Pama and etc.... T. D. Thomas Dillard (or Dillard) Cummings, who md Betty Nash, was the son of James M. Cummings b Aug 1886 and Eliza ?. James was a son of Henrietta Mooney and Captain Vincent Cummings. As for the Pat Nash Drive, that's a new one on me. Allus wundered. You mightn't be able to get Elisha Nash into your line just yet. I've been trying to fit him in--I'm kin to Stan Dennis (we're twice cousins) and the High bunch--but ole Elisha is a mystery to me. Vonda ListMom for MOTaney and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/

Ok now group, ::heehee:: Tis the ole bat again out on the prowl itchin for some gossip on any Nashes. I have beena lookin and pokin every which way I can. So do any of you happen to know 1.Who is the mysterious Miss Harvey was that married Dave Nash in Stone Co.? Married in 1911. I even ask for them to send me a copy of the marriage and still can't make it out. 2. Who in the world did Thomas Dillard Cummings belong to, who was his parents? 3. Does anyone out there know Sam and Pat Nash? Sam is the son of Christopher David and Jessalee Nash. Uncle Sam owned the Nash Barber Shop in Branson for many years. Pat being the woman that they named Pat Nash drive in Branson after. CUZS of mine, but I have lost track of them. If so please e-mail me personally. I am trying to get ahold of them. 4. I am looking for someone with information about Alvina Parelee Nix that married William A. "Bud" Nash in Christian Co., MO on Dec 23 1878. 5. Who were E. P. D. Nash's parents, (I found out from Stan Dennis that the initials stand for Elisha Preston David). I was so thrilled. But now can't put him into my line yet. He married Eliza High June 29 1884 in Stone Co. "Ok I guess I will leave it at that, aaaaaaaaaallllllllllthooouuuuuggggghhhhhhhh, nah, I probably have gave you all a big headaches by now." <BG> Just hope that someone can help. STUBBORN OLE NASHES!!!! (That is me!) Warmest Smile, Pama Nash

Extremely well said, Vonda. Thank-you. Jan

Hey, There are pictures of the ancestors of the members of bigsmith, the band we're trying to get book for Outlaw Roundup. Many of y'all might find kin there, too. The site is http://www.bigsmithband.com Simpson Cupp's picture, down in Goodnight Holler, is here: http://www.bigsmithband.com/history.html there seems to be more. Greg is jest as impressed as all git out with the band, and the fact they are kin to purt' near ever'body. Music's purty good, too. Vonda ListMom for MOTaney and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/

> Hello All, > I have found this in the WRV site. It is of Free Inhabitants of Swan > Township > in Taney Co., MO. July 1860. A few of the names are Warren, > Haworth,Wheeler, > Gariner, Casey, Brown, Mooney, etc... Lots of info here. Hope it helps > someone. > http://198.209.8.166/wrvq/v1/n9/f63h.htm > > > > Warmest Smiles and Hugs for Cuzs, > Pama > > > > > >

Hi all! The address that Vonda has given http://www.woodmen.com/ is the correct one as shown in the response which I received from the Woodmen last August. I didn't get much information from them but was pleased to have that much more. It did take a while, and perhaps with so many people now accessing this type of information on line it will just take a little while longer. One must never give up hope, right. Look at how much information has come to light just since we have all become "computer active" with our genealogy. If all else fails, send them a snail mail request. The art of letter writing is not dead! Ann Minter Researching Hedrick and Mitchell in Taney County, Missouri and Stone County and vicinity, Arkansas

