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    1. Re: 1920 Taney County Census
    2. Marge, Your work is just wonderful and have looked at your census page on Beaver North Part. Am waiting for the rest of them. The only thing I can see wrong at this time is on your first page with the beautiful purple flowers and border. The border on the right has covered up a lot of your typing so maybe you could move the typing over a little to the left as the border is great. Ideana

    09/22/2000 04:55:47
    1. 1920 Taney County Census
    2. I am working on the 1920 census and have finished 1 township finished - Beaver North Part - Bradley ville. I will put them up on the web as soon as I finish a township. The first one is there if you want to take a look. Please email me if you have any problems or see anything that needs to be corrected. Here is the URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thehdbrownfamily/index.htm There are a few glitches in the site and I am fixing them. But I just wanted to let you know it was up and see what you thought Please email me privately with comments. Marge Brown

    09/22/2000 04:42:21
    1. Re: IN to MO & Tidwell
    2. Ingrid Albers
    3. Vonda, I've just spent a good 45 minutes puzzling over your Wilson family mess. Anybody doing genealogy has to get a good laugh out of people mourning the family values of the "good old days." IMO Catherine has taken a bit too much of the blame, and old David was doing the double family thing. I have a couple of similar tangles in my family tree, and one of them, "Big Bill," fathered 18 kids on an alternating basis between two women. His real faux pas was that the girls were sisters, which did not make him popular with their parents. Anyhow, I think I can shed some light on a couple of other topics. You've seen Tidwell on the post office map in Elmo Ingenthron's book. Tidwell was, as you said, located between Cedar Creek and Protem. Judging by comparison to a current Taney County map, it was probably along what is now Frank Rea Road, north of the Cedar Creek-Protem Road (a pretty, but rough gravel trail that passes the homestead of my great-grandparents). Regarding the Indiana to Missouri move, I have ABBOTT ancestors in Christian County who made that move, as well as LEWISES from Douglas County. Several things contributed to this, most based on what you said about the Ozarks being a good place to be self-sufficient, if not wealthy. First, there was lots of homestead land available here, and that, along with the free land available to Union veterans, provided lots of opportunity here when many families in the central midwest were being hurt financially or losing their land because of a combination of a nationwide depression in the early 1870's and several years of bad crops in the farm belt. Also, if you go back another generation or two, many of the Indiana/Illinois immigrants were originally from those same areas of Kentucky and Tennessee that the original Ozarkians came from, but they left that region for the same reasons many left the Ozarks during the war--it was a bitterly divided border region. Whatever the reasons, the Historical Atlas of Missouri has some maps that show the top three states contributing to immigration to Missouri prior to 1860 were Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia, with Tennessee being the major force in the Ozarks. After 1860 that trend shifted to Illinois, Kentucky, and Indiana. Ohio was in fourth place in both time periods, and Germany was actually #2 both times. Hope this is helpful, Ingrid

    09/21/2000 06:56:01
    1. Tuttle
    2. Hi I am new to list. The SSDI for a Jay W. Tuttle, it indicated his last benefits were in Taney Cty, MO. He died in February of 1978. I would like to find the exact date of death, and if anyone could find an obit for me it would be wonderful. I am trying to determine if this is a relative. Does anyone have any suggestions? I believe he was born in NE. Thank you, P. Asmus [email protected]

    09/20/2000 08:53:55
    1. petition
    2. Vonda Sheets
    3. This came to me from Bob Doerr, who has done great work with MO family history. Take out the MO part, and except for TX and CA, which have their indexes online, send it to your own candidates in other states, if you see a need for it. And pass it on! Vonda Genealogical Researchers in Missouri: Let's really push for opening of the Missouri vital records 72 years or older. This will require legislative action. Let's get it passed in the up-coming session! Surely, it would be beneficial, during the present campaign, to present this issue to the candidates for state legislature and state senate. The following may help you in your contacts with the candidates in your district. Keep it non-partisan. Dear Legislator Candidate: Many, many Missourians are keenly interested in family history. However, some are impeded by a problem that exists with regard to the State Vital Records Office and which, indeed, would exist in any similar situation. The time has arrived for microfilm copies of the Missouri vital records (72 years old or older), and indexes at the State Vital Records Office in the Department of Health to be made available to the public at the State Archives. A 72-year interval is not arbitrary. Owing to the Federal regulation that census data remain closed for 72 years, that interval has become a de facto standard in the USA. A 72-year interval suffices for privacy. Justification: Family Historians must be enabled to study record after record, not just seek one record at a time, and especially not have to work through an intermediary person or to depend on an index. That is essential, because of the many problems in interpretation of hand-written records, many typos, many spelling variations in names, even many variations in names themselves. There are many entries in which the surnames are mis-spelled. Here is an example. One researcher's great-grandma's married name was Zakrzewski, a name that, with the silent 'k', is more often butchered than not. She died in St. Louis some time after May, 1910. Surely, her death is recorded in the State Vital Records office The only practical way to find her death data would be to search all the surnames that begin "Za", "Ze", "Sa" or "Se" in that time period. Repeated tries thru the Vital Records Office have been costly, but not successful. In another case, a researcher submitted formal requests and fees to a vital records office (not Jefferson City) for his aunt's birth and death dates. He knew, and stated, that she was born and had died in the 1890s. They reported finding neither birth nor death records. As it happens, those older birth and death records are open. When he reviewed the microfilms, he found both her birth and death data. And he found that her birth name differed from her baptismal name and from her name at death! The latter had been the only name that he had known for her. Perhaps that vital records office's index cards were out of sequence. More likely, they had her recorded by only one of her names. Because hand-written capital letters are the most troublesome, it often happens that indexes are severely deficient. Yet a governmental office can only check via an index. The Soundex system is similarly deficient, for it, too, depends on the surname initial. All that is needed is to add to Sect. 193.245 of RSMO 1994 a new sub-paragraph as follows: (4) The department shall provide microfilms of all vital records that are 72 years old or older, and microfilms of indexes to such records, to the State Archives for study by the public. Please note that this would in no way interfere with the present practices of the vital records office. In the most-recent legislature, different bills were introduced into each house, and hearings were held, but no action has yet been taken. Will you support family researchers in this effort?

