Hi Jan, If I remember right, way back a few years (at least 10 years ago) when I was looking for my dad's 2 sisters, I called the Cozean Funeral Home and they explained to me that the records for this cemetery was lost when there was a fire at the old Miller Funeral Home in Farmington.   They also said, that the County,,,,,,and in all their wisdom......used a bush hog to clean up the cemetery.....That is why so many of those headstones are laying flat on the ground and some imbedded in the ground.....so there are no old records of who or where anyone is buried....except to do what you did and right down the headstones that are located in the cemetery.....With that said, unless those headstones were knocked off their base and fell right there, we don't even know if that person is buried with that headstone......When I found the headstone for Arvil Dickey (A. J. Dickey) it too was laying over, face down in some yucca plants.   I cleaned it up and placed it back in there (this is towards the back of the cemetery along the parking lot almost middle in the cemetery)  I didn't see his name on your list and I know his headstone was there in August....I try to go back there to check on it about 4 times a year, I'll go back either tomorrow or Monday on my way to work to check on his headstone.   I know Thelma was the one who said that Ruby & Lula were buried in the same cemtery as Arvil Dickey. I also know that if a cemetery is "Non-Endowed" that meant the family had to take care of that area.....Knights of Pythias was that way back in the 60's.....I can remember going up there with my Dad and brother and we had the push mower & clipper to clean up around my grandpa's headstone.  I think they became "endowed" when Cozean took over that cemetery.      Karen & Glenn                               In search of my mother's garden, I found my own.....                                                                                                             Alice Walker ________________________________ From: "JScott4607@aol.com" <JScott4607@aol.com> To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, October 2, 2010 4:00:58 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] St. Francois County Cemetery Bettye - Well, my mother and I did take the trip to this cemetery:  (this is  how the sign reads) - St. Francois Cemetery - Lodge 48, IOOF (next to the  building, where the Farmington School busses are parked - off of Karsch and Ste.  Genevieve Ave.) - then to the side of the sign, it says -  "Non Endowed Cemetery" - I wasn't sure what that meant,  so I looked it up on the internet.  This is what I found: _SENATE BILL NO. 495_ (http://www.senate.state.mo.us/96info/bltext/intro/SB495.htm)  : [(24)] (25) "Nonendowed care  cemetery", or "nonendowed cemetery", a cemetery or a section of a cemetery for  which no endowed care fund has been established in accordance with sections  214.270 to 214.410;   Missouri Revised Statutes Chapter 214  Cemeteries Section 214.370 August 28, 2009 Nonendowed cemetery to post signs and give notice of its character.  214.370. 1. Every operator of a nonendowed cemetery shall comply with the  provisions of this section.  2. Every person subject to this section shall post in a conspicuous place in  every office where sales of burial space in a nonendowed cemetery are conducted,  a legible sign stating, "This is a nonendowed cemetery." The lettering of this  sign shall be of suitable size so it is easily read at a distance of fifty feet.  3. Every person subject to this section shall also have printed or stamped at  the head of all contracts, deeds, statements, letterheads, and advertising  material, used in any connection with the sale of burial space in a nonendowed  cemetery, the statement: "This is a nonendowed cemetery." in lettering  equivalent to a minimum of ten point number two black type, and shall not sell  any lot or interment space therein unless and until the purchaser thereof is  informed that the cemetery is a nonendowed  cemetery. _________________________________________________________________ So,  am I reading this correctly?  It is a cemetery that is not  supported??  Supported by whom?  Does that mean that the people buried  there could not afford to pay for their plot or funeral?  My mother says  she knew the one Dr. that is buried there and he was not poor.  Guess I am  confused! Bettye, is the St. Francios cemetery, the one you say you have the  list for - the Farmington IOOF Cemetery (are they one in the  same)?  Did the IOOF, give you a copy of this list - just curious  how you find the list of this cemetery. (I have a listing for  the Farmington IOOF Cemetery.  The graves you mention are not on the list,  however, there is a listing for a Helen Mae Dickey, born and died in 1914,  daughter of Phillip L. & Mary Jane (Coffel) Dickey.  