In a message dated 2/4/2005 8:35:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Dear List, I have conflicting input on the Long family and need to sort out the mess so that my files will be correct. 1. 1860 Census Hh 341 list Calvin Long who supposedly died in 1862 during Civil War. I have his wife listed as Elizabeth Retina Bobbit. Children: James , John, Macela???. I also have a note that he m (2) Elizabeth Hatfield, but this cannot be correct. I also list him as being Joseph Calvin. Question: Who are his parents? 2. 1870 Wlms Hh 341 list Joseph Long age 60 from Ky. Wife: Elizabeth Hatfield. Children:Viana, William, J.Abner, Isaac H, Polly, Sallie, Nancy, Lucinda, Pamelia, Question: Isn't this Permelia the one that m Jackson Short? 3. 1870 Wlms Hh 342 living next door to Joseph Long is Sarah E Long, 37 with Children: George W and Sarah L both born in Ar. Question: Who do they belong to? 4. My files list Permelia Long & Mary Catherine Long as sisters, yet I can't seem to verify this. 5. Finally , To add to the confusion about Permelia Long, I was also told that she was the dau. of John Riley Long & Laura Henson. Final Question!! Who in the heck does Permelia C Long and Mary Catherine Long belong to!!!! I would appreciate any help in getting this Long line correct for Old Settlers! (no pun intended) Thanks, Robin Biddle Do you know of the existence of the "History of Stone Co" book? My Aunt, Velta nee Long Steele entered some of the information you are seeking in that book. If you are unable to obtain a copy, let me know and I will send you a copy of her (Velta's) notes, which she also gave to me. Eugene Hampton