Suzie, My ggggg was Elizabeth EMERT, dau of Frederick EMERT & Barbara NEIDIG/KNIGHT of Emerts Co., Sevier Co., TN; he migrated down from Berks Co., PA! You should see how old these sites were. Major settlements. You have to drive down the off and beaten path to find some of them but what a worth wild trip! Best in quite a long time. Beautiful rolling country roads with awesome views of mountains and valleys; Amish pushing their horse(s) drawn plows; buggies in the road; small children playing in their black and purple clothing; Mennonite in their white capped hair and light green, blue and purple handmade dresses. Boy, but those mountains views. Now, I know for a fact that our EMERT line spelled it as EMERICH/EMERICK in Berks Co., PA so it had to be. EMMERT EMMOTT was how it was seen in NC; EMERT in TN; I found a Leonard, Philip and ?? EMERICK in Scafferstown, about 6 miles south of MYERSTOWN where Isaac MEIER/MYER founded that area; seen the house built ca1850; he was born in 1835; est. MYERSTOWN 1768. Not head east from here and you're in WOLMSDORD and the MOYER MEYERS I seen and most were all in the same line and there was no doubt they were son of or daughter of because it stated as such. I tried to think of various reasons for the name change... And the one that seemed that made the most sense was that they spoke heavy german; read / wrote it as well and whomever made the stone (now or then) spelled it as they simply assumed it should be spelled. But all the same lines. But I missed Valentine and Philip!! MOYER??? Where were they Suzie? I'm heading back there very soon and now I gotta find them too! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS > From: SusiCP@aol.com > Reply-To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:48:33 EDT > To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOYERS] RE: HURST/HOUST PA > Resent-From: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:48:38 -0600 > > Also I suspect the EMERICK is also my EMRICK kin

Also I suspect the EMERICK is also my EMRICK kin

YESK you were in heart of my MOYER MYERS clan in Wolmsdorf and other areas. So glad you could go. DId by chance you see Phillip MOYER or Valentine MOYER Stones?? pre 1820. BLessings Susi

Just a note to let the HURST MYERS MOYERS and PA to TN groups know that I just got back from a 2 day research tour of Lebanon, but mostly Berks County, PA. I found many HOUST/HURST MEYER MOYER burials as well as roads & businesses named as such. My research was in the MYERSTOWN, CHARMING VILLAGE, STOUCHSBERG, SCHAFFERTOWN, HEINDENBERG, REISTOWN, WOMELSDORF areas of TULPEHOKEN in Berks CO., PA between the Lebanon County line and Reading PA area. I can tell you that there were only 3 basic types of churches I seen and I seen/visited a lot; Mennonite, Amish and Reformed all dating back from 1734 to mid 1700's. Some of the other towns were (so many) SCHAFFERTOWN, 5 miles east of MYERSTOWN; SCHAFFERTOWN had 2 main churches. 1 was very very old with a big very well kept cemetery up behind it on top of a good sized hill where you can see all the surrounding valleys and South Mtn from; this church was St. Lukes Evangelical Luthern; though it was formed in 1730 by the congregation the church now standing was built in 1765 with enlargements and remodeling down in 1884. The surnames I seen in this huge cemetery were HOUST HURST MILLER MEYER MOYER OBE (new on for me), DIFFENBACH WEAVER BOLLINGER CHAMBERS EMERICK (I know they're surname changed to EMERT'S) SIEMONS (SIMMONS) WIEDMEN WHITMAN ALBRIGHT so many; Jonas EMERT b Jan 21, 1802 d 1878; Marian E. EMERICH b 1776 d??; Leonard CHAMBERS 1/17/1767 d 1866 Too many to list. I took a lot of photos and I suggest if anyone is interested in this huge old cemetery where Reformed Settlers were known to come in and settle upon arrival thru Phila. PA early 1700 to mid 1700's write to Berks County, PA Historical Society & the PA Historical Society; a sign suggested as such on the site. You can find them out here on the internet at http://www.googl.com/ where I'm heading shortly myself to search, too. Another very old town just down the road known for very early 1700's settlements was called WOMELSDORF, about 6 miles down on Route 219 from SCHAFFERTOWN; and in between this area, about 3 miles up 501 was REISTOWN where I found a Brethren Church (Amish or Mennonite, prob. Amish as I was surronuded by nothing but) called HEINDENBERG Church of Brethren I found loads of MOYER & MEYER (more then just a few) in the same line; BOLLINGER MILLER WEAVER a lot of ROYER & GETTEL'S whom married into these MEYER MOYER'S. Just to name a few: SAME ROW ALL NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER AND READ AS SUCH: Abraham P. MEYER b 1872 d 1947 & Wife Elizabeth