Thanks to all who have shared insights into the pronunciation of names and places. I would like to add a couple that I am well familiar with. The Piasa Bird of legend around Alton, Ill. and that area suffers a lot by new "announcers" etc. I was brought up with it being pronounced "Pie-a-saw" Bird. Some out of the area people pronounce it "Pee-as-ah" (that is not easy to do phonetically spell out) and the nearest town to me is Alton or "All-ton." That is often pronounced "Al-ton." Closer to St. Francois Co. would be Potosi, Mo. I have always called it "Pah-toe-see." A friend family from "up north" visited it one time and said "what a quaint little town this 'Pah-ta-see' is." I have always heard "Sansoucie" pronounced "San-sue-cie " like Ms. Carver has mentioned. I agree with Ms. Patterson about "Joachim." I remember Joachim Andujar pitching for the St. Louis Cardinals. In St. Louis County, Tesson Ferry gets butchered some times. The first time I went through "the Bluff" (Poplar Bluff) in Butler Co. on my way to S.E. Mo. I went through Quilan, Mo. I called it "Quil-ann" and got laughed out of town. It is called "Q-lynn" by the locals. I hope more join in. I am learning a lot and having fun.

Not far from here is Desloge, not Dez-lodge, but Duh-lohz   excuse me if someone has already mentioned this.  i'm way behind in my emails.   has anyone mentioned Gravois road in 'the city'? ~~~Tamarah  

>I have been told that "St. Joachim" is pronounced "Joe - ach - em." > > I think you idea is a great one. I for one never new how to pronounce > "DeLassus" and I am or was a "molasses" man sayer of it. I know that is > bad grammar but what the heck. I had to laugh a bit when I read that line.  Years ago I went California and some how the name Joachim came up and I pronounced it Joe-ack-em.  And everyone looked at me like I was from Mars or maybe even Pluto.   My brother nudge me and said it "Wah-keem".  I believe Nevada, MO is pronounced nee-va (long a)-da (short a).  It is always a hoot to listen to the new anouncers say Gravois or Lemay ( Grav-voys and Lee-may)   And we wonder why we find so may spellings of our ancester's surnames.  Denise Dogs are not our whole life, But they make our lives whole.

Jim, You are so right, it is pronounced Joe-ack-em. In Jefferson Co., they do pronounce Boyer as Boy-yer and Womack is pronounced Wom-ack in St. Francois Co., but in Jefferson Co., they pronounce it Wo-mack (long O sound). St. Francois Co., is pronounced St. Francis. How about Sansoucie, the pronounciation of it has changed over the years also. When I grew up they pronounced it San-sue-cie and now it is saunch-cha-cie. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Turner Harris" <chinahilltop@charter.net> To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Pronunciation of names and places >I have been told that "St. Joachim" is pronounced "Joe - ach - em." I hope >that is sort of phonetically the way to say it. I would be interested if >anybody has another way to pronounce it. I will say that in and around >Potosi, Mo. "Boyer" is commonly called "Boo-yer" and that is how I was >brought up saying it. > > I think you idea is a great one. I for one never new how to pronounce > "DeLassus" and I am or was a "molasses" man sayer of it. I know that is > bad grammar but what the heck. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melanie Rickmar > To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:03 PM > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] MOSTFRAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 286 > > > I think we need a list on the St. Francois County web site of > pronunciations > for surnames and place names. > > I've never been sure how to pronounce Joachim as in St. Joachim Catholic > Church. > > And I spent years pronoucing DeLassus as Delasses as in Molasses, lol. > And > I've lived in St. Francois County since I was 12 years old. I had just > never heard the name said - just saw it spelled on road signs. Finally > I > learned to pronounce it: Della Sue. > > And I have had people ask me in emails how St. Francois is pronounced -- > Francis or Fran 'swah". (It is Francis). > > Does anyone have any requests? