I do not know where in Germany but the names are George Roth b 23 apr 1813 m Johanna b 24 july 1827 d 15dec 1915

Chris, Do you know what town in Germany that your Roth's were from? Carol -----Original Message----- From: Bobnchrs@aol.com [mailto:Bobnchrs@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:49 AM To: MOSTEGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOSTEGEN] thanks for the reading I am really enjoying the hard work with the transcriptions I find this all so interesting please keep them coming. Werner, Roth, Reidt from Lawrencton are my family names Chris Suthers ==== MOSTEGEN Mailing List ==== To change the form you receive messages in (digest or mail mode), refer to your welcome letter or go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostegen/queries.html for instructions. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

These news items are so much fun to read. I'm looking for the James Davis family from St. Mary's and DeSoto in Jefferson County. I keep hoping they might appear in one of these transcriptions but if not I am still learning a lot about their lives. Thanks, Wendy Bashinski -----Original Message----- From: Bobnchrs@aol.com [mailto:Bobnchrs@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:49 AM To: MOSTEGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOSTEGEN] thanks for the reading I am really enjoying the hard work with the transcriptions I find this all so interesting please keep them coming. Werner, Roth, Reidt from Lawrencton are my family names Chris Suthers ==== MOSTEGEN Mailing List ==== To change the form you receive messages in (digest or mail mode), refer to your welcome letter or go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostegen/queries.html for instructions. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I am really enjoying the hard work with the transcriptions I find this all so interesting please keep them coming. Werner, Roth, Reidt from Lawrencton are my family names Chris Suthers

the suggestion I have read was that the bank had been turned over to "carpetbaggers"; and that the family of Louisa Gibson McCoy had been involved with the bank before the civil war; those were the reasons the bank was a target; that said then your great uncle could have given aid to the gang you can go to the web site for the James-Younger gang or the St Louis Civil War web site for information Kat Mattix

I would also like to thank Sue Resinger and all involved in the transcription of the Ste. Genevieve Herald. I really enjoy reading about what went on at that time. Priscilla

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 10, 1885. DIED. HOGENMILLER -- On Thursday, January 1st, 1885, Charles Felix, infant son of Felix M. and Lizzie Hogenmiller, aged 9 months and 2 days. "Ere Sin could blight or Sorrow fade, Death came with friendly care; The opening bud to Heaven conveyed And bade it blossom there." J. FALLERT -- On Saturday, January 3rd, 1885, Anthony Fallert of Zell, at the age of 15 years, 9 months, 14 days. The young man died unexpectedly and after an illness of only a few hours, having eaten his dinner with the family on Friday; at one o'clock the following night, he died. He was a son of Mr. Charles Fallert, dec'd., who ran the brewery at Zell about 17 years ago. The funeral took place on the St. Joseph Cemetery on Sunday morning. LEE -- John P. Lee, aged 34 years, at the residence of his mother, No. 2336 Easton Avenue, St. Louis, Mo., on December 31, 1884, of typhoid pneumonia. The remains were brought to this county for interment.

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 10, 1885. PERSONAL MENTION. Mr. Jos. [Joseph] Ziegler returned to Festus, Mo., last Saturday. Miss Blanche Bogy of St. Mary is visiting the family of Judge Bogy. Mr. Thomas Rozier, who has been quite sick for some time, is able to go about again. Messrs. Louis Schaaf and Thomas B. Whitledge, of St. Mary, were in town Tuesday. Masters George Jokerst and Peter Huck left for the Cape Saturday, where they will attend the Normal School. Messrs. Isueert(?), John L. Boverie, and Mrs. Dr. Smythe were the "Elliott's" first passengers on her up trip Thursday. Misses Lucy Rozier, Belle Detchemendy and Marie Valle left on Saturday last to resume their labors as school teachers. Miss Blanche Boyer, of Bloomsdale, and Miss _______ Aubuchon, of French Village, who have been spending a few weeks here, the guests of the Misses Detchemendy, returned home on Saturday last. Messrs. William E. and Frederick Gilbert, sons of Judge Gilbert, of St. Mary, who have been up from their home at Cairo, Ill., to attend the 75th birthday of their father, expected to return the next day, were detained several days by the running ice in the river which prevented the crossing at Chester.

