Beginning with Ms. Shake's posting to the list on 8/25/2010 and continuing through Ms. Wofford's reply on 8/27/2010, I believe most people would agree with me that the correspondence to the list was genealogical in nature and the questions and answer posted to the list could benefit most people who subscribe to the St. Francois Co., Mo. list. After that the I would be lying if I thought the last 3 postings added anything of a genuine genealogical nature to the original question. I can see Ms. Shake saying "thank you" publicly versus privately but after that seems like somebody got hold of my late sister's Chatty Cathy doll and are just pulling her string to here her talk. There are times when some individuals seem to think that the St. Francois Co. website is sort of a "Facebook" for people who are interested in genealogy. Give us a break. If you want to chat, there are over 500 million people who like to chat and there is no doubt in my mind that some of them are interested in genealogy and perhaps even in St. Francois Co., Mo. Euel p.s. if anyone thinks there is gender bias in anything I have written above I think you would be lying. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Carver To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew JacksonWallaceandwifeFrancesCarolineWilsonWallace I am not positive but to my knowledge, Boyer has never had a fire. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce D Wafford" <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace I was there in June 2007, and they traced my NASH burials way back. Good Luck Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Joyce - Thank you - I think I checked with them years ago, and if my memory serves me right (it may not) seems like they told me they had a fire and some records were lost - but I'll again check my paper files. Thanks again for your help. Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce D Wafford <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> To: abkelly1@yahoo.com; mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 9:22:07 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Boyers Funeral Home in Bonne Terre has been very helpful with my NASH Family as well. I would definitely suggest checking with them or any of the other Funeral Directors in the area. Good luck with your research. Joyce Nash-Wafford Selma, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <abkelly1@yahoo.com> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace They did not always file a death certificate in that time frame. Especially if he died at home without a doctor attending. Are there funeral home records available. That is how I found my gggrandfather. He did not have a death certificate or headstone but I found his funeral bill and plot number at Boyer's. -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Shake <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> Sender: mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:08:20 To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Thank you for trying to help. It has been very frustrating not being able to find his death cert. He had to have had one. I have a copy of the telegram dated 6 April 1917 that was sent to my Grandfather's sister Lucinda by her brother telling her "Father is dead at Irondale". Ulysses Grant Wallace, son of A J Wallace sent it - -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 9:46:44 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Thanks Marlene, If you hadn't found these two newspaper articles, I would almost believe he didn't die in Missouri because his wife did not. I have looked for a few others who died within the time frame posted on the archives website but found no death certificate. I pulled up all Washington County deaths for 1917 looking for something under Andrew or Jackson but found nothing. Wish I could be more help. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Ruth Thank you for doing that - I sent for the death cert 2 or 3 different time, and they didn't have one on file for him. I checked for Wallis and a couple other spellings, but none was found. Would it be listed in the county records? Seems to me like I checked with them too, but it has been a long time. Must have been mis-filed at the time it happened. I have these two postings from the newspaper, but never found an obit: Potosi Journal: Potosi, MO-Wednesday, April 11, 1917: "Irondale: - Mr. Andrew Wallace, a veteran of the Civil War, died Friday morning at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Lee Province, of the place. He was ninety years of age." "Weekly Independent" Potosi, MO - Thursday, April 12, 1917: W. Wallace died at the home of his daughter Mrs. Lee Province Friday last, after suffering from burns which he received several weeks ago, when his house burned. He was laid to rest in the Big River Cemetery." Thanks again, Marlene From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 4:43:19 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Have you found Andrew's death certificate for 1917. I have searched the file and could not locate it. I am wondering if perhaps there was a misspelling of the name, although I searched for the date and did not seem to find it that way