We are the new hillbilly. Generations removed from our original Ozarkian immigrant ancestors, we didn't necessarily grow up in a log cabin. We didn't attend school in a one-room school building (although some of our school districts weren't much bigger). We didn't attend worship services in the same school building, usually, unless it was a special reunion or dinner. Most of our roads are paved, and some have had the curves taken out. Electricity changed our parents' lives, but most of us don't remember going without for days, except during ice storms. Water wasn't gathered at the creek for drinking, but sent in to labs for testing from wells found by "water witches." Some of us only spent summer vacations and Christmas at "the old home place," the home of our grandparents and great-grandparents. That was when we learned about outhouses (if they didn't yet have indoor plumbing). That was when we learned to ride, both horses and tractors; we learned to put hay up, or help out at the family business; that was when we picked 'maters; caught fireflies and put them in old Mason jars with holes punched in the lids; went swimming in the creeks; and that was when we learned what poison ivy and sumac (often pronounced "shewmake") looked like, and that calomine pink qualified as a new skin tone. Each generation's exodus to the big cities for economic reasons also marked those who stayed behind. The feelings for extended family members didn't get lost, but did change. And as aunts, uncles, and cousins had to miss annual trips "back home", for various reasons, their own feelings changed. As I sit here, listening to classic 70s rock and looking south over land that my people and Greg's people knew well, I ponder these things and more. It is undoubtedly their voices guiding my pen--they're yelling over the music today. We, the descendants of those who defined hillbilly in the early 20th century, feel a common tug to the hills, hollers, and curved roads. Like those before us, some of us attend church for social reasons--in the busyness of life, there are times church is the only time to see friends and family. But most of us find the Creator in each curve of a road snaking up the bench of these ancient mountains. We find Him in each ridge sloping--or starkly dropping, as the case may be--down to the hollers. We rejoice in the different seasons, so that no two months affect our senses the same. We feel a sense of rightness in the creeks that flow, be they wet or dry weather creeks; their purpose is self-evident in the sycamores and other trees lining their banks, and the narrow valleys they've created. Some would call this communing with Nature, but it's more than a hike or a ride to the back forty. It doesn't matter who holds title to the land, as long as you're looking and admiring from afar--it's all ours, this scenery designed by Someone much smarter than those of us enjoying it. We sorrow every time the land is disrespected. In discussing it with another, we mention some landmark, some geological feature forever disfigured, some beloved building torn down; we feel the same sorrow and sense of loss for a few seconds. By the same token, we go together down the back roads, and not a word is said in our joy that we have this privilege of sharing what these things of our heritage bring us. These emotions are so deep, we often turn from it, both in feeling and in conversation. A people can only feel so much before the strength of the feelings destroy us--and we are generations-strong in survival heritage. We are beginning to recognize that much is gone, to be replaced by a new way of looking at things, a new way of life. But some things never change. We believe our children should work for what they want. These days, children don't necessarily work for their family's survival--but maybe they should. We believe that each hill, each valley is important. Curves in roads are there for a reason--straight roads cannot give you the same satisfaction that comes with successfully reaching a small village via the only road in, which climbed mountain shoulders and ran alongside creeks, crossing them as many times as necessary. We don't have to be a part of the rat race any more than we want to. We believe a person should do what is important to them, as long as it is responsible and non-interfering. We don't mess with another's belongings, in the belief that what goes around comes around. We like neighborhoods over subdivisions. We prefer bonfires on the creek banks, with a cooler of soda and/or beer and the car radio playing over the light shows, dancing and champagne found in "civilization." We want to be buried in the small, quiet cemeteries with century-old pillars and flowers whenever someone feels like visiting. We attend family gatherings and potlucks instead of socials with diamonds and silk. We don't have to have our name emblazoned on every surface to know we exist. We are computer-savvy, but our work clothes are usually made by Big Smith, Wrangler, and Levi Strauss, not Donna Karan, Escada, or Calvin Klein. We pick up arrowheads and fossils from creek banks, pick greens and boil sassafras from the hills, and we send emails to cousins in Japan or wherever their lives take them. We adopt personas for the people who don't "know" us, and can't really define what it is we show the people who do. Our ancestors sometimes believed "hillbilly" was a derogatory term. Most of us don't feel that way. We know the truth behind the word, and it is only fools that think the stereotype truly exists. If a person looks down on a hillbilly, we know that person is only seeing what we want him or her to see--and to our glee, they'll never know that we're gulling them. We are at the forefront of a new movement, a focus on who we are and how we came to be here. A belief is being born again, one that states that our past is important, and maybe it's time we stood up and said, "No more!" Some of us are slowly coming to realize that the value of our ancestral lands isn't determined by the price the highest timeshare builder can bid for it--the value is in the land just being there, a treasure to behold every season of the year, with a minimum of "use" by "progress." One tradition that we should no longer hold dear is our apparent passiveness and helplessness in the destruction of our past. That history is largely symbolic now, for the way of life our grandparents, even our parents, led is gone--and it can't be restructured or restored. We really don't want to lead it again, for the most part, for like them, we go about our lives finding a bridge between what we hold dear and what the future holds in store. But we are still here, tied to the land, and continuing to hold it in our hearts and our connections with each other. Don't you agree? It's about time. Vonda ListMom for MOTaney and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/

The homestead at SDC is the same homstead as I mentioned before. This I believe because the photos above the fireplace is a photo of my familiy members. The same photo is printed in a book tittled the Land of Taney Jerry Wyatt

My great great grandad was Alexander Kisee he married a duaghter of Polk McHaffie whos homestead is located on beaver creek. My grandad was James Knox Polk Wyatt a name sake of the same. Alexander Kisee was a captian in the civil war and the town of Kissee mills is named for him, as was the mill there that he opened after the war, located just north of beaver park. If this is the same McHaffies that are yours please write to me and we can trade info Thanks Jerry Wyatt

Ingrid - Thanks for the tip! I check out the article & printed it so I can read it offline. Now, I'll be spending alot of time in that "room" so I can check out all the other stuff on-line for overlaps in my families. ~gina~ Visit my homepage at http://hometown.aol.com/ginaburningsky/myhomepage/business.html

Gina: There's an article on the Casey family and the McHaffie homestead in the Spring 1964 WRVHS quarterly. You can access this online at http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/index.html Ingrid