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 3, 1885. -- John Ayers probably knows by this time that it is not well done to fool around the yard with a loaded gun. On Friday of last week he did so and, the consequence was, Mr. Mitchell's best horse had a hole put through his body. It was supposed that the animal's bladder was hurt, but at last accounts he was still alive. "Touch not, handle not." -- Our readers will perhaps be surprised to see the HERALD appear this week as a half sheet. We know they will excuse us when they come to think that this is the first time since the establishment of the paper that we ask their indulgence. Besides, they will have their full 52 numbers, a year, without counting the half sheet, within three years, as they gain one week's issue on us in 1887; the first volume commenced May 6, 1882, the sixth will commence April 30, 1887. -- Sheep-pelt and felt-boots excellent for people troubled with rheumatism, also a large assortment of foot-wear suitable for all who are not inclined to go barefooted the coming winter. Call at 28-6w C. BAUM 'S. -- We learn from the Jefferson Democrat that a party of peddlers - they call themselves Chicago men -- has made its appearance in Jefferson county, and is fleecing the people to the tune of $75 or thereabouts for goods that could be got much cheaper at home. It don't appear whether they also tell thrilling tales to move the sympathizing hearts of the simple country folk, as did the Frenchman, some time ago, who sold the costly imported shawl intended as a present for his sister, whom he could not find, at a ridiculously low price, just to get a little money to take him on his way to New Orleans, where his sister was reported to be, and who had succeeded in disposing of a dozen or so of the shawls, before the people became aware that he was a swindler. All we have to say in regard to such transactions is: Buy your necessaries at home, where a merchant cannot afford to take the advantage of you, and not of strangers whom you may never see again and who are certainly not looking out for your benefit.

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 3, 1885. BORN. On Monday, Dec. 29, 1884, to the wife of Mr. Frank Pfaff, of Zell, a boy.

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 3, 1885. PERSONAL MENTION. -- Mr. Andrew Siebert, of St. Mary, spent several days in town this week. -- Mr. G. M. Cetto, teacher of the New Bremen school, is in our city this week enjoying the Christmas Holidays. -- Mr. William Leavenworth, who has been in St. Louis for some time past, returned home Friday last on a visit to his many friends. -- Mr. Henry Knamm, foreman of the HERALD, took the overland route for the Future Great, Saturday morning, where he spent the Holidays. -- Mr. Joseph Vorst, Jr., and Mr. H. Clay Ziegler went to Farmington Monday morning, to get a load of beer for the Southern Hotel Saloon. They returned Tuesday and report that the roads are in a very bad condition. -- Mr. Valle Harold, of Greenville, Ill., made his unexpected appearance in our city Thursday night. Valle was evidently after his New Year's --- yum. -- Mr. Smith Boyce returned home from Farmington, Thursday last.

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 3, 1885. LOCAL NEWS. List of Letters Remaining in the P. O. at Ste. Genevieve, Mo., Jan. 2, 1885. Burnet John Fry Caty Hoog Mary McClure Mary Maybery James Amster John Girard Louis Jokerst Mary Millen [Miller ?] John Schaefer John Tucker Bten [Ben ?] Persons calling for letters in the above list will please say "advertised". Augustine Menard, P.M. ---------------------------------------------------------- HOTEL ARRIVALS FOR WEEK ENDING JAN. 2. MEYER'S HOTEL. John M. Doss, W. H. Leavenworth, St. Louis; H. C. Bequette, Ste. Genevieve; R. L. Evans, H. H. Cozens, Avon; Phil. A. Robinson, New Offenburg. ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Wheat, 68. -- Write it "1885." -- "Mud, mud everywhere," is the complaint of the farmer. -- Our "quid nunc" has left us in the lurch this week, and local news is almost as scarce as mail matter. -- We learn with pleasure that our friend Xavier Eckenfels is rapidly recovering from his attack of sickness. -- Flannels, Yarn, and other Woolen Goods, very cheap at MRS. J. FALK & SON. -- Our esteemed contemporary calls it "durned cussedness." You are mistaken, brother, it's a highly developed "Sense of the Humorous." -- The clerk in charge of the meteorological department evidently made a mistake; our local weather prophets are vindicated; the winter is an open one. -- Water and snow-proof boots warranted, on hand at C. BAUM 'S. -- "White Christmas and green Easter" is an old saying. If the latter don't last any longer than the former, greens will be scarce by Easter time. -- Heavy warm rains at short intervals from Saturday morning till Monday morning made the snow and ice disappear in a marvelously short time. -- Big bargains in heavy Underwear, Gloves, Mitts, Neckwear, Silk Handkerchiefs, Suspenders, White and Fancy Shirts at C. W. HAMM 's. -- Our assessor, Mr. Frank J. Huck, had more holidays than he had bargained for, the closing of the river having delayed the arrival of his assessment book. -- Mr. Joseph Sucher has rented the farm of Mr. Peter Lalumendiere, on the Little Saline, for a term of three years. We hope he will have better luck than he has had for the last few years. -- Cashmere Suits and Overcoats for men and boys at very low figures at C. W. HAMM'S. -- We remind those of our readers who receive the American Farmer, that the publisher of that paper is a strict businessman, and stops the paper as soon as the subscription has expired. Those wishing to renew should do so promptly. -- Men's and Boy's heavy Undershirts at 25cts at C. W. HAMM'S. -- Several boats tried to make their way to St. Louis this week, but one of them turned back South in disgust, and the other got caught in the ice near the point in the Big Field, where she has lain since Thursday. -- The thanks of "ye editor" are due to the guignolee (?) led by Messrs. Felix Govro, Gus LaChance and Louis Dell for their gentlemanly behavior and the skill with which they executed their performance on their visit last Wednesday night. -- Kilcullen, the well known commission merchant of St. Louis, is said to have failed. Several of our merchants, who have had dealings with him, will sustain losses, if the rumor is correct. The severest loss will probably fall on Mr. George Messinger, of Quarrytown, who sent his whole barley crop to him last summer and is still waiting for the money. -- One of the gang of boys who, as is usual on Christmas night, sought their fun in carrying off gates, pulling down swinging signs and twisting them out of shape, and committing other "deeds of valor", managed to make a regular spec out of it this year. The morning after Christmas he presented himself before the owner of one of the gates he had carried off and offered to find and bring back the gate for 50 cents. Knowing exactly where the gate was, he collected his half dollar sooner than was agreeable to his dupe.