B. b 1879 d 1951 Howard, son of Abraham & Lizzie MEYER b Oct 23, 1902 d Mar 21, 1904 2y Abraham MOYER b Oct 1, 1830 d Oct 2, 1905 74 y 11 m 28d Elizabeth MEYER, wife of Abraham b Jan 8, 1834 d Oct 22, 1903 69y 9 mo 14 days Johns, Chapter 16 Verse 33 Lizzie MOYER daughter of Abraham & Elizabeth MOYER b Nov 21, 1863 d May 31, 1884 20 y 6 mo 10d German Verses on bottom of stone Father John C. MOYER b June 21, 1854 d March 25, 1932 Mother Amanda G. b June 26, 1853 d Feb 26, 1933 Tillie M. MOYER wife of Nathan G. ROYER b Sept 6, 1859 d Apr 2, 1904 41 y 6 mo 20 days. *NOTE the variation of the surname MOYER to MEYER 4 more miles up the road from Schafferstown, you turn left onto Rt 501 N to Rt 219 EAST & again and you're heading towards Womelsdorf just outside of MEYERSTOWN crossing from Lebanon into Berks County, PA and there were 3 very old good churches, 2 w/cemeteries. 1 - The Zion & St. John Reeds Luthern built 1824; their website is http://www.reedschurch.org no cemetery 2 - Talpehoeken Trinty United Church of Christ <--- Great place. I'm sending away for this very old fair sized well maintained cemetery; SIMMONS MEYER MYERS MOYERS buried there along with a long list of many more. This was part of 100 acres deed to this area by Caspar WISTAR of Phila. PA in 1738 for schooling and churches for the founding "reformed" lutherans that settled in this area. It's located on TULPEHOKEN Road in Berks Co., PA. 3 - Evangelical Reformed Church on LONG'S Church Road just to the right off of Rt 219 heading east abt 4 miles outside of MYERSTOWN; huge big church with a cemetery that's very large but not so well taken care of (the older section was a mess) the newer section was fine. Need to research this one. That's all I can tell you and I can not tell you anything else except the I know the my EMERT/EMERICK lines came in from Berks Co., PA as well as a speculation MYERS line; I know that my ggg's children married into CHAMBERS. That my lines were in Sevier/Jefferson/Blount Counties of TN by the 1800's and the same exact surnames that I have listed above either married directly in my direct lines in TN or inter-married; as well, it's known that a few traveled together from the areas I mention in Berks Co., PA. So... That's it, nothing certain. I'm making another trip up there this summer to get inside of libraries. Will keep you posted then. P.S. I've only been home a few hours after driving for days; I'm tried and I might have posted in error or didn't explain right. Sorry, did the best I could. -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie MYERS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moyer, Moyers, Meyers, Myers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/230 Message Board Post: I am trying to find their parents, brothers and sisters, and all of their children & info about them. Here is the info I know... They arrived in Speedwell, Clairborne County, TN. between 1803 & 1812. They are suppose to have been born in 1760 for him & 1758 for her. It is believed that her maiden name was Robertson, but will not discount Hunter or Robinson. The both died and were buried in Clairborne County in 1834 & 1835. Their children are believed to be: Rachael(1786-?) m. Nicholas Sharp Henry(1788-1873) m. Catherine Cupp Abraham(3/13/1789-1866) who appears to have stayed single Ava(1790-?) who married & moved to KY. Elizabeth "Betsy"(3/16/1793-1862) m. Joseph Hunter (have most of this info Philip(1796-1879) m. Chloe Robertson (have most of this info) John(1798) m. Lou Ann Ausmus William Harvey(1820-1889) m. Harriet Moyer(who was Philip's daughter) & Louisa Yoakum There is a problem with William Harvey unless his date of birth was earlier as Elizabeth would have been 62 in 1820. If not their son - then whose? Could he have been a grandson of Michael & Elizabeth Moyer? It is believed they were in Frederick County,MD. Also good chance of Rockingham and Shenendoah County, VA. Also possible they were in PA. before MD unless one or both of their parents arrived in Baltimore. Old stories have both of them coming from Germany or their parents from Germany. Another old story says Michael & brother Jim arrived together but James went to Morristown area, but maybe Jefferson County, TN. Found James Jr. there in 1830 Census but no James Sr. Anyone have any info on Sr. 283 157 Moyers James Jr 2 males under 5, 1 male 20-30, 1 female under 5, 2 female 20-30, Total 6 Even tho the spelling on tombstone is Moyer, sons &or grandsons appear to have taken name Moyers. Even possible spelling was Meyers. One other tidbit that I do know. The last name was pronounced as "Mars". My Dad was born in 1885 and sisters in 1905 nd 1912 and all the older ones called the last name Mars no matter what the spelling.

