Diane, Thank you so much for the name and websites. I will definitely check these out. I have researched Jackson, Lafayette, Boone and Howard but never made it to St. Louis. It is now on make summer travel list. Thank you again. Linda -----Original Message----- From: mostloui-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mostloui-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:26 PM To: mostloui@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOSTLOUI] MO libraries-good steamboat resources On 2/7/2011 3:00 AM, mostloui-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Linda, I have forwarded your request to Dennis Northcutt who is a VERY helpful genealogical resource to people researching St. Louis ancestors. Dennis is an archivist at the Missouri History Library. If anyone would know, he would know. The web address for the library is: http://www.mohistory.org/lrc-home/ There are lots of searchable collections there and a good "genealogy links" page. Also the Mercantile library, part of the University of Missouri at St. Louis has an extensive collection regarding St. Louis steamboats. I don't know if they have passenger lists, but they should be able to lead you in the right direction. http://www.umsl.edu/pott/pguides/names.htm Here is a list of searchable collections at the Mercantile Library: http://www.umsl.edu/mercantile/special_collections/searchable-finding-aids.h tml I hope this helps Diane Shaw > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:37:16 -0600 > From: "Linda Leatherwood"<lwood45@att.net> > Subject: [MOSTLOUI] Steamboats in 1817-1818 > To:<mostloui@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<000501cbc678$5101aab0$f3050010$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know of information that can be researched regarding passengers > on the steamboats that arrived in St. Louis in 1817-1818? I am assuming > those that arrived would have to then take overland travel to arrive in > Howard County. I discovered the Missouri River did not have steamboats on > it until 1819. > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTLOUI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2/7/2011 3:00 AM, mostloui-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Linda, I have forwarded your request to Dennis Northcutt who is a VERY helpful genealogical resource to people researching St. Louis ancestors. Dennis is an archivist at the Missouri History Library. If anyone would know, he would know. The web address for the library is: http://www.mohistory.org/lrc-home/ There are lots of searchable collections there and a good "genealogy links" page. Also the Mercantile library, part of the University of Missouri at St. Louis has an extensive collection regarding St. Louis steamboats. I don't know if they have passenger lists, but they should be able to lead you in the right direction. http://www.umsl.edu/pott/pguides/names.htm Here is a list of searchable collections at the Mercantile Library: http://www.umsl.edu/mercantile/special_collections/searchable-finding-aids.html I hope this helps Diane Shaw > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:37:16 -0600 > From: "Linda Leatherwood"<lwood45@att.net> > Subject: [MOSTLOUI] Steamboats in 1817-1818 > To:<mostloui@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<000501cbc678$5101aab0$f3050010$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know of information that can be researched regarding passengers > on the steamboats that arrived in St. Louis in 1817-1818? I am assuming > those that arrived would have to then take overland travel to arrive in > Howard County. I discovered the Missouri River did not have steamboats on > it until 1819. > > > > ------------------------------ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bhawk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/4726.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So sorry that I can't be of any help. The only Hafleys that I have listed were born, lived and died in Missouri. They were George W. Hafley (1859-1912), Daniel Hafley (1886-1948, he was George's som), Clifford Hafley (1909-1966, he was Daniel's son) and George Washington Hafley (1911-1998). Jan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tomspoetry11 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/4726.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George Thomas Hafley was my grandfather. His father's name was Henry Hafley. I am looking for any info you might have on either of them. I was 8 years old when he died. I have more info on him if it could help. He lived next door to me during his last years and I spent time with him almost daily. He was a farmer in Chelsea, Michigan. If I could help you, please let me know. If you have any info that could help me with the Hafley family line, I would be very grateful... Thank you, Thomas Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: SILVERNAIL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10434/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On August 31,2008 there was a chemical explosion in E. Saint Louis, Jim Silvernail, firechief, would like to contact Mr. Silvernail, updating the Silvernail Family Record Book. Dorris djssmith@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cralmstedt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10433.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only thing I can add : Nick as informant on Karam's d. cert. shows his address in his handwriting as "730 S. 2nd" while the address listed for Karam is in a different handwriting but the same. So it appears there should be a relationship--uncle? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChrisBitner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10433.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Thomas, Karam Hydar was born in Lebanon in 1832 and died in St. Louis in 1917. His death certificate is found under Karen Hyder. That's the right census for him. he's also in the 1910 census as Hyder Karam. Nicholas's death certificate has him born in 1873 in Armenia but census records have Syria. My aunt, Karam's granddaughter, says Karam had 3 children, Isaac, Sadie, and another daughter who stayed in Lebanon. She's pretty sure she would remember having an uncle Nick. Thanks for trying to help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cralmstedt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10433.