old wagontrail and right over the next mountain (South is not it's name but ?? will get it in my mind soon) is Spotsylvania / Germanna area. Maryland is about 30 minutes up the road as well as West VA and PA. SAMPLE: Lutheran and Reformed Church and Cemetery at the corner of Mulberry Street and Marlboro; This lot was purchased in 1785 as a log church was built there by 1786. A brick bldg. was erected in 1812 and enlarged in 1851 and 1880. It was torn down in 1906 but they used the original bricks for the interior wall that now stands. At the cemetery lies a "Leonard MYERS". Til I get the photos back my guess is he was born in the mid 1700's; died early 1800's. His was is there too. There are other MAYERS and MYERS here as well as another cemetery on German Street which runs parallel with Main Street where several MAYERS had shops. Because this town was on a main wagontrail most of the shops focus was on "wagon repairs" and "rebuilding" etc... such as G.F. MAYERS store built sometime pre-1900 as a cigar factory on the 2nd fl and a farm tool business on the lower level; also the post office was here. It is believed that the property was purchased by G.F. MAYERS from John NOLEN, a pottery merchant ca 1820's. There are several other churches in the area which include a Methodist Church which was orginally licensed in 1835 as Captain Joseph LONG's Tavern; later McARTORS store. Also it was used by local militia and magistrates as a "court of inquiry" and town trustees for meetings ca 1800's. A very very old cabin, ca 1785 is on the corner of Marlboro and Greene Sts and it is registered belonging once to a "Jane MYERS". Who was she? Hmmm... There is a very large cemetery on a hill above Main Street as I found many associated surnames there as well. This city took quite a beating during the Civil War too having many homes, businesses and churches burned. There are also MAYERS and MYERS listed as "wagonmakers", "blacksmiths", "undertakers" as well as "cabinetmakers". The city was known as a "Valley Pike Town" and it hasn't change much at all in all of these centuries which is what I found to be most remarkable. Yet it sits, unassuming just waiting for a MOYERS MYERS MAYERS to walk in and dig up her old records... BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html

    04/24/2001 12:24:27
    1. [MOYERS] RE: Looking for the researcher with STATE of GEORGIA Connections
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. I can't remember the young lady's name whom I've been in contact with recently but it regards her "Georgia" ties. I received a SSI Application today (in error); I assumed I was requesting my great grandfather's but turns out, though of same name it's not him. If "she" see's this, contact me at my email address below and I'll send you a scanned image of his SSI. Andrew Jackson MYERS born January 18, 1886 in Grifin, Spauldin Co., GA Father: William Franklin MYERS Mother: Sarah Jane MITCHEL Race: White Male Chrystie MYERS BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html

    04/24/2001 11:11:56
    1. Re: [MOYERS] RE: MAYERS, MOYER(S) and MYERS of Frederick City ?? where? PA or MD
    2. NOpe stuff I read lists Maryland cause they go north too or back north I think is better term.. Susi

    04/24/2001 05:41:01
    1. Re: [MOYERS] RE: MAYERS, MOYER(S) and MYERS of Frederick City ?? where? PA or...
    2. Chrystie, Family lore has Isaac Myers going West via the Ohio River Route. Do you know where and what that rout was? Wouldn't it be ironic if Isaac ended up in Tennessee? Bobbye

    04/24/2001 03:59:31
    1. [MOYERS] RE: MAYERS, MOYER(S) and MYERS of Frederick City ?? where? PA or MD
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. I got to thinking, regarding the trip I made today - here all this time whenever I read about MOYER(S) MAYER(S) MEYER(S) and MYERS ca 1750 - ca 1800's from old "Frederick-town" and/or "Frederick City," I just assumed writer's and online poster's meant "Frederick" here in Maryland, an area very near PA; now I'm wondering... did they mean Frederick City, Frederick County, Virginia - not Maryland!?!? Any takers to this question??? P.S. Can't wait to get these picts online for you guys/gals! I even took picts of an old ca 1700's town land tracts map; you should see the MAYERS and MYERS... wow. Supposedly, old Germanna is very near this area; right over the next mountain. Just made me wonder, Leonard, Christopher, Isaac, Jacob and George MYERS seen in ca 1700 documents as well as their tombstones (seen these with my own eyes), yet the old town land tracts - household units, "first and last names - very detailed" had them listed as MAYERS. What a kick! Oh, an to boot... in this same document that list the above MYERS/MAYERS there's mention of the Monocacy River. This is in Maryland, I know, I grew-up in MD. Know that area very well, still live here in MD. Monocacy River is just outside of Frederick, Maryland; near the airport. Rode right by it today! You're just a hop, skip and a jump from the PA border. Because, if it's the line I'm hoping it is, they migrated from only two areas; VA and PA. From there they kept on going down along old Route 11 right smack into TN; and then by the time the mid to late 1800's came along more migration pickup and they broke over the Mississippi heading even more westerly. Though not taking from our associated surnames (without typing every darn one of them again) whom headed down to the Carolina's, too! Shew, had another great and just wanted to share it with all of you. What a kick, I tell you... wish all of you could have been there. Speaking of kicks, I go out of town for one day and you guys are kicking out here. We're alive again!!!! Isn't it great! I love the variety of subjects regarding our heritage, whatever it may be! Chrystie MYERS BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html

