I would like to take this time to Thank each and everyone of you who did the lookup for me. I appreciate all of your help and all of your suggestions very much. God Bless Each and Everyone of You, and Best Wishes with all of your own research. Joyce Nash-Wafford Selma, CA
Thank you, Euel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Euel B. Lyon" <ublyon@charter.net> To: <MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH > Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they > intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the > simplest of names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found > that sometimes you have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial > and error to find who you are looking for and sometimes that does not work > or they just are not in any census for that year. > > Euel Baker Lyon > > 1870 United States Federal Census > > Name: Henry March > Birth Year: abt 1825 > Age in 1870: 45 > Birthplace: Kentucky > Home in 1870: Big River, St Francois, Missouri > Race: White > Gender: Male > > Post Office: Farmington > Household Members: Name Age > Henry March 45 > Margret J March 30 > Joseph March 20 > Becky A March 19 > Henry Mores 12 > Louisa Mores 18 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce D Wafford > To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:03 AM > Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup > > > Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, > MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. > > I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out > some of his neighbors. > > 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 > Ancestry) > # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 > > MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY > MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN > MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb > MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN > MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** > MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** > ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. > ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census > Record/ > > I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois > County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. > > Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found > using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. > > Thank you, > Joyce. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you, Barbara. I could not find him at all on Ancestry last night. I am missing him on the 1860 Census Record as well, but he could be anywhere between Kentucky and Missouri at that time. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <GENENGOLF@aol.com> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup > He is listed under MARCH. > > > > > > Barbara in Georgia > genengolf@aol.com > May God Continue to Bless America! > > > In a message dated 11/6/2010 9:03:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ograndma1@sbcglobal.net writes: > > Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, > MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. > > I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out > some of his neighbors. > > 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 > Ancestry) > # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 > > MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY > MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN > MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb > MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN > MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** > MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** > ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. > ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this > Census > Record/ > > I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois > County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. > > Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found > using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. > > Thank you, > Joyce. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Darryl, Thank you so much for this information. Can you tell me if this NASH Hill was on Primrose Road, or in the near vicinity? We have the NASH Family Cemetery (and I call it that as there are between 25 to 45 graves there from what I am told), on top of a hill, that sits on Primrose Toad, north of Bonne Terre. I have been trying to find out for the past 5 years, exactly which NASH Family this land belong to, when the first burial was made there. I have the Cemetery listed on the St. Francois County website. Bettye Warner and Jan Scott transcribed it and took pictures of some of the graves for me. As you know I live in California and cannot come to Missouri very often. I was there in 2007, and have not been able to get back since then. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <dhl.ell@sbcglobal.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup Joyce, My paternal grandparents owned a farm a mile north of the "Midway" service station on old US 67. A mile south of the station was a home owned by the Nash family, and it sat on what my uncle and Aunt called "Nash" Hill. From the top of Nash Hill to the Big River Bridge was about 3/4 mile. I SUSPECT that this area was Big River Township. Living in this township, in addition to the Lawson Family was Aunt Belle Forshee Dotson. If you find these names on a census, which says they live in Big River Twnshp, the answer is obvious. Darryl Lawson --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Joyce D Wafford <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Joyce D Wafford <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 9:03 AM Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ancestry is redoing all the census with American workers. Church of Latter Day Saints and others are working with them to correct the horrible transcription. I noted yesterday they had a posting --NEWLY transcribed 1910 census. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Esther M. Ziock Carroll To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH You are so right Euel. I have found many names misspelled in the Ancestry.com censuses. Another drawback is that sometimes they don't use first names but initials. Esther M. Ziock Carroll Genealogist, Historian, Author, Homemaker Servant to 10 cats, 2 dogs, 1 husband www.carrollscorner.net --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> wrote: From: Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 9:24 AM Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the simplest of names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found that sometimes you have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial and error to find who you are looking for and sometimes that does not work or they just are not in any census for that year. Euel Baker Lyon 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Henry March Birth Year: abt 1825 Age in 1870: 45 Birthplace: Kentucky Home in 1870: Big River, St Francois, Missouri Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Farmington Household Members: Name Age Henry March 45 Margret J March 30 Joseph March 20 Becky A March 19 Henry Mores 12 Louisa Mores 18 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce D Wafford To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:03 AM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I believe My grandparents Farm was in this same area-remember highway visiting near bridge as a child after long time they sold --John Sherman Humphrey--& Ethel Pearl Westover--- Prior to 1935 Moved To Detroit --Any other family info---Humphrey, Westover, Weddel-Blackwell-Miller anyone might have would be appreciated-- willing to Exchange Info--back through Owen Humphrey NC 1750-1812? I am son Vaughn S. Humphrey.. thanks,.Hugh Humphrey ----- Original Message ---- > From: Linda Fox <echslfox@pldi.net> > To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 4:18:03 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH > > Ancestry is redoing all the census with American workers. Church of Latter >Day Saints and others are working with them to correct the horrible >transcription. I noted yesterday they had a posting --NEWLY transcribed 1910 >census. > > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Esther M. Ziock Carroll > To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH > > > You are so right Euel. I have found many names misspelled in the >Ancestry.com censuses. Another drawback is that sometimes they don't use first >names but initials. > > > > Esther M. Ziock Carroll > Genealogist, Historian, Author, Homemaker > Servant to 10 cats, 2 dogs, 1 husband > www.carrollscorner.net > > > > --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> wrote: > > > From: Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH > To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 9:24 AM > > > Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they >intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the simplest of >names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found that sometimes you >have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial and error to find who you >are looking for and sometimes that does not work or they just are not in any >census for that year. > > Euel Baker Lyon > > 1870 United States Federal Census > > Name: Henry March > Birth Year: abt 1825 > Age in 1870: 45 > Birthplace: Kentucky > Home in 1870: Big River, St Francois, Missouri > Race: White > Gender: Male > > Post Office: Farmington > Household Members: Name Age > Henry March 45 > Margret J March 30 > Joseph March 20 > Becky A March 19 > Henry Mores 12 > Louisa Mores 18 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joyce D Wafford > To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:03 AM > Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup > > > Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, >MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. > > I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some >of his neighbors. > > 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 >Ancestry) > # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 > > MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY > MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN > MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb > MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN > MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** > MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** > ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. > ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census >Record/ > > I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly >appreciated. > > In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois >County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. > > Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using >the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. > > Thank you, > Joyce. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message >
You are so right Euel. I have found many names misspelled in the Ancestry.com censuses. Another drawback is that sometimes they don't use first names but initials. Esther M. Ziock Carroll Genealogist, Historian, Author, Homemaker Servant to 10 cats, 2 dogs, 1 husband www.carrollscorner.net --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> wrote: From: Euel B. Lyon <ublyon@charter.net> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 9:24 AM Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the simplest of names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found that sometimes you have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial and error to find who you are looking for and sometimes that does not work or they just are not in any census for that year. Euel Baker Lyon 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Henry March Birth Year: abt 1825 Age in 1870: 45 Birthplace: Kentucky Home in 1870: Big River, St Francois, Missouri Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Farmington Household Members: Name Age Henry March 45 Margret J March 30 Joseph March 20 Becky A March 19 Henry Mores 12 Louisa Mores 18 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce D Wafford To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:03 AM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Expanding on Ms. McDaniel's comments. I try the easiest way first. If my "small net" does not catch my "fish," then I begin enlarging my net. It is mostly common sense coupled with experience and trial and error but a very common step for me are to expand the range for date of birth. I use that technique in many of the places where the search parameters are entered. For very difficult situations, I common use "the wild card" which is means that I can use "soundex," "uncheck exact matches," and for the very difficult ones I have found that entering the first three (3) letters of the first or last or first and last names with and asterisk (*) behind the third (3rd) letter of the first, last or first and last name. I found Henry MARSH with the very first try. I used "Exact matches, "Exact Spelling," and entered for the first and last names "Hen* " and "Mar* " and knowing that Henry was supposedly 45 yrs. of age (b. 1825) and he was supposedly in St. Francois Co., Mo. in the 1870 census - the township normally is not important at this stage - I did not even enter the date of birth and I only came up with "Henry March b. 1825 in Ky. & he was living in Big River, St Francois, Missouri and another gentleman "Henry Marie" born in Switzerland. This was almost a slam dunk and pretty easy. They can really get nasty and sometimes almost or impossible to find. Just one other hint about St. Francois Co., Mo. in the various censuses. The way St. Francois Co. is listed is not always the same. Here are the variations. You can make note or just remember to try a different spelling. 