Hey, Got this from Margie Campbell, who picked it up from another MO list. Check it out! http://www.sos.state.mo.us/archives/resources/birthdeath/ Seems to be a database of birth and death records prior to 1910, when MO passed laws concerning our birth and death certificates. Guess where I'm gonna be.... V ListMom for MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/ http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~vondak/

Great idea Vonda, hope everyone calls in. My WRV families are, on my husbands side, John J. Stephens who was the son of James D. Stephens, b. KY and Sarah, b. MO. I found James, Sarah and one year old John J. in Morgan Co., MO in the 1850 census and in 1860 they were in Miller Co., MO. John J. was then 10, his brother Joseph was 5, his brother James was 3 and their sister, Rebecca was 1year old. In 1870 I find John J., his wife Ruthe Ann Coggburn, (sister of Andrew Coggburn) and their one year old son Samuel G. living with her widowed mother, Jane R. Coggburn. John's brother, Joseph, was living with Ruthe Ann's brother, John Coggburn, and I have had no luck yet finding out what happened to the rest of the family. Of course, the Civil War had happened so anything was possible. John J. and Ruthe Ann Stephens moved to Washington Co., AR sometime before 1895. They had ten children. They are buried in the Cox cemetery outside of Clyde, AR., John died in 1910 and Ruthe Ann in 1922. On my side of the family was Calvin Ragsdale who came to the Lawrence Co., AR area about 1835. He married Jane Russell (some have her name as Southern) in 1847. I have reason to believe they lived in the Monmouth Springs area, which was still part of Lawrence Co. until 1855. They later moved to the Spring River area. Their children were: William and Robert Willis (twins), b 1852/3, Benjamin Franklin, b. 1855, Silas R., b. 1858, Mary Ann (Dolly), b. 1860 and George Washington, b 1862. I have Calvins marriage record and record of him buying property in 1856. Jane and the children are in the 1870 census for Lawrence Co. but Calvin wasn't with them though he supposedly died in Lawrence Co. in 1871. I haven't been able to find him or his family in any other census' in any of the surrounding area. Anyone out there connected to any of these families? Pat Stevens Oregon

Vonda, It has been such a joy to read your stories and activities that you post to the lists. This essay today left me speechless (and that's something!). You are one special lady. How perfectly you express the feelings we have, or should have for our work. It is work, not just a hobby, and I hope it is done with love. May I have your permission to read it at our next local society meeting (Ottawa County Genealogical Society, Miami, OK) on the 19th of this month? Most sincerely, Betty J. Pulley. (My husband was Raymond F. Pulley, from Forsyth.)

Hey, howdy! Well...it has been a really, really busy summer around this neck of the woods. For newbies, and there are quite a few of you, my name is Vonda, I'm the former listmom for Taney Co.'s list, and the current listmom (looking to retire...anyone interested?) for MO-AR-WRV. I live just east of Branson, in Taney county, MO, about a mile by "holler" from the White River (Lake Taneycomo). My husband and I are both at least 6-generation White River Valley natives, although we were both born accidentally in the metro-Kansas City area <BG>. The WRV website (1st link below my signature) is currently undergoing renovation, to emerge (hopefully soon) as the White River Valley Historical Society website. All current files will still be available, but you'll have to change your bookmarks, for I'm re-doing all those confusing directories. One change will be the focus; it will have predominantly Taney county information, since we've revamped the society and other counties seem to have caretakers extraordinaire. I've been adding links, fixing broken links, and so on. Right now, it's only available on my computer, and I don't know for sure when I'll get it up. Time is still one of my worst enemies/best friends. People have been asking me for a long time what it is I do, and I've never had a ready answer. I do a lot of things in regards to history and genealogy. This summer, not in any kind of order, I've: 1) hosted a family reunion 2) transcribed a cemetery or two 3) attended board and other meetings of the society 4) gotten information via phone in regards to historical structures and "lost" cems within the county 5) went gallivantin' by myself, with Ingrid and Greg, and with Ingrid and the kids. Poor "Mountain Chivy" has had the miles put on him, to be sure. 6) went cabin hunting, finding a wonderful cabin on a friend's "back 40" that sits on a beautiful piece of creek 7) worked on aspects of the "Outlaw Roundup" and "White River Valley Homecoming", events held by the White River Valley Historical Society. This year, due to flooding, the 2 will be combined into 1 event, Homecoming, held 12 October, probably in Rockaway Beach (more later when I know more). The Bald Knobbers play, "The League: Taney County Justice" will be held on that date, as well as a pow-wow hosted by White River Band Cherokee. 8) attended a city meeting in regards to the proposed convention center on Branson's lakefront. It seems that my friends have been effective in convincing the "city leaders" that a convention center doesn't belong downtown--yeeeehaw! We won! It appears that several structures are going to be saved, the White River Hotel (originally the Hotel Malone) included. There will be some new attractions, etc., but Branson's original downtown should retain much of its current "atmosphere". No, they haven't asked us for any help, and they probably won't--we've been quite vocal in the local papers and at the city meetings. 9) hand-sewed a baby's dress with Ingrid for a girl due in early September. The dress is patterned after baby clothes made in the late 1800s, out of beautiful green calico. We hope to get a bonnet for mother and daughter done as well. The baby will likely make her acting debut in the pre-show skit, "He Married 'Em All", 12 Oct. 10) worked on salvage operations in a wonderful old house, due for demolition. We "rescued" newspapers, letters, pictures, and more. 11) attended a work session of the new Cemetery Committee, in which we began mapping cemeteries in Taney county. Roughly half are plotted on a big wall map; we are up to 128 "known" cemeteries within county lines. The interesting thing to me at this point is how close cems are in some parts of the county, and the "empty" areas in other parts. Tells me that there are even more "unknown" burials out there, for this is rough country, and there are too many cems that are likely "lost", one way or another. 