Woo-hoo! I feel like I hit the lottery, my MO death certs arrived today! I figure only some fellow genealogists will understand how one could be so happy about death certs, but there you are! They came much more quickly than expected, only 5 weeks, so there's hope for those of you who were behind me in line. And yes, the elusive and much hunted ggmother Caroline Cloud is the daughter of Burwell Cloud and Sarah Samantha Goff. Opens up a whole new universe for me! Hip-hip-hurray! Janet