1830 - St Francois, Missouri 1840 - Saint Francois, Missouri (note) 1850 - St Francois, Missouri 1860 - St Francois, Missouri 1870 - St Francois, Missouri 1880 - Saint Francois, Missouri (note) 1900 - St Francois, Missouri 1910 - St Francois, Missouri 1920 - St Francois, Missouri 1930 - St Francois, Missouri I hope this information may help someone in their research. E.B. Lyon ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia McDaniel To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH It is possible to search using only a first name in Ancestry.com as long as you restrict the area of search. I have often found the person I am looking for by using this technique when I couldn't find them using their last name. Searching for an unusual name is often more fruitful than a more common name so knowing the children in the household is helpful. Cynthia McDaniel From: mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Euel B. Lyon Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:24 AM To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the simplest of names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found that sometimes you have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial and error to find who you are looking for and sometimes that does not work or they just are not in any census for that year. Euel Baker Lyon 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Henry March Birth Year: abt 1825 Age in 1870: 45
It is possible to search using only a first name in Ancestry.com as long as you restrict the area of search. I have often found the person I am looking for by using this technique when I couldn't find them using their last name. Searching for an unusual name is often more fruitful than a more common name so knowing the children in the household is helpful. Cynthia McDaniel From: mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mostfran-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Euel B. Lyon Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:24 AM To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup for Henry MARSH Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the simplest of names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found that sometimes you have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial and error to find who you are looking for and sometimes that does not work or they just are not in any census for that year. Euel Baker Lyon 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Henry March Birth Year: abt 1825 Age in 1870: 45 5/10
He is listed under MARCH. Barbara in Georgia genengolf@aol.com May God Continue to Bless America! In a message dated 11/6/2010 9:03:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ograndma1@sbcglobal.net writes: Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ancestry.com did not interpet the census image as "MARSH" rather they intepreted it as "MARCH." This is a very common occurence. Even the simplest of names sometimes are not interpreted corrected. I have found that sometimes you have to use a bit of imagination and go through trial and error to find who you are looking for and sometimes that does not work or they just are not in any census for that year. Euel Baker Lyon 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Henry March Birth Year: abt 1825 Age in 1870: 45 Birthplace: Kentucky Home in 1870: Big River, St Francois, Missouri Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Farmington Household Members: Name Age Henry March 45 Margret J March 30 Joseph March 20 Becky A March 19 Henry Mores 12 Louisa Mores 18 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce D Wafford To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:03 AM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce.
Joyce, My paternal grandparents owned a farm a mile north of the "Midway" service station on old US 67. A mile south of the station was a home owned by the Nash family, and it sat on what my uncle and Aunt called "Nash" Hill. From the top of Nash Hill to the Big River Bridge was about 3/4 mile. I SUSPECT that this area was Big River Township. Living in this township, in addition to the Lawson Family was Aunt Belle Forshee Dotson. If you find these names on a census, which says they live in Big River Twnshp, the answer is obvious. Darryl Lawson --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Joyce D Wafford <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Joyce D Wafford <ograndma1@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Lookup To: MOSTFRAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 9:03 AM Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can anyone tell me why I cannot find BIG RIVER TWP., ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY, MISSOURI, ON THE 1870 Census Records through Ancestry.com. I have HENRY MARSH and family there in 187, and would love to check out some of his neighbors. 1870 Census Record: Big River Twp., St. Francois Co., MO (Pg 2 of 11 Ancestry) # 9 / # 9 June 9, 1870 MARSH, Henry 45 M Farmer 250 KY MARSH, Margaret J. 30 Fe Keeping House TN MARSH, Joseph 20 M Farming TN Deaf & Dumb MARSH, Becky A. 19 Fe At Home TN MOSES, Henry 12 M At Home MO ** MOSES, Loreesa 16 Fe At Home TN *** ** Henry and Loressa are half-siblings of Margaret J. (Moses) Nash. ***This is actually LaVina Moses, her name is spelled wrong on this Census Record/ I am having no luck at pulling him up again. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In 1850 Henry MARSH and Family were in Kentucky, 1870 in St. Francois County, Missouri. He is missing on the 1860 Census Record. Any Help finding that would also be appreciatded. Henry can be found using the MARSH - MASH - and NASH surnames. Thank you, Joyce.
