This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rosa Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/2365.2370 Message Board Post: I may be able to help you. My father was a Rosa. They were mostly from Shannon & Reynolds Co's. They settled in the St. Louis area where my g-ma passed a few years ago. Don't know if this is the same line you are looking into, if so, feel free to contact me via my personal e-mail. j_knee_d@yahoo.com Janie D.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4764.2 Message Board Post: Dear Dave, Not sure that getting a copy of the civil record of the marriage would help but see following for information http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/recorder.htm#marr A church record might have more information such as the name of the parents. Were they Catholic or Church of England? Catholic Church records were microfilmed by the Mormon church. You might want to look at Dave Lossos' website which has a lot of genealogical "stuff" regarding St. Louis City and County. http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ As well as the ST. Louis Public Library: http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm You might want to ask the public library about the marriage record first, It would be less expensive. St. Louis County Library: http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/res-pro.htm The family appears on the 1860 census in the 8th district? Ben R Crunden 41 b. England Mary 34 b. England Fred (?) male 14 b. England Frank male 1 b. Missouri Mary appears on the 1880 census with sons Fred and Frank. Census shows that Fred was born in England but Frank was born in Missouri. Mary was born in England as was her mother; father born in Wales. No Benjamin with family. Found Mary, Fred and Frank on the 1870 census. No Benjamin. So Benjamin either died between the two censuses or left the family. Cannot find Mary or Frank on the 1900 census but Frank is most likely mistranscribed since he appears on the 1910 census. You might want to take a look at the city directories that are available at the SL Public Library as well as checking the index for obits. If you request any items from the library, group your requests separately-all obits in one email, all city directories in another. Seems odd that the oldest son was born in England but that Benjamin and Mary married here unless they didn't get married in England or they married outside of the church and wanted to get married in church when they were in St. Louis. Since you are in England, can you tell me how to find Catholic churches in England, some where around Yorkshire-not real sure about this. Georgia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4765.1.1 Message Board Post: An obituary date is found in the St. Louis Public Library Index http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/obit.htm Kuttner, Pauline 2/12 p(age)15 [1913] Contact the St. Louis Public Library for a copy of the obit/death notice. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grunauer Kuttner Newmann Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4765.1 Message Board Post: Checking the IGI, I see that I made a mistake . She dies in 1913 not 1906. Apparently, she also married in about 1875 to a S. Kuttner, so the Obit may likely be under KUTTNER

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grunauer Newman Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4765 Message Board Post: I am seeking death information on Pauline GRUNAUER a German born immigrant who lived for some time in Cincinnati, Ohio. She is born about 1849. An LDS- IGI record states that she dies in St. Louis Is there an index of deaths that can be checked? Or an OBits file? Thank you.

Hi Everyone, Kathy Smith from St. Louis Public Library. I would like to invite you to a free genealogy class that we are offering. The class is "Making Sense of the Census: Finding Your Ancestors in Census Reports." We will be joined by special guest Dennis Northcott of the Missouri Historical Society, who will be sharing his expertise with us. The program will cover how to make the best use of Federal censuses, as well as what can be found in state, local, and special censuses, what exists, and where it can be found. Mr. Northcott will focus on the MHS holdings, while SLPL staff will look at materials for other states as well as Federal censuses and census substitutes. If you've ever had a question about censuses, now is the time to ask! The program is scheduled for Saturday, November 13, from 10AM to Noon at Central Library, 1301 Olive Street downtown. The program is free and open to the public; you do not need to be a resident of the city or have a library card to attend. Parking is free. Registration is strongly suggested. Please call (314) 539-0385 or email me at mailto:ksmith@slpl.lib.mo.us for registration or further information. Hope to see you there! Sincerely, Kathleen J. Smith Librarian History & Genealogy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crunden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4764.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Michele I saw this as well and was a bit unsure about it. The marriage of Benjamin to Mary in St Louis was in 1842. It seems rather strange that there would be two Benjamin Robert CRUNDENs both coming from England to St Louis, and both having a Mary as a wife. (The name CRUNDEN is quite unusual). Unless they married in St Louis, returned to England for a short time, and then went back to St Louis. A real puzzle!! Thanks for your interest. Dave

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4764.1 Message Board Post: Dave, I found this info. in a book, there was a Fredrick Morgan Crunden son of Benjamin R. Crunden and Mary (Morgan) Crunden resided at gravesend, at the mouth of River Thames in England where on Sept.1, 1848, Fredrick was born. The one thing that dosen't match is mary's maiden name, but thought I would let you know anyway. hope this helps. Michele

