This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HALE, REDMAN, SANDERS, SHRUMS, McKINNEY, RICKETTS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XMB.2ACE/1590 Message Board Post: My g/m Alma May Hale Ricketts was born in Advance, Stoddard Co., MO in 1902. Her parents were John Henry Hale born 1860 in Jefferson Co., IL and Eva Jane Redman born abt. 1886 in Bell City, Stoddard Co., MO. Eva Jane was the d/o John Redman born 1854 IL, and Belzora/Belsora "Belle" Sanders abt. 1861 Stoddard Co., MO. Eva Jane shows up on the Stoddard Co., MO in 1880 as 2 years old. I believe she might have told a story about her age to my family. After all, if wasn't "nice" to ask a lady her age back then. I knew my g/grandma Eva, she died in 1960. John Redman had a brother, George Redman who married Belle Sanders sister, Sarah V. Sanders in Stoddard Co., MO. John and George were born in Carbondale, Jackson Co., IL. I think their father and mother were Caleb Redman born abt. 1820/25, NC and Rachel UKN. I also think Sarah V. and Belle's mother was Sarah "Polly" McKinney before she married Joseph Sanders. Her husband, Joseph Sanders died and she married Frederick Shrum in Stoddard Co., MO. 1850 census. I found Caleb Redman living in a Shrum h/h in (Stoddard Co?) MO 1850 census, 1860 he is living in Carbondale, IL with wife Rachel, sons John and George, and dau. Lucinda. 1870 Caleb still in Carbondale with wife, Rachel, sons John, George, and dau. Lucinda. John and George living in Stoddard Co., MO 1880 census, both married to the above Sanders, Sarah V. and Belle. 1880 no census found for Caleb, Rachel, or Lucinda. Also, Caleb Redman was in the Civil War, enlisted in IL. John Henry Hale s/o of James Henry Massey Hale, s/o John Henry Hale (they all lived in Southern IL). The Hale family came out of TN and moved to IL. My g/m always told me she had Sanders, Redmans, and McKinneys in her ancestry. She died in 1999 at the age of 97 with a SUPER SHARP memory. I wish I had asked her for more information. I think the Sanders, Redmans, Hales, and Shrums all (or most) had all lived in Southern IL and migrated to MO. Do you have this family in your files? If you need more info. I can supply dates, etc. I typed all this from memory, so I hope I got the dates correct. Thanks so much, Claudette (Ricketts) Pfingston claud@sigecom.net