12) worked a rummage sale at the Old Jail, to raise funds for the production of the play. During the sale, a map book of the upper (MO) White River, done by the Corps of Engineers in 1944 (pre-Bull Shoals and Table Rock Dams), was donated to the society. That's exciting! 13) went to a potluck and musical gathering at Boston Community Center, up in the NW corner of Taney County. My great-grandmother attended church in the building; my grandmother and a couple of aunts went to school there, so lots of "memories" in that area. And that's for starters. I get phone calls out of the blue, about cemeteries, old books, you name it. I get to meet some fascinating people. And I get to share this with all my friends. Last week, while reading my morning paper and drinking coffee, some article or comic strip listed the various kinds of activism--religious, political, social, you name it...and my mind continued the train of thought to "historical". It was one of those "light bulb" moments, and I realized that historical activism is what we do...we are historical activists. Later, when writing the article, I went back to the paper to try to find just what it was that sparked me, and you guessed it...I couldn't. I'm almost ready for work, and so I've got to go finish. But that's letting you know what's going on! Vonda Wilson Sheets ListMom for MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/ http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~vondak/

Wow! I hope this is going to be published for others to read too!!! You captured so many of the same feelings I have ................... I just have not known how to say it!!! Jerry Johnston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vonda Sheets" <vonda@peoplepc.com> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: [MOTANEY] historical activism It’s not enough to do my own direct ancestry for genealogical purposes. For one thing, there aren’t answers for some things that happened in my or my husband’s family that other families in the area may have answers to. For another, when I researched the descendants of every sibling of our grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on, they married into nearly every other family around, and we’re related to almost everyone (some of our collateral lines even intermarried). So that means I have to have a little bit of knowledge of these other families as well. Were they Scottish? Cherokee? English? German? Is the family story true or false, and who else witnessed the event? How come someone I went to school with turned out to be the daughter of a niece of my great-grandmother, and no one told me? How did Greg spend part of his childhood in a rural town in Wyandotte Co. KS, only two blocks from my great-grandmother, and none of us ever met until I moved back to Taney County 30 years later? I needed to learn about all these families, and in the process of discovery, found out that it was tradition in a great number of Taney County families to move to some part of the Kansas City area to make a living, and move back when it was time to come home. Someone has to care about the connections to other people. It’s not enough to know that my grandmother’s land has been in the family for 50 years. I want to know about all the places that she and Grandpa, their parents, their grandparents, and those even further back—where they lived, did they own or rent it, why this hill for a house and not that one? Who lived around them? How many rooms did the house have? Why was this house so different? Why does one church has a cemetery by it and another doesn’t? Why this school has 2 front doors? So I need to visit every cabin, house, business building, school, church, any structure that causes me travel back in time, to find out more about the places our people lived. Someone has to care about the buildings our people lived in, worked in, were educated in, and worshipped in. It’s not enough to discover that Mom’s grandparents owned a cannery. What did they can? Why did the business fail, or who bought it from them? Who worked for them? Did they live nearby? Why did they live in such an isolated area, or is it more isolated now than it was? What businesses were related or benefited? Now I need to find out about the history of the canning industry in the upper White River Valley, who owned them, who ran stores and bought the canned goods, the railroad industry that shipped them, the logging industry that built the railroads, the farms the timber came from…and the people who lived during those times. Someone has to care about the way people made a living. It’s not enough to reclaim, after years of neglect and near-destruction, a cemetery in which my great-great-great grandmother is buried. The cemetery had been hidden under downed trees and impossible brush for 40 years, surrounded by a subdivision for nearly 20 years, and not one person in that subdivision cared enough to clean it up or bring it to anyone’s attention. It took a person who had only lived in the area 2 months to call a meeting to shame us into doing something about it; now my dad spends much of the first Saturday of each month maintaining it. I can claim some ignorance, for I didn’t know of the cemetery’s existence until a year or so before it was cleaned up. Now, because I might find a burial of the family’s that I don’t know about, I have to do something about every cemetery in the county—how many are cared for or not, how many are active, what can be done to give each one a little bit of maintenance, get them mapped out and acknowledged, put signs on them. I want to research every unmarked grave, to find who might be buried there. Others have been on similar quests, and we are joining together, because it is a shame that these sacred places are not cared for. Someone has to care about the cemeteries. It’s not enough to talk to one older person who knew “so-and-so”, a relative of mine or Greg’s, and can tell me stories about the relative. I want to hear that older person’s story, for in it, I might find clues about someone else’s life, the culture, why “we didn’t speak of being Cherokee”, what they did for fun, who could play the best fiddle, how they courted. I have to talk to every older person I can, because there might be that one little clue, one little missing piece of the puzzle that makes a part of our family history suddenly make sense. I want to video them, recording the interviews for other people, in case someone else hears something which suddenly makes sense for them—for they, too, may come up with an answer