Chyrstie, My great grandfather had two sisters that were called Clary and Sary.. Their names were Clara and Sarah. Just a thought, you might look for Clary under Clara, since you've got a Sarah. I have several lines on both sides of my family with those two names.. Guess they were REALLY popular back then. ha Good luck... Cindy in OKC

Below is Suzannah MOYERS, dau of James David MOYERS and Mary Polly BLACKBURN; sister to Dr. Christopher MOYERS and James Jr. MOYERS. Now I have Jefferson Co., TN court indenture records showing that Susan's brothers (above) indentured several if not more children into their families; and I'm betting my James (below) was one of them. Now.. My question to the MOYERS out here is this... 1 - How would one beg the courts to tell me who the mother was OR at best, the children's names, after all of these years? 2 - Who was Clary and Sara Elizabeth? I believe Sarah Elizabeth was James' sister but unsure of Clary. 3 - What happened to these 2 girls "Clary and Sarah E."? Did they marry and if so to whom? Did they remove out of TN or remain in Jefferson CO., TN? 4 - What happened to Susan/Suzannah MOYERS? I've searched in California and have no other resources to write to, as I was told she retired in the Fresno area; but this can not be. NOTE: I did find a Susan MYERS married to an english man (notes not in front of me) in the Greene Co., TN area I think 1818. But I'm still not entirely sure what year Enoch WILLOUGHBY removed from Suzannah's life. Thanks all, Chrystie CENSUS YEAR:1850 STATE:TN COUNTY: Jefferson DISTRICT: 13TH MICROFILM#: M432-885 ENUMERATOR:James Baker ENUM DATE: 30th day of November, 1850 ============================================================================ ============================================================================ ======== Susan w/children and slaves next door. 446B 21 1675 1730 Moyers Susan 42 F . . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 22 1675 1730 Moyers Clary 19 F . . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 23 1675 1730 Moyers Sarah E. 14 F . . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 24 1675 1730 Moyers James 11 M . . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 25 1675 1730 N.S. Rhoda 33 F B . . Tenn . . . . . *Above slave lived in household - below next door as farmers. 446B 26 1676 1731 Moyers Franklin 17 M B Farmer . Tenn . . . . . 446B 27 1676 1731 Moyers Andrew 14 M B . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 28 1676 1731 Moyers Henry 12 M B . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 29 1676 1731 Moyers Alfred 9 M B . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 30 1676 1731 Moyers Nicholas 7 M B . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 31 1676 1731 Moyers Laura 5 F B . . Tenn . . . . . 446B 32 1676 1731 Moyers John 3 M B . . Tenn . . . . . SUZANNAH5 MOYERS (JAMES DAVID SR.4, CHRISTOPHER JR.3, CHRISTOPHER "SENIOR"2, UNK1) was born 1796 in Dandridge, Jefferson Co., now Hamlin Co., Tn, and died in Sumner Co., Sevier Co., Polk Co., Tennessee. She married (1) ENOCH "PASTOR ENOCK WILABY" WILLOUGHBY Bet. April 13 - May 06, 1813 in Dandridge, Jefferson Co., TN, son of ELIJAH WILLOUGHBY and SUSANNAH LEACHMAN. She married (2) THOMAS ANDREW "AARON" JR. MYERS Aft. 1827 in prob. TN or KY, son of THOMAS MYERS and HANNAH UNKNOWN. More About SUZANNAH MOYERS: Fact 1: Susannah MOYERS, who's family changed their spelling to MYERS to avoid sounding GERMAN and more IRISH, grandfather fought in the American Revoluntionary War; receiving thousands of acres of land in TN for his services Fact 2: Might have lived near the RITCHIE / RITCHEY / VARNER and HUGHES families in the Snoddy Creek, Hamilton County and Long Creek in Jefferson Co., what to day is Hamblin Co., TN Fact 3: 1788, Her grandfather came to Jefferson Co., TN and is buried in a cow pasture across the road from what was hishome. Noted info from the DAR chapter which gave family permission to mark his grave abt 1994 (it's still in the works). Notes (Facts Page): Confused... how could Enoch be James Napoleon's father, James was born aft Enoch death??? Many questions here. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS

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If anyone on the MOYERS board would like to read the treaded conversation from this person below - goto http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1.2.1 I'm quitting at this point... ;) while I'm "way" ahead. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS > From: carmela@wolfenet.com > Reply-To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: 9 Jun 2002 22:36:17 -0600 > To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOYERS] Re: Moyers, Rockingham County, confusion > Resent-From: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:35:49 -0600 > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1.2.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I am "well familiar" with slave schedules, death schedules, census schedules > at the National Archives. I am now just getting around to "published works" as > I can't get to the physical areas of my research, yet. These published works > are invaluable. They "tell me" there are originals, from which the works are > based. They tell me the kind of information that might be available. In the > meantime they provide dates, hopefully faithfully recorded. They cover > information not at the National Archives. > > The Archives are great, but one shouldn't have an impression all information > is there. It isn't. Also, where I go, the staff is based on volunteers, who > seem at times, whimsical in contributions. Also, there seems to be a local > budget at work, e.g. a small public bulletin board, "Thank you, your > contributions have allowed us to purchase the Wisconsin 1870 census." That > kind of thing. The microfilm viewers are between decrepit, to "pretty okay." > The public library has a much better photocopier (attached to viewer). So > while I am fortunate, it's not everything it seems from the outside. For > example, our Archives may lack for example, an 1860 Wisconsin Index book. This > has to do with copyright laws I'm told. To see an index, one goes to the > public library, which has the index, or to ancestry, which may provide a page > number. Further though, what NARA shows on the national site, doesn't mean > the records are available regionally. > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX (SSDI) UPDATED; > Just Goto: http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > -- MOYERS Rootsweb Newsgroup -- > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Wow, and to think.. In your own words, these people do it volunatarily. Just like a lot of people out here, as well, that spend a lot of their spare time putting information out here for people like you - I dunno. All I'm going to say at this point is "good luck in your search" and the National Archives is a heck of a lot better of a place to research then "online"! And I might add, I've seen the inside of many a library myself. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS > From: carmela@wolfenet.com > Reply-To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: 9 Jun 2002 22:36:17 -0600 > To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOYERS] Re: Moyers, Rockingham County, confusion > Resent-From: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:35:49 -0600 > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1.2.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I am "well familiar" with slave schedules, death schedules, census schedules > at the National Archives. I am now just getting around to "published works" as > I can't get to the physical areas of my research, yet. These published works > are invaluable. They "tell me" there are originals, from which the works are > based. They tell me the kind of information that might be available. In the > meantime they provide dates, hopefully faithfully recorded. They cover > information not at the National Archives. > > The Archives are great, but one shouldn't have an impression all information > is there. It isn't. Also, where I go, the staff is based on volunteers, who > seem at times, whimsical in contributions. Also, there seems to be a local > budget at work, e.g. a small public bulletin board, "Thank you, your > contributions have allowed us to purchase the Wisconsin 1870 census." That > kind of thing. The microfilm viewers are between decrepit, to "pretty okay." > The public library has a much better photocopier (attached to viewer). So > while I am fortunate, it's not everything it seems from the outside. For > example, our Archives may lack for example, an 1860 Wisconsin Index book. This > has to do with copyright laws I'm told. To see an index, one goes to the > public library, which has the index, or to ancestry, which may provide a page > number. Further though, what NARA shows on the national site, doesn't mean > the records are available regionally. > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX (SSDI) UPDATED; > Just Goto: http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > -- MOYERS Rootsweb Newsgroup -- > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