    09/20/2000 05:01:38
    1. Re: MOTANEY-D Digest V00 #257
    2. Sara Stone
    3. Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:46:07 -0800 From: Don & Barbara Logan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Thanks for that info Sara! I would guess you found it on Tom Stevenson's GIDEON family webpages.... duh.... I should have checked there!!! (SMILE) Can't help but notice your name is Stone - are you related to Carolyn June Stone?? Barbara Hi Barbara, Thanks for pointing out where I'd found the GIDEON family! I knew I'd seen it but things have been so hectic lately, I wasn't sure I EVER remember! <G> No, I'm not related to Carolyn (nor is my husband- I'm a Yates). In fact, I didn't even know that was her name until I saw it on the web page. Strangely enough, our kids went to school together at Parkview High here in Springfield and we got acquainted then. My hubby's family is from north-central MO, near Blackwater & Pilot Knob (north of Sedalia). However....I haven't traced them very far back so who knows? When we moved to Springfield years ago, there was a Stone running for county office who looked a lot like some uncles. I guess I'd better get to work on that line! Sara

    09/19/2000 04:34:39
    1. Tidwell
    2. Vonda Sheets
    3. I've not been able to find the exact location of Tidwell, but the first and last postmaster, William J. TIDWELL, lived in Big Creek Township, which is where Protem was located. I know I've seen it on a map somewhere, but the P.O. was only active a total of 3 years, from 1891 to 1894. I can't find all my maps (if you saw my office, you'd know why...my stuff is fairly well-organized, but sometimes things get buried, and I forget I have them), but I did a search at the BLM site, and Wm Tidwell apparently wasn't a homesteader in Taney Co. Let's say it was between Protem and Cedar Creek, somewhere in that area. Not far from Protem, but apparently far enough that Mr. Tidwell thought another post office was needed. Vonda

    09/19/2000 03:45:07
    1. IN to MO
    2. Vonda Sheets
    3. >> but your answer regarding Morgan Co. Ind. 1850 makes me want to ask a question - I'm looking for the GROSS family and they also were in Morgan Co. Ind. in 1850 and in 1870 Taney Co. -was this a common place of departure and arrival?<< Well, now, I'm not sure I'm quite understanding the question. As for GROSS families, there are still several here, mostly in the southwestern area of Taney. There were COX families from IN who were in Taney Co. by 1850...I've been trying to connect them to my ggg grandmother, Mary Margaret COX b ca 1827 IN, and her father, Christopher, b ca 1796 TN. Just can't seem to link those Cox families to Christopher...but I'm sure there is one, for Margaret (as she was called) and her husband, Abraham MACOMB, moved to Christian county about 1875, from KS of all places...and I can't find a reason. Margaret's mother was a POPE. Taney county was a major "destination", you could say, of families with Indian heritage; of families with a criminal bent; and of honest folk, too, who just simply didn't like interference and a whole bunch of other people (wonder what they'd do these days?) Land was either cheap or nearly free, thanks to the Homestead Act of 1862; and many folks who fought in the Ozarks or the White River Valley during the Civil War moved here after. Taney's population in 1870 was much less than in 1860, mostly due to the war, and to bushwhackers. It took a brave family willing to risk their lives to live here during the late 1860s and throughout the 1870s. As I've stated before, this is one reason the Bald Knobbers started up in 1884; during the 20 years previous, Taney Co. had not convicted nor sent one person to the State Pen. Too many people were kin to others to seat an impartial jury, if a criminal case even made it to trial. Corruption was rampant; the sheriff, whoever was "brave" enough to run for election (it was an easy job, for few actually went out chasing after someone who'd committed a crime, and most of the sheriffs just stayed around Forsyth, hanging out), seldom arrested anyone. If they did actually make an arrest, the criminal could easily break free and hide out--and this land is very easy to hide in. If necessary, they could go down to kin or friends in AR, or out to Indian Territory. My gg grandfather, General Sherman BULL, moved to Taney with his family in 1873, from Hardin/Bell Co. KY. They lived by Kirbyville less than a year, and deciding it was too rough--Kirbyville was a major town in those days, being at the junction of several roads--the BULLS moved over to near Berryville, in Carroll Co. AR. Greg's 3xg grandmother, Eliza Jane LEE BLANSIT DEAN moved here with most of her Blansit children and her second husband, about 1868. She had a sister who already lived near Bluff. Some of the stories I've heard about her indicate she was a pretty tough cookie (although not as bad as Ol' Lady Fannie PREWITT MELTON). The DEAN family moved here from IN, where Eliza Jane's husband Leander's family was from, but they originally came from De Kalb Co. AL. I've not heard about the topography of country in Indiana, but I know that the areas of KY and AL that the people I've researched came from looked a great deal like Taney Co. Steep hills, narrow fertile valleys, and plenty of privacy. Most of the folks who moved to Taney--and this is a GREAT clue--had friends of extended family, or even extended families themselves--who moved here long before the Civil War. The GIDEON family and some others who were present in 1840 and 1850 census records, and were of a European heritage (Irish, I think, in the GIDEON family), came because they were always looking for "new land", the frontier. They stayed because Taney county remained respectful of privacy, often disdainful of laws, and as long as a family minded its own business, a family could live relatively free. If a person didn't want great riches, but just to take care of his family and do as he fairly well pleased, it was a destination. I hope that answers what you are looking for. Some families only stayed a generation or so (if that long), before deciding to move on. Vonda

