Barb, Done did. Someone has pointed out that if you are posing a genealogical question, to put the "who, what, when" stuff in the subject line. Which is why I try to keep names out of my titles when I'm "editorializing" or pontificating on something, unless there's something concerning someone's particular research. Otherwise, if you don't want to read my hollering, <BG>, you can delete it and not worry about it. Vonda ListMom