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    1. [MORIPLEY] Wondering out loud
    2. Kenneth G. Jarrett
    3. I have been reading everyone's comments regarding Enemy Women and I was especially interested in Mr. Ray Burson's review. it seems to me what Mr. Burson is says, with out naming the event or family, is that the Wilson Massacre at Pullium's farm never occurred. It has been awhile since there has been any mention of the Wilson Massacre, also know as Battle Hallow on this list. My gggrandfather William Clinton Jarrett was a member of H Company, 15th Missouri State Militia CSA. While H.Company was not involved at Pullium's farm, I have been interested in the story and have found that there has been a great deal written about the event from many sources. My conclusion at this time is that a massacre did occur at Pullium's Farm on December 25th, 1863, killing 100 of which 35 were civilians. Jerry Ponder quotes a Captain Robert McElroy of the Union Army, who was passing through Doniphan Missouri on November 4 as saying "I am of the opinion that the women of the region are even more daring and treacherous, and, in fact, worse than the men." This may add credence to the book Enemy Women. Ken Jarrett

    07/14/2002 04:18:01
    1. RE: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women
    2. Cannady
    3. The 1860 Census for Ripley County has the following as heads of household in Doniphan: Lemuel Kittrell George Lee Waugh Aden Lowe J. N. Hedgpeth J. P. Fisher J. M. Stephens Anthony Kittrell (Bl) D. A. Lee J. H. Dudley W. P Kreps William Leathers Richard Brooks J. W. Souther S. A. Tucker William L. Russell E. H. Glover Samuel Lee Nancy Beasley -----Original Message----- From: Debra Strasbaugh [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women Could we have a list of the families that lived in the 18 houses, or a listing of the 99 residence at the time of the civil war? Debra

    07/14/2002 12:14:01
    1. Re: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women
    2. P&C Winkler
    3. I think the Ripley County Historical Society put out a special edition re the Civil War a few years ago. You might check with them. I believe it was in conjunction with a major re-enactment camp that took place there several years ago. The book is very good. I hope you can get ahold of one. Yes, there really was a prison in St. Louis that housed women and children. Gratiot Street prison. See this link for a little more information: http://www.civilwarstlouis.com/Gratiot/gratiotfaq.htm I also think it's great that we're learning about oral family histories on this link. . . I"m thinking specifically about the one from a few days ago regarding a family helping slaves pass into safety in Ripley County. And I'm only an in-law of Ripley County people. :) Cindy Winkler [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: R/B Smith <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women > > > I have been told that it is possible, this book is going to be made into a movie. > > Does historians know if there were actually women and children held in prisons in the St. Louis area, during the Civil War, as the book mentions? > > This book has made me want to know more about what happened, for real, in and around Ripley Co. Are there any non-fiction books written about this area during the Civil War? > > B Smith > > > Subject: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women > > > Due to the recent interest in this book that while fiction, is of > interest to those of us who love Ripley County, I am forwarding this book > review by Ray Burson with his permisison. > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    07/13/2002 06:04:38
    1. Re: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women
    2. P&C Winkler
    3. Thanks for forwarding this, Shirley. There are very few writers of historical fiction who are entirely accurate. How can they be? We weren't there. But in my opinion, folks know when they pick up a novel that it is, in fact, a work of fiction. Mr. Burson obviously knows his history, and I don't dispute anything he says in his review, because I don't know otherwise. However, at the time of the Civil War, Ripley County accounted for a substantial part of Missouri's population and Doniphan was (is) the county seat. So it can't be dismissed as inconsequential because of its sparse population. Paulette Jiles did her job, I think, in making us aware of some of the county's history that perhaps we would not have considered otherwise. As has Mr. Burson. This is the best email loop I belong to. Keep it coming, folks. :) Cindy Winkler [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Shirley A Scott <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:58 PM Subject: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women > Due to the recent interest in this book that while fiction, is of > interest to those of us who love Ripley County, I am forwarding this book > review by Ray Burson with his permisison. > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > February 23, 2002 > Ron Charles, Book Review Editor > Christian Science Monitor > > Dear Editor: > > Paulette Jiles' Civil War novel, "Enemy Women" (CSM 2/21/02) is > certainly good fiction. The narrative holds the reader's attention and > the > imagery shows the author's poetic skills. However, your review is off > the mark > when you describe her as "a remarkably effective historian." > > One should be wary of the Missouri Civil War history that Ms. Jiles > promulgates, especially in the novel's prologue. At the outset of the > Civil War, Doniphan, MO, population 99, was a crude hamlet of 18 houses > around a wooden courthouse. The county's citizens, though largely > pro-South, did not all flock to the southern cause. Many fled and > others tried to remain neutral. Ripley County was a no-man's land > throughot the > war as both sides committed depredations while trying to exercise > control. > > The author's description of a massacre of 60 civilians at a farm > southwest of Doniphan on Christmas Day, 1863, is fiction, not fact. In > the > skirmish Union forces killed some 35 Confederates, captured over 100 and > freed some 100 Union prisoners. There were no casualties on the Federal > side. > There are no eyewitness or other contemporary written reports that > document > the killing of civilians. The allegation of a "massacre" was made only > recently by a local historian trying to convert family legend into > historical fact. > > Ms. Jiles does make effective use of excerpts from historical documents, > even though many don't refer to southeast Missouri. One should read > this book for its romance and its drama while remembering that its > rendition > of history provides more flavor than fact. > > Sincerely yours, > Ray Burson > Ripley County Historical Society > 101 Washington St. > Doniphan, MO 63935 > (tel. 573-996-2827 or 996-4384) > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    07/13/2002 05:52:35
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: Wagon Train to Texas 1876
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Emmons, Lemon/Lemmons, Carr, Waters, Odom Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/574.1.2 Message Board Post: In 1843 William Carr married Rhoda Foy in Little Rock AR. Record shows she was from Little Rock and he from Memphis. My gg grandmother married a Carr about that time. Her previous names were Lemmon and Ward. She could have married a Foy then married a Carr. Her Carr son was born in 1845. She lived in Ripley Co. Mo 1840 and after 1850 then married a Waters and moved to Van Buren Co. AR.Her Carr husband was killed. I can find no record of her marriage to a Carr under any known names.