to a question of their own, and in doing so, answer yet another question for me. Some of these older people will never write their memories down, so their history must be oral by necessity. Someone has to care about the oral history of our people. It’s not enough to collect old pictures, documents, family Bibles, military records, newspaper articles, and other paper records of just our family. One local author has published several books on her various family lines, and in one, there’s a picture of my great-grandmother’s sister, who died young, at her husband’s family reunion over 70 years ago. My grandmother’s family home burned in the early 1920s, sending family records up in smoke—but miraculously, collateral lines have pictures and other papers that we wouldn’t have access to, otherwise. A friend sent me a copy of her ancestor’s Civil War military records and pension application, in the hopes it will help me find a clue on my own family. I have pictures of people in my husband’s family, but only know a few of the faces well enough to identify them; luckily, his grandmother either wrote names down, or else his grandfather knows these people from either having met them or being told who they were. I know of empty buildings by the dozens, in which some paperwork of some kind might answer a question from a descendant now many miles away; and these papers lie in neglect, with mold and dust decomposing a past that is important. Someone has to care about the paper trail lying hidden in the attics, basements, and closets of abandoned homes, forgotten by descendants. It’s not enough to know that a handful of people have a collection of their own, but hoard it to themselves without allowing access to others who have a right to see it. We know these collections are being cared for now, but we don’t know if there are provisions in a will for these collections. We know some collections are extremely valuable in terms of history, but the owner wants unreasonable compensation in the name of greed. We know that some people simply want to control what they have, because it denies pleasure and satisfaction to everyone else. We also know that some descendants couldn’t care less or are ashamed of the clutter of a collector’s home, and have destroyed many items as soon as they could, items that would be emotionally or sentimentally valuable to someone else. Someone has to care about the hidden collections of artifacts, to ensure their survival, in spite of the negative emotions that might surround them. It’s not enough to drive down a single-lane dirt road to a homestead, cemetery, or other hidden treasure, and walk in the midst of echoes. These echoes are the voices, the sounds, the lives of those who have been gone for much longer than we’ve been alive. A handful of us, crowded into a four-wheel drive, spend time relishing the paths our people—related or not—traveled, marveling at the natural beauty surrounding us. We go into a trance, listening, feeling, knowing, and exploring, communicating in a manner that sits gently on our souls and eases the pressures of the mind. We try to share this feeling with others, writing and talking about this wonderful place tucked back on someone’s pasture or woods, but it’s not something we can speak lightly of. It is life in a way we will never know, for to intrude for more than a short visit would cause it to disappear, and to lose it would hurt us more than we can imagine. Someone has to care about the emotions, the life, the culture that made our people come here and stay, even if you are the first generation to live here. It’s not enough to do your genealogy, be a member of a historical society, participate in or attend a pageant, visit a museum, read a book, or simply say, “I like history.” If you truly like history, you have to live it, breathe it, let it deep into your bones, so that you can understand who you are, why you are here, and the people who made it possible. You have to protect the land, the buildings, the places, the documents…you are the guardian, the researcher, the worker, the force that sweeps in and envelops these things with your care. You can’t say “I can’t find the time,” for it simply means you aren’t going to make the time. You can’t say, “I can’t get involved,” for without your involvement, the history’s going to disappear. You can’t think, “But I’m not from this place I’m living at now,” for if you help out with the area you are living in, maybe someone else will help out in the area you are from in your place. One hour per week spent cutting weeds around tombstones will help bring that cemetery out of the brush, will make someone stop and see what you’re doing and maybe help out; will bring you immeasurable satisfaction that you are doing something to preserve your history, which in turn will preserve your ancestors’ and your descendants’ history. Everyone has a desire to make some kind of mark on the world, to leave some trace of ourselves in the memory of our descendants, to make sure that we are not forgotten. By wiping out our own or someone else’s history, either through neglect or destruction, we are ensuring that our own lives won’t leave a lasting trail for someone else to follow. By our behavior now, it will appear to future generations that we didn’t care about our history, and they are likely to follow by our example, in our footsteps…whether for the good or the bad. If we do not want to simply disappear from our world, we’d better ensure that our people’s world sticks around as well…leave some kind of trail. Forgetting to do that is likely to ensure that we ourselves will be forgotten. Historical activism—actively protecting and ensuring our collective history lives on—has so many different aspects, anyone can be involved and yet not have to be everywhere at once. Everyone has some specialty which can contribute to preserving the past, and it needn't be either expensive or time-consuming. Everyone needs to ensure the mark they make on the world is a permanent, respectful one, by protecting the marks our ancestors made on the world—it is an immortality that no one can deny. Someone has to care about the connections to other people. Someone has to care about the buildings our people lived in, worked in, were educated in, and worshipped in. Someone has to care about the way people made a living. Someone has to care about the cemeteries. Someone has to care about the oral history of our people. Someone has to care about the paper trail lying hidden in the attics, basements, and closets of abandoned homes, forgotten by descendants. Someone has to care about the hidden collections of artifacts, to ensure their survival, in spite of the negative emotions that might surround them. Someone has to care about the emotions, the life, the culture that made our people come here and stay, even if you are the first generation to do so. Do something to preserve your history, which in turn will preserve your ancestors’ and your descendants’ history. ListMom for MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/ http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~vondak/ ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== "Determine the things that can and shall be done, and then we shall find the way."