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: crunden Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4764 Message Board Post: I have lost Benjamin Robert CRUNDEN. (son of my 5 x great uncle) He was born 12th March 1819 in London, England, and baptised 20th February 1820 at St Mary's, Marylebone Street, London. His father was Robert CRUNDEN and his mother was Elizabeth (Russell) CRUNDEN. No further trace here in England. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My question is: how do I prove whether the following details relate to the same man? 1850 United States Federal Census Name: Benjamin Crunden Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: 1818 Birth Place: England Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): St Louis Ward 5, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri Page: 263 Roll: M432_417 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- St. Louis, Missouri Marriages, 1804-76 Name: Benjamin R Crunden Spouse: Mary Colemire Marriage Date: 4 June 1842 Volume/Page: 03-005 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- St. Louis, Missouri Directories, 1889-1890 Name: Mary Crunden, widow Benjamin R. Location 2: r. 1803 S. Compton avenue Year: 1890 City: St. Louis State: MO ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many thanks for any ideas Dave Dixon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cunningham, Ezell, Selsvold Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4763 Message Board Post: Source: "The Stewart-Houston Times" Newspaper, a bi-county newspaper for both Stewart County and Houston County in Tennessee. Date of Newspaper: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 Page: A-3 Name: Wallace Burton Cunningham Age: 69 Born: June 8, 1935 in Stewart County, Tennessee Died: Thursday, September 30, 2004 in Ballwin, St. Louis County, Missouri Funeral: Monday, October 4, 2004 with Schrader Funeral Home Burial: Heflin Cemetery, Stewart County, Tennessee Parents: Basil Cunningham and Ethelyne (Ezell) Cunningham Surviving Spouse: Barbara (Queen) Cunningham Deceased Children: Tony Cunningham Surviving Children: Jill Cunningham, Laurie Cunningham Surviving Siblings: Gaines "Sonny" Cunningham, Doug Cunningham, Bonnie Selsvold Anyone interested in a copy of the full and original obituary please contact me at kaitysmom@peoplestel.net for details.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Williamson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4762 Message Board Post: I am looking for family or friends of Hubert Williamson who lived on N. Kingshighway, St Louis MO. in 1936. He is the brother to my grandmother and I am trying to find info on thier parents. I believe Hubert was born near Dade Co. around late 1880's. If anyone could help, please contact me at judurham@fuse.net Thank you, Juanita

While researching my family (KRALMAN, KOEBBE, SCHULTE) in Sts. Peter and Paul Cemetery in St. Louis, I found something that I don't understand. Mary KATASCHWUK was buried in the family plot (Section 29, Lot 13E) and I have no idea of her connection to my family. The date of her burial is November 16, 1916. I'm hoping someone else on this mailing list is researching the KATASCHWUK surname and can enlighten me. Linda (in Arizona) "All incoming and outgoing email is scanned by Norton's Anti-Virus, updated daily".

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bridgeman, Miller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/1048.1421.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your info. William Garvey Bridgeman Jr. (b. 1910, d. 1976) was my cousin. His mother, Effie Miller Bridgeman (b. 1891) was the elder sister of my father. For your Willie Bridgeman Jr. (b. 1925, d. 1992) to have been the SON of my cousin, it would have been a tight squeeze - but entirely possible! I have the death certificate of Wm. Garvey Bridgeman Jr that says he was a divorced insurance salesman, but it contains no info box about ex-wife's name or any offspring. If you can tell me how to attain his offspring information from his SS number, I would love to follow that lead. Also, does your Willie Bridgeman Jr. have any offspring? What's the date of birth-death on your Mary Bridgeman of St. Louis who died at age 4 months?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4715.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the info. I'll look into it and see if I can get lucky. Anita