    09/19/2000 03:38:58
    1. RE: Cupp- Beardon--COMPTON--McKINNEY
    2. HOUK DON (CBD)
    3. Since Vonda added something to the very extensive and interesting CUPP-BEARDON family data, and stated toward the end of her message below that Lorea BEARDON married Albert COMPTON but she didn't have anything further, here is (as Paul Harvey would say) THE REST OF THE STORY about Lorea and her husband: LOREA LAURA BEARDEN (spelling given me was BEARDEN--I don't know which is correct) b.14 July 1912 in Chestnut Ridge, Taney Co., MO d.31 Jan 1990 Springfield, Greene Co., MO md 27 June 1931 in Branson, Taney Co., MO JAMES ALBERT COMPTON s/o John Thomas COMPTON & Daisy Mae SHAWLEY McKINNEY b.5 Oct 1910 Branson, Taney Co., MO d.21 Sept 1999 Branson, Taney Co., MO they were parents of 2 children: 1) Betty Mae COMPTON who married Archie PLUMMER and still lives in Branson 2) Albert James COMPTON who married Lynn Conway b.12 Aug 1935 Branson, Taney Co., MO d.2 Jan 1977 In order for Vonda to add to another name to her list of those having Cherokee roots, the above-named Daisy Mae SHAWLEY was a Cherokee orphan raised by Benjamin & Sis McKINNEY and hence took their name, as did some others whom they took into their home since Benjamin & Sis had no children of their own. Who Daisy's Cherokee line was unfortunately wasn't ever identified prior to her death so I guess it will never be known. Daisy and her husband John Thomas COMPTON were married in Forsyth 3 July 1897 and lived to celebrate their 71st wedding Anniversary in 19 68 prior to John's death in Calif. that year & Daisy's death in 1969. Above-mentioned Benjamin Franklin McKINNEY is mentioned in numerous early Taney Co. stories but I have no other info on his ancestry except that shown below, and therefore wonder if anyone else knows about his line since he left no descendants: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN McKINNEY b.18 Sept 1837-TN d.5 Feb 1926 Taney Co., MO md about 1860-1861 Taney Co., MO BELVERETTA CATHARINE "Sis" CASEY (d/o Levi CASEY & Mary "Polly" HAGGARD) b.2 Dec 1844 Greene Co., MO d.26 Apr 1921 Taney Co., MO Benjamin & Sis had no children of their own but helped raise a number of orphans or at least opened their home to a number of less fortunate young people in the Taney Co. area throughout their lives. Don Houk E-mail: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Vonda Sheets [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Cupp & Beardon & Hensley & Long & Wilson & Nash, etc. Hey, Ideana, >>3 Florence Beardon 1909 -<< Florence Beardon married Chester Hensley, s/o Benjamin Hensley and Maggie Long. She died 27 May 1970, here in Branson. They lived up by the Berry Cemetery, on land that is just south of the current Branson High School. I posted about this back in June, when our cemetery hopper group was featured in the Springfield paper. There were tombstones taken from the cem and used in the rock porch and outbuildings. You can see them quite clearly. There is a small building out of the rock, once used by George Beardon as a house. I don't imagine he had more than a cot and maybe a cabinet in it--if memory serves me right, Grandma said that it was also a chicken coop. If you want to get really twisted up....(gosh, a person shouldn't have so much fun being cruel...LOL) Are you "listening", Pama? Maggie Long was the daughter of Franklin Long and Susan Charity Wilson. Susan was the daughter of David William Wilson and Catherine Ann Brant. David and Catherine were my ggg grandparents. David and Catherine's son, John William, was my gg grandfather. His first wife was Millie Wilson, who was the daughter of Johnathon Wilson and Mary Ann Chrisman. Johnathon and David Wilson were brothers, so John William married his first cousin (this was not an Indian marriage; these folks were probably Irish). John William Wilson and Susan Charity Wilson Long had a sister, Ruth, who married Thomas Jefferson "Jeff" Nash, who were Pama's great-grandparents. Catherine Ann Brant Wilson is buried in Renshaw Cemetery. Please forgive me for forgetting...but someone else onlist is looking for Beardon info. Florence's father was Louis F. Beardon, as Ideana stated. Louis' father was Frances Marion Beardon. The last child you have under Louis and Laura Cupp Beardon, was Lorea Beardon. Her husband was Albert Compton. I don't have any information on them other than that. So you are cousins, at least by marriage--I'd be afraid to figure the exact degree out--to both me and Pama, possibly Don H., my husband Greg (who is a Blansit/St. Clair descendant), the whole Bilyeu shebang, and most of the folks who lived in Bear Creek Valley. Hee hee. Gawrsh, dat wuz fun... Congrats on your new info...way to go! Vonda ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