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now that is an outstanding idea with all the French, German, and Eastern European miners names. I was born in Bonne Terre in the early 1930s, and have heard people call it "Bone Tare-- Boone Tare, Bonnie Tare, and Boney Tarey." I heard St. Joachim pronounced St. "Jo-ak-em," but there is a stream north of Festus called Joachim Creek and my dad and uncles pronounced it "Swash-um" Creek. Have no idea if that was a nickname or they didn't have a clue. Pronunciation guide would really be helpful Jim McClenahan In a message dated 10/11/2008 7:05:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rickmar@cdinter.net writes: I think we need a list on the St. Francois County web site of pronunciations for surnames and place names. I've never been sure how to pronounce Joachim as in St. Joachim Catholic Church. And I spent years pronoucing DeLassus as Delasses as in Molasses, lol. And I've lived in St. Francois County since I was 12 years old. I had just never heard the name said - just saw it spelled on road signs. Finally I learned to pronounce it: Della Sue. And I have had people ask me in emails how St. Francois is pronounced -- Francis or Fran 'swah". (It is Francis). Does anyone have any requests? **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

Middle Initial often indicated the first letter of the Maiden name...not the Middle Initial. ----- Original Message ----- From: SSmith3901@aol.com To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Benham, Maurer, Arens, Aberle: Benham,Mary C. (E?). b. 1848 ... You may have seen this obit also _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mackley/Library_obits_Jpegs/Obits_B_s/Obits_BE/BE_000301.jpg_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mackley/Library_obits_Jpegs/Obits_B_s /Obits_BE/BE_000301.jpg) In a message dated 2/18/2008 6:06:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, MehdiFakhar@aol.com writes: Does anyone know who Mary C. Benham, b. 1848 married? Was it a (Z?) MAURER? Or, was it her younger sister, Margaret, b. 1859, who married a (Z?) MAURER? I am trying to determine if Mary C. Benham, b. 1848 might really be Mary E. Benham, who may have gone by Emily/Emaline Benham, b. 1848, and who married John Dosing approx 1863 in Iron County. Was the John/Julia Ann Benham family related to Emaline Benham (b.1848) Dosing? Could they have been her parents? 1860 St. Genevieve Co., MO Census & 1870 Farmington, St Francois, MO Census John & Julia Ann BENHAM Children were: John A., William H., James M., Mary C., Harriet, Rudy, Joseph, Peter S. and Margaret. 'Mrs. Mary Maurer' is listed as a survivor in her mother, Julia Ann Benham's (1906) obit, and in one of her sibling's (1926) obit. Is this Mary or Margaret? Interestingly, sisters [Mary C (E.?) and Margaret] were not both living at the time of these obits. Since Emaline Benham Dosing died between 1870-1876, she would not have been living at the time of the two above deaths. However, it could be that Margaret, b. 1859, was the deceased sister, not Mary C/E. This next part gets tricky.... It is known that John H. & wife, Mamie Benham (listed in the1930 census below) are second cousins to one of Emaline Benham Dosing's grandchildren. However, after digging into records, l discovered there is also a Dosing family connection to the wife of John H. Benham, Mamie Arens Benham. Mamie's mother's maiden name was Aberle, and this could very well be the 2nd cousin connection (thru marriage) to Emaline Benham Dosing's grandchildren. Thanks! -Kay, FL ----->DOSING<----- 1870 - Iron County Missouri Census Dosing: John 26, b. Germany, works for Iron Company Emaline 20 (or 26?), b. TN John 6, b. MO Catharina 1, b. MO (Note: Emaline died between 1870-1876 and there are no other records to compare her birth info with) ----->BENHAM<------ 1930 St Francois, St Francois, MO John H Benham b. 1890 MO Head (son of Marion - see 1910) Mamie R Benham b. 1893 Wife Hilda Benham b. 1915 Daughter Francis L Benham b. 1923 Son ----------------------------- 1910 Perry, St Francois, MO Marion Benham b. 1859 MO Head (son of Joseph - see 1860/1870) Harriet N Benham b. 1854 MO Wife Fred Benham b. 1888 MO Son John Benham b. 1890 MO Son Lena Benham b. 1892 MO Daughter Hattie Benham b. 1895 MO Daughter ---------------- 1870 Jackson, Ste Genevieve, MO Joseph Benham abt 1837 Kentucky (likely brother to John B.) Margeret Benham abt 1835 Ohio Marion Benham abt 1860 Missouri Joseph Benham abt 1862 Missouri (m. Maggie Forshee) Catherine David abt 1863 Missouri John Benham abt 1864 Missouri Mary Benham abt 1868 Missouri Nancy Benham abt 1869 Missouri 1870 Farmington, St Francois, MO John B Benham abt 1827 Kentucky (likely brother to Joseph) Julia A Benham abt 1821 Missouri Robert R Benham abt 1854 Missouri Joseph M Benham abt 1856 Missouri Peter A Benham abt 1859 Missouri Margret Benham abt 1861 Missouri ---------------- 1860 Jackson, Ste Genevieve, Missouri Joseph Benham 24 (born 1836) KY Margaret Benham 23 (born 1837) OH Marion Benham 1 (born 1859) MO 1860 Jackson, Ste Genevieve, Missouri John Benham 33 b. 1827 TN (or KY?)