    07/13/2002 04:15:31
    1. Re: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women
    2. R/B Smith
    3. I have been told that it is possible, this book is going to be made into a movie. Does historians know if there were actually women and children held in prisons in the St. Louis area, during the Civil War, as the book mentions? This book has made me want to know more about what happened, for real, in and around Ripley Co. Are there any non-fiction books written about this area during the Civil War? B Smith Subject: [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women Due to the recent interest in this book that while fiction, is of interest to those of us who love Ripley County, I am forwarding this book review by Ray Burson with his permisison.

    07/13/2002 03:34:14
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: Lowe
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/721.723.722.725.1 Message Board Post: I believe I am related to Wylie Lowe. My father, Merril is the son of Arthur, son of Aide Boliver (really Abraham and on one cesus as A. B.), son of Wylie, son of Richard C. Wylie and Aden moved from Hickman Co. to the Donipahn area in SE Mo. in the late 1840's early 1850's. Aden die in the battle of Fredericktown, Mo. His widow married a Ponder in Doniphan who adopted Adens children. One of Adens descendents (though with the last name of Ponder) recently told my brother that he thought that Richards father was named Jesse and had migrated from the Abbeyville, SC area. We have no proof of that. We would like to hear from anyone that has info on any aspect or segment of the family. Jerry Lowe Houston, Texas