    09/19/2000 02:11:41
    1. Parsons
    2. Jeannie K Owens
    3. I am looking for anyone who has any information on a Pearl Parsons born March 20,1896 Her mother was Emma Harriet Loomis (Lomas). Her step father was M.P. Wright. She might have went by Pearl Wright. She died in 1930 and she is buried at Branson. MO. If you have any information on her please let me know. Thank you, Jeannie

    09/19/2000 11:46:31
    1. Re: MOTANEY-D Digest V00 #256
    2. Don & Barbara Logan
    3. > #6 Re: MOTANEY-D Digest V00 #255 [Sara Stone <[email protected]] >______________________________X-Message: #6 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:46:06 -0500 >From: Sara Stone <[email protected]> > >At 09:00 AM 09/17/2000 -0700, you wrote: >>.......................5 Carolyn June Stone 1942 - >>...........................+John Lee Gideon >>..................................6 Carla June Gideon 1961 - >>......................................+Steve Brixey >>.............................................7 Amanda Lee Brixey 1984 - >>.............................................7 Landon Brixey 1988 - >>..................................6 Jeffery Gideon 1963 - > >Do you know the parents and siblings of this John Lee Gideon???? > > >Robert and Elma Chaney Gideon are his parents. They were friends of my >folks and Johnny was my first boyfriend before I started school and for >several years after. <G> His siblings are (not full names, sorry) Bobby, >Barbara, Marilyn, Johnny, Wendell, Janet and Mike. I found the whole >family listed on someone's web page but can't lay my hands on the >address right now. <G> I'm sure someone else will come up with the >information though. Bob was a lawyer and then a judge. He was also a law >partner of Doug Mahnkey. > >Sara Thanks for that info Sara! I would guess you found it on Tom Stevenson's GIDEON family webpages.... duh.... I should have checked there!!! (SMILE) Can't help but notice your name is Stone - are you related to Carolyn June Stone?? Barbara

    09/19/2000 03:46:07
    1. Newton Twp
    2. Vonda Sheets
    3. Margie, Newton Twp was where Branson was located, but later was moved to the extreme SW corner of the county. There isn't one anymore. Vonda

    09/19/2000 02:18:29
    1. Newton Township?
    2. I am still working on the 1920 Taney County census, and I have run across Newton Township. I cannot find this on any map. Can someone tell me were this might have been located. Marge Brown

    09/18/2000 01:36:12
    1. Re: MOTANEY-D Digest V00 #255
    2. Sara Stone
    3. A couple of questions regarding yesterday's Digest's information! At 09:00 AM 09/17/2000 -0700, you wrote: >.......................5 Carolyn June Stone 1942 - >...........................+John Lee Gideon >..................................6 Carla June Gideon 1961 - >......................................+Steve Brixey >.............................................7 Amanda Lee Brixey 1984 - >.............................................7 Landon Brixey 1988 - >..................................6 Jeffery Gideon 1963 - Do you know the parents and siblings of this John Lee Gideon???? Robert and Elma Chaney Gideon are his parents. They were friends of my folks and Johnny was my first boyfriend before I started school and for several years after. <G> His siblings are (not full names, sorry) Bobby, Barbara, Marilyn, Johnny, Wendell, Janet and Mike. I found the whole family listed on someone's web page but can't lay my hands on the address right now. <G> I'm sure someone else will come up with the information though. Bob was a lawyer and then a judge. He was also a law partner of Doug Mahnkey. Sara

    09/18/2000 11:46:06
    1. Re: 1920 census
    2. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostone/1920census/1920.htm Warmest smiles, Pama

    09/18/2000 11:20:46
    1. Re: Speaks in James twp
    2. Linda, Not as far as I know. Can't imagine a family setting out from there in hopes to come to MO. But I am still knew at this. Most of my line comes from MO, TN, KY, AR or the surrounding area. I just happened along this information for Terry, thought it might be of use. I know, lets ask Vonda. HEY VONDA, >Sorry, just to jump into this conversation, but your answer regarding Morgan Co. Ind. 1850 makes me want to ask a question - I'm looking for the GROSS family and they also were in Morgan Co. Ind. in 1850 and in 1870 Taney Co. - was this a common place of departure and arrival?< Linda would like to know. Thanks, Pama

    09/18/2000 11:04:35
    1. 1920 census
    2. I have been on vacation and must have missed the 1920 census. I would like to know where it was posted. Thank You Shirley