Sounds very interesting ..... Local historian says book should be helpful in genealogy Schmidt publishes book on Civil War justice By TERESA RESSEL/Daily Journal Staff Writer/Friday, November 5, 2010. Local Civil War historian, Bob Schmidt, has published another book this one on Civil War era justice. Civil War Justice in Southeast Missouri, is available at libraries in Farmington, Park Hills, Desloge, Bonne Terre, Ironton and Mineral Area College. The book is available through Schmidt for $25. For more information, call him at 573-358-7946 or visit http://www.camppope.com The cases Schmidt included in his book involve Samuel V. McFarland, John B. and Missouri Coffman and Addison Cunningham of St. Francois County; John F. Abshire and Joseph Jokerst of Ste. Genevieve County and James Shields of Washington County. Each has its own victim but not always a conviction, Schmidt said. The research is intriguing nonetheless. The book was inspired by some of his earlier works and a few new discoveries. The book has a series of seven essays devoted to attempts in bringing accused parties to justice during a civil war that often did not accommodate this right. The alleged criminal acts range from simple assault and drinking while on duty to aiding and abetting the enemy and murder. He said during the Civil War there were three methods of prosecution: Local circuit courts; Military Courts Martial; and Military Commissions. While St. Francois Countys legal machinery continued to operate during the War, cases that came before the Court were mostly not serious in nature, according to the Circuit Court Index for the war years, he said. By contrast, substantial numbers of other counties to our south could not perform even routine local government functions, let alone convene grand juries or hold court. He said whether the circuit court could be convened or not, more serious crimes such as murder were almost universally not heard. Such was the case of the murder of the civilian, Samuel V. McFarland south of Farmington, he said. The (alleged) shooter was William Nash, formerly of the 6th Missouri Infantry. At the time of the killing, he was in Co. H 68th Enrolled Missouri Militia. Though a weak attempt was made to charge him in the Circuit Court, he could not be located. Furthermore his military status was not under the courts martial umbrella. Schmidt said the murder has baffled those familiar with it as the shooter was never fully identified. He said an accidental discovery in another soldiers records some months ago helped identify Nash. The Courts Martial was reserved for Union soldiers and officers charged with various offenses of a military nature and some acts against citizenry such as stealing, pillaging, destruction of property and murder. These courts were normally conducted at a military post. In one case, Union cavalryman Private John W. Terry was charged with the murder of Private Joseph Jokerst at the Planters House Hotel in Cape Girardeau. In another case, Private James Shields was charged and convicted of intoxication while on duty in the Provost Marshal Department. Military Commissions, which Schmidt found fascinating, were reserved for citizens and insurgents charged with offenses against the United States government. The commissions were conducted by a board consisting of Union officers, most of whom also served on Courts Martial during their detached duty for these assignments. Offenses included using disloyal or treasonable language, violating an oath of allegiance, harboring rebel enemies, and aiding and abetting the enemy. The charges against the Coffmans of Flat River were for aiding and abetting the guerrilla, Sam Hildebrand and his gang. It was alleged that the Coffmans piloted the gang in such a way so as to avoid Federal troops, then in the area, Schmidt said. Testimony gathered in their cases indicated a certain amount of trickery on the part of the Federal soldiers who arrested the Coffmans and led to the dismissal of their charges. The killing of militiaman, Addison Cunningham south of Farmington also involved Sam Hildebrand and his gang. Though the gang was never convicted of this crime, a Chestnut Ridge man, William B. Jones, was arrested and charged as an accessory. he said. It was contended that he informed the guerrillas as to where they could find the Cunningham home. Jones was held in the Gratiot Street Military Prison in St. Louis from January to Sept. 29, 1863 but he was never tried. Commissions were also convened to hear the testimony of certain Rebel soldiers classified as guerrillas, bushwhackers, insurgents and rebel enemies. Some of these cases constitute the gray area for wartime judicial conduct as a captured Rebel soldier in uniform was commonly held as a prisoner of war to be paroled or possibly exchanged. An exception to this code was Cpl. John F. Abshire who was charged with killing a Wayne County civilian. Besides the method in which he was tried, Abshires case has several other ironies; foremost being the fact that he was hanged in St. Louis in spite of having his sentence commuted by President Lincoln, Schmidt said. Also in his saga was a failed escape attempt from prison making this tale worthy of serious study. He said this book should also be helpful in genealogy, especially for the mentioned families. From diaries, letters and military reports, Schmidt has also included much detail on what life was like in the Myrtle Street and Gratiot Street prisons in St. Louis. Schmidt of French Village has written several Civil War related books which are also available at libraries and for purchase. After writing a book, Schmidt is often asked, Which of these persons are you related to? The answer is always none. I just like the research, discovery and interpretation, he said.