Listing indicates  there is no tombstone.) Regardless, I did do one thing, while I was there - I wrote down the names  (what I could read), from each tombstone.  (there were quite a few that  just had a small stone w/no name and some were so old, you couldn't read  them.  I heard that there are some of them that are sunken in the ground  and no tombstones.  I did see a few sunken places, so who knows?) But, below is the list - there is no guarantee that I am spelling some of  them correctly - like I said, most of them were very hard to read.  I  thought maybe somebody on the list, may be looking for a particular name.  I still do not know if my mother's sister is buried here, as we are pretty sure  she didn't have a tombstone to begin with. Jan Scott Mary F. (?) David & Catherine Evans Hannah Taylor Lucinda F.  (?) Elizabeth Cobb R(?) Cobb Dubart Murphy &  Sarah Bacon Florence (?) William Hunt Sala(?) Evans Jas(?)  Evans Philip B. (?) James M. (?) James S. Evans Edward  Evans Louis Keyes E.M. Wyant P. Bige(?) Philip Green James  Bainter Margaret (?) Robert (?) Jasper Horn EB (?) Our  Babe Josiah & Elizabeth Bruett George W. Bowyer Henrietta  Nelson Nettie (?) I.B. Cunningham Frances Cunningham Robert D.  Cunningham Helen Schwartz Jacob Schwartz Carl & Mary  Giessing EBH(?) John Horn Matte J. Bisplinghoff Noah Horn Robert  Horn Mary Brown (?) Perkins Iva Perkins (?) Perkins Leroy  Markert Emma & Andrew Hilton Della & William Chalk (Baby)  Chalk Metta Bell Sytha & James Feezor George William Bud  Herzog Mary Herzog Justine Wilson Amelia Wilson John E.  Wilson Catherine Wilson Oscar (?) Frank Hunt (Baby) Hunt William  & Willa Gardner Carrie Bolin Hoy Ursinus Hoy Mary Hoy Children  of Henry & Elizabeth Oberbeck Leona Rudy John Rudy Mary  Rudy Sarah Margaret Beckett Prudence Karsher Mary & Henry  Kollmeyer Alleda Kollmeyer Henry Neiderdt Eve Neidert (the name above  had "d" in the name) Carl Kalbreier McClintock Stephen Ellis Mary  (?) Ross Jelkyl Clara Wines Egbert Wines Paul Brewster Clifford  & Frances Mary Brewster Woodrow & Reva Hibbits Rev. K.H. &  Zola May Ladman J. Lynn & Mildred (Laws) Hopkins Thomas &  Minnie Hopkins Ray & Lois Callahan Van & Mollie  Sherfield Nellie Walker Jennie Bayless James & Lillian  Sharpe George Bayless Edward & Beulah Garner John  & Flora Whitworth John & Ruth Hoosier Fredia  Hoosier William Hopkins James Welker Theodore Warren Leonard &  Mary Woodard Carl & Lavinia Krewson Bobbie & Connie Jean  Watkins Brandon Eders Karen Watkins Elders James & Eileen  Watkins In a message dated 10/1/2010 4:23:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  JScott4607@aol.com writes: Bettye  & Karen - We called my mother's cousin, Thelma (Dickey) Bohs.  Karen has visited  her & received much family information.  Thelma is 94 years old & can  tell us our whole family  history! She said the Farmington Cemetery & St. Francois Cnty  cemetery, should  be the same -just that they sometimes split one  cemetery as the back  side was for those that couldn't afford a  cemetery plot.  So she  believes they are the same. My  mother & I are taking a ride now to the cemetery. Will get back  with you all soon with more info- Jan Scott Sent from my  iPhone On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:19 AM, "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net>  wrote: > This is death certificate database I was referring  to: > >  http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/#search > >  Bettye > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 23:40:14 -0500 >  Jan  Scott <JScott4607@aol.com> wrote: >>  Bettye, >> >> Looks like my cousin Karen is ahead of us -  I'll need to >> get a copy >> from Karen.  She works on  the Dickey side more than I >> do.  I'm still >> doing  my Dad's Swedish side -the Weiman's, from Bonne >>  Terre. >> >> Thanks for all you do for this list,  Bettye! >> >> Jan >> P.S.  Just curious -  which 'database' are you talking >> about? >> >>  Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:08 PM, "B.  Warner" >> <bkwofc@i1.net> wrote: >> >>>  Jan, >>> If you get a chance, why don't you look up Helen's  death >>> certificate on the database and see what cemetery  she's >>> buried in.  I would be interested in knowing  whether it >>> says Farmington IOOF, or "County Cemetery".  I'd do it, >>> but I've got too many irons in the fire right  now. >>> Bettye >>> >>> On Thu, 30 Sep  2010 22:45:04 -0500 >>> Jan Scott <JScott4607@aol.com>  wrote: >>>> Bettye - >>>> >>>>  Karen is my cousin.  Karen, these girls belong to  Clint >>>> & Lizi (?), >>>> your Dad's  parents, correct?  But, Karen may know, as I >>>> do,  Helen Mae >>>> is my mother's oldest sister, that died at  birth. >>>> Philip & Mary Jane >>>> Dickey  are my grandparents.  I never knew that Helen was >>>>  buried there, >>>> even my mother didn't know it.  