Pama, Thank you for the site. This is not a complete cemetery listing as some of my family were not listed. I know they were buried there. It was probably just those directly related to McHaffie's. Thanks again, Shirley

In a message dated 01/18/2001 3:09:10 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Does anyone know if there is a transcription of the McHaffie Cemetery online? > My great-grandparents are buried there. I would like to know if they have > markers....etc. > Shirley, I am not sure that anyone sent this back to you, so if not here is the page with the McHaffie Cmt. on it. At the bottom is the transcription. http://198.209.8.166/wrvq/V8/N12/S85d.htm Warmest Smiles, Pama

Try this link for the IOOF. This is the best one I have found. http://128.125.109.137/IOOF.shtml Victoria Lou Brittain Allen

Gina and others... Y'know, I get so aggervated when companies change their services and stuff...I mean, I know they got the right, and that if I was really on top of things, I'd be checking the websites on at least a weekly basis to make sure links are all working, and fixing them if I can. However...most of the time, if a link isn't working, it's because the server that hosts the website is down for whatever reason...and you go back a few hours or days later, and it works. If it continues to NOT work, the reason is usually because a URL was changed, for whatever reason. So you delete the last part of the URL you have until you get to the website; meaning, if you delete the stuff between the last 2 "/whatever_is_here/" you can often get some idea of what's happened. In this case (and the link is fixed at "Rags, Scraps, and Patches" now), Woodmen of the World apparently is no longer offering member lookups via the Internet. I went through their whole website, and while interesting, couldn't find where you could request information on a long-dead ancestor. So you'll have to do it the old-fashioned way, and contact a local representative to see what kind of forms, etc., to fill out and send in. I imagine they offered the service via the Internet, not realizing that genealogy is the nation's 3rd most popular hobby, and simply got inundated. I know I sent in a request, and never got a response. You can go to http://www.woodmen.com/ and check out information on the organization's history, etc. There's even a place about their gravestones. Vonda ListMom for MOTaney and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/

This bunch? >>McKinney Benj F 31 Tn Belvaretta C 25 Mo Sarah E 14 " Wheeler Henry T 16 " Tippet Elizabeth 15 "<< The Belvaretta here is Belvaretta Casey b ca Dec 1843, d/o Levi Casey and Mary Haggard. She and Ben never had any children of their own, but raised a bunch of orphaned and other children. (That's what I was told). 'Bout any time you run into the name "Belvaretta" in the county, that child was named for Belvaretta Elvira Casey McKinney. Vonda ListMom for MOTaney and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gregvonda/

Hi Vonda - Thank goodness the new postings carry the old messages even if they are months old!!! This a.m.'s was regarding the Royal Friends & Woodmen of the World - but the following link was no good. Do you have another? > > Visit my homepage at http://hometown.aol.com/ginaburningsky/myhomepage/business.html <A HREF="http://burningskyenterprises.com/">Burningskyenterprises.com</A>

Well it sure helps to go through old mail that you know you want to reply to then find them months later while cleaning out some old mail. Victoria Brittain Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOTANEY] Re: hoo hoo--Woodmen's Insurance gen site > Hi Vonda - > Thank goodness the new postings carry the old messages even if they > are months old!!! > This a.m.'s was regarding the Royal Friends & Woodmen of the World - > but the following link was no good. Do you have another? > > > > > > > > Visit my homepage at > http://hometown.aol.com/ginaburningsky/myhomepage/business.html > <A HREF="http://burningskyenterprises.com/">Burningskyenterprises.com</A> > > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

In talking about the Woodsman of the World there was also a Insurnace company affiliated with them called the "Royal Neighbors". I have one of their magizines they put out in 1922 which lists A LOT of information about different states and names. It appears that this might of been the " womans " verson of Woodsman of the World as it is mostly ALL woman listed. A few even list the amount of money they were going to be paid. This Royal Neighbors is still in existance as I wrote them concerning my ggrandmother who belonged with them. Victoria Brittain Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Vonda Sheets <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: hoo hoo--Woodmen's Insurance gen site > Hey, > I'm re-typing up a paper written by a distant cousin (I sure wish Office > would acquire an Ozarkian dialect), got curious about someone's life > insurance in 1906, and started looking around. > > If you have an ancestor who was covered by Woodmen's Insurance (I know the > Woodmen are a fraternal organization, but not much else...were they a part > of the International Order of Oddfellows?), there is a website where you can > have them checked out at > > http://www.woodmen.com/memserch.htm > > > Boy howdy > > Vonda > > > ==== MOTANEY Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Thanks Ingrid. I think due to time frames, etc. we may never know the answer to this question for sure. ~gina~ Visit my homepage at http://hometown.aol.com/ginaburningsky/myhomepage/business.html <A HREF="http://burningskyenterprises.com/">Burningskyenterprises.com</A>