    09/18/2000 10:45:25
    1. Now the WILSON story
    2. Vonda Sheets
    3. This is a family legend, impossible to prove, hard to disprove David William Wilson, s/o David and Sarah Priest WILSON of the earlier post, md 1st to Catherine Anne Brant in OH about 1844. She supposedly grew infatuated with a circuit-riding minister and took off with him. The son Christopher is supposed to be her son with him. During the years she was gone, David met Anna Chrisman; they lived together as man and wife, and the rest of the children are supposed to be hers. David served--and I can't find where I have it--in a MO Infantry unit during the Civil War, but I haven't figured out exactly how--he is in Scioto Co. OH in 1850 and 1860 Census records, and in Cairo, Saline Co. IL in 1870. I don't know where he was in 1880, but MO would be an obvious answer, since my gg grandfather Johnathon (a family spelling) William WILSON md Permilia "Millie" WILSON about 1878 in Grundy Co. And Millie's father (I ALWAYS forget he is also a ggg grandfather) was in Grundy Co. by 1858, when she was born. Anyway... Catherine BRANT came looking for David after some time, found him living with Anna CHRISMAN, kicked her out, and moved herself and her son in. Anna went to IL, utterly destroyed, but David followed after her and there they lived until her death when Mary, the youngest, was born in 1866. Only then did he take Catherine back, and they lived happily ever after. She died in 1898 in Pedrow, Taney Co. MO, and was buried in Renshaw Cemetery, with an elaborate tombstone stating "My Beloved Wife" and something about being reunited in eternity. Okay. Problem #1--David's wife is listed as "Anne" age 24 b OH in 1850 Scioto Co. OH, with 5 yr old son "Christian" b OH. In 1860 Scioto Co. OH, she is "Catharine" age 36 b PA, with 15 yr old son Christopher b in IL. In 1870 Saline Co. IL, the wife is again "Catherine" age 46 b PA, with son Christopher age 23 b OH. Allowing for the usual census idiosyncrasies, plus different dates the various censuses were taken during the year, all three could be the same woman. Problem #2--After my gg grandfather was born in OH (4th child), every other child is born in IL. George 14 IL, Benjamin 11 b OH, Rachel 13 b IL, Susan 9 b OH, Mary 4 b IL. Problem #3--can't find a marriage license for David and Catherine. Problem #4--Can't find Anna's grave in IL. Supposedly, after Catherine died, David had Anna exhumed from whatever cemetery in IL, and removed to Renshaw, where she was buried some 30 feet back from Catherine in a grave marked only by fieldstone. The problem with that is a) there is no record of Anna's being buried anywhere, b) while David certainly had the money to do this, I seriously doubt he would have let the mother of his children lie in an otherwise unmarked grave, especially when he put such an elaborately beautiful stone on his erring wife's grave. I would like to think that he had SOME sensitivity, and that would be a grossly insensitive thing to do. Besides, if he did that, Anna Chrisman's grave would be in Bull Creek now, since Powersite Dam was built. It was not within the known cemetery boundaries. Problem #5--David isn't buried by Catherine. He's buried in the LONG family plot, in Maplewood Cemetery in Springfield. He was supposed to be buried by Catherine in Renshaw (says that on his death cert, dated 1916); but daughter Mary, who was married to John Long (daughter Susan was married to Frank Long, John's bro) is supposed to have thrown a fit and refused to allow her darlin' dad to be buried by "That Woman", who was supposedly not her mother. If Anna is in Renshaw, why didn't they bury him by her, then? Then you have all the problems with transporting his body to Springfield. At the time of his death, he lived in Eau de Vie, which is just over the Christian County line, north of Bluff. Problem #6--Charley Long was the informant on Mary WILSON LONG's death cert, in 1953. He listed his grandmother as being "BRANDT". If Mary was not shy about her hatred of Catherine Brant, surely her own son wouldn't have listed Catherine as being his grandmother? Problem #7--the only Anna CHRISMAN we find that is even close to being a possible was 12 years old in 1850, in her father's home in Grundy County, MO. Since David was living in OH at that time, and all his kids were born there during the following decade, what are the chances he went and found himself a 12 yr old to live with in OH from MO? If you say good, I have 10 choice acres of perfectly flat land, lake front and prime Hwy 76 frontage... It is not helped by the fact that there was bitter fighting between sibs at the time of David's death, over his estate and who got what. He was 92, and apparently didn't leave a will. David had a sister-in-law, as we've discussed, who was Mary Ann CHRISMAN. She was Millie Wilson's mother (which makes her my ggg grandmother, forgettin' again). David's son, Johnathon, who married Millie, had a total of 4 documented wives (we can't find the supposed marriage to Frances, the supposed first wife). On his deathbed in 1941, he told son Paul not to ever forget his grandmother, Anna CHRISMAN. He claimed Anna was his own mother, and that members of the family conveniently forgot about her, since that would make them illegitimate. His wife, Paul's mother Lucinda HENSLEE WILSON, was the informant on the death cert, and put Anna Chrisman as his mother. He also claimed that David Wilson moved to MO via raft down the Ohio River. Nope, as census records tell us. Let's face it, he was 88. He must have been a heckuva man, for one time, his daughter in law, Daisy Jones Cox Wilson, asked him during the early 1930s how come he was bald when his father had had a full head of hair upon death. Grandma, who was Daisy's own step-DIL, was present when he sat back in his chair and said, "Honey, if you'd bounced your head aginst as many headboards as I have, you'd be bald, too!" Lucinda was 52 when Johnathon William died, and she never remarried. We think he was a bit confused, or else "Uncle" Paul--honorary title--got a bit confused in the passage of time since. He's 80 now, and vehemently claims Anna's position as his grandmother and Johnathon William's mother. I'm wondering if ol' Johnathon got his sons mixed up--I've not compared pictures, but it's possible--and didn't want his sons by Millie to forget their family in Grundy and Livingston Counties, who was kin twice. There's lots of other stories, but if you got some ideas on how to solve this puzzle, I'd sure like to hear it. I have no idea as to why the WILSON family moved to Taney and Christian counties in MO. You always want to think there was prior family there, but I don't know who it'd be...Chrisman is a good bet. Vonda