    07/13/2002 03:05:42
    1. [MORIPLEY] [ADMIN] Review of Enemy Women
    2. Shirley A Scott
    3. Due to the recent interest in this book that while fiction, is of interest to those of us who love Ripley County, I am forwarding this book review by Ray Burson with his permisison. --------- Forwarded message ---------- February 23, 2002 Ron Charles, Book Review Editor Christian Science Monitor Dear Editor: Paulette Jiles' Civil War novel, "Enemy Women" (CSM 2/21/02) is certainly good fiction. The narrative holds the reader's attention and the imagery shows the author's poetic skills. However, your review is off the mark when you describe her as "a remarkably effective historian." One should be wary of the Missouri Civil War history that Ms. Jiles promulgates, especially in the novel's prologue. At the outset of the Civil War, Doniphan, MO, population 99, was a crude hamlet of 18 houses around a wooden courthouse. The county's citizens, though largely pro-South, did not all flock to the southern cause. Many fled and others tried to remain neutral. Ripley County was a no-man's land throughot the war as both sides committed depredations while trying to exercise control. The author's description of a massacre of 60 civilians at a farm southwest of Doniphan on Christmas Day, 1863, is fiction, not fact. In the skirmish Union forces killed some 35 Confederates, captured over 100 and freed some 100 Union prisoners. There were no casualties on the Federal side. There are no eyewitness or other contemporary written reports that document the killing of civilians. The allegation of a "massacre" was made only recently by a local historian trying to convert family legend into historical fact. Ms. Jiles does make effective use of excerpts from historical documents, even though many don't refer to southeast Missouri. One should read this book for its romance and its drama while remembering that its rendition of history provides more flavor than fact. Sincerely yours, Ray Burson Ripley County Historical Society 101 Washington St. Doniphan, MO 63935 (tel. 573-996-2827 or 996-4384)

    07/13/2002 01:58:39
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: Wagon Train to Texas 1876
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy/Whitley Co.,Ky. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/574.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello,I would be interested in knowing if there were any (MURPHYS)listed on this wagon train?Would like to hear from you on this.Thank you.

    07/13/2002 03:54:54
    1. [MORIPLEY] Fw: {not a subscriber} Scott family of Ripley County
    2. Shirley A Scott
    3. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Nadeen McOsker" <[email protected]> Hello List, I need information for Julia Scott who is the daughter of Solomon D. Scott & Frances Hopkins. Julia was born in Sept. 1890 and she died in 1935 in Ripley County, MO. Family information says that Julia was killed by her husband, however, I do not know who she married. I found her grave in Oakgrove Cemetery with those of her parents. She is buried as a "Scott". Any help would be appreciated on this family. I would love to have a copy of her obit from the newspaper as that should shed light on her death. Thank you! Nadeen [email protected]

    07/13/2002 03:29:56
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: The Foy Girls
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/916.1 Message Board Post: Hello Robert -- I posted a reply to your earlier note. Yes, please contact me directly at [email protected] David Foy

    07/12/2002 08:16:47
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: The Foy Girls
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Foy, Parrish, Sims Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/478.1.1 Message Board Post: Robert, please forgive the very long time it took to reply. Yes, there is no doubt Maude Polly Foy is a relative. I'd appreciate the chance to exchange any information we can. Thanks for your note David Foy

    07/12/2002 08:13:47
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: Wagon Train to Texas 1876
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/574.1 Message Board Post: I documented this wagon train, and the one two years earlier, in a memorandum which I gave to Phoebe Braeschler at the Historical Society in Doniphan at the end of last June. The documents cited were memoirs of elderly people who had been on the journey. Much of the document I gave Phoebe is specific to my family and unlikely to interest you. If you live in Donipahan you should take a look at it. If not send your e-mail address and I'll forward it to you. David Foy

    07/12/2002 08:10:38
    1. [MORIPLEY] MARRIAGE RECORDS McNabb-Gardner
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/945 Message Board Post: Found these in my research papers. None of my family but hopefully they will help someone else. Will scan and send copy of my copy if requested. This is to Certify that on the 23rd day of February, 1879, I joined in marriage Mr. Milton McNabb and Miss Adora gardener at the residence of Mr. G. W. McElrach in Ripley County, Mo. W. H. Cook, Minister of the Gospel Filed 1st March 1879, A. J. McCullum, Recorder