    04/23/2001 06:32:13
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. Thanks Marilyn. Helen is a sweety. I don't think she was being ugly, just trying to put us back on track. Bobbye

    04/23/2001 06:00:34
    1. [MOYERS] RE: A Remarkable Find
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. Today I traveled to Old Stephens City (once also known as Stephensburg and later Old Town, Stephens City) just 3 miles outside of Winchester, VA in Frederick County. A most remarkable small town with buildings, churches and cemeteries dating back to the 1700's. I visited three cemeteries there; got alot of pictures and stopped by the little historical society. Here's what I found (I will upload the photos later this week to the photos page at my website below; but for now) I'll tell you just a tad. I found MYERS, MAYERS, LEMLEY'S COUGILL'S (COWGILLS) LEATHER'S STEPHENS (town named after these people) ROBERTS MILLER and so many more. I found a Jane MYERS, her home is still standing and dates back the the 1700's. A Leonard MYERS b in the mid 1700's; died very very early 1800's. And if you goto http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/va/frederick/newspapers/news 0001.txt you'll read all from "Bowen's CENTINEL AND GAZETTE -WINCHESTER POLITICAL REPOSITORY (Frederick County, Va.) a (Winchester, Va. newspaper) about this town and old records with the names mentioned such as Christopher, Isaac, Jacob and George MYERS! I'm getting back up there real soon! It was a kick. It's right off "old Route 11" which is the old wagon trail that many pioneers used traveling from PA, through old VA/WV. Facinating. What struck me the most, was the surname MAYERS (with a "s"); made me think about the MAYER connection we mention from time to time and it's relationship with MOYER(S) and MYERS - take out the "a" and what do you have.... it's actually the first time I seen it spelled MAYERS up front (rather then a book) and to see MYERS used along side them was even more exciting. Just thought I'd share that with all of you - I wanted to keep on going over that South Mtn.... straight for TN! Chrystie MYERS BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html

    04/23/2001 04:41:39
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. Marilyn
    3. Bobbye, I don't think your e-mail was offensive. Like you said, religious persecution is why our ancestors came to America in the first place. Some people get so "snooty" when religion is the subject. Personally, I think that's God convicting them! HA! :) Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists Sorry Helen but we do have a lot of this in genealogy. Helps us find our ancestors and understand their movement. Many of them left Europe because of religious persecution. When they came to the Colonies, they still suffered religious persecution. That is why Rhode Island was started, you may recall. If it offends you, I'm sorry. Perhaps when we have questions about religion, personal illnesses and deaths we should go to individual e-mail rather than on the @rootsweb. Apologize to Wallace for me. I did not intend to offend. Bobbye ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== MOYERS Rootsweb List Newsgroup Chrystie MYERS, List Adm. ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

    04/23/2001 11:31:45
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. katie angermeyer
    3. Thanks for that Bobbye, I'll look for those songs on the internet, Google search. Seems to me I read something about the middle of the road marriage custom before. Katie >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists >Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:40:25 EDT > >Katie, > >Mother's song book was published in 1845. I imagine not to many people in >the U.S. were able to read prior to that time. > >As I understand it, marriages in the Primitive church building is a >relatively late event. >All I have been able to find, they were either married in the bride's home, >the bride's brother's home, the middle of the road, at the Justice of >Peace's home, or some other inglorius place. I have not figured out yet >why >anyone would marry in the middle of the road. There must be some >significance to it. > >Tears came into my eyes when the congregation began to sing. I had not >been >in that church since my Grandpa died in 1960. My grandparents met in that >church, married, raised their children and were buried with services in >that >church. The fellow that did the preaching is a friend of ours. He was my >Mother and Dad's pastor, and he spent a lot of time with us during Mother >and >Daddy's illnesses and deaths. > >As you probably know, the titles of the songs are usually the title of the >tune. Probably the ones I like best are David's Lamentation and Wonderous >Cross. It's been a long time since I attended the Primitive Baptist >Church. >So, I can't remember the songs, but I recognize them when I hear them. > >My gr.gr. grandfather gave land for a Primitive Baptist Church building, >and >I am trying to get information about him and it to write an article for a >Cemetery Book. In the 1840s, he was a messenger from his church to a >conference. My grandmother's grandfather was a messenger to the same >conference from a different church. > >Bobbye > > >==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb's WORLDCONNECT contains more than 39.4 million names >and new GEDCOMs are added daily. Search WorldConnect and upload >your own GEDCOM(s) to http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

