Thank you for tipping me to the death certs on line site. I found "her" the elusive ggmother! I am sitting by the mailbox until the copies come, and boy is the price right at 1.00 per! Some are view/print, too! I have been scanning for all the names: Norman, Frieze, Berry and Cloud. Also some "sidelines" Holloway, Underwood, Barnes and Yocum. My son says that genealogy is "video games for nerds" because I get so hooked in to it and have so much fun when making progress and cuss and fume when stymied, just like he does with his x-box. Janet Southall