[blacksmith & sheriff d. 1880] Julia Ann Benham 42 MO [nee Rudy; 1st widowed 1851 - John Cunningham] John A Benham 18 MO (m. Mamie, daughter of Henry & Laura (Aberle) Arens) William H Benham 16 MO (may have been Cunningham, not Benham) James M Benham 14 MO Mary C Benham 12 b. 1848 MO (Is this Emaline, wife of John Dosing; or Mary, wife of Z. Maurer?) 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This maybe your first request. My first home was purchased from a descendent of this Thomure line. The home though was not located in or around the area mentioned below. I have seen the name of "River aux Vasse" many times but am unfamiliar how to pronounce it. Suggestions or answers? ----- Original Message ----- From: Melanie Rickmar To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Obituary of Theresa (Janis) Thomure (1915) FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, December 10, 1915 Mrs. Theresa Thomure, one of the oldest and most respected citizens of this county, died at the home of her son-in-law and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. Alfred Lalumondiere at River aux Vasse Monday night, November 29, 1915, aged 90 years, 2 months and 4 days. Her death was due to old age. The deceased was born in Bonne Terre September 25, 1812 [sic], and was the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Francis Janis. Her husband, Francis Thomure, died about 11 years ago at River aux Vasse, where they had made their home most of their lives. Mrs. Thomure was a good Christian woman and was liked and respected by all who knew her. She is survived by 8 children. -- Ste. Genevieve Fair Play.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, December 10, 1915 Mrs. Theresa Thomure, one of the oldest and most respected citizens of this county, died at the home of her son-in-law and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. Alfred Lalumondiere at River aux Vasse Monday night, November 29, 1915, aged 90 years, 2 months and 4 days. Her death was due to old age. The deceased was born in Bonne Terre September 25, 1812 [sic], and was the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Francis Janis. Her husband, Francis Thomure, died about 11 years ago at River aux Vasse, where they had made their home most of their lives. Mrs. Thomure was a good Christian woman and was liked and respected by all who knew her. She is survived by 8 children. -- Ste. Genevieve Fair Play.

I have been told that "St. Joachim" is pronounced "Joe - ach - em." I hope that is sort of phonetically the way to say it. I would be interested if anybody has another way to pronounce it. I will say that in and around Potosi, Mo. "Boyer" is commonly called "Boo-yer" and that is how I was brought up saying it. I think you idea is a great one. I for one never new how to pronounce "DeLassus" and I am or was a "molasses" man sayer of it. I know that is bad grammar but what the heck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Melanie Rickmar To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] MOSTFRAN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 286 I think we need a list on the St. Francois County web site of pronunciations for surnames and place names. I've never been sure how to pronounce Joachim as in St. Joachim Catholic Church. And I spent years pronoucing DeLassus as Delasses as in Molasses, lol. And I've lived in St. Francois County since I was 12 years old. I had just never heard the name said - just saw it spelled on road signs. Finally I learned to pronounce it: Della Sue. And I have had people ask me in emails how St. Francois is pronounced -- Francis or Fran 'swah". (It is Francis). Does anyone have any requests?