Patiently awaiting any name that looks familiar. Thanks Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: Esther M. Ziock Carroll To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] articles Bettye - thanks so much for those interesting news paper articles. I'm always hoping something will turn up about my grandfather. He got in a lot of trouble in St. Francois County back in the 20's & 30's & I'm sure some of it must have made headlines. Esther M. Ziock Carroll Genealogist, Historian, Author, Homemaker Servant to 10 cats, 2 dogs, 1 husband www.carrollscorner.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bettye - thanks so much for those interesting news paper articles. I'm always hoping something will turn up about my grandfather. He got in a lot of trouble in St. Francois County back in the 20's & 30's & I'm sure some of it must have made headlines. Esther M. Ziock Carroll Genealogist, Historian, Author, Homemaker Servant to 10 cats, 2 dogs, 1 husband www.carrollscorner.net
It'd be interesting to track these obits down to see if the other brother was ever found: HOPKINS, ERNEST 06 Dec 1895 - Dec 1978 82-83 98002 (Auburn, King, WA) 98371 (Puyallup, Pierce, WA) DAILEY, FRANK 01 Nov 1896 - Jan 1979 82 66801 (Emporia, Lyon, KS) 66801 (Emporia, Lyon, KS) DAILEY, FRANK 16 Jan 1901 - Jan 1985 83-84 67846 (Garden City, Finney, KS) (none specified) Oklahoma from below: [Note: It appears from his obituary that he must have located two of his brothers: http://mackleygenealogy.com/~mackley/Obit_Display.php?pid=DA_000018.jpg] In a message dated 11/1/2010 1:54:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bkwofc@i1.net writes: > Subj: [MOSTFRAN] John Dailey Finds Father After Ten Years (1916) > Date: 11/1/2010 1:54:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: bkwofc@i1.net > Reply-to: mostfran@rootsweb.com > > Bonne Terre Register, April 28, 1916. > > BOY FINDS FATHER AFTER TEN YEARS. > John Dailey, Taken from Orphan's Home Does Not Know His > Father Is Living. > > A story that reads like a romance from a modern novel > appeared in the Lead Belt News last week in which Bonne > Terre citizens are leading characters. The wife of the > young man referred to in the story was Irene Richardson, > daughter of our esteemed citizen, Warren Richardson. Here > is the little romance around which might be woven a novel > by some literary person. > > "Some seventeen years ago Mrs. John Daily, mother of John > Dailey of Leadwood, died leaving John and three brothers > and their father. The children were all small and the > father being unable to care for them sent them to an > orphan's home in St. Louis; from which they were scattered > to the "four winds". > > "John found refuge in the home of Zeno Kerlagon of just > east of Bonne Terre, where he spent eight or ten years, or > until he was married some six months ago, when he and his > bride took up housekeeping at Leadwood where he had > obtained employment. > > "Everything was moving along nicely with the newly married > couple, but John was wondering where his father and three > brothers were, if they still be alive, until one day an > opportunity presented itself. One of his fellow workmen > had come from Potosi and having become acquainted with > John, asked him what relation he was to the Mr. Dailey, > who lived at Potosi. To which question John answered: > > "I do not know." The fellow worker went ahead talking and > told John the reason he had asked the question was because > he spelled his name the same way and the two Daileys > favored each other so much. This put John to studying the > more and the thought arose in his mind that he would drive > to Potosi, seek the Mr. Dailey, and ascertain if he was > one of his lost family. He drove to Potosi last Sunday, > met the man and told the above story and the old gentleman > gathered him in his arms and said "Yes, you are my son, > John". Neither John or his father know the whereabouts of > the other three boys, but earnestly hope that they will > turn up all safe and sound. > > "The father has been married the second time, and has six > children by his second wife and all are girls. > > "What can you do to help find the three brothers of John?"
