This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4618.1 Message Board Post: Dear Sandie, Have you been able to find them on the 1930 census at all? If they lived in St. Louis, ask for a lookup in the city directories at the ST. Louis Public LIbrary. I think from about 1920 on, the wife's name was usually listed with her husband's. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm Found a Fannie Skobel 62/W/F/Divorced (had a W there which was crossed out-at least the way that I read it. She is in Los Angeles City, Los Angeles County, CA. ED1591 according to ancestry. The original numbers were crossed out. Born in Siberia-parents same, speaks Russian, immigrated in 1890. Owns her home worth $5000, no occupation. I cannot read the street name. Couldn't find Ivan.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4619.1 Message Board Post: Dear Sandie, Try the St. Louis Public Library for a look up in the city directory. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm You can email a request-see item # 13. Georgia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4620.1 Message Board Post: Dear Jeanne, Maybe Bellefontaine Cemetery? http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/dlcem.htm Try the ST. Louis Public Library for the death record-see item #5 and then #13 to email a request: http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm You could ask them about the cemeteries since they have city directories that go back to 1821.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4620 Message Board Post: According to 1853 probate records, the estate of Franklin Paine Morrow purchased a "1st class lot" at BFC. They also sent the "overcase", hearse, and 8 carriages to BFC. The total came to $105. I am wondering which cemetery "BFC" is? I would like to find a death record so I can find his date of birth. Thanks, Jeanne

Hi all - I'm new to the list and have recently learned that some of my ancestors traveled from Allegheny County, PA to St. Louis City, St. Louis, MO sometime between 1857-1862. The family I am searching for is: William I. Henry b. 1825 in PA married Mary C. Barr b. abt 1828 in PA Their children were: 1. William B. Henry b. 1849 d. 1850 in PA 2. Rachel Henry b. abt 1851 in PA married Archibald McMurtry Feb 19, 1878 in St. Louis MO Their Children were: Ada McMurtry b. 1875 in MO and Grace McMurtry b. 1879 who married William Hassenpflug about 1895 in MO 3. Margaret Barr Henry b. 1853 in PA 4. Robert Henry b. 1855 in PA 3. Joshua John Henry b. 1857 in PA died August 8, 1866 in St Louis, St Louis, MO - he is buried in Wesleyan Cemetery, St. Louis 4. Henry (Harry) M. Henry b 1862 in MO married Addie K. Barron on May 6, 1885 in St. Louis Their children were: Margaret Henry b. 1887 in MO, Oliver B. Henry b. 1888 d. 1962 in MO. Oliver married Helen Doerflinger about 1914. Thier children were Oliver B. Jr (Married Mary Harrel) and Helen Henry (married Burdick Burtch). George N. Henry b. 1890 MO Mary C. Henry b. 1899 MO Adelia Henry b. 1902 MO 5. Mary K. Henry b. 1865 in MO Anyone have any connections to this family? Would love to share information with you! Amy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/3518.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Deborah, but I didn't make a connection. Thanks, anyway........Jim

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Skobel, Goodman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4619 Message Board Post: Does anyone know about the Russian Bath Houses in St. Louis Missouri about 1910?? Sandie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Skobel, Goodman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4618 Message Board Post: Looking for any information on Ivan and Fannie Skobel in St. Louis. Ivan married Anna Goodman in 1923. He was 55, she was 45, (Approximately) I don't know if Fannie died or he divorced her. He may have been a Professor according to the 1920 census. Sandie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4617 Message Board Post: Can someone please help me? I would like to be able to find a birth certificate for my great great grandfather James Hampton Roberts. All I know is that he was born in St Louis USA before moving here to Canada. If you can let me know where I would look for a birth certificate for around 1857 that would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4615.1 Message Board Post: Try the online index to obits/burial permits (item # 8) at the St. Louis Public Library. You can email a request for copies if you find something-see item # 13. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4616.1 Message Board Post: Dear Margie, If they stayed in St. Louis, you might want to check the obit index at the St. Louis Public Library as well as some of the other things that are available. You can email your request to the library by clicking on WebRef (see item #13) http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm If the family was Catholic, you could try the Catholic Cemeteries of the Archdiocese online. Right now I was having a problem connecting. http://www.stlcathcem.com/ One of my favorite websites for genealogy in St. Louis belongs to Dave Lossos: http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ Georgia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4613.2 Message Board Post: I found records in the City of St. Louis Death Register for Henry, Maria and their eldest son, George. The names are as spelled in the Register. Henry Kittelgardes, Vol 26, Pg 601 d. 28 Jan 1892 Interred Mt Olive Cemetery Maria Kettlegardes, Vol 37, Pg 284 d. 18 Mar 1899. St Mary’s Infirmary Valv. Disease of Heart Interred Mt Olive (Catholic) Cemetery George Kettelgardes d. 2 Mar 1902, Alexian Bros. Hospital Strangulation from hanging, dementia, suicide Interred Mt Olive Cemetery On the Catholic Cemeteries web site http://www.stlcathcem.com/ I found interment records for Elizabeth (with her sisters and in-laws) and Henry (Jr) but not Henry (Sr), Maria or George. Mt Olive Cemetery Sec 1 Lot 571 CHARLES CUDD M Feb 16 1938 80 MARGARET CUDD F Jul 21 1923 24 ANNA DIETZ F Jul 19 1926 53 ELIZABETH KETTLEGARDES F Dec 23 1915 37 ELNOR REINARMAN F Apr 24 1917 40 Resurrection Cemetery Sec 12 Lot 812 HENRY KETTLEGARDES M Dec 29 1959 70 KATHERINE KETTLEGARDES F Mar 04 1942 52 An obit is listed in the St. Louis Public Library Index http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/obit.htm for Elizabeth and Katherine. They will furnish a copy for a nominal charge. Elizabeth Kettlegardes 21 Dec 1915 pg 21 Kettlegarden, Katherine (nee Wirth) 3/2, *3/5 1942 Ancestry.com Civil War Pension Index records case file numbers for pension application by Henry (invalid), Maria (widow), and George (as guardian for 9-year-old Henry Jr). If you do not have these files and wish to request them, I can provide the file numbers. Hope this helps fill in some of the blanks .............

