This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kNB.2ACI/129.173.1158.1.1 Message Board Post: You are probably on the right track. My name is Richard Clopton. I had 9 brothers and sisters. There were 5 boys and 5 girls in my family. Evidently the Helen you mentioned was my mother's sister Helen Shaffer. The Phyllis you mentioned was probably my oldest brother;s wife the former Phyllis Dodd. If you want to email me I have been researching for about 4 years and do have a wealth of information I would be glad to share with you. By the way, in my research I visited Clopton, Virginia in the year 2001. My wife was ailing at that time so we did not get to spend as much time in that area as we would have liked. Richard W. Clopton