They did not always file a death certificate in that time frame. Especially if he died at home without a doctor attending. Are there funeral home records available. That is how I found my gggrandfather. He did not have a death certificate or headstone but I found his funeral bill and plot number at Boyer's. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Shake <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> Sender: mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:08:20 To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances CarolineWilsonWallace Thank you for trying to help. It has been very frustrating not being able to find his death cert. He had to have had one. I have a copy of the telegram dated 6 April 1917 that was sent to my Grandfather's sister Lucinda by her brother telling her "Father is dead at Irondale". Ulysses Grant Wallace, son of AJWallace sent it - ________________________________ From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 9:46:44 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances CarolineWilsonWallace Thanks Marlene, If you hadn't found these two newspaper articles, I would almost believe he didn't die in Missouri because his wife did not. I have looked for a few others who died within the time frame posted on the archives website but found no death certificate. I pulled up all Washington County deaths for 1917 looking for something under Andrew or Jackson but found nothing. Wish I could be more help. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances CarolineWilsonWallace > Ruth > > Thank you for doing that - I sent for the death cert 2 or 3 different > time, and > they didn't have one on file for him. I checked for Wallis and a couple > other > spellings, but none was found. Would it be listed in the county records? > Seems > to me like I checked with them too, but it has been a long time. Must > have been > mis-filed at the time it happened. > > > I have these two postings from the newspaper, but never found an obit: > > Potosi Journal: Potosi, MO-Wednesday, April 11, 1917: > "Irondale: - Mr. Andrew Wallace, a veteran of the Civil War, died Friday > morning > at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Lee Province, of the place. He was > ninety > years of age. > > "Weekly Independent" Potosi, MO - Thursday, April 12, 1917: > W. Wallace died at the home of his daughter Mrs. Lee Province Friday last, > after > suffering from burns which he received several weeks ago, when his house > burned. He was laid to rest in the Big River Cemetery. > > Thanks again, Marlene > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> > To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 4:43:19 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline > WilsonWallace > > Have you found Andrew's death certificate for 1917. I have searched the > file and could not locate it. I am wondering if perhaps there was a > misspelling of the name, although I searched for the date and did not seem > to find it that way either. > Thanks, Ruth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> > To: <MOSTFRAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 PM > Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline > WilsonWallace > > >> My GGrandfather died 1917 in Irondale - lived in Bismarck for a time - is >> buried >> in Big River Cem. Would like to know where wife Frances is buried. She >> died >> Jan 13, 1921 in the State hospital in Union Co., IL, but I think is >> buried >> either in St. Francois or Washington Co., MO >> >> I am also interested in learning more about the Wm. Wallace listed in the >> 1910 >> census. >> >> Marlene Shake >> >> >> 1900 Census, Bismarck, MO >> Wallace, Andrew J., white born Apr 1833, age 67, married 30 years, born >> TN, >> parents born North Carolina, trade, Gunsmith >> Wallace, Frances C., wife, female, born May 1847, age 53, married 30 >> years, >> mother of 10 children, 5 living, born Ala, father born Ala, mother born >> TN >> Wallace, Grant, son, born Nov 1881, age 18, single, born MO, blacksmith >> Wallace, Lucinda, dau. born Jan 1884, age 16, single, born MO >> Wallace, Alice, dau, born July 1889, age 10, born MO, attends school >> _____________________________________________________________ >> 1910 census Iron Twp., Bismarck City, St. Francois County, MO (April >> 1910) >> Dwelling #85 Family #86 (in order of visitation) >> >> Wallace, Andrew J., age 76/married/40 yrs/ b TN/parents b >> NC/Blacksmith/self >> employed/can't read or write/own home/free of mortgage/survivor of Civil >> War-Army >> (my note I know AJ could read and write - have seen a postcard - he had a >> nice >> handwriting, but by 1910 he was blind.) >> >> Wallace, Frances C. wife, age 63, married 40 years/mother of 11, 5 >> surviving in >> 1910/b. AL, father born England, mother born NC/can read and write. >> >> Only 1 other Wallace in the above census: Wm. C. Wallace, age 56, >> married >> 37 >> yrs/b Mo/parents b. 