It was regarding the a posting 2 back prior to your own below. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LINCOLN MOYERS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229 Message Board Post: I am trying to figure out who Margaret Moyers is, in relationship to the Lincoln family I find her with in 1860. I believe the Nancy below is Nancy Driver. I do not show "yet" a Margaret Lincoln who married a Moyers, and I sure do not show Margaret as the mother of John Lincoln. Maybe Margaret is John's aunt. Maybe Margaret married two or three times. Moyers, help, please? 1860 2926/2868, District No. 1, Rockingham, page 745 Margaret Moyers, 60, Farming $13,460 $2,000, VA; John Lincoln 36, Farming personal $14,000; Nancy 34; Leanora shoemaker 19 domestic. William Gunn? 16 farm laborer. From Slave Schedule to John Lincoln 1 female age 25, p227 1870, , John Lincoln 46, Farmer 15000, 3000; Nancy 44 P224 #428 August 1870 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS > From: Cirkusfan@aol.com > Reply-To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 23:28:21 EDT > To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOYERS] Re: Moyers, Rockingham County, confusion > Resent-From: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 21:28:17 -0600 > > How are the Lincolns and Moyers' connected. I think I missed something here. > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX (SSDI) UPDATED; > Just Goto: http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > -- MOYERS Rootsweb Newsgroup -- > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

How are the Lincolns and Moyers' connected. I think I missed something here.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I am "well familiar" with slave schedules, death schedules, census schedules at the National Archives. I am now just getting around to "published works" as I can't get to the physical areas of my research, yet. These published works are invaluable. They "tell me" there are originals, from which the works are based. They tell me the kind of information that might be available. In the meantime they provide dates, hopefully faithfully recorded. They cover information not at the National Archives. The Archives are great, but one shouldn't have an impression all information is there. It isn't. Also, where I go, the staff is based on volunteers, who seem at times, whimsical in contributions. Also, there seems to be a local budget at work, e.g. a small public bulletin board, "Thank you, your contributions have allowed us to purchase the Wisconsin 1870 census." That kind of thing. The microfilm viewers are between decrepit, to "pretty okay." The public library has a much better photocopier (attached to viewer). So while I am fortunate, it's not everything it seems from the outside. For example, our Archives may lack for example, an 1860 Wisconsin Index book. This has to do with copyright laws I'm told. To see an index, one goes to the public library, which has the index, or to ancestry, which may provide a page number. Further though, what NARA shows on the national site, doesn't mean the records are available regionally.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Word of advise... to avoid "Confusion" as you state in the subject line, try keeping an open mind, and to avoid future confusions, since you live so close to the National Archives, a site that most genealogist / family researchers would love to be able to state, get off the internet and head for that wonderfully huge holding tank filled with loads of information that you probably will never have enough time in your lifetime to ever get to see all of, and research what you're looking for. And good luck to you as I was only trying to help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MOYERS LINCOLN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Start here: http://www.archives.gov/research_room/getting_started/getting_started.html http://www.archives.gov/digital_classroom/lessons/amistad_case/amistad_case.html and http://www.archives.gov/publications/microfilm_catalogs/census_schedules/1790_1890_federal_population_census_part03.html and look to the left bottom of sidebar for SEARCH and see what all will come up; also check out the Roosevelt Papers, the Five Founding Fathers Projects, National Archives and Records Administration Publications Program, Press Release December 29, 2000 National Archives to Display Pay Stubs of Slaves Used to Build U.S. Capitol and White House Washington, DC, and on and on... you'll be their all night if you use the search area.