Ste. Genevieve Herald, Ste. Genevieve, Missouri, Saturday, Jan. 3, 1885. FROM STONY POINT, MO. -- Owing to an overproduction of mud, the people can scarcely get about. -- We are glad to note the fact that Mr. Oberle, who has been sick for the past few weeks, is convalescing. -- Mr. Porter was sadly surprised one morning last week to find his fine horse lying dead in the well. The animal, while walking around the well in his search for water, fell in and was drowned. -- Never was there as great a number of deer killed in this vicinity as last week. I have not yet ascertained a correct statement of the number killed, and will, therefore, defer it until next week. -- I was favored with an opportunity of visiting our young friend Charles P. Boyer in his school one day last week and was much delighted to see how it is progressing. Charley is striving for eminence in his vocation and will undoubtedly become a good teacher. -- DIED: Dec. 24, 1884, Mr. R. G. Waggener, one of the oldest landmarks of the present generation of Jefferson county. He was nearly 90 years old and as ripe with honors as he was with years. He was one of the few surviving veterans who served under Gen. Jackson at the battle of New Orleans. JEFFERSON.

When I read about the floods in Germany in the paper it causes me to wonder. My ancestor, Peter Mueller/Miller left Mo. just before 1880 and returned to Germany.His wife had recently died. He left my great grandmother and her brother with neighbors in two different counties and never returned. Perhaps he went to help family from the flooding. Sometmes I see Millers with mail waiting at the post office in your posts, but I have no idea if they could be related to mine. I know that Peter Miller and Dorthula Gibboney were maried in 1865 in this county and their oldest child was born there in 1869. This is all long before the paper was published. I have not seen any mention of Gibboneys in the paper, but I have hoped that her family was from the area. My great grandmother was given to the Betzler family in Madison Co. and is on the 1880 census listed as other in family category. Her brother Thomas Herbert Miller is listed as servent on the Wayne Co. Mo.1880 census. So my family may not have stayed in the area. My great grandmother clearly recalled living in St. Marys and in Cape Giradeau, but she was a teen by then. Have you ever heard of anything that could help me find out about Germans who went back to Germany during this time frame? Or ever heard of any Gibboneys? Karen Moore Kerr __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I'd like to join the chorus and thank Sue Resinger and any others who might be involved in the transcriptions of the Ste. Genevieve Herald. It's a real plus to read about our ancestors and the cultural context of their daily lives. Thanks Sue!!! Ken Boyer (son of Fidelis) and grandson of William and great-grandson of John J., Jean Philippe, Jacques, Nicholas III, Nicolas II, Nicolas I, and Etienne

Hello: Thanks for the m.l. re William H. Smith and Mary Ellen Mackley. Mary is the sister of Isoble Johanna (Anna) Mackley Shannon who is my grandmother. I have a picture of the both of them taken in the 1930's when Mary came to Michigan to visit my grandmother. If anyone out there would like a copy will be happy to send one. Fran