    04/23/2001 08:28:06
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. Sorry Helen but we do have a lot of this in genealogy. Helps us find our ancestors and understand their movement. Many of them left Europe because of religious persecution. When they came to the Colonies, they still suffered religious persecution. That is why Rhode Island was started, you may recall. If it offends you, I'm sorry. Perhaps when we have questions about religion, personal illnesses and deaths we should go to individual e-mail rather than on the @rootsweb. Apologize to Wallace for me. I did not intend to offend. Bobbye

    04/23/2001 08:27:43
  1. 04/23/2001 08:17:05
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. Katie, I had several URLs on the Primitive Baptist in Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky, and Alabama, but when my computer crashed I lost them. There is one out of Ohio that I can access. What are your URLs on Primitive Baptist and German Baptist? In studying the German Baptist, I may be able to find a clue as to where Jacob came from. I know that some of me ancestors were in Scotland and Ireland, but I don't know if they were just traveling through from Germany to get a boat to the Colonies or why they were there. It may be that the Wilson's originated in Scotland. I know the Akins and Alexanders did and the Wilson's seemed to intermarry and travel with them. Europe to Maryland to the Carolinas, then Georgia and then Alabama, but it appears that the Wilson did not meet up with the Myers until they were in Alabama. The Myers were in Alabama almost a hundred years before the Wilson's (my) arrived. But, all of them were affiliated with The Primitive Baptist Church. Bobbye

    04/23/2001 08:15:58
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. I can not remember the whole thing but it has to do with sharing in marriage..

    04/23/2001 04:48:28
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. HELEN
    3. DON'T MEAN TO BE UGLY BUT HAS THIS TURNED IN TO BE A RELIGIOUS THING? WALLACE AND I DISCUSSED THAT YESTERDAY AND I COULD NOT TELL HIM. BLESSINGS, HELEN.

    04/23/2001 04:19:12
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. katie angermeyer
    3. Bobbye wrote: >Katie, > >You did a good job on the Primitive Baptist. The Elders are ordained >ministers. >The foot washing is practice by all members just like the Lord's Supper; >however, the men wash the men's feet and the women wash the women's feet. >They not only sing a cappella their music has only for notes and has shaped >notes. I have my Mother's songbook and my grandparent's conference minutes >dating back into the mid-1800s. Grandpa always said that Jacob Myers came >out >of the Palatine area because of religious persecution. Of course, he was >just repeating oral history. > >The last time I drove my Granny and Grandpa to church they had a foot >washing. One of my sweetest memories of them, is seeing all those little >old >bent, white-haired people kneeling and washing each other's feet. Humility >and love shone. The church folded when the last of the old people died, >but >in the past couple of years some of the descendants have collected money >and >restored the church. I plan to go tomorrow afternoon to a service by a >visiting Elder. OK, Bobbye, since you grew up in this church, you have to tell me what are your favorite songs/hymns. Also, does your mother's songbook have any that may have been sung around 1813 when my gggg grannie Caty was married? What would a marriage ceremony be like? If this is a bit off topic, shut me up if necessary. Katie PS. Hope your day at your church shone with love. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

    04/22/2001 06:57:10
    1. None
    2. katie angermeyer
    3. Chrystie wrote: >Katie, > >Thanks for the great reading material - printing this stuff out right now. >And good luck on the 10k run! Make sure you return and wow, we were lucky >you found us! > >We needed new material out here. I think it helped jumpstart all of us >again. Wow, the jump start must be mutual then. I learned more about Moyer/Myers in the last few weeks reading your stuff, than you can shake a stick at. Anyway, keep sending the postings. I ran the 10K in 83:34:66 min. (5 minutes less than last year) and was proud to have run the whole way. Three years ago I was huffing and puffing on walk-run. I must have passed 20,000 people on the way. So now I can sit at the computer on my butt and not feel guilty. (go to http://sportsmedbc.com for a 13 week 10K run or walk training program. It works). Katie _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