Most of  our Dickey >>>> family is buried at >>>>  Parkview Cemetery in Farmington. >>>> >>>>  T >>>> >>>> Jan  Scott >>>> >>>> Sent from my  iPhone >>>> >>>> On Sep 30, 2010, at 9:20 PM,  "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net> >>>>  wrote: >>>> >>>>>  Karen, >>>>> I think it was pretty common around here for  there to be >>>>> cemeteries within cemeteries.  For  example several of >>>>> the >>>>>  cemeteries have special sections within them that are >>>>>  designated Masonic areas such as the Doe Run Memorial >>>>>  Cemetery.  On old obituaries it was stated that  people >>>>> were buried in the Doe Run Masonic  Cemetery.  I take >>>>> care >>>>> of  the what is now known as the Herod Cemetery near >>>>>  Desloge.  This cemetery was originally platted as  the >>>>> Cantwell IOOF Cemetery back in the early 1900's  and back >>>>> behind this cemetery is the old Haile  Cemetery which >>>>> many >>>>> people  think is part of the Herod Cemetery but the >>>>>  graves >>>>> there are not included on the plat.  I  have come across >>>>> alot of early obits which indicate  that burial was made >>>>> in >>>>> the  Cantwell IOOF Cemetery, which is now called the >>>>>  Herod >>>>> Cemetery.  I have a listing for the  Farmington IOOF >>>>> Cemetery.  The graves you mention  are not on the list, >>>>> however, there is a listing for a  Helen Mae Dickey, born >>>>> and died in 1914, daughter of  Phillip L. & Mary Jane >>>>> (Coffel) Dickey.  Listing indicates there is no >>>>>  tombstone. >>>>>  Bettye >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010  18:59:28 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> Karen Kleinberg  <kdkleinberg@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> Does anyone  know if there are 2 cemeteries connected >>>>>>  together??  I am looking >>>>>> for the St.  Francois Co. Cemetery to locate where 2 of >>>>>> my  aunts are bured; they >>>>>> were little girls when they  died on April 8 & Aprl 6, >>>>>> 1920.  According to the >>>>>> family they were buried "right  ouside of town".  I >>>>>> looked and looked up  & >>>>>> down Highway 32 and then learned they were  in the >>>>>> cemetery on Ste Genevieve  St. >>>>>> next to where the Farmington School District  parks their >>>>>> buses. At one time  this >>>>>> was "out of town!!"  The names of  these 2 little girls >>>>>> are Ruby & Lula  Dickey. >>>>>> They also have a cousin, Arvil Dickey,  buried in the >>>>>> same cemetery who died  on >>>>>> Feb. 5, 1914.  There is a headstone for  him but I cannot >>>>>> find a headstone  for >>>>>> Ruby or Lula (the family probably couldn't  afford to get >>>>>> them one).  The  death >>>>>> certificates for all 3 of these children say  there are >>>>>> buried in the  St. >>>>>> Francois Co.  Cemetery. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>  I know the sign on Ste Genevieve says the I.O.O.F. >>>>>>  Cemetery......Could this >>>>>> cemetery be the "St.  Francois Co. Cemetery"???? or is >>>>>> there 2  cemeteries >>>>>> there??  Any clues or thoughts on  this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Karen  Kleinberg >>>>>> Farmington,  MO >>>>>> >>>>>>      In  search of my mother's >>>>>> garden, I found my  own..... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>    Alice Walker >>>>>>  ________________________________ >>>>>> From: Mike  Flannigan <mikeflan@att.net> >>>>>> To:  mostfran@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Sent: Thu, September 30,  2010 8:39:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] St.  Francois County  Cemetery >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>  Thanks for the info.  I'm sure you are  right. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's kinda odd  that a "county" cemetery is gone >>>>>> and forgotten,  but stranger things have  happened. >>>>>> >>>>>>  Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>  On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, bkwofc@i1.net  wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>  Mike, >>>>>>> That's what I thought at first too, but  one of the >>>>>>>  burials >>>>>>> they are seeking information on was in  1911 and there >>>>>>>  are >>>>>>> no burials in St. Francois Memorial  Cemetery that early. >>>>>>>  Bettye >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 30 Sep  2010 05:13:57 -0500 >>>>>> Mike  Flannigan<mikeflan@att.net>  wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>  I think Saint Francois Cemetery and Saint >>>>>>>>  Francois Memorial Park Cemetery are >>>>>>>> the  same cemetery and are located  here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  http://msrmaps.com/map.aspx? >>>>>>>  t=2&s=12&lon=-90.51361&lat=37.89306&opt=1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>  Is that different from Saint Francois County >>>>>>>  Cemetery? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>  Mike Flannigan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message