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: When & where did Karam die? Which Census place & year? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChrisBitner Surnames: Hydar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10433/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on the Hydar family of St. Louis, particularly Nicholas Hydar(1873-1950) He's listed as the informant on my 3rd great-grandfather Karam Hydar's death certificate but I can't figure out how they're related. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kg0279 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10432.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you both. I subsequently found an obit that refers me to St. Francis Xavier but I have also contacted the Archives and Records office at the diocese so hopefully something will turn up! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lorainemiller Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10432.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You also might try the St. Louis Archdiocese. They will have the records of parishes that have been closed as well. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone know of information that can be researched regarding passengers on the steamboats that arrived in St. Louis in 1817-1818? I am assuming those that arrived would have to then take overland travel to arrive in Howard County. I discovered the Missouri River did not have steamboats on it until 1819.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kg0279 Surnames: Keefe, Cahill, Cullen, Inkley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10431.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This help was fantastic, thank you. Jennie and Matt Keefe buried at the same plot. Here deatch certificate from the State archives gives the informant as Mrs S. C. Inkley [Mrs. Samuel Carter Inkley] who was Marie Cullen in the 1910 census and later married Samuel Carter Inkley appearing in the 1920/30 census. I lose Jennie on the 1930 census. It at least gives me some other avenues. Unfortunately still haven't been able to find a marriage record for Jennie and Matt despite now having the Cahill reference. Also need to tie up the Marie Cullen link as being a "niece". Matt's death certificate or marriage certificate might nail the link back to Ireland for me. Trying to get the obit copies. Nevertheless - making progress! Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ebarwick1 Surnames: Campbell, Harris, Turney Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10421.8.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much for your reply. Fortunately, a friend of mine located some of the JB files on Ancestry.com but she had a heck of a time finding them. FYI, they were on Ancestry under Returns from U.S. Military Posts, 1800-1916: Rolls 0501-0600 : Huntsville, AL Through Larned, Fort, KS > Jefferson Barracks, MO > Jan 1889-Dec 1897. We also learned that my ancestor died at Ft. Bayard in 1906 from TB. After learning so much about JB, I would love to visit it. Thanks for your report on the ground! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rab10ac Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10421.8/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, not sure if you have recieved any info on Jefferson Barracks. J.B. as it is also known, is a military base and also a National Cemetary. I do not think the base is active anymore or if it is just for general use, Anyone is able to enter and there is no security there so I assume it is just miltary offices at this time, You can find out if Charles Campbell is buried there, and if so it what area of the cemetary.The Cemtary has all this info in their files.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cralmstedt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10431.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: P. S. On Genevieve's d. cert, 7/31/1946, Her father = John J. Cahill. On his d. cert, 10/22/1913, she is the "informant", Mrs. M. J. Keefe, residing at 3706 Washington. In the 1910 Census, her father lives there as a "boarder". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cralmstedt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10431.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pretty much exhausted the sites, but--at Calvary Cemetery, STL MO : Sec 21, lot 1579--Genevieve (Jennie ?) Okeefe, buried 8/3/1946, 72 yrs. (= b. 1874); Mathew Okeefe, 7/28/1915, 49, = b. 1866 (Obit. STLPost-Dispatch, 7/27,p.15). Calvary @ Ancestry : O'Keefe doesn't work. Send for obits. W/Catherine (Cahill) Seevers, 1/27/1964, 79, = b. 1885 (obit 1/25, p.8A. and Harvey Seevers, 2/11/1953. This is a stretch, but no death information found so they could have died elsewhere or moved from other plots or nothing. Suggest you write Calvary about them as well as the lot purchaser. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mouseRN1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10429.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank You, that clears up the thought of "two St. Louis in one." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cralmstedt Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10432.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sanborn fire Insurance map 9/1909 shows the St. Francis Xavier ("College") R. C. Church at Grand & Lindell (3628 Lindell). GoogleEarth shows about it 1/4 mile from 3706 Washington Blvd. (straight line). My R. C. days--I think folks were married at the bride's church, so you might pursue that church also ("his marriage"). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kg0279 Surnames: Keefe Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.stlouis/10431.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for taking the time John. Unfortunately as you suggest, the records that you have indicated don't tie up. I'd like to find the marriage record but can't find anything for 1898 St. Louis (as in the 1910 census) but have turned up nothing - a military record suggests that Matt was in the infantry before he was married and so they weren't necessarily married in St. Louis. Thanks anyway Regards Kevin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.