I think we need a list on the St. Francois County web site of pronunciations for surnames and place names. I've never been sure how to pronounce Joachim as in St. Joachim Catholic Church. And I spent years pronoucing DeLassus as Delasses as in Molasses, lol. And I've lived in St. Francois County since I was 12 years old. I had just never heard the name said - just saw it spelled on road signs. Finally I learned to pronounce it: Della Sue. And I have had people ask me in emails how St. Francois is pronounced -- Francis or Fran 'swah". (It is Francis). Does anyone have any requests? > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:34:43 -0500 > From: "James Turner Harris" <chinahilltop@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Death of Theodule Boyer (1915) > To: <mostfran@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <034001c92c0a$b40bff30$85ebb218@HighlandAngels> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I wonder if anybody from that line could say the pronunciation of the > family name. > Was it the common Washington Co., Mo. version "Boo-yer," or I have heard > that in Jefferson Co., Mo. it is called "Boy-yer," and I have heard that > the original French was either "Boy-yea" or "Boo-yea." Just curious. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melanie Rickmar > To: mostfran@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:22 PM > Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Death of Theodule Boyer (1915) > > > FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, > December 10, 1915 > > Theodule Boyer, aged 78 years 6 months and 12 days, died at the home of > his > son, Solomon Boyer in Bloomsdale on Tuesday, November 23, 1915, after a > lingering illness. The deceased was born at Old Mines in Washington > county, > and when a child moved with his parents to French Village. He was married > to Miss Louise Felicite Carron, who died about 13 years ago. To this > union > were born 14 children, 8 living, Clotilda, Mrs. Ambrose Carron, Eli, > Solomon > and George of Bloomsdale, Philomena, Mrs. Clovis L. Charleville, and > Felician, Mrs. I. P. Carron of Brickey's, Mary, Mrs. Elliott Carron and > David of Festus; one sister, Mrs. Dazela Pretzner, and one brother, Louis > Boyer of Festus; 33 grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren. Mr. Boyer > served 6 months in the Civil War. -- Ste. Genevieve Fair Play.

I wonder if anybody from that line could say the pronunciation of the family name. Was it the common Washington Co., Mo. version "Boo-yer," or I have heard that in Jefferson Co., Mo. it is called "Boy-yer," and I have heard that the original French was either "Boy-yea" or "Boo-yea." Just curious. ----- Original Message ----- From: Melanie Rickmar To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Death of Theodule Boyer (1915) FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, December 10, 1915 Theodule Boyer, aged 78 years 6 months and 12 days, died at the home of his son, Solomon Boyer in Bloomsdale on Tuesday, November 23, 1915, after a lingering illness. The deceased was born at Old Mines in Washington county, and when a child moved with his parents to French Village. He was married to Miss Louise Felicite Carron, who died about 13 years ago. To this union were born 14 children, 8 living, Clotilda, Mrs. Ambrose Carron, Eli, Solomon and George of Bloomsdale, Philomena, Mrs. Clovis L. Charleville, and Felician, Mrs. I. P. Carron of Brickey's, Mary, Mrs. Elliott Carron and David of Festus; one sister, Mrs. Dazela Pretzner, and one brother, Louis Boyer of Festus; 33 grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren. Mr. Boyer served 6 months in the Civil War. -- Ste. Genevieve Fair Play.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, December 10, 1915 Theodule Boyer, aged 78 years 6 months and 12 days, died at the home of his son, Solomon Boyer in Bloomsdale on Tuesday, November 23, 1915, after a lingering illness. The deceased was born at Old Mines in Washington county, and when a child moved with his parents to French Village. He was married to Miss Louise Felicite Carron, who died about 13 years ago. To this union were born 14 children, 8 living, Clotilda, Mrs. Ambrose Carron, Eli, Solomon and George of Bloomsdale, Philomena, Mrs. Clovis L. Charleville, and Felician, Mrs. I. P. Carron of Brickey's, Mary, Mrs. Elliott Carron and David of Festus; one sister, Mrs. Dazela Pretzner, and one brother, Louis Boyer of Festus; 33 grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren. Mr. Boyer served 6 months in the Civil War. -- Ste. Genevieve Fair Play.