--Abraham Lincoln ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Another beautiful and motivating sermon, essay, whatever you want to call it. Thanks once again, Vonda. A great send off for my next three day adventure up to Salt Lake. I'll spend a good lot of it at the Family History Library, but will also be chasing down some long forgotten people at the Salt Lake Cemetery and the place where my shoemaker great great grandfather had his shop back in the 1860s. Isn't it great to be married to a wife who wants a trip like this for her birthday celebration?! Mike St. Clair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vonda Sheets" <vonda@peoplepc.com> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:25 AM Subject: [MOTANEY] historical activism > It’s not enough .....

It’s not enough to do my own direct ancestry for genealogical purposes. For one thing, there aren’t answers for some things that happened in my or my husband’s family that other families in the area may have answers to. For another, when I researched the descendants of every sibling of our grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on, they married into nearly every other family around, and we’re related to almost everyone (some of our collateral lines even intermarried). So that means I have to have a little bit of knowledge of these other families as well. Were they Scottish? Cherokee? English? German? Is the family story true or false, and who else witnessed the event? How come someone I went to school with turned out to be the daughter of a niece of my great-grandmother, and no one told me? How did Greg spend part of his childhood in a rural town in Wyandotte Co. KS, only two blocks from my great-grandmother, and none of us ever met until I moved back to Taney County 30 years later? I needed to learn about all these families, and in the process of discovery, found out that it was tradition in a great number of Taney County families to move to some part of the Kansas City area to make a living, and move back when it was time to come home. Someone has to care about the connections to other people. It’s not enough to know that my grandmother’s land has been in the family for 50 years. I want to know about all the places that she and Grandpa, their parents, their grandparents, and those even further back—where they lived, did they own or rent it, why this hill for a house and not that one? Who lived around them? How many rooms did the house have? Why was this house so different? Why does one church has a cemetery by it and another doesn’t? Why this school has 2 front doors? So I need to visit every cabin, house, business building, school, church, any structure that causes me travel back in time, to find out more about the places our people lived. Someone has to care about the buildings our people lived in, worked in, were educated in, and worshipped in. It’s not enough to discover that Mom’s grandparents owned a cannery. What did they can? Why did the business fail, or who bought it from them? Who worked for them? Did they live nearby? Why did they live in such an isolated area, or is it more isolated now than it was? What businesses were related or benefited? Now I need to find out about the history of the canning industry in the upper White River Valley, who owned them, who ran stores and bought the canned goods, the railroad industry that shipped them, the logging industry that built the railroads, the farms the timber came from…and the people who lived during those times. Someone has to care about the way people made a living. It’s not enough to reclaim, after years of neglect and near-destruction, a cemetery in which my great-great-great grandmother is buried. The cemetery had been hidden under downed trees and impossible brush for 40 years, surrounded by a subdivision for nearly 20 years, and not one person in that subdivision cared enough to clean it up or bring it to anyone’s attention. It took a person who had only lived in the area 2 months to call a meeting to shame us into doing something about it; now my dad spends much of the first Saturday of each month maintaining it. I can claim some ignorance, for I didn’t know of the cemetery’s existence until a year or so before it was cleaned up. Now, because I might find a burial of the family’s that I don’t know about, I have to do something about every cemetery in the county—how many are cared for or not, how many are active, what can be done to give each one a little bit of maintenance, get them mapped out and acknowledged, put signs on them. I want to research every unmarked grave, to find who might be buried there. Others have been on similar quests, and we are joining together, because it is a shame that these sacred places are not cared for. Someone has to care about the cemeteries. It’s not enough to talk to one older person who knew “so-and-so”, a relative of mine or Greg’s, and can tell me stories about the relative. I want to hear that older person’s story, for in it, I might find clues about someone else’s life, the culture, why “we didn’t speak of being Cherokee”, what they did for fun, who could play the best fiddle, how they courted. I have to talk to every older person I can, because there might be that one little clue, one little missing piece of the puzzle that makes a part of our family history suddenly make sense. I want to video them, recording the interviews for other people, in case someone else hears something which suddenly makes sense for them—for they, too, may come up with an answer to a question of their own, and in doing so, answer yet another question for me. Some of these older people will never write their memories down, so their history must be oral by necessity. Someone has to care about the oral history of our people. It’s not enough to collect old pictures, documents, family Bibles, military records, newspaper articles, and other paper records of just our family. One local author has published several books on her various family lines, and in one, there’s a picture of my great-grandmother’s