    09/18/2000 10:38:52
    1. Wilson/Brant/Chrisman Data
    2. Vonda Sheets
    3. I promised...even though I'm out of Diet Dr. Pepper, I'll deliver... In Taney County, there are FLORENCE, KEITH, NASH, BLANSIT, HENSLEY, LONG, CUPP and other family names here. Toward the end. David Wilson b 1783 PA d 1855 Grundy Co. MO and Sarah Priest b abt 1801 d 1855 Grundy Co. MO Children of DAVID WILSON and SARAH PRIEST are: 2. i. SUSANNAH2 WILSON, b. 19 Jul 1819, Sandy Creek, Meigs Co. OH or PA; d. 13 Sep 1910, Lucasville, Scioto Co. OH. ii. HENRY SAMUEL WILSON, b. Abt. 1820, OH; d. Abt. 1820, OH. 3. iii. DAVID WILLIAM WILSON, b. 19 Dec 1823, Scioto Co. OH; d. 22 May 1916, Christian Co. MO. iv. MARIAH WILSON, b. 11 Feb 1824. 4. v. NATHAN WILSON, b. Bet. 26 Nov 1826 - 1828, OH; d. 09 Oct 1864. vi. MARGARET WILSON, b. 16 Dec 1827, OH; m. (1) JOHN S. CUTLIP; m. (2) W. A. DATERMAN. vii. PAMMETIA WILSON, b. Abt. 1832. 5. viii. JOHNATHON THOMAS WILSON, b. 11 Dec 1832, Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH; d. 12 May 1924, Grundy Co. MO. 6. ix. WILLIAM JAMES WILSON, b. 04 Dec 1835, Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH; d. 11 May 1881, Livingston Co. MO. x. LYDIA ANN WILSON, b. 09 May 1838, Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH; d. 13 Apr 1901; m. HENRY MILTON ANDERSON. xi. CHARLOTTE "LOTTIE" WILSON, b. 17 Dec 1841, Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH; m. HARVEY O'DELL. David and Sarah moved to Grundy Co. MO about 1853. They were prosperous farmers in OH, and apparently, if I have the story straight, owned a store in Grundy Co. Other members of their extended family had moved to MO during the 1840s, which is apparently why they came here. They were murdered in 1855, according to family legend, robbed while of the week's proceeds, while riding in a buggy on their way home. We have not been able to find any news accounts of this, nor have we found their graves. Generation No. 2 (I'm only entering the ones pertinent to this. If someone wants what little else I have on this generation, e me offlist) 2. SUSANNAH2 WILSON (DAVID1) was born 19 Jul 1819 in Sandy Creek, Meigs Co. OH or PA, and died 13 Sep 1910 in Lucasville, Scioto Co. OH. She married JOSEPH HENRY SR. BRANT 14 Jul 1842 in Lucasville, Scioto Co. OH, son of CHRISTIAN BRANT and ELIZABETH RITTER. (precedent for Brant family involvement--they and their children apparently stayed in OH) 3. DAVID WILLIAM2 WILSON (DAVID1) was born 19 Dec 1823 in Scioto Co. OH, and died 22 May 1916 in Christian Co. MO. He married CATHARINE ANNA BRANT Abt. 1844 in Scioto Co. OH. Children of DAVID WILSON and CATHARINE BRANT are: 12. i. CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS3 WILSON, b. Bet. Nov 1845 - 1847, OH. ii. SARAH E. WILSON, b. Bet. Oct 1850 - 1852; d. abt 1947. 13. iii. JOHNATHAN WILLIAM WILSON, b. 17 Oct 1852, Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH; d. 05 Jan 1941, Dade Co. MO?. iv. GEORGE WILSON, b. Abt. 1854, IL. 14. v. RACHEL WILSON, b. Bet. 1857 - Feb 1858, IL; d. Day, Taney Co. MO. vii. BENJAMIN WILLIAM WILSON, b. Bet. 1859 - May 1860, Scioto Co. OH. 15. vi. MARION FRANCIS WILSON, b. Bet. Jun 1860 - 1862, Morgan Co. OH; d. 1942, Taney Co. MO. 16. viii. SUSAN CHARITY WILSON, b. 17 Sep 1861, Morgan Co. OH; d. 19 Apr 1950, Taney Co. MO. ix. MARY MELVINA WILSON, b. 29 Apr 1866, Cairo, IL; d. 18 Feb 1953, Springfield, Greene Co. MO; m. JOHN LONG. 5. JOHNATHON THOMAS2 WILSON (DAVID1) was born 11 Dec 1832 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH, and died 12 May 1924 in Grundy Co. MO. He married MARY ANN CHRISMAN 21 May 1857 in Grundy Co. MO, daughter of JAMES CHRISMAN and CATHERINE. Children of JOHNATHON WILSON and MARY CHRISMAN are: 17. i. PERMELIA E.3 WILSON, b. 22 Jul 1858, Trenton, Grundy Co. MO; d. 20 Jan 1881, Grundy Co. MO. ii. JOHNATHON T. WILSON, b. 1860, Grundy Co. MO; d. 1943; m. ELIZA JANE WASSON. 6. WILLIAM JAMES2 WILSON (DAVID1) was born 04 Dec 1835 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH, and died 11 May 1881 in Livingston Co. MO. He married ELIZABETH ELLEN "HETTIE" CHRISMAN 14 Nov 1859 in Grundy Co. MO, daughter of JAMES CHRISMAN and CATHERINE. Children of WILLIAM WILSON and ELIZABETH CHRISMAN are: 18. i. FRANCIS MARION3 WILSON, b. 1863, Grundy Co. MO; d. 1933. ii. WILLIAM JAMES JR. WILSON, b. 1868, MO; d. 1901, MO; m. CORA BELLE BECKNER. iii. SARAH CATHERINE WILSON, b. 1865, Grundy Co. MO; d. 1938; m. (1) AARON MAC REEVES; m. (2) ED ISRAEL; m. (3) CHARLES WILSON. 19. iv. JOHNATHON THOMAS WILSON, b. 1870, Grundy Co. MO; d. 1899. v. SUSAN ALEXA MARIAH WILSON, b. 1872; m. (1) JOHN WARD; m. (2) JAMES CONWAY WHITE. vi. RODELLA MARGARET WILSON, b. 1877; d. 1973; m. WILLIAM DAYTON. Generations #3 and 4 this would be the generation concerning Pama, Ideana, and several others. 12. CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS3 WILSON (DAVID WILLIAM2, DAVID1) was born Bet. Nov 1845 - 1847 in OH. I don't know when he died. Child of CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WILSON is: 21. i. ALLIE E.4 WILSON, b. Aug 1876, AR?; d. 1971, Branson, Taney Co. MO. She married Sylvester CHASE. They were the parents of John Earl CHASE, a longtime superintendant of Branson Schools, and for whom the current stadium in Branson is named. 