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WASHBURN, CAVANAUGH, CORN, MORMAN, BRADBURY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4761 Message Board Post: In my quest for parents for my great grandfather Robert E. WASHBURN b 1864 MO--d 1910 in St. Louis (Robert Edward Lee Washburn) I am searching for info re Thomas---and a Richard WASHBURN. In particular, THOMAS J. WASHBURN and RICHARD C. WASHBURN, in business in St. Joseph, MO late 1800s. They were in the music business---the same profession as my Robert E. WASHBURN in St. Louis from about 1886-1910--and I think there was a family relationship. Robert E. WASHBURN lived in Green County, Springfield---from at least 1870 and had a 1st married in 1885 to an ANNIE MORMAN in Springfield. They divorced in 1888 according to an online Green County record. He was at the same time, writing and publishing his music in St. Louis, MO. Below are records I have collected, listed in St. Joseph City Directory online records . . . THOMAS J. WASHBURN--AND RICHARD C. WASHBURN . . . . .I have collected records from city directories for several Washburns, including Thomas and Richard who seem to have worked together---in a music type business. RICHARD C. WASHBURN, T. J. WASHBURN, clerk r. 1018 Ridenbaugh Saint Joseph MO --1887 THOMAS J. WASHBURN pianos, organs and musical merchandise 603 Felix r. 823 Charles Saint Joseph MO --1887 THOMAS J. WASHBURN, pianos, organs and musical merchandise 220 and 222 s. 6th r. 823 Charles Saint Joseph MO-- 1888 RICHARD C. WASHBURN bus. name-- "T. J. WASHBURN," collector r. 1018 Ridenbaugh St. Joseph MO--- 1888 and 1889 THOMAS J. WASHBURN pianos, organs and musical merchandise 220-222 s. 6th r. 823 Charles St. Joseph MO ---1889 RICHARD C. WASHBURN music r 1018 Ridenbaugh St. Joseph MO ---1890 THOMAS J. WASHBURN pianos, organs and musical merchandise 220-222 s. 6th r 823 Charles St. Joseph MO-- 1890 Isabelle Washburn r. 1726 Howard St. Joseph MO 1889 Mrs. Z. D. Washburn r. 1307 Penn St. Joseph MO 1889 Belle Washburn r 1726 Howard St. Joseph MO 1890 Edward Washburn rooms 104 s. 6th St. Joseph MO 1890 John Washburn rooms 104 s. 6th St. Joseph MO 1890 Leonard A. Washburn machinist r Mitchell avenue north east corner 33d St. Joseph MO 1890 1890 Directory in St. Joseph, MO: Washburn Belle (wid John G.) r 1716 Howard 525 Washburn Edward rms 104 s 6th 525 Washburn John rms 104 s 6th 525 Washburn Leonard A. mach r Mitchell av ne cor 33d 525 Thomas and Richard WASHBURN are of interest because of their occupations---music related business in late 1800s. I wonder if they were related to a Robert E. WASHBURN born 1864/65 in Missouri, who by about 1886, certainly by 1890, was in the music business in St. Louis---composing and publishing his own music and teaching. This Robert E. WASHBURN's parents are unknown---except that his mother was very likely a Lulu or Louisa, born about 1846---possibly born CORN (spelling?). A 5yr. old Robert WASHBURN and mother Louisa, 24, were living in Springfield, Green, MO on the 1870 census---and I think this could be my Robert E. WASHBURN, b 1864. Unable to track Louisa WASHBURN (perhaps she died?) I wonder who raised my Robert E. WASHBURN---and who might have been able to provide for him a music background / education that led him to choose his career in music. More on Robert WASHBURN: In 1885, he had a 1st marriage to an Annie MORMAN in Springfield, Green, MO. (and 1910 census--married then to Mary E. Cavanaugh-- in St. Louis shows 2 marriages.). I found a divorce record for Annie and Robert in 1888, also in Springfield, Green Co., MO. I have music written and published by him in St. Louis in this time period, so he / they might have been living in St. Louis--or he was traveling back and forth. There is another possibility for Robert on the 1880 census, living and working as a farm hand on the farm of Jacob BRADBURY in Jasper County----actually the county my "family lore "gives as Robert's birthplace (Carthage, MO).I have Robert and his family by his 2nd wife on the 1900 and 1910 census in St. Louis, MO. Robert E. WASHBURN, Mary E.(Cavanaugh), children--Robert E., b 1897, John L. born 1901, Mary E. born 1902. Robert the father died at his home on Natural Bridge Road in October 1910 and is buried in an unmarked common grave in St. Peter's Cem. The rest of the family is buried in Mem. Park. Cem, at Lucas-Hunt Rd. WASHBURNs listed in 1890 ST. LOUIS CITY DIRECTORY. . . . *Charles Washburn laborer r. 424 S. Second St. Louis MO 1890 *Daniel Washburn paint. r. 1201 Ohio avenue St. Louis MO 1890 *Edward C. Washburn machinist r. 3019A North Market St. Louis MO 1890 *Jennie H. Washburn Holman Paper Box Co. book-keeper r. 310 S. Jefferson avenue St. Louis MO 1890 *Matthew K. Washburn cond. r. 2309 Laclede avenue St. Louis MO 1890 *Prince A. Washburn barber r. 1212 Wash St. Louis MO 1890 *****ROBERT WASHBURN music. r. 722 S. 6th St. Louis MO 1890 I am very interested in hearing from anyone with information on these WASHBURN families in St. Joseph and St. Louis that appear in above City Directory listings. Audrey Williams Stanaland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4760 Message Board Post: I recently bought a few id'd antique photographs from a St. Louis antique dealer. Most are in good condition or better. This one is Id'd on back as: "W. BuschKauper" It was Photographed in St. Louis, MO by Winkler. Click to view attachment. Please contact me at Bronsch@integrity.com if you think this is your lineage. Sincerely, Bill Bronsch

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/1048.1421.2.1 Message Board Post: Willie Bridgeman, Jr. (b. 1-29-1925 d. 2-21-1992) - Served in the US Navy as an S1/Buried in Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery St. Louis, Missouri in Plot: SS 0 1968, bur. 02/28/1992. I know the brith date of 1910 doesn't match, but may be connected somehow. I also have a Mary Bridgeman Born St. Louis, MO/Infant died at 4 months This is all I have at the moment. Some help I hope..... Are any of this your family?. Sadonna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Finagin, East Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4343.1.2 Message Board Post: Anyone interested in this family should feel free to email me. I am an exopert on the Finagin family. My grandfather's grandmother wa Harry East's cousin. I have tons of information on the family including pictures.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Finagin, East Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4343.1.1 Message Board Post: Anyone interested in this family should feel free to email me. I am an exopert on the Finagin family. My grandfather's grandmother wa Harry East's cousin. I have tons of information on the family including pictures.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/2720.1 Message Board Post: This is Harry Jr Harry senior was my dad trying to trace family tree