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4609.2.1 Message Board Post: Thank you very much for you thoughtful reply Georgia, I will have much reading up to do to learn about the St. Louis area. A lady from the Library had already contacted me regarding my post offering to do a look-up for a nominal fee for the death record I found. So hopefully that will prove out that he is my relative and I'll have some solid avenue to pursue. It's been difficult to piece it all together from sketchy bible records, but I'm slowly making progress. Thanks again!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: mccabe Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4616 Message Board Post: i am looking for any info on terrence mccabe , his wife barbara or elizabeth, their children terrence and anna they lived at 1237 lucas st. in st. louis city in the late 1800s they are found in the 1870 census and 1880 census

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4614.1 Message Board Post: 1900>Missouri>St. Louis>11wd St. Louis Costley John F. head mar. 1869 31 M9yrs Scottland Rosie wife may 1871 29 N.Y. Lizzie D Apr. 1892 8 MO. Rosie D Jan. 1894 6 MO. John S June 1897 2 MO. Pert Eles m/in/law ? 1830 70 England 1910>Missouri>St. Louis>12wd St. Louis Costley John head 42 M1 18yrs scot. Rose wife 39 N.Y. elizabeth M. D 17 Mo. rose jr.D 16 MO. John Jr. S 12 MO. George S 9 MO. Charles S 5 MO. Wallace S 3 MO. Margaret D 11/12 MO. Pert Elizabeth M/in/law 80 Wd. English Hope this Helps. Michele

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Newton, Lester, Jones, Smith, Green, Woolley Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4615 Message Board Post: Henry Pert and spouse Elizabeth Pert nee NEWTON, born 1830's in England Black Country (Steel Industry area) married 1854. Census 1880 with daughter Rosa in St. Louis.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Newton, Lester, Smith, Green, Jones Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4614 Message Board Post: Rosa Pert born 1870, Troy, New York.... to Father Henry Pert and Mother Elizabeth Pert nee NEWTON both born England 1830s. Have census return of 1870 in St. Louis. Rosa's siblings Elizabeth and Mary still in Troy, NY ?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4609.2 Message Board Post: From Dave Lossos' website: Holy Ghost Evangelical and Reformed Cemetery - OC-Mo SLGS Vol. 4. StLMO:, 1982. Holy Ghost Evangelical Cemetery - STLGSQ: Vol. IX, No. 4 (Dec. 1976) by Mabel Faatz - "Holy Ghost or "Old Picker's" at Compton-Wyoming-Louisiana-Arsenal Sts. was opened in 1845 as the Holy Ghost Evangelical Cemetery but for most of the time was better known as "Old Picker's" since that was the name of the church's pastor at the time the cemetery was opened. The city has ordered this cemetery closed several times but the ordinance was not enforced until 1917. Records of this cemetery may be found at Holy Ghost Church, now on Mardel Avenue. {This is not the same as the cemetery on Gravois.)" Comments from Art Robinson (4/7/2001): Holy Ghost cemetery records are at Eden seminary library, archives section, Webster Groves. Dave's website about genealogy in St. Louis which I consider one of the best for information and links. http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ St. Louis Public Library which has a lot of information and will make copies for a very reasonable fee. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/library.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4613.1 Message Board Post: Request a copy of the death register from the St. Louis Public Library. The one's that I have show the cemetery. See item #5 -vital records and then #13 has the email link. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm Their names did not appear on the Post Dispatch Obit Index but the library has other newspapers. You might want to request a lookup in the other papers. There were some Kettlegardes on the Catholic Cemetery Index but not yours. These are cemeteries owned by the Archdiocese. If the family was Catholic and buried in a cemetery owned by a church, they would not appear on this index from what I understand. http://www.stlcathcem.com/ Any possibility that they are buried back in Illinois is a family plot? One of my favorite St. Louis websites for genealogy: http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bacon, Blize, Blythe Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4429.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have some Land Patent details that I'm working on. Nataniel Bacon (wife Elizabeth) 1845 will probated. Administrators were William Bacon and Abner Blize. In 1860 census for Edward Bacon - also known as Nathaniel - wife Lucinda with six children listed and 22 year old John Blize and 56 year old Maria also living there. I am thinking that John Blize is related to the above Abner. Perhaps the first named Nathaniel is the father of Nathaniel Edward. I think Blize is a family name from Lucinda though her marriage records of 1849 list her as Blythe.