Wow, Thank you for this! It wasn't something I'd found before! I'm wondering why Frank Sutherland's family isn't named. I have little doubt that they would have been there, too. By the way, Victor Dosing was the 3rd MO Hiway Patrolman to die in the line of duty. His photo appears on the Wall of Honor - The Ultimate Sacrifice - Missouri State Troopers Association, Jefferson City, MO Articles can be found at: http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/UltimateSacrifice/OfficerPages/trooperVictorDosing.html http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/AboutThePatrol/History/documents/History40s.pdf http://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/TroopHeadquarters/TroopD/documents/TroopDHistory_002.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_State_Highway_Patrol -Kay In a message dated 10/31/2010 11:27:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bkwofc@i1.net writes: > The Lead Belt News, Flat River, Missouri. > Friday, October 22, 1920. > > FAMILY REUNION. > > A family reunion was held Sunday at the home of Mr. and > Mrs. Charles Downs at Rivermines. Their guests were Mrs. > G. Eddington and four children of Janesville, Wis.; Mr. > and Mrs. J. H. Lupkey of Herculaneum; James Dosing of St. > Louis; Mr. and Mrs. Carl Lupkey and little daughter, > Loretta, of Elvins and Mr. and Mrs. Martin Dosing and son, > Victor, of Rivermines. >
Looks like the seer didn't get the month, day or year right! (-: -Kay In a message dated 10/31/2010 2:58:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bkwofc@i1.net writes: > Subj: [MOSTFRAN] Fortune Teller Predicts Death of Elvins Citizen (1920) > Date: 10/31/2010 > > New Article on St. Francois County MoGenWeb: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mostfran/articles_crime/archambo_fortune_ > teller.htm > > > THE LEAD BELT NEWS, Flat River, Missouri, > Published Friday, August 13, 1920. > > FORTUNE TELLER PREDICTS DEATH OF CITIZEN OF ELVINS > > Prosecuting Attorney Takes a Hand in the Affair and Has > Caused the Arrest of the "Seer". Trial to be Held in > Elvins Today (Friday) > > Looking straight into the eyes of A. Archambo, an > elderly citizen of Elvins, DeLynn Bowman, who has been > doing a rather flourishing business as a clairvoyant and > fortune teller in Flat River, exclaimed: "Say man, you > haven't got long to live. Your days are numbered and your > death will probably occur between the 1st and 28th of > October". Bowman elaborated on this statement by > describing minutely the physical appearance of the man who > would be responsible for Archambo's death. > > Archambo and his family became greatly worried over > this prophesy and Mrs. Archambo finally decided she would > discuss the question with the prosecuting attorney and > perhaps something could be done to prevent this terrible > misfortune breaking up the family circle. The Prosecuting > Attorney has taken a hand in the affair. On information > furnished by Mrs. Archambo, he had a warrant issued for > the arrest of the fortune teller because telling fortunes > and receiving money for same is against the law in such > cases made and provided. Bowman was summoned before > Justice Vance at Elvins last Saturday. He gave bond for > his appearance for trial today (Friday). When asked by the > prosecuting attorney what he meant by predicting > Archambo's death, he said "Well, his sign indicates that > he will die at that time." When asked what sign, he > replied: "Why the sign of the zodiac". > > The prediction of death was not the first experience > the Archambo family has had with the fortune teller. > Recently $184 disappeared in a mysterious manner from the > Archambo home. They went to the "Seer". He told them it > had been stolen and hidden in the garden at their home, > and that they would find it hanging from a thick cluster > of tomato vines. A thorough search of the tomato patch > was made. The vines were so thick that in order to make a > thorough search, every other row of vines were pulled up > and carefully examined. The result was that a perfectly > good patch of tomatoes were ruined, but no trace of the > money was found. > > Note: If the above article refers to Ambrose Archambo, he > died March 31, 1939, at age 87. > >
Bonne Terre Register, April 21, 1916. WM. CAIN AND WIFE HAVE SOLD OUT AND WILL GO TO CALIFORNIA. Mr. and Mrs. William Cain, who for more than a quarter of a century have been residents of Bonne Terre and have won a high place in the esteem of hundreds of friends are planning to go to southern California to make their future home. They sold their home last week to the B.T.F. & C. Co. and are advertising their household goods for sale, as they do not care to ship goods that distance. Mr. Cain has lived her continuously for thirty three years and when pensioned by the St. Joseph Lead Cmpany had been in the service of that Company for thirty-one years. He came to Missouri and Bonne Terre 36 years ago and went to work here but a little later went to Irondale where he was employed for two or three years. He came back to this place in 1883 and took a position with the store department of the lead company and continued in that work till his retirement. During the last 15 years of his service he was cashier. Mr. Cain says he has not been in the best of health for some time and this is his chief reason for seeking the California climate. Mr. and Mrs. Cain do not know whether or not they will like that country as a permanent home but they will try it for awhile. Miss Sadie Wilson, who has made her home with her sister, Mrs. Cain, for many years is not planning to go with them.