sister, who died young, at her husband’s family reunion over 70 years ago. My grandmother’s family home burned in the early 1920s, sending family records up in smoke—but miraculously, collateral lines have pictures and other papers that we wouldn’t have access to, otherwise. A friend sent me a copy of her ancestor’s Civil War military records and pension application, in the hopes it will help me find a clue on my own family. I have pictures of people in my husband’s family, but only know a few of the faces well enough to identify them; luckily, his grandmother either wrote names down, or else his grandfather knows these people from either having met them or being told who they were. I know of empty buildings by the dozens, in which some paperwork of some kind might answer a question from a descendant now many miles away; and these papers lie in neglect, with mold and dust decomposing a past that is important. Someone has to care about the paper trail lying hidden in the attics, basements, and closets of abandoned homes, forgotten by descendants. It’s not enough to know that a handful of people have a collection of their own, but hoard it to themselves without allowing access to others who have a right to see it. We know these collections are being cared for now, but we don’t know if there are provisions in a will for these collections. We know some collections are extremely valuable in terms of history, but the owner wants unreasonable compensation in the name of greed. We know that some people simply want to control what they have, because it denies pleasure and satisfaction to everyone else. We also know that some descendants couldn’t care less or are ashamed of the clutter of a collector’s home, and have destroyed many items as soon as they could, items that would be emotionally or sentimentally valuable to someone else. Someone has to care about the hidden collections of artifacts, to ensure their survival, in spite of the negative emotions that might surround them. It’s not enough to drive down a single-lane dirt road to a homestead, cemetery, or other hidden treasure, and walk in the midst of echoes. These echoes are the voices, the sounds, the lives of those who have been gone for much longer than we’ve been alive. A handful of us, crowded into a four-wheel drive, spend time relishing the paths our people—related or not—traveled, marveling at the natural beauty surrounding us. We go into a trance, listening, feeling, knowing, and exploring, communicating in a manner that sits gently on our souls and eases the pressures of the mind. We try to share this feeling with others, writing and talking about this wonderful place tucked back on someone’s pasture or woods, but it’s not something we can speak lightly of. It is life in a way we will never know, for to intrude for more than a short visit would cause it to disappear, and to lose it would hurt us more than we can imagine. Someone has to care about the emotions, the life, the culture that made our people come here and stay, even if you are the first generation to live here. It’s not enough to do your genealogy, be a member of a historical society, participate in or attend a pageant, visit a museum, read a book, or simply say, “I like history.” If you truly like history, you have to live it, breathe it, let it deep into your bones, so that you can understand who you are, why you are here, and the people who made it possible. You have to protect the land, the buildings, the places, the documents…you are the guardian, the researcher, the worker, the force that sweeps in and envelops these things with your care. You can’t say “I can’t find the time,” for it simply means you aren’t going to make the time. You can’t say, “I can’t get involved,” for without your involvement, the history’s going to disappear. You can’t think, “But I’m not from this place I’m living at now,” for if you help out with the area you are living in, maybe someone else will help out in the area you are from in your place. One hour per week spent cutting weeds around tombstones will help bring that cemetery out of the brush, will make someone stop and see what you’re doing and maybe help out; will bring you immeasurable satisfaction that you are doing something to preserve your history, which in turn will preserve your ancestors’ and your descendants’ history. Everyone has a desire to make some kind of mark on the world, to leave some trace of ourselves in the memory of our descendants, to make sure that we are not forgotten. By wiping out our own or someone else’s history, either through neglect or destruction, we are ensuring that our own lives won’t leave a lasting trail for someone else to follow. By our behavior now, it will appear to future generations that we didn’t care about our history, and they are likely to follow by our example, in our footsteps…whether for the good or the bad. If we do not want to simply disappear from our world, we’d better ensure that our people’s world sticks around as well…leave some kind of trail. Forgetting to do that is likely to ensure that we ourselves will be forgotten. Historical activism—actively protecting and ensuring our collective history lives on—has so many different aspects, anyone can be involved and yet not have to be everywhere at once. Everyone has some specialty which can contribute to preserving the past, and it needn't be either expensive or time-consuming. Everyone needs to ensure the mark they make on the world is a permanent, respectful one, by protecting the marks our ancestors made on the world—it is an immortality that no one can deny. Someone has to care about the connections to other people. Someone has to care about the buildings our people lived in, worked in, were educated in, and worshipped in. Someone has to care about the way people made a living. Someone has to care about the cemeteries. Someone has to care about the oral history of our people. Someone has to care about the paper trail lying hidden in the attics, basements, and closets of abandoned homes, forgotten by descendants. Someone has to care about the hidden collections of artifacts, to ensure their survival, in spite of the negative emotions that might surround them. Someone has to care about the emotions, the life, the culture that made our people come here and stay, even if you are the first generation to do so. Do something to preserve your history, which in turn will preserve your ancestors’ and your descendants’ history. ListMom for MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/ http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/~vondak/

Which Ellison and Thurmans do you research?