either. Thanks, Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <MOSTFRAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace My GGrandfather died 1917 in Irondale - lived in Bismarck for a time - is buried in Big River Cem. Would like to know where wife Frances is buried. She died Jan 13, 1921 in the State hospital in Union Co., IL, but I think is buried either in St. Francois or Washington Co., MO I am also interested in learning more about the Wm. Wallace listed in the 1910 census. Marlene Shake 1900 Census, Bismarck, MO Wallace, Andrew J., white born Apr 1833, age 67, married 30 years, born TN, parents born North Carolina, trade, Gunsmith Wallace, Frances C., wife, female, born May 1847, age 53, married 30 years, mother of 10 children, 5 living, born Ala, father born Ala, mother born TN Wallace, Grant, son, born Nov 1881, age 18, single, born MO, blacksmith Wallace, Lucinda, dau. born Jan 1884, age 16, single, born MO Wallace, Alice, dau, born July 1889, age 10, born MO, attends school 1910 census Iron Twp., Bismarck City, St. Francois County, MO (April 1910) Dwelling #85 Family #86 (in order of visitation) Wallace, Andrew J., age 76/married/40 yrs/ b TN/parents b NC/Blacksmith/self employed/can't read or write/own home/free of mortgage/survivor of Civil War-Army (my note I know AJ could read and write - have seen a postcard - he had a nice handwriting, but by 1910 he was blind.) Wallace, Frances C. wife, age 63, married 40 years/mother of 11, 5 surviving in 1910/b. AL, father born England, mother born NC/can read and write. Only 1 other Wallace in the above census: Wm. C. Wallace, age 56, married 37 yrs/b Mo/parents b. NC HH#142.

I just happened to like those posts and I LEARNED SOME THINGS.  Shannon Co had fires as lots of place in your wild west had them.  Wish my relatives had been buried by that place and see how short my post is!!!   And I am NOT a liar!!!! --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> wrote: From: Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew JacksonWallaceandwifeFrancesCarolineWilsonWallace To: MOSTFRAN@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 7:51 PM Beginning with Ms. Shake's posting to the list on 8/25/2010 and continuing through Ms. Wofford's reply on 8/27/2010, I believe most people would agree with me that the correspondence to the list was genealogical in nature and the questions and answer posted to the list could benefit most people who subscribe to the St. Francois Co., Mo. list. After that the I would be lying if I thought the last 3 postings added anything of a genuine genealogical nature to the original question. I can see Ms. Shake saying "thank you" publicly versus privately but after that seems like somebody got hold of my late sister's Chatty Cathy doll and are just pulling her string to here her talk. There are times when some individuals seem to think that the St. Francois Co. website is sort of a "Facebook" for people who are interested in genealogy. Give us a break. If you want to chat, there are over 500 million people who like to chat and there is no doubt in my mind that some of them are interested in genealogy and perhaps even in St. Francois Co., Mo. Euel p.s. if anyone thinks there is gender bias in anything I have written above I think you would be lying. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruth Carver To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew JacksonWallaceandwifeFrancesCarolineWilsonWallace I am not positive but to my knowledge, Boyer has never had a fire.  Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce D Wafford" <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace I was there in June 2007, and they traced my NASH burials way back. Good Luck Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Joyce - Thank you - I think I checked with them years ago, and if my memory serves me right (it may not) seems like they told me they had a fire and some records were lost - but I'll again check my paper files. Thanks again for your help. Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce D Wafford <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> To: abkelly1@yahoo.com; mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 9:22:07 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Boyers Funeral Home in Bonne Terre has been very helpful with my NASH Family as well.  I would definitely suggest checking with them or any of the other Funeral Directors in the area. Good luck with your research. Joyce Nash-Wafford Selma, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <abkelly1@yahoo.com> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace They did not always file a death certificate in that time frame. Especially if he died at home without a doctor attending. Are there funeral home records available. That is how I found my gggrandfather. He did not have a death certificate or headstone but I found his funeral bill and plot number at Boyer's. -----Original Message----- From: Marlene Shake <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> Sender: mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:08:20 To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Thank you for trying to help.  It has been very frustrating not being able to find his death cert.  