13. JOHNATHAN WILLIAM3 WILSON (DAVID WILLIAM2, DAVID1) was born 17 Oct 1852 in Portsmouth, Scioto Co. OH, and died 05 Jan 1941 in Dade Co. MO?. He married (1) FRANCES Bef. 1878 in Grundy Co. MO. He married (2) PERMELIA E. WILSON Abt. 1878 in Grundy Co. MO, daughter of JOHNATHON WILSON and MARY CHRISMAN. He married (3) JENNY HUDSON 19 Feb 1883 in Christian Co. MO. He married (4) SARAH ELIZABETH "LIZZIE" BILYEU 23 Feb 1888 in Taney Co. MO, daughter of ISAAC BILYEU and CHARITY HAMMOND. He married (5) SARAH LUCINDA ALICE HENSLEY Abt. 1905 in Dade Co. MO. Children of JOHNATHAN WILSON and PERMELIA WILSON are: i. THOMAS WILLOUGHBY4 WILSON, b. 08 Sep 1877. ii. DAVID WILLIAM WILSON, b. Abt. 1879. 22. iii. JOHN WOODROW WILSON, b. 20 Jan 1881, Grundy Co. MO; d. 19 Mar 1963, Taney Co. MO. Child of JOHNATHAN WILSON and JENNY HUDSON is: 23. iv. JAMES W.4 WILSON, b. 03 Jan 1886, Walnut Shade, Taney Co. MO; d. 20 Jan 1966, Rison AR. Children of JOHNATHAN WILSON and SARAH BILYEU are: v. CHARLES R.4 WILSON, b. Jan 1889, MO; d. Bef. Jan 1941. vi. SUSAN WILSON, b. Feb 1891; d. Abt. 1991. vii. MARY ELLA WILSON, b. Jun 1893; d. Bef. 1910. viii. ROY LESTER WILSON, b. Mar 1897, Dade Co. MO; d. 31 Jul 1987, CA. ix. ELISHA P. WILSON, b. Feb 1899, Dade Co. MO; d. Bef. 1910, Dade Co. MO. x. ALMA WILSON, b. 1901, Dade Co. MO; m. MCCULLOUGH. xi. ANNA MAE WILSON, b. 1903, Dade Co. MO; m. TODD. xii. EULA WILSON, b. 1904, Dade Co. MO; m. CHARLIE WILLIAMS, Bef. 1945. Children of JOHNATHAN WILSON and SARAH HENSLEY are: xiii. NELLIE RACHEL4 WILSON, b. 1907; d. Jun 1999; m. AMOS BERRY. 24. xiv. LENNIE ROSETTA WILSON, b. Jul 1910, MO. xv. IRENE WILSON, b. 1912; d. 1914. xvi. PAUL WILLIAM WILSON, b. 1920, Greene Co. MO; m. KATHRYN AVANELLE SCOTT. 14. RACHEL3 WILSON (DAVID WILLIAM2, DAVID1) was born Bet. 1857 - Feb 1858 in IL, and died in Day, Taney Co. MO. She married THOMAS JEFFERSON NASH Abt. 1873, son of NASH. (sorry, Pama, this is FTM, and not updated--you might want to post yours again!) Children of RACHEL WILSON and THOMAS NASH are: 25. i. SARAH ELLEN4 NASH, b. Jun 1874, Jasper Twp, Taney Co. MO. ii. LOUISE NASH, b. Sep 1880, Day, Jasper Twp. Taney Co. MO; m. W. RALPH GOODALL, 1918, Taney Co. MO. iii. LULA ANN NASH, b. Sep 1880, Day, Taney Co. MO; m. THOMAS J. HARPER, 12 Feb 1896, Taney Co. MO. iv. CLARA NASH, b. Abt. 1882, Taney Co. MO; d. Abt. 1894, Taney Co. MO. v. GEORGE BAILEY "BAIL" NASH, b. Sep 1885, Walnut Shade, Taney Co. MO; m. CLARA CALL, 27 Mar 1910, Taney Co. MO. vi. ELIZABETH "BETTIE" NASH, b. Aug 1887, Day, Jasper Twp. Taney Co. MO; m. THOMAS D. "DILLARD" CUMMINGS, 1913, Taney Co. MO. vii. ERNEST MAREL NASH, b. Nov 1889, Taney Co. MO; m. VIRGINIA FLORENCE. viii. CHARLES H. NASH, b. Dec 1891, Day, Jasper Twp. Taney Co. MO; m. BONNIE BLANSIT, 1913, Taney Co. MO. ix. FRANCIS J. NASH, b. Jan 1894, Taney Co. MO; m. AMY BILYEU. 26. x. PANSY RACHEL NASH, b. 12 Jan 1896, Day, Taney Co. MO; d. 12 Aug 1983, Walnut Shade, Taney Co. MO. married Norman "Red" BLANSIT. They were known as "Red" and "Pink" BLANSIT. xi. CHRISTOPHER DAVID NASH, b. Apr 1898. 15. MARION FRANCIS3 WILSON (DAVID WILLIAM2, DAVID1) was born Bet. Jun 1860 - 1862 in Morgan Co. OH, and died 1942 in Taney Co. MO. He married SARAH C. LEWALLEN 21 Aug 1883 in Reno, Christian Co. MO, daughter of ROBERT LEWALLEN and SARAH DAVIS. (This is where Don Houk and other LEWALLEN researchers come in) Children of MARION WILSON and SARAH LEWALLEN are: i. JAMES4 WILSON, b. May 1883; d. 10 Aug 1945; m. PAT MORRELL. ii. MARY M. WILSON, b. Feb 1885, MO; m. J. WILLIAM KEITH. iii. SUSAN ETHEL WILSON, b. Sep 1890, Hollister, Taney Co. MO; d. 29 Apr 1952; m. LIGE HICKS. iv. LEWIS CARROLL WILSON, b. Aug 1894. v. LONNIE W. WILSON, b. 05 Jul 1897, Taney Co. MO; d. 20 Dec 1965; m. CLARICE MOORE, 10 Sep 1921, Taney Co. MO. vi. CARL EDWARD WILSON, b. 23 Jun 1900, Hollister, Taney Co. MO; d. 22 Oct 1966, Sacramento, CA; m. HARRIET ELIZABETH O'BRIEN. vii. GLADYS WINNIE "GOLDIE" WILSON, b. 26 Feb 1909, Hollister, Taney Co. MO; d. 05 May 1992, Hollister, Taney Co. MO; m. LOUIE ELMER BLUNK. viii. ALFRED D. WILSON, b. 06 Mar 1912, Hollister, Taney Co. MO; d. 17 Nov 1984. ix. WILLIAM WILSON, b. 15 Mar 1888, Hollister, Taney Co. MO; d. 25 Jul 1962, Taney Co. MO; m. MABEL C. BOSWELL, 1919, Taney Co. MO. This is gen #4, NASH/CUPP 25. SARAH ELLEN4 NASH (RACHEL3 WILSON, DAVID WILLIAM2, DAVID1) was born Jun 1874 in Jasper Twp, Taney Co. MO. She married (1) THOMAS J. WARREN Bet. 1900 - 1904 in Taney Co. MO, son of BARTON WARREN and LUSINDA. She married (2) WILLIAM W. CUPP Bet. 1904 - 1910 in Taney Co. MO, son of SIMPSON D. CUPP. Child of SARAH NASH and THOMAS WARREN is: i. BARTON L.5 WARREN, b. Abt. 1904. There are many Chrismans in Grundy Co. MO, Barb. More to come. If you have the ability, you might want to keep this email open while you look at my next one, or print it out. Vonda

