Hi Lisa, El Dorado was and still is El Dorado County in CA. Contrary to popular belief, many people did go "East" during the gold camp days of CA due to several factors, the main one being the amount of violence and lawlessness in those times. In my opinion, the amount of violence in the gold camps and "towns" in places like ElDorado County surpasses the violence we see in America today. Another reason, specifically for women, is that there were hardly any of them in CA during those times. Miners paid as much as $2 just for the privilege of looking at a woman. Women also missed "civilization" as well as their relatives back home. Many diaries and accounts mention these aspects of the era in CA. Dan Hogan On Saturday, December 25, 2004, at 07:45 PM, ljames62@osagecon.missouri.org wrote: > > Hi, My great-great-great grandmother came from Eldorado Ca sometime > between 1/1853 and 2/1855. She purchased land from the Stlouis land > office in 1856, applied in feb 1855. She had a child born in Ca in > Sept 1852 - so I believe she probably came by boat rather than > overland. She also had another small one born in 1850 in CA. Her > name was Sarah Kelly and she would have had the two small ones with > her and a teen-age son. I see alot of info mentioning ships coming > from other countries - but I can't seem to find any references about > people leaving CA coming from the gold rush. Any guidance would be > deeply appreciated. Lisa > Dan Hogan porterville.k12.ca.us

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kelly, Kelley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4818 Message Board Post: Hi, My great-great-great grandmother came from Eldorado Ca sometime between 1/1853 and 2/1855. She purchased land from the Stlouis land office in 1856, applied in feb 1855. She had a child born in Ca in Sept 1852 - so I believe she probably came by boat rather than overland. She also had another small one born in 1850 in CA. Her name was Sarah Kelly and she would have had the two small ones with her and a teen-age son. I see alot of info mentioning ships coming from other countries - but I can't seem to find any references about people leaving CA coming from the gold rush. Any guidance would be deeply appreciated. Lisa

> EIGHT GERMAN GREAT GRANDPARENTS > > > MOTHER'S FAMILIES: > > GOESSLING Herford, Hausheide - Diebock, Westphalia > BIERMANN Lenzinghausen, near Borgholzhausen, > Westphalia > BRUNE near Borgholzhausen, Westphalia > JUNGE Echte, South of Hannover in the > foothills of the Herz Mountains > > > FATHER'S FAMILIES: > > BAUER Taeferrot, a wide spot in the road of > Stuttgart, Wuerttemburg > STROTHOTTE Guetersloh, Westphalia > MEISTER Hesselteich, Westphalia, a > smallerwide spot > KOENIG (also known as Meister), Steinhagen, > Westphalia > UPMEYER Borgholzhausen, Westphalia > KINDERMANN Gross Raueschen, near Dresden, Saxony > > > NOTES: > Junges arrived in New Orleans in 1846. > Bauer sailed from LaHavre to New Orleans. > Others sailed from Bremen to New Orleans in 1852 to 1858. > Then, on a Mississippi steamboat to St. Louis, > Strothotte & husband Meister sailed 1858 from Hamburg to New York. > All lived in North St. Louis German Colony, scattered after 1918 and > the close of WWI, > mostly to the West End. >

Here the last stanza of the "First Day of Christmas" as my life is pictured at the moment. The Twelfth day of Christmas My True Love gave to me: A brand new PC 2 blue screens of death 3 hours of Time to apply all the updates & SP2 4 boxes of software including Family Tree maker 5 baptismal scrolls of formerly unknown relatives 6 forms to send to NARA 7 magazine subscriptions 8 packs of CD back up discs 9 pounds to the minute headache 10 hours on hold with Microsoft 11 letters to leads in Germany 12 newly found relatives all wanting money. OldeNTQer

_Official Home of the City of Sedalia Missouri_ (http://ci.sedalia.mo.us/) or _http://ci.sedalia.mo.us/_ (http://ci.sedalia.mo.us/) Try the Chamber of Commerce link the Photography. There are 2 studios listed and maybe they know where the Day & Nights Arcives went. Also try the library. They may be able to help OldeNTQer

I was wondering if any of you are familiar with a portrait studio by the name of "Day and Night Studio" that was located in Sedaliai, Mo.? I have an old photo from there and am not quite sure who these people are. There is an #29895 printed on the back. If anybody can give me any information on this subject please reply. Thanks-Patty