river- ah- vah   is how its prounced.........The word is french..........Go MIZZOU --- On Sat, 10/11/08, James Turner Harris <chinahilltop@charter.net> wrote: From: James Turner Harris <chinahilltop@charter.net> Subject: Re: [MOSTFRAN] Obituary of Theresa (Janis) Thomure (1915) To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:42 PM This maybe your first request. My first home was purchased from a descendent of this Thomure line. The home though was not located in or around the area mentioned below. I have seen the name of "River aux Vasse" many times but am unfamiliar how to pronounce it. Suggestions or answers? ----- Original Message ----- From: Melanie Rickmar To: mostfran@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: [MOSTFRAN] Obituary of Theresa (Janis) Thomure (1915) FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, December 10, 1915 Mrs. Theresa Thomure, one of the oldest and most respected citizens of this county, died at the home of her son-in-law and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. Alfred Lalumondiere at River aux Vasse Monday night, November 29, 1915, aged 90 years, 2 months and 4 days. Her death was due to old age. The deceased was born in Bonne Terre September 25, 1812 [sic], and was the daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Francis Janis. Her husband, Francis Thomure, died about 11 years ago at River aux Vasse, where they had made their home most of their lives. Mrs. Thomure was a good Christian woman and was liked and respected by all who knew her. She is survived by 8 children. -- Ste. Genevieve Fair Play. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, January 21, 1916 DEATH OF MRS. BELKEN Mrs. Elizabeth Belken died at the home of F. A. Sandman at Mine La Motte January 20, 1916, aged 67 years and 6 days. She was the mother of Chas. Belken of Libertyville.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, January 21, 1916 LAMENTABLE MIX-UP The story has become noised abroad of a married man and a married woman leaving their own lawfully married mates and setting out for parts unknown. The principal parties of this lamentable affair are Herman Schaeffer, of this place, who married about three years ago, and Mrs. Laura Goldsmith, of Elvins, who is understood to have been separated from her husband for some time past. It seems that while Mrs. Schaeffer was visiting in St. Louis recently, Mrs. Goldsmith kept house for Schaeffer, and on Mrs. Schaeffer's return a quarrel resulted over the appearance of things, which resulted in Mrs. Schaeffer going away again to stay with a sister. Then Schaeffer and the Goldsmith woman left town, apparently together, and their exact whereabouts is not known, though they are supposed to be in St. Louis. Mr. Schaeffer had been quite popular here, where he had many friends. Fortunately they have no children.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, January 21, 1916 LITTLE CHILD DIES Frances Hoblitzelle Parsons, 5 years old, the only child of the late Roscoe R. S. Parsons, who was a wealthy resident of Bonne Terre, Mo., died of pneumonia Monday night at the home of her mother, 5117 Westminster place, St. Louis. The child had been ill three days. The father died in California last August. At the time of his death he was general manager of the St. Joseph Lead Company in Bonne Terre. His widow removed to St. Louis last November.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, January 21, 1916 DIES IN CALIFORNIA John McCreary Gaines, formerly a well known citizen of Farmington, who for the past twenty-five years has been living in California, died Friday night, Jan. 14, at his home in Riverside, that State. Deceased was about 75 years old, and death followed a lingering illness. Of a family of eight children, only one, Henry P. Gaines, of Cape Girardeau, Mo., is now living. The family originally lived in St. Francois county. Mrs. J. L. Snider, Mrs. Merrill Pipkin, Mrs. Clarence Norwine, Mrs. Ed Cole and Mrs. J. A. Dunn are nieces. Mr. Gaines was a man of honest convictions and did always what he thought was right. His funeral and interment will occur Sunday at Riverside.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, January 21, 1916 DEATH OF BEN PEERS George B. Peers, better known as Ben, died at San Angelo, Texas, on December 29, 1915. Mr. Peers was a native of Farmington, son of the late John D. and Catherine Cole Peers, and a brother of Mrs. Susan G. Taylor and Luther K. Peers of this place, and Capt. Phil E. Peers of Texas. Besides these he leaves a son, John C. Peers of St. Louis. Mr. Peers spent the most of his life in the West, New Mexico and Texas, engaged in stock and other business. He has many friends in Farmington among the older residents, who regret to hear of his death.

FARMINGTON TIMES, Farmington, St. Francois County, Missouri, Friday, January 21, 1916 WOMAN HELD ON THREE CHARGES __________ Mrs. Katie Kiss of Flat River, Mo., Accused of Stealing $500.00 __________ The police Sunday received a message from T. W. Martain, Justice of the Peace at Flat River, Mo., asking that Mrs. Katie Kiss, 35 years old, of Flat River, who was wanted on a charge of grand larceny, be arrested when she arrived in St. Louis on an Iron mountain train. Mrs. Kiss is accused of stealing $500. Patrolmen Asplin and Senn boarded the train at the Boardway station, Broadway and Tesson street, and when it arrived in Tower Grove station they arrested Mrs. Kiss. Mrs. Kiss said through an interpreter that she had deserted her husband in Flat River and was on her way to visit her sister in East St. Louis. When searched at Police headquarters she was found to have $140, a gold watch, solid gold necklace, two diamond rings, a diamond brooch and a breastpin. Mrs. Kiss denies having stole the money. She is held pending the arrival of her husband.