He had to have had one.  I have a copy of the telegram dated 6 April 1917 that was sent to my Grandfather's sister Lucinda by her brother telling her "Father is dead at Irondale". Ulysses Grant Wallace, son of A J Wallace sent it - -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 9:46:44 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Thanks Marlene, If you hadn't found these two newspaper articles, I would almost believe he didn't die in Missouri because his wife did not.  I have looked for a few others who died within the time frame posted on the archives website but found no death certificate.  I pulled up all Washington County deaths for 1917 looking for something under Andrew or Jackson but found nothing. Wish I could be more help. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Ruth Thank you for doing that - I sent for the death cert 2 or 3 different time, and they didn't have one on file for him.  I checked for Wallis and a couple other spellings, but none was found.  Would it be listed in the county records? Seems to me like I checked with them too, but it has been a long time.  Must have been mis-filed at the time it happened. I have these two postings from the newspaper, but never found an obit: Potosi Journal: Potosi, MO-Wednesday, April 11, 1917: "Irondale: - Mr. Andrew Wallace, a veteran of the Civil War, died Friday morning at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Lee Province, of the place.  He was ninety years of age." "Weekly Independent" Potosi, MO - Thursday, April 12, 1917: W. Wallace died at the home of his daughter Mrs. Lee Province Friday last, after suffering from burns which he received several weeks ago, when his house burned.  He was laid to rest in the Big River Cemetery." Thanks again, Marlene From: Ruth Carver <sisterruthie@hughes.net> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 4:43:19 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace Have you found Andrew's death certificate for 1917.  I have searched the file and could not locate it.  I am wondering if perhaps there was a misspelling of the name, although I searched for the date and did not seem to find it that way either. Thanks, Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shake" <pachydermtusk@sbcglobal.net> To: <MOSTFRAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:32 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Andrew Jackson Wallace and wife Frances Caroline Wilson Wallace My GGrandfather died 1917 in Irondale - lived in Bismarck for a time - is buried in Big River Cem.  Would like to know where wife Frances is buried. She died Jan 13, 1921 in the State hospital in Union Co., IL, but I think is buried either in St. Francois or Washington Co., MO I am also interested in learning more about the Wm. Wallace listed in the 1910 census. Marlene Shake 1900 Census, Bismarck, MO Wallace, Andrew J., white born Apr 1833, age 67, married 30 years, born TN, parents born North Carolina, trade, Gunsmith Wallace, Frances C., wife, female, born May 1847, age 53, married 30 years, mother of 10 children, 5 living, born Ala, father born Ala, mother born TN Wallace, Grant, son, born Nov 1881, age 18, single, born MO, blacksmith Wallace, Lucinda, dau. born Jan 1884, age 16, single, born MO Wallace, Alice, dau, born July 1889, age 10, born MO, attends school 1910 census Iron Twp., Bismarck City, St. Francois County, MO (April 1910) Dwelling #85 Family #86 (in order of visitation) Wallace, Andrew J., age 76/married/40 yrs/ b TN/parents b NC/Blacksmith/self employed/can't read or write/own home/free of mortgage/survivor of Civil War-Army (my note I know AJ could read and write - have seen a postcard - he had a nice handwriting, but by 1910 he was blind.) Wallace, Frances C. wife, age 63, married 40 years/mother of 11, 5 surviving in 1910/b. AL, father born England, mother born NC/can read and write. Only 1 other Wallace in the above census:  Wm. C. Wallace, age 56, married 37 yrs/b Mo/parents b. NC HH#142. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In response to Euel B. Lyon's posting which is below, I want to state that I got a couple of ideas for my genealogical research from the general chatting. This was despite the fact that the people they were talking about have nothing to do with my research. What appears boring and useless to one person might actually have a point to someone else. I'd like for them to keep chatting in case I can glean something else. From my perspective, when in doubt, chat. Those who don't appreciate it can just delete it. Beginning with Ms. Shake's posting to the list on 8/25/2010 and continuing through Ms. Wofford's reply on 8/27/2010, I believe most people would agree with me that the correspondence to the list was genealogical in nature and the questions and answer posted to the list could benefit most people who subscribe to the St. Francois Co., Mo. list. After that the I would be lying if I thought the last 3 postings added anything of a genuine genealogical nature to the original question. I can see Ms. Shake saying "thank you" publicly versus privately but after that seems like somebody got hold of my late sister's Chatty Cathy doll and are just pulling her string to here her talk.