IT was locked when I was there also. No Trespassing signs are posted. Almost missed it to. Lucky I was with someone who knew the area. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie" <vnhsnh@yahoo.com> To: <MOSTEGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MOSTEGEN] Stone Church Cemetery- Kennons and Cheesebroughs > Well, if you're going from Ste. Genevieve, you will travel out Hwy 32 towards Farmington. Make a left on Hwy B, just over Hwy 55. Follow Hwy B to Coffman where it will basically deadend with two other highways: F to the right and WW to the left. Turn left on WW and follow that around the new Crown Winery, you'll be passing several fields of grapevines. The road to the cemetery will be on your left. > The last time I was there was about 2 years ago, honestly, and then it was padlocked with a sign. However, Audrey Steffee just sent me several photos of the cemetery (for http://stegenevieve.net/cemeteries/cem-oldstone.htm) and she said that she was there a year ago, and there was no padlocking, etc. If you visit that page, there is also a picture she sent me of the sign at the end of the road. > Oh also, the road to the cemetery is between two houses (or a house and a trailer, not sure) - but if you are looking you shouldn't miss it. If you get to this funny looking intersection that catches you off guard if you aren't paying attention (basically the highway goes sorta left and if you go straight you are on a gravel road, New Church Road; Haney Cemetery is right there) - if you get there, you've gone too far. > Actually.... some ancestors of yours have photos on that page as well.... I have two more photos to put up but am changing servers very soon and so I haven't had a chance to yet. > > Hope this helps... > valerie > > > RMendelson@aol.com wrote: > We are going to be in Ste. Genevieve in July. Can anyone give me specific > directions to the Stone Church Cemetery? Also, is the cemetery locked up or open? > Do I need to make specific arrangements to visit? > I am descended from the Cheesebrough families buried there and am also > related to Maggie Kennon who is buried there. Maggie was the daughter of Mary > Cheesebrough and John Kennon. I believe John was the son of Hughes Owen Kennon and > Margaret Irby. I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching these lines. > Thanks in advance! > Shirley Mendelson > > > ==== MOSTEGEN Mailing List ==== > To change the form you receive messages in (digest or mail mode), refer to your welcome letter or go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostegen/queries.html for instructions. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Valerie Holifield > www.holifieldweb.net > www.stegenevieve.net > > > > > > ==== MOSTEGEN Mailing List ==== > To change the form you receive messages in (digest or mail mode), refer to your welcome letter or go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostegen/queries.html for instructions. > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mackley/CemMapImages/SteGenevieve2Map.jpg Shirley, It is suppose to be #56 on this map. I can't give more specific directions, but thought this might help some. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <RMendelson@aol.com> To: <MOSTEGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: [MOSTEGEN] Stone Church Cemetery- Kennons and Cheesebroughs > We are going to be in Ste. Genevieve in July. Can anyone give me specific > directions to the Stone Church Cemetery? Also, is the cemetery locked up or open? > Do I need to make specific arrangements to visit? > I am descended from the Cheesebrough families buried there and am also > related to Maggie Kennon who is buried there. Maggie was the daughter of Mary > Cheesebrough and John Kennon. I believe John was the son of Hughes Owen Kennon and > Margaret Irby. I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching these lines. > Thanks in advance! > Shirley Mendelson > > > ==== MOSTEGEN Mailing List ==== > To change the form you receive messages in (digest or mail mode), refer to your welcome letter or go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~mostegen/queries.html for instructions. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

We are going to be in Ste. Genevieve in July. Can anyone give me specific directions to the Stone Church Cemetery? Also, is the cemetery locked up or open? Do I need to make specific arrangements to visit? I am descended from the Cheesebrough families buried there and am also related to Maggie Kennon who is buried there. Maggie was the daughter of Mary Cheesebrough and John Kennon. I believe John was the son of Hughes Owen Kennon and Margaret Irby. I would be pleased to hear from anyone researching these lines. Thanks in advance! Shirley Mendelson

I have not found a marriage document for this couple. "Our Parents Robert Lee and Glenna Jewell Smith Their Descendants Their Ancestors" by Robert M Smith, does not have a marriage certificate for them either. He refers to census for approx. marriage date. There are copies of their pictures as well a one of Jesse Parker and Isabelle Faulkner Mackley. (Solomon's parents) The information from Mary Mackley Maples and Bud Thackery, (began Mackley research in the 1960's)doesn't contain marriage info. The information isn't found at Ste.Genevieve (unless buried somewhere) and isn't in the counties by Brian Oster. Could it be registered in a more distant county?? Sandy