Ms. Fox and others if interested, I was taught .. "learn from the past, live in the present and prepare for the future." I am sure somebody before my parents thought that up but that is where I first heard that saying. Sounds like good advice for everybody and not just genealogists. I have and almost everybody that I dealt with in genealogy has found "skeletons in the closet." Just because I quoted the Bible in my last e-mail does not mean that I am espousing religion. The Good Book tells us a lot about history and whether a person believes in "original sin" or not to me is not important. What I think a good genealogist has to remember is that "bad, evil, criminal, hatred, reprisal etc." was not "invented yesterday." It has existed on earth as long as recorded history. Therefore, if a wrong was done in the past and does not affect you, let it go, get over it, move on and leave it alone. That is just my opinion. sam ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Fox To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Sam Hildebrand Sam, thank you. We cannot re-write history. We all have characters in our tree. My family has it's colorful characters, and actually I wish they had done something notable so I could find them. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: n sam hill To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Sam Hildebrand "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth" - Mathew 5:38 KJV but reading on .. "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also" - Mathew 5:39 KJV I am thumping the Bible or passing judgment but history has recorded a lot of information about Sam Hildebrand and his exploits. Even on the St. Francois Co., Mo. genealogical web site, there are quite a few terms discussing the merits of Sam Hildebrand. "Following many requests, the Farmington News Printing Co. is undertaking to again publish 'Sam HILDEBRAND's Confession'. The book was written and edited in 1870 by Dr. A. Wendell KEITH and James W. EVANS. The book contained the 'confession' of one of Missouri and St. Francois County's most colorful characters: Sam HILDEBRAND. "HILDEBRAND - more commonly referred to as 'the Missouri Bushwhacker' - was killed at the age of 36. In those short years he lived a full life that took him through the Civil War and into skirmish after skirmish with many of his own people" Who was Sam Hildebrand in reality? Only those at the time knew some of the facts. Historical accounts were made, but were taken from other narrative or first hand accounts that is a major question. I think it is foolish for anyone not familiar with the time, place and participants to make judgment on this man or his actions. I would disagree with anyone who states that "He was right in his actions for seeking revenge in the way that he did." That is a statement being made by a person who neither was there at the time of the incidents or has full knowledge of what took place and is making a capricious statement when they know not the fact. s.n.h. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce D Wafford To: dhl.ell@sbcglobal.net ; mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Parkview Cemetery Thank you, Darryl. I applaud you for speaking up on this man's behalf. What he and his family endured was horrible. He was right in his actions for seeking revenge in the way that he did. Joyce Nash-Wafford ----- Original Message ----- From: <dhl.ell@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Parkview Cemetery Donald, Please be cautious about referring to my GR GR Grandfather as "unsavory". Have you read his Biography? Are you aware what the Unions Army did to his family prior to him seeking revenge? Regards. Darryl Lawson From: Donald Yeager <donaldyeager@charter.net> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Parkview Cemetery To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 5:19 PM There are two cemeteries besides Parkview that I want to do this next year. One of them I already had on my list was the Hampton Cemetery in Elvins (Now Park Hills) and the other is the oddfellows in Farmington. The Hampton has a couple of unsavory fellows buried there. One well known in this area is Sam Hildebrand from the Civil War era. Have to go eat. Donald Yeager ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message