1880 Sevier Co TN Census MYRES Bartley A 20, Orleina M. 19 (384) <-- Son of John Alexander MOYERS & Nancy GANN My ggg's James Napoleon MYERS & Margaertt Caroline "Maggie" LINDSEY: James N. 41', Margarett C. 33, Pleasent A 19, David m. 18, Andrew 1. 15, Maria R. 10, Sarah E. 7,  George M. 5, Eliza J. 4, Mary A 2 (374) This is John Alexander MOYERS & Nancy GANN: John A 56, Nancy 54, Margarett L. 25, Pleasant A 20, John J. 17, Samuel H. 16, Oliver P. 14, Victoria  12, Clabom T. 10 (384) Peter A 20* (380) <--- I have no idea who this is. Any ideas? LINDSEY & MOYERS above were originally sitting inside of Jefferson Co., Tennessee, later Sevier County, TN. Does anyone know who this Peter is? -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS

Maybe it was GANN not GUNN and I honestly have never seen LINCOLN nor DRIVER connections to MOYERS. Also, don't rule out the usage of the surname MOYERS. I'm assuming that the people below are in the same household with different surnames? I'm a tad confused here. Help me out. Anyone out here familiar with LINCOLN or DRIVER connections to MOYERS from old VA?? Have you peeled over the census for MARS MARR(S) MOIR(S) MAYER(S) MEYER(S) MIER(S) MOYHER(S) as enumerators were extremely human, making errors on the spelling. Some of their handwriting makes my doctor's look "not so bad". Another note on Rockingham... Have you checked county changes. Maybe the records are in a surrounding state. Maybe she was married prior and sad to say, maybe, as a woman her identity is lost forever as many women remained as their husband's surname in the records. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Chrystie, ROOTSWEB LIST ADMIN. FOR THE BROOKOVER COWGER KRABAL MAJOR MAYERS MOYERS MYRES GROUPS > From: carmela@wolfenet.com > Reply-To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: 9 Jun 2002 13:22:41 -0600 > To: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOYERS] Moyers, Rockingham County, confusion > Resent-From: MOYERS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:38:20 -0600 > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: LINCOLN MOYERS > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229 > > Message Board Post: > > I am trying to figure out who Margaret Moyers is, in relationship to the > Lincoln family I find her with in 1860. I believe the Nancy below is Nancy > Driver. I do not show "yet" a Margaret Lincoln who married a Moyers, and I > sure do not show Margaret as the mother of John Lincoln. Maybe Margaret is > John's aunt. Maybe Margaret married two or three times. Moyers, help, > please? > > 1860 2926/2868, District No. 1, Rockingham, page 745 > Margaret Moyers, 60, Farming $13,460 $2,000, VA; John Lincoln 36, Farming > personal $14,000; Nancy 34; Leanora shoemaker 19 domestic. William Gunn? 16 > farm laborer. From Slave Schedule to John Lincoln 1 female age 25, p227 > 1870, , John Lincoln 46, Farmer 15000, 3000; Nancy 44 P224 #428 August 1870 > > > > ==== MOYERS Mailing List ==== > MOYERS-admin@rootsweb.com > Rootsweb.com Email Newsgroups > -- THE MOYERS NEWSGROUP -- > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1.1 Message Board Post: No. I have not heard of these new records. I live in the same city with a National Archives. If they have new records, they have not announced it. What should I bug them with? btw, I also realize Moyers might be Myers in old records, but I know I read Moyers, when I extracted the census. As for slaves, it is near-national knowledge that the President's family (extended) had slaves. Some of the Lincolns owned very few. Only one I can find, had many but even they did not own the most in the county: I am new on this search. Thank you for help. What should I ask for at the archives? What are these new records called?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MOYERS DRIVER LINCOLN - Rockingham Co, VA Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I would love to help you as the administrator for the MOYERS Rootsweb Email List Newsgroup (not the boards) but most of my knowledge is WVA and Tennessee. I do know that a particular line of MOYERS were slave owners but this was in Jefferson and Greene County Tennessee dating from late 1700's to 1840. Your posting went out on the MOYERS newsgroup and I sincerely wish you luck here. Are you familiary with the Slave records now available fairly cheaply at the Nat'l Archives now? I hear it's very extensive and alot of work as went into preservation.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LINCOLN MOYERS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/HU2.2ACIB/229 Message Board Post: I am trying to figure out who Margaret Moyers is, in relationship to the Lincoln family I find her with in 1860. I believe the Nancy below is Nancy Driver. I do not show "yet" a Margaret Lincoln who married a Moyers, and I sure do not show Margaret as the mother of John Lincoln. Maybe Margaret is John's aunt. Maybe Margaret married two or three times. Moyers, help, please? 1860 2926/2868, District No. 1, Rockingham, page 745 Margaret Moyers, 60, Farming $13,460 $2,000, VA; John Lincoln 36, Farming personal $14,000; Nancy 34; Leanora shoemaker 19 domestic. William Gunn? 16 farm laborer. From Slave Schedule to John Lincoln 1 female age 25, p227 1870, , John Lincoln 46, Farmer 15000, 3000; Nancy 44 P224 #428 August 1870