This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KayFakhar Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stoddard/441.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Phyllis, hello again. You were so kind to help me with the below posting back in 2003, and I wanted to ask if you recalled where you located this information. Too much time may have passed for you to remember, but I thought it was worth a try. Tilson and Elizabeth Sutherland's marriage did take place in Bollinger Co., MO, license dated Jan 14, 1885, marriage Jan 15, 1885 and filed Jan 17, 1885. However, on this license, Elizabeth's name was listed as Elizabeth Stemm, not Mary Elizabeth Stevens. Since Elizabeth was over the age of eighteen, her father's name isn't recorded. I'm curious as to where the father's name, Garrett Stevens came from. If you recall where you located it, I would really like to submit a correction so that it can be noted for others. There was a Garrett Stevens in Bollinger at this time, who had a daughter the same age, named Mary Elizabeth. I've collected various records on this family (Stevens-SC / Ramsey-NC). It did appear as though it could have been the correct family. As it turns out, however, Garrett Stevens is not the father of Tilson Sutherland's wife, Elizabeth. Elizabeth Sutherland died in Stone Co., MO and was buried in Butler Co., MO where Tilson was buried. Her death cert lists her name as Mary Francis, and her father's name was Christian Stamm. I dug a little deeper, and managed to put a few things together on her STAMM family, if you are interested. Thank you again VERY much for you help! -Kay, FL MehdiFakhar@aol.com 1860 District 2, McCracken, Kentucky Godfred STAMP 30 Bavaria Caroline Stamp 27 Bavaria Huntsel Lovemaster 10 Bavaria Lewis Lovemaster 8 Bavaria John Lovemaster 6 KY Elizabeth Stamp 1 KY It looks like the LOVEMASTER individuals may have immigrated in 1854, the same year as Godfried Christian STAMM - perhaps these are his sister's children? The youngest was born in KY, so the mother must have immigrated with them. I used every various/soundex spelling that I can think of, [luev,luew,loev,loew,luv,lov,l*meister...germany/bavaria]but the name can't be found other than in this 1860 census. [Maybe I should have tried variations of Gigolo(-:] 1880 Lorance, Bollinger, Missouri Christian Stamm 1830  Ger Self Farmer [immigrated 1854Caroline Stamm  1833  Ger Wife [nee: Scheafer; died 3/31/1917; immigrated 1841]Elizabeth Stamm 1859 KY Daughter [married Tilson Sutherland] Albert Stamm    1866  MO Son [married #1 Caroline Unk; married #2 Lilly FunkieCaroline Stamm  1868  MO Daughter Emma Stamm      1870  MO DaughtSusan Stamm     1872  MO DaughtDena Stamm      1874  MO DaughtLetha Stamm     1875  MO Daught Pending Questions: Who did Caroline, Emma, Susan, Dena and Letha marry? Christian STAMM - Civil WAR Union Residence: Patterson MO  (Wayne Co., MO) Enlisted as Private on Feb 2, 1865 Co K. 7th Calvary Reg Kansas - May 3, 1865 Mustered out Sept 29, 1865 1900 Lorance, Bollinger, Missouri (Living Alone) Christopher Stamm 70 GER farmer [immigrated 1854] Note: Wife, Caroline, is living with son, Albert & his family --->ALBERT STAMM: 1900 Lorance, Bollinger, Missouri Albert Staman Nov1865 MO White Head Caroline Staman Dec 1875 Ohio White Wife Alma Staman May 1895 MO White Daughter Edna Staman Feb 1897 MO White Daughter Elmer Staman Feb 1899 MO White Son Caroline Staman Feb 1832 Ger White Mother [immigrated 1841] 1910 Lorance, Bollinger, MO Albert Staum 1867 MO Head GER GER Lillie Staum 1889 MO Wife [nee: Funkie] Alma Staum   1896 MO Daughter [married Irven Emanuel EAKER] Edna Staum 1898 MO Daughter Elmer Staum 1901 MO Son Mildred Staum 1905 MO Daughter Myrtle Staum 1906 MO Daughter Linus Staum 1909 MO Son  1920 Lorance, Bollinger, Missouri A H Stamn    abt 1862 KY  Head GER GLily Stamn    abt 1888 MO Wife Elmer Stamn   abt 1902 MO Son [married Altha FORD] Mildred Stamn abt 1904 MO Daughter Myrtle Stamn abt 1906 MO Daughter Linus Stamn abt 1909 MO Son [died 10/1922-thrown off horse] Everett Stamn abt 1913  MO Son [married Norma Marie JONES] Paul Stamn abt 1915 MO Son Douglas Stamn abt 1916 MO Son Roy Stamn  abt 1919 MO Son Pending questions: Who did Mildred, Myrtle, Linus, Paul, Douglas, Roy, Pauline, Eulene, Oscar and Marion marry?  1930 Lorance, Bollinger, MO Albert H Stamm 1865 KY Head [died June 1943 Bollinger Co.] Lilly F Stamm 1887   Wife Evert D Stamm 1912   Son Paul L Stamm 1915   Son Dauglas E Stamm 1918 Son Roy E Stamm 1920 Son Pauline E Stamm 1922  Daughter Eulene F Stamm 1924  Daughter Oscar M Stamm 1926  Son Marion A Stamm 1928  Son ----------------------------------- Re: 1910/1920 Census information needed - SUTHERLAND PhyllisSnook Posted: 3 Jul 2003 6:43AM GMT Classification: Query Surnames: Tilson M. SUTHERLIN Born: Abt 1862 Place: Mo Married: 15 Jan 1885 Place: , Bollinger, Mo Wife's Name Mary Elizabeth STEVENS Born: 1862 Place: Mo Married: 15 Jan 1885 , Bollinger, Mo Father: Garrett STEVENS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.