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    3. Barb, Don't have any idea if Mary Ann Chrisman is related to Gonce's family or not. She was b 10 Sep 1838 IN d 1925 Chillicothe, Livingston Co. MO. Her father was James b abt 1818 KY, mother Catherine (?) b abt 1820 OH. My guess is that Catherine's maiden name is either Brant, Wilson, or Chrisman, for the simple fact that the Brants and Chrismans especially intermarried in OH and on into MO. James was in Grundy Co. MO in 1850 Census, with Catherine and listed children besides Mary Ann as: Rebecca J. b abt 1840 IN Elizabeth Ellen "Hettie" b abt 1843 MO d abt 1881 Livingston Co. MO (more in a bit) Hannah b abt 1845 MO Jonathon b abt 1849 MO Hettie was married to William J. WILSON, a brother to my ggg grandfather, Johnathon Thomas WILSON (I'm not used to thinking of him that way, I'll send the story), who was my gg grandmother "Millie" Permilia WILSON's father (and Mary Ann CHRISMAN's husband). Then another of my ggg is another WILSON bro, David William WILSON, who was Millie's husband, Johnathon William WILSON. Confused yet? Three WILSON bros involved. William J., md to Hettie Chrisman; Johnaton Thomas md to Mary Ann Chrisman; and David William. who, while legally married to Catherine BRANT, supposedly had his children with a mysterious "Anna" CHRISMAN, who we can't find to document. Makes you wish that DNA Testing they're talking about would hurry up and get perfected. But then a saying I used to have when someone commented I was crazy, "Hey, my gg grandpa married his first cousin, and his grandson, my grandpappy, was half-Bull" might just be disproved...LOL Grandpa WILSON's mother's maiden name was Bull, BTW. Vonda

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