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Boyers Funeral Home in Bonne Terre has been very helpful with my NASH Family as well. I would definitely suggest checking with them or any of the other Funeral Directors in the area. Good luck with your research. Joyce Nash-Wafford Selma, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <abkelly1@yahoo.com> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wifeFrancesCarolineWilsonWallace > They did not always file a death certificate in that time frame. > Especially if he died at home without a doctor attending. Are there > funeral home records available. That is how I found my gggrandfather. He > did not have a death certificate or headstone but I found his funeral bill > and plot number at Boyer's. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marlene Shake <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> > Sender: mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:08:20 > To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances > CarolineWilsonWallace > > Thank you for trying to help. It has been very frustrating not being able > to > find his death cert. He had to have had one. I have a copy of the > telegram > dated 6 April 1917 that was sent to my Grandfather's sister Lucinda by her > brother telling her "Father is dead at Irondale". Ulysses Grant Wallace, > son of > AJWallace sent it - > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> > To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 9:46:44 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances > CarolineWilsonWallace > > Thanks Marlene, > > If you hadn't found these two newspaper articles, I would almost believe > he > didn't die in Missouri because his wife did not. I have looked for a few > others who died within the time frame posted on the archives website but > found no death certificate. I pulled up all Washington County deaths for > 1917 looking for something under Andrew or Jackson but found nothing. > Wish > I could be more help. > Ruth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> > To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances > CarolineWilsonWallace > > >> Ruth >> >> Thank you for doing that - I sent for the death cert 2 or 3 different >> time, and >> they didn't have one on file for him. I checked for Wallis and a couple >> other >> spellings, but none was found. Would it be listed in the county records? >> Seems >> to me like I checked with them too, but it has been a long time. Must >> have been >> mis-filed at the time it happened. >> >> >> I have these two postings from the newspaper, but never found an obit: >> >> Potosi Journal: Potosi, MO-Wednesday, April 11, 1917: >> "Irondale: - Mr. Andrew Wallace, a veteran of the Civil War, died Friday >> morning >> at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Lee Province, of the place. He was >> ninety >> years of age. >> >> "Weekly Independent" Potosi, MO - Thursday, April 12, 1917: >> W. Wallace died at the home of his daughter Mrs. Lee Province Friday >> last, >> after >> suffering from burns which he received several weeks ago, when his house >> burned. He was laid to rest in the Big River Cemetery. >> >> Thanks again, Marlene >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> >> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 4:43:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline >> WilsonWallace >> >> Have you found Andrew's death certificate for 1917. I have searched the >> file and could not locate it. I am wondering if perhaps there was a >> misspelling of the name, although I searched for the date and did not >> seem >> to find it that way either. >> Thanks, Ruth >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> >> To: <MOSTFRAN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 PM >> Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline >> WilsonWallace >> >> >>> My GGrandfather died 1917 in Irondale - lived in Bismarck for a time - >>> is >>> buried >>> in Big River Cem. Would like to know where wife Frances is buried. She >>> died >>> Jan 13, 1921 in the State hospital in Union Co., IL, but I think is >>> buried >>> either in St. Francois or Washington Co., MO >>> >>> I am also interested in learning more about the Wm. Wallace listed in >>> the >>> 1910 >>> census. >>> >>> Marlene Shake >>> >>> >>> 1900 Census, Bismarck, MO >>> Wallace, Andrew J., white born Apr 1833, age 67, married 30 years, born >>> TN, >>> parents born North Carolina, trade, Gunsmith >>> Wallace, Frances C., wife, female, born May 1847, age 53, married 30 >>> years, >>> mother of 10 children, 5 living, born Ala, father born Ala, mother born >>> TN >>> Wallace, Grant, son, born Nov 1881, age 18, single, born MO, blacksmith >>> Wallace, Lucinda, dau. born Jan 1884, age 16, single, born MO >>> Wallace, Alice, dau, born July 1889, age 10, born MO, attends school >>> _____________________________________________________________ >>> 1910 census Iron Twp., Bismarck City, St. Francois County, MO (April >>> 1910) >>> Dwelling #85 Family #86 (in order of visitation) >>> >>> Wallace, Andrew J., age 76/married/40 yrs/ b TN/parents b >>> NC/Blacksmith/self >>> employed/can't read or write/own home/free of mortgage/survivor of Civil >>> War-Army >>> (my note I know AJ could read and write - have seen a postcard - he had >>> a >>> nice >>> handwriting, but by 1910 he was blind.) >>> >>> Wallace, Frances C. wife, age 63, married 40 years/mother of 11, 5 >>> surviving in >>> 1910/b. AL, father born England, mother born NC/can read and write. >>> >>> Only 1 other Wallace in the above census: Wm. C. Wallace, age 56, >>> married >>> 37 >>> yrs/b Mo/parents b. 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