I was just wondering if any body has herd of "Day and Night Studio", a photography studio, in Sedaliai, Mo.? I have an old photo from there and am not sure who it is. Looks like #27895 written on back. If any body has herd of it would you please contact me. Thanks-Patty

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Huse Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/2720.1.1 Message Board Post: Harry, Hope you got my e-mail if not here is mine. ladeekathryne@charter.net. I'm not sure if Laura every contacted you. Let me know Charlie was my Grandfather. Kathryne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/2365.2369.2372.2374 Message Board Post: Aren't you the man I have been trying to contact who has Swains also in the family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Heeney, McGoldrick, Cull, Keagan, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4815.1 Message Board Post: Take a look at this web site and give them a call. I am sure they could help you. http://www.jesuits-mis.org/history.html Diane

i was at an antique mall today in eureka mo and found a pic of soldiers in a frame- it was quite a long pic. - it was labeled world war one st louis mo 51st (cant remember if its infantry or what- just thought anyone with ancestors in the st louis 51st (?) ww1 might be interested- i didnt look at teh price tag however- i was going to buy it but realized it wasnt my grandfathers group afterall.....

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Godat Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/1384.1607.2451.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I may be able to help someone in their Godat family search by supplying some additional names and dates from a few antique poetry books passed around among my Godat family members showing their signatures and dates (specifically Mary L. Godat of Galena, Illinois, and later of Freeport, Illinois, and Charles W. Godat). My mother was a 'Godat girl' (daughter of Andrew L. Godat of Crystal City, Missouri/granddaughter of Charles 'Civil War' Godat). If interested in what information I have, feel free to email me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4817 Message Board Post: What is a "private birth" in St Louis, in 1913?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4816.1 Message Board Post: Is this who you are looking for? 1900>Missouri>St. Louis>1ward St. Louis Gates Harriette Head March 1850 51 born Ky. Charles son March 1873 27 MO. John son Jan. 1880 20 MO. William son May 1882 18 MO. Henry son July 1883 16 MO. This is an African american family, that lived in the city of St. Louis. Hope this helps. Michele

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: gates Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/4816 Message Board Post: I have a different e-mail now... aires16@alltel.net Looking for any info-