    04/22/2001 06:24:59
    1. Re: [MOYERS] More on Prim. Baptist, plus German Baptists
    2. Katie, Mother's song book was published in 1845. I imagine not to many people in the U.S. were able to read prior to that time. As I understand it, marriages in the Primitive church building is a relatively late event. All I have been able to find, they were either married in the bride's home, the bride's brother's home, the middle of the road, at the Justice of Peace's home, or some other inglorius place. I have not figured out yet why anyone would marry in the middle of the road. There must be some significance to it. Tears came into my eyes when the congregation began to sing. I had not been in that church since my Grandpa died in 1960. My grandparents met in that church, married, raised their children and were buried with services in that church. The fellow that did the preaching is a friend of ours. He was my Mother and Dad's pastor, and he spent a lot of time with us during Mother and Daddy's illnesses and deaths. As you probably know, the titles of the songs are usually the title of the tune. Probably the ones I like best are David's Lamentation and Wonderous Cross. It's been a long time since I attended the Primitive Baptist Church. So, I can't remember the songs, but I recognize them when I hear them. My gr.gr. grandfather gave land for a Primitive Baptist Church building, and I am trying to get information about him and it to write an article for a Cemetery Book. In the 1840s, he was a messenger from his church to a conference. My grandmother's grandfather was a messenger to the same conference from a different church. Bobbye

    04/22/2001 03:40:25
    1. [MOYERS] Re: Unidentified subject!
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. You know Katie, I just might do that - know I should. Since I lost my husband... well, I lost over 40 pounds at first, without even trying; then I went through the last year of just closing myself in, hence - all the work I've done out here. Now, I'm beginning to want to spread the wings again. And the butt has spread too! I miss biking, hiking.. today I actually took the dog out for a walk and you know what ... it felt great. Thanks Katie. Chrystie MYERS BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html > From: "katie angermeyer" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:24:59 -0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Unidentified subject! > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:25:00 -0600 > > Chrystie wrote: > >> Katie, >> >> Thanks for the great reading material - printing this stuff out right now. >> And good luck on the 10k run! Make sure you return and wow, we were lucky >> you found us! >> >> We needed new material out here. I think it helped jumpstart all of us >> again. > > > > > Wow, the jump start must be mutual then. I learned more about Moyer/Myers > in the last few weeks reading your stuff, than you can shake a stick at. > Anyway, keep sending the postings. > > I ran the 10K in 83:34:66 min. (5 minutes less than last year) and was > proud to have run the whole way. Three years ago I was huffing and puffing > on walk-run. I must have passed 20,000 people on the way. So now I can sit > at the computer on my butt and not feel guilty. (go to > http://sportsmedbc.com for a 13 week 10K run or walk training program. It > works). > > > Katie > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > Post Your Queries Often! > Chrystie MYERS - MOYERS List Adm. > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

    04/22/2001 02:29:15
    1. [MOYERS] RE: Michael MYERS NJ ca1753 and son Peter
    2. Chrystie Myes
    3. American Biographical Notes for New Jersey; page 300 MYERS, MICHAEL, b. at Auville, N. J., Feb. 1, 1753; served in the Revolution and was wounded in the "Battle of Johnstown" dated 1781; Once the formation of Herkimer Co., he was then appointed as a "Judge & Justice", holding this office til the year 1805; he was in assembly dated 1790­1­2­3 and in the State Senate from 1794 - 1801; he was for many years a very active politician and was concerned in extensive purchases of land from the State. Michael MYERS died at Herkimer on Feb. 17, 1814, at the age of 61. His son Peter MYERS was for several years a County Clerk. (Benton's Herkimer Co., N. Y., p. 349.) On the next page 301; MYERS, SAMUEL, d. at Richmond, Va., Aug. 22, 1836, a. 82. NOTE: I know nothing of the above other then what I found. Chrystie MYERS BROOKOVER, COWGER, KRABAL, MOYERS, MYRES, SWECKER --------------------------- # --------------------------- Rootsweb List Administrator - [email protected] Homestead for MYERS GENEALOGY.COM at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrystiem/myersfam.html

    04/22/2001 12:00:53