Dolores - Yes it is, Thank you very much! Sharon S Fulton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolores W RAINESSUTTON" <drainessutton@juno.com> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:36 AM Subject: [MOTANEY] Oklahoma Family Group Sheets > was this the list you are looking for ? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okfamgrp/fgs.htm > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who can't remember the past are condemned to repeat it."--George Santayana > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

was this the list you are looking for ? http://www.rootsweb.com/~okfamgrp/fgs.htm

Hello, AGGRan2U - would you please contact me? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "S FULTON" <SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > Yes, I do have a small amt of info on your line - please e-mail me direct so > you can tell me who you are, I have a report prepared to send to you, but my > program glitched. > And not supposed to send an attachment to the list. > Thank you, > Sharon sfulton@hot.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AGGRAN2U@aol.com> > To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > > > > In a message dated 8/3/02 7:40:09 PM Central Daylight Time, > > SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM writes: > > > Remind me who your Browns & Thurmans are as I recently got new Brown > > > information that appears it connects to mine. > > > > > > > > Are these Thurmans in your line? I would like to know more about them if > you > > have any info to share, especially on Robert Thurman SR.. Thanks. > > > > Descendants of Robert THURMAN > > > > 1 Robert THURMAN b: Abt. 1815 in Kentucky > > . +Sarah ??? b: Abt. 1814 in Missouri > > ........ 2 Robert THURMAN b: Abt. 1844 in Missouri > > ........ 2 America THURMAN b: 10 October 1846 in Missouri d: 30 > > June 1925 in Wetumka, Hughes County, Oklahoma > > ............ +JAMES S. ATKINSON b: 26 July 1829 in Wayne County > ( ?), > > Tennessee m: 05 March 1874 in Boone County, Arkansas d: 22 March 1917 > in > > Wetumka, Hughes County, OK > > ........ 2 Amanda THURMAN b: Abt. 1848 in Missouri > > > > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > "A nation that forgets its past can function no better than an individual > with amnesia."--David C. McCullough, "LA Times," 23 Apr 1978 > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "Life here is not just where we're going, but where we come from."--Dick Solomon, "3rd Rock from the Sun" > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Recently on a list someone gave the address for people with OK families who enter them on some list on Rootsweb. I entered my Taney County Manes family to it and now I don't know where to find it. It is just for people who had ties to OK, could anyone help me out on this? Sharon in TX Sfulton@hot.rr.com

Yes, I do have a small amt of info on your line - please e-mail me direct so you can tell me who you are, I have a report prepared to send to you, but my program glitched. And not supposed to send an attachment to the list. Thank you, Sharon sfulton@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <AGGRAN2U@aol.com> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > In a message dated 8/3/02 7:40:09 PM Central Daylight Time, > SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM writes: > > Remind me who your Browns & Thurmans are as I recently got new Brown > > information that appears it connects to mine. > > > > > Are these Thurmans in your line? I would like to know more about them if you > have any info to share, especially on Robert Thurman SR.. Thanks. > > Descendants of Robert THURMAN > > 1 Robert THURMAN b: Abt. 1815 in Kentucky > . +Sarah ??? b: Abt. 1814 in Missouri > ........ 2 Robert THURMAN b: Abt. 1844 in Missouri > ........ 2 America THURMAN b: 10 October 1846 in Missouri d: 30 > June 1925 in Wetumka, Hughes County, Oklahoma > ............ +JAMES S. ATKINSON b: 26 July 1829 in Wayne County ( ?), > Tennessee m: 05 March 1874 in Boone County, Arkansas d: 22 March 1917 in > Wetumka, Hughes County, OK > ........ 2 Amanda THURMAN b: Abt. 1848 in Missouri > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "A nation that forgets its past can function no better than an individual with amnesia."--David C. McCullough, "LA Times," 23 Apr 1978 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Marian: I have been to the Lead Hill, Ark. looking for some of my relatives by the name of Lewis Alexander McPherson - his father Enos Marion McPherson (my ggrandfather)in the late l800's or early l900. If you have any info regarding that name please contact me at gtland@poncacity.net. Thanks S FULTON wrote: > Hi, Marian, we have written before, and yes I do have Lead Hill connections. > > Remind me who your Browns & Thurmans are as I recently got new Brown > information that appears it connects to mine. > > e-mail me direct at: > sfulton@hot.rr.com > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jpwatson" <marianwatson@hotmail.com> > To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > > > Hi! I would be interested in your Brown and Thurman families. Taney Co., > > and mabey Lead Hill, Ark.? M in Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "S FULTON" <SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM> > > To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:24 PM > > Subject: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > > > > > > > Made it back to God's country in TX - but miss all you guys in Taney Co, > > > > > > So for myTaney friends a great big warm hello! > > > > > > ATTN: Vonda, are you there? Do you still have the Mo-AR-WRV list? - > sorry > > those last 3 letters don't look right. > > > > > > Has anyone mad any progress on getting at least some of the Snapp > Cemetery > > on-line yet? > > > > > > I have BROWN, Thurman, MANES, McNAIR,HILL, Ellison names that I research > > in Taney County & also Boone Co, AR. > > > > > > My address book messed up so if you have contacted me before, please do > so > > again. > > > > > > Be sure you put me in your address books as I am now using a new e-mail > > address while in TX - My AZ address is still good - I'm just not there to > > get my mail. > > > > > > Sharon in TX SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM > > > > > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > > "A society that wants to build the future must know its past, its real > > past, as it was."--Anatoly Rybakov, NY Times, 31 Oct 1986 > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > "Life is a culmination of the past, an awareness of the present, an > indication of a future beyond knowledge, the quality that gives a touch of > divinity to matter."-C. Lindbergh, "Is Civilization Prgress?" Jul 1964 > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come."--Victor Hugo > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My Brown's in Taney Co., Mo. are married into the Jennings, Moore and Parrish families. I have Thurmans in Lead Hill, Ark. kin to the Claude Parrish family and some how they are kin to Abbie Moore family too. I have a Moore Family book and a Fee Gee Parrish married Abbie Moore. The Moore's were from the area of Cedar Creek and Taneyville, Mo. M in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "S FULTON" <SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > Hi, Marian, we have written before, and yes I do have Lead Hill connections. > > Remind me who your Browns & Thurmans are as I recently got new Brown > information that appears it connects to mine. > > e-mail me direct at: > sfulton@hot.rr.com > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jpwatson" <marianwatson@hotmail.com> > To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > > > > Hi! I would be interested in your Brown and Thurman families. Taney Co., > > and mabey Lead Hill, Ark.? M in Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "S FULTON" <SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM> > > To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:24 PM > > Subject: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > > > > > > > Made it back to God's country in TX - but miss all you guys in Taney Co, > > > > > > So for myTaney friends a great big warm hello! > > > > > > ATTN: Vonda, are you there? Do you still have the Mo-AR-WRV list? - > sorry > > those last 3 letters don't look right. > > > > > > Has anyone mad any progress on getting at least some of the Snapp > Cemetery > > on-line yet? > > > > > > I have BROWN, Thurman, MANES, McNAIR,HILL, Ellison names that I research > > in Taney County & also Boone Co, AR. > > > > > > My address book messed up so if you have contacted me before, please do > so > > again. > > > > > > Be sure you put me in your address books as I am now using a new e-mail > > address while in TX - My AZ address is still good - I'm just not there to > > get my mail. > > > > > > Sharon in TX SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM > > > > > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > > "A society that wants to build the future must know its past, its real > > past, as it was."--Anatoly Rybakov, NY Times, 31 Oct 1986 > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > "Life is a culmination of the past, an awareness of the present, an > indication of a future beyond knowledge, the quality that gives a touch of > divinity to matter."-C. Lindbergh, "Is Civilization Prgress?" Jul 1964 > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come."--Victor Hugo > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 8/3/02 7:40:09 PM Central Daylight Time, SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM writes: > Remind me who your Browns & Thurmans are as I recently got new Brown > information that appears it connects to mine. > > Are these Thurmans in your line? I would like to know more about them if you have any info to share, especially on Robert Thurman SR.. Thanks. Descendants of Robert THURMAN 1 Robert THURMAN b: Abt. 1815 in Kentucky . +Sarah ??? b: Abt. 1814 in Missouri ........ 2 Robert THURMAN b: Abt. 1844 in Missouri ........ 2 America THURMAN b: 10 October 1846 in Missouri d: 30 June 1925 in Wetumka, Hughes County, Oklahoma ............ +JAMES S. ATKINSON b: 26 July 1829 in Wayne County ( ?), Tennessee m: 05 March 1874 in Boone County, Arkansas d: 22 March 1917 in Wetumka, Hughes County, OK ........ 2 Amanda THURMAN b: Abt. 1848 in Missouri