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4812.2 Message Board Post: Dear Tammy, It would seem that if he were born in 1920, he would have been in WW II (1941-1945) although he could have been in the Korean War (1950-1953). My Dad was in the Army Air Corp and was stationed at Jefferson Barracks which is either in St. Louis or just outside of it. Ended up in the infantry during the Battle of the Bulge. http://www.archives.gov/facilities/mo/st_louis/military_personnel_records/standard_form_180.html Georgia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4609.2.2 Message Board Post: Try checking in Gasconade and Franklin Co. for your Peter Peters. I show him purchasing items at my great great great grandfather's estate sale in August, 1866, if indeed he is your man: Sale bill of the estate of D M Hiatte Account of sales of personal estate of D. M. Hiatte, deceased, made by James Armstrong, administrator on the 11th day of August, 1866 at the late residence of said deceased in pursuance of notice duly given in presence of M. E. Armstrong, clerk of sale. Articles sold Purchasers Amount $ cents Lot of Kegs Garret Davis .05 Lot of boxes Garret Davis .10 “ “ C. C. Davis .10 “ “ Wm. E. Joiner .20 “ “ Daniel Davis .20 “ “ Peter Peters .05 “ “ E. B. Hensley .35 “ “ Peter Peters .50 “ “ Peter Peters .40 “ “ Garret Davis .65 “ “ Robert Henson .10 “ “ Peter Peters .20 tin ware Henry Sewing .05 sundries Peter Peters .05 boxes tc Dan Davis .25 barrels S G W Hiatte .70 boxes S G W Hiatte .60 keg & brush H P Myers .55 coffee mill Peter Peters .45 sack ginger Mrs. Hutton .25 1 two inch auger Henry Sewing .50 1 small auger Henry Sewing .10 bottle R. M. Miller .40 “ Thomas Robinson .25 Page 2 Lantern & bucket Henry Ehring .30 basket Ernst Meyer .10 smoothing iron Galen Robinson .35 hatchet Thomas Hill .10 tin ware Ficton Shidecker .30 “ “ Galen Robinson .35 candle moulds & pan James Hiatte .35 trunk Joseph Reynolds .80 scales Fritz Brant 2.05 gun I J Davis 13.35 watch James Hiatte 3.25 horse phelgms M Myers .15 ladies saddle H P Myers 4.70 “ “ F Schoniny .05 churn Wm Hazleman .60 jars Galen Robinson .15 crockery H P Myers .15 coal oil lamp A J Davis .75 apple peeler & coffee mill Hiram Robinson .65 castor C R Hiatte .65 bottles F Schoniny .10 3 “ Wm Hazleman .15 “ “ F Schoniny .10 set tea cups & saucers H P Myers 1.10 sugar bowl & cream pitcher D S Davis .40 knives & forks C R Hiatte 2.60 sundries E Homan .35 knives F Schoniny .30 3 plates C R Hiatte 1.00 set plates H P Myers 1.85 sundries S G Hiatte .45 knife & spoon A J Davis .55 dish & glasses B Waltz .90 Sundries C R Hiatte .05 Page 3 Pocket compass John Sneider .25 bowl & pitcher James Hiatte 1.65 pitcher Galen Robinson .30 Colts revolver T C Joiner 14.00 dining table Hoffarth .30 trey F Schoniny .33 looking glass H P Myers 1.20 “ “ R M Miller .30 razor & strap M E Armstrong 1.20 hone R M Miller 1.25 books tc T H B Davis 1.50 sleyes (sleighs?) Robert Henson .30 bedstead Mrs. E Murphy .80 “ Galen Robinson 6.45 2 chairs SG Hiatte 1.00 3 “ John Frederic 1.00 rocking chair James Hiatte 1.10 “ “ John L Davis 2.00 bedstead H P Myers 8.00 “ C R Hiatte 1.00 picture frame R M Miller .30 “ “ R M Miller .35 “ “ C R Hiatte .30 “ “ C R Hiatte .40 “ “ Kasper Smith .25 tea waiter Garret Davis .35 stand table James Hiatte .30 clock John V Miller .20 “ Galen Robinson 14.10 sieve Mrs. E Bailey .10 138 lbs wool rolls James Trate 10.00 box H P Myers .45 large kettle Joseph Reeves 5.00 cutting knife John L Davis 6.00 Page 4 box starch Wm E Joiner .30 2 sugar bowls Galen Robinson .30 “ “ “ Mrs. Hutton .45 “ “ “ E B Hensley .45 2 butter plates Wm E Joiner .55 “ “ “ S G W Hiatte .60 “ “ “ E B Hensley .65 “ “ “ Jas Hiatte .70 sundries Eldridge Trail .40 vials Mrs. Hutton .10 Molasses pitcher Galen Robinson .15 “ “ Fictor Shidecker .20 “ “ Henry Sewing .25 2 candlesticks Fictor Shidecker .10 2 “ --Labum .10 2 “ Garret Davis .10 Door buts tc Garret Davis .30 Padlock Peter Peters .25 “ Laburn .25 “ D S Davis .25 Tin ware tc Garret Davis .15 2 parasols Galen Robinson .20 2 “ H P Myers .15 2 “ James Hiatte .25 2 “ SG Hiatte .15 Sundries Fance Brinkman .60 Starch Wm Davis .35 books James Trail .40 “ James Trail .75 Bonnets S G Hiatte .10 “ R M