You may have seen this obit also _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mackley/Library_obits_Jpegs/Obits_B_s/Obits_BE/BE_000301.jpg_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mackley/Library_obits_Jpegs/Obits_B_s /Obits_BE/BE_000301.jpg) In a message dated 2/18/2008 6:06:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, MehdiFakhar@aol.com writes: Does anyone know who Mary C. Benham, b. 1848 married? Was it a (Z?) MAURER? Or, was it her younger sister, Margaret, b. 1859, who married a (Z?) MAURER? I am trying to determine if Mary C. Benham, b. 1848 might really be Mary E. Benham, who may have gone by Emily/Emaline Benham, b. 1848, and who married John Dosing approx 1863 in Iron County. Was the John/Julia Ann Benham family related to Emaline Benham (b.1848) Dosing? Could they have been her parents? 1860 St. Genevieve Co., MO Census & 1870 Farmington, St Francois, MO Census John & Julia Ann BENHAM Children were: John A., William H., James M., Mary C., Harriet, Rudy, Joseph, Peter S. and Margaret. 'Mrs. Mary Maurer' is listed as a survivor in her mother, Julia Ann Benham's (1906) obit, and in one of her sibling's (1926) obit. Is this Mary or Margaret? Interestingly, sisters [Mary C (E.?) and Margaret] were not both living at the time of these obits. Since Emaline Benham Dosing died between 1870-1876, she would not have been living at the time of the two above deaths. However, it could be that Margaret, b. 1859, was the deceased sister, not Mary C/E. This next part gets tricky.... It is known that John H. & wife, Mamie Benham (listed in the1930 census below) are second cousins to one of Emaline Benham Dosing's grandchildren. However, after digging into records, l discovered there is also a Dosing family connection to the wife of John H. Benham, Mamie Arens Benham. Mamie's mother's maiden name was Aberle, and this could very well be the 2nd cousin connection (thru marriage) to Emaline Benham Dosing's grandchildren. Thanks! -Kay, FL ----->DOSING<----- 1870 - Iron County Missouri Census Dosing: John 26, b. Germany, works for Iron Company Emaline 20 (or 26?), b. TN John 6, b. MO Catharina 1, b. MO (Note: Emaline died between 1870-1876 and there are no other records to compare her birth info with) ----->BENHAM<------ 1930 St Francois, St Francois, MO John H Benham b. 1890 MO Head (son of Marion - see 1910) Mamie R Benham b. 1893 Wife Hilda Benham b. 1915 Daughter Francis L Benham b. 1923 Son ----------------------------- 1910 Perry, St Francois, MO Marion Benham b. 1859 MO Head (son of Joseph - see 1860/1870) Harriet N Benham b. 1854 MO Wife Fred Benham b. 1888 MO Son John Benham b. 1890 MO Son Lena Benham b. 1892 MO Daughter Hattie Benham b. 1895 MO Daughter ---------------- 1870 Jackson, Ste Genevieve, MO Joseph Benham abt 1837 Kentucky (likely brother to John B.) Margeret Benham abt 1835 Ohio Marion Benham abt 1860 Missouri Joseph Benham abt 1862 Missouri (m. Maggie Forshee) Catherine David abt 1863 Missouri John Benham abt 1864 Missouri Mary Benham abt 1868 Missouri Nancy Benham abt 1869 Missouri 1870 Farmington, St Francois, MO John B Benham abt 1827 Kentucky (likely brother to Joseph) Julia A Benham abt 1821 Missouri Robert R Benham abt 1854 Missouri Joseph M Benham abt 1856 Missouri Peter A Benham abt 1859 Missouri Margret Benham abt 1861 Missouri ---------------- 1860 Jackson, Ste Genevieve, Missouri Joseph Benham 24 (born 1836) KY Margaret Benham 23 (born 1837) OH Marion Benham 1 (born 1859) MO 1860 Jackson, Ste Genevieve, Missouri John Benham 33 b. 1827 TN (or KY?)[blacksmith & sheriff d. 1880] Julia Ann Benham 42 MO [nee Rudy; 1st widowed 1851 - John Cunningham] John A Benham 18 MO (m. Mamie, daughter of Henry & Laura (Aberle) Arens) William H Benham 16 MO (may have been Cunningham, not Benham) James M Benham 14 MO Mary C Benham 12 b. 1848 MO (Is this Emaline, wife of John Dosing; or Mary, wife of Z. Maurer?) Harriet Benham 10 MO [Mrs. Harriet Prater] Rudy Benham 7 MO [d. 1926] Joseph M Benham 5 MO Peter S Benham 3 MO [m. Rosie B. Garner] Margaret Benham 11/12 MO -marriage?; death? ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff y/2050827?NCID=aolcmp003000000 02598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOSTFRAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)