Hi, Marian, we have written before, and yes I do have Lead Hill connections. Remind me who your Browns & Thurmans are as I recently got new Brown information that appears it connects to mine. e-mail me direct at: sfulton@hot.rr.com Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "jpwatson" <marianwatson@hotmail.com> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > Hi! I would be interested in your Brown and Thurman families. Taney Co., > and mabey Lead Hill, Ark.? M in Texas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S FULTON" <SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM> > To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:24 PM > Subject: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > > > > Made it back to God's country in TX - but miss all you guys in Taney Co, > > > > So for myTaney friends a great big warm hello! > > > > ATTN: Vonda, are you there? Do you still have the Mo-AR-WRV list? - sorry > those last 3 letters don't look right. > > > > Has anyone mad any progress on getting at least some of the Snapp Cemetery > on-line yet? > > > > I have BROWN, Thurman, MANES, McNAIR,HILL, Ellison names that I research > in Taney County & also Boone Co, AR. > > > > My address book messed up so if you have contacted me before, please do so > again. > > > > Be sure you put me in your address books as I am now using a new e-mail > address while in TX - My AZ address is still good - I'm just not there to > get my mail. > > > > Sharon in TX SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM > > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > "A society that wants to build the future must know its past, its real > past, as it was."--Anatoly Rybakov, NY Times, 31 Oct 1986 > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "Life is a culmination of the past, an awareness of the present, an indication of a future beyond knowledge, the quality that gives a touch of divinity to matter."-C. Lindbergh, "Is Civilization Prgress?" Jul 1964 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi! I would be interested in your Brown and Thurman families. Taney Co., and mabey Lead Hill, Ark.? M in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "S FULTON" <SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM> To: <MOTANEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: [MOTANEY] Hi Folks > Made it back to God's country in TX - but miss all you guys in Taney Co, > > So for myTaney friends a great big warm hello! > > ATTN: Vonda, are you there? Do you still have the Mo-AR-WRV list? - sorry those last 3 letters don't look right. > > Has anyone mad any progress on getting at least some of the Snapp Cemetery on-line yet? > > I have BROWN, Thurman, MANES, McNAIR,HILL, Ellison names that I research in Taney County & also Boone Co, AR. > > My address book messed up so if you have contacted me before, please do so again. > > Be sure you put me in your address books as I am now using a new e-mail address while in TX - My AZ address is still good - I'm just not there to get my mail. > > Sharon in TX SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "A society that wants to build the future must know its past, its real past, as it was."--Anatoly Rybakov, NY Times, 31 Oct 1986 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Made it back to God's country in TX - but miss all you guys in Taney Co, So for myTaney friends a great big warm hello! ATTN: Vonda, are you there? Do you still have the Mo-AR-WRV list? - sorry those last 3 letters don't look right. Has anyone mad any progress on getting at least some of the Snapp Cemetery on-line yet? I have BROWN, Thurman, MANES, McNAIR,HILL, Ellison names that I research in Taney County & also Boone Co, AR. My address book messed up so if you have contacted me before, please do so again. Be sure you put me in your address books as I am now using a new e-mail address while in TX - My AZ address is still good - I'm just not there to get my mail. Sharon in TX SFULTON@HOT.RR.COM

Dolores please reinvite me to your site My line is to the Williams. Thank you.. Rosemary Stewart.. I think you invited me at one time but i cannot find email and working on Williams families of Taney County now.. > ** Original Subject: [MOTANEY] Early Taney co and Boone co Settlers > ** Original Sender: Dolores W RAINESSUTTON <drainessutton@juno.com> > ** Original Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:59:55 -0600 > ** Original Message follows... > > If you desc from any of the following names contact me and i will send > you a invitation to my website"as The Raines Came Down' > Raines > wilson > Williams > Marler > Bly > Parton > Roy > Dejurnette/De jarnett > Rowan > Hughey > Perry > Wyrick > Haskins > plus more > Thanks Dolores > > > > Dolores Raines/Sutton > would you like an invitation to my" As The Raines came down" website? > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > "My future is in my past and my past is my present. I must now make the present my future."--Vladimir Horowitz, "NY Times," 17 Mar 1965 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Rosemary Stewart Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com