Miller .10 book & hat Garret Miller .80 3 hats Michael Schwep .15 Sundries Felix Trail 1.03 Page 5 Sundries James Hiatte .30 Razor strap James Trail .30 “ “ Wm Davis .30 Slop jars C R Hiatte .30 “ “ H P Myers .60 “ “ Galen Robinson .35 “ “ Hiram Robinson .60 “ “ Hiram Robinson .60 Slop jars S G Hiatte .80 “ “ Thomas Robinson .75 “ “ James Hiatte .75 Sundries C R Hiatte .05 “ Fred Brant .15 Boxes and paper Wm Hazleman .25 Sundries James Hiatte 2.25 “ Hiram Robinson .65 Counter scales Herman Holtgrave .30 pipe stems Garret Davis .75 sundries John L Davis .15 “ S G Hiatte .15 “ John L Davis .40 slates & pencils S G Hiatte .20 sundries Hiram Robinson .10 collar & harness James Hiatte 2.00 heating stove C R Hiatte 1.95 scales James Hutton .45 Desk John V Miller .40 sundries John L Davis .20 wagon C R Hiatte 12.80 plow M Schwap .25 andirons Mrs. Hutton 1.85 irons tc Wm Davis 1.20 log chains Hiram Robinson 2.90 box tricks S G Hiatte .50 Page 6 2 augers H P Myers .80 2 “ Fred Schoniny .50 3 chisels James Rogers .15 drawing knife C R Hiatte .15 Grinding stone S G Hiatte .10 Shovel plow James Hiatte 1.10 Log chain Bernhard Waltz 1.05 breast yoke & chain John Frederic 2.00 single tree & drawing knife A J Davis .30 pot hooks C R Hiatte .35 gearing S G Hiatte 2.35 fan irons Hiram Robinson .35 trinkets S G Hiatte .25 barrels John Frederic .65 kegs & salt F Schoniny .05 jar of lard H P Myers 1.05 box sk tc John Frederic .75 box Peter Peters .25 26 ¼ lbs bacon Thomas Hill 4.10 trough Garret Davis .10 scythe D S Davis .10 cupboard Mrs E Reeves 10.30 reel E B Hensley 3.25 small wheel Garret Davis 3.60 Gearing V collar James Hiatte .30 single trees James Hiatte 1.00 small bedstead John Frederic .15 large wheel James Trail 3.00 butter stand & soap tub Wm Davis 1.60 tub & skillet H P Myers .40 pot vessels Wm Davis .75 tea kettle H P Myers .95 fire shovel Wm Davis .55 Cooking stove Hiram Robinson 12.50 Page 7 Smoothing plane R M Miller .25 lounge Mrs. Hutton 2.15 wool cards Abraham Kesling .25 rope tc James Hiatte .45 cut knife & shoe clamp Wm Davis .20 pine box Joseph Reeves .30 2 sheep 1st choice C R Hiatte 3.00 “ “ 2nd “ C R Hiatte 3.75 “ “ 3rd “ C R Hiatte 3.25 1 colt H P Myers 37.25 1 mare C R Hiatte 81.20 Saddle Charlie Hurstman 4.30 2 hogs C R Hiatte 7.00 1 stack hay Joseph Reeves 7.50 2 saw logs L Reck 2.03 2 saw L Reck 2.00 3 saw R M Miller 4.25 corn 1st lot S G Hiatte 2.50 “ 2nd “ A E Myers 11.00 2 bu. Wheat Thomas Hill 1.75 2 water buckets Henry Mittendorf .50 boxes barrels tc Asa Trail .30 1 axe Garret Davis 1.25 1 stack hay S G Hiatte 1.50 1 handsaw S G Hiatte .15 1 handsaw Jas Hiatte .35 Pair stretchers S G Hiatte .35 Total amount $431.75 do State of Missouri} County of Gasconade} Marsters E. Armstrong on his oath says that he acted as clerk at the above mentioned sale and that the above is a true account of the sale so made by said James Armstrong of the articles sold, of the pieces thereof and the names of the purchasers at the time specified above: and further says, that he is not interested nor any kin to any heir or devise of the deceased. M E Armstrong Sworn to and subscribed before me this 15th day of August A. D. 1866. Wm Wesselhoft, Co. Clk. Filed Aug. 15th, 1866

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WMB.2ACE/792.1 Message Board Post: Was Edwards fathers name Henry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4815 Message Board Post: I am looking for info on the slaves that helped build the St. Stanislaus Jesuit Seminary in Florissant, MO. It was started in 1823. Does anybody know where they were buired and was the Holy Rosary Church, which was torn down in 1962, built for their decendets? The church sat next to the rosary tree which is still standing in the center of Rosary Tree Ct. in Hazelwood.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hicks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WMB.2ACE/4814 Message Board Post: Looking for John Hicks who was living in St. Louis, MO. in 1985. His mother was named Deloris, His father was John Calvin Hicks, JR. born 1915 Logan County, WV., died 1977 in Ft. lauderdale, FL., John Calvin Hicks, JR. was retired from US Air Force. I'm John Hicks 1st. cousin. All help will be appreciated.