    07/11/2002 01:17:07
    1. [MORIPLEY] RECORDS OF MARRIAGE, Gilmar-Ward, Shrounk-Morris
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZNB.2ACI/944 Message Board Post: Found these in my research papers. None of my family but hopefully they will help someone else. Will scan and send copy of my copy if requested. This is to certify that I, G. W. Newkirk, a Justice of the Peace, within and for the County of Ripley, did Solomize the rights of Matrimony between Thomas A. Gilmar of Stoddard County Mo., and Miss Bertha A. Ward of Ripley County Mo. on the 1st day of November 1875. G.W. Newkirk, J.P. Filed Feb 26th 1879 A. J. McCollum recorder by W. T. Stepp, deputy. State of Missouri, County of Ripley This is to certify that Abram M. Shrounk and Mary C. Morris were joined together in the Bonds of Matrimony on the 10th day of Nov 1878 by the undersigned Justice of the Peace this 15th Feb, 1879. Wm. B. Mitchener, Justice of the Peace Washingron, Tp., Ripley Co., Mo. filed Feb 28th 1879 A. J. McCullum, Recorder

    07/11/2002 01:12:31
    1. [MORIPLEY] Re: Ezekiel D. Smith descendants
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: smith/rodgers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZNB.2ACI/630.632.1.1 Message Board Post: I recieved in the mail today the death certificates of my Lena Irilla Smith. It lists her father as being HARRISON SMITH from TN, and her mother as being LUCENDO RDrock(spelling unclear from the typewriter) I swear thats what I see. I know that her mothers grandfather or grandmother was Cherokee . There is in the family a picture of the Indian woman and I am suppose to go get a copy of that this weekend. On the death certificate it lists Lena's birthdate as being 3 sept. 1875.

    07/10/2002 04:31:44
  1. 07/10/2002 05:15:06
    1. Re: [MORIPLEY] Book- ENEMY WOMEN by Paulette Jiles-[Colley Family]- Setting N...
    2. P&C Winkler
    3. Try Barnes & Noble.com (www.bn.com). They will ship it for free if you order two or more books. . . . it's a good one, Enemy Women. Cindy Winkler [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Book- ENEMY WOMEN by Paulette Jiles-[Colley Family]- Setting N... > Were can you buy the book Enemy Women? > Mary > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    07/10/2002 04:34:09
    1. Re: [MORIPLEY] Book- ENEMY WOMEN by Paulette Jiles-[Colley Family]- Setting N...
    2. To add to tanimaras great depiction of the Buck Skull area you can check page 39 in the History and Families of Ripley County book. The Currentview history tells all about Buck Skull. Everyone interested in Ripley County needs this book!

    07/10/2002 01:29:23
    1. Re: [MORIPLEY] Buck Skull
    2. Jackie
    3. Sandy, Buck Skull has been called many names. Here is a little history on it. A very small village in Harris Township on current River. Being on a navigable stream, steam boats came this far in the early days and it became quite a little village. during the late 1880s and 1890s. Thomas J. Wilson who owned the land, laid out the lots and several houses sprang up. The post office was established about 1895, and the name Currentview given, one informant under stands, by Thomas J. Wilson, from whose home one could get a beautiful view of the river Current for some distance. Up to this time, the place, a mere trading-post on the river, was known as Buck Skull, but the exact origin of the name is shrouded in legend. One reports that a large buck was kelled and the skull hung up at the post; another that in 1858, the place wask already known by this name; another informant was told by J. R. Kelly that he saw the skull. There were many deer in the section and hunting and trapping were important industries. The Indian village that was here was called Dona Wali. The trading post that was located there as early as 1804 was called Dona Wali and was of considerable importance for the fur trading in the early pioneer days. I am Cherokee and can tell you that the name is of Cherokee origin. But I will have to check with my sources to find the meaning as I do not speak the language well enough to know for sure. Currentview was also known as Pitman's Ferry for the ferry operated there. This area was of extreme military importance during the Civil War as the Military Road crosses the river at this point and Ft. Currentview was located near here. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandra <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Book- ENEMY WOMEN by Paulette Jiles-[Colley Family]- Setting N... > I have been looking for a history or anything written about Buck Skull. You are the 1st person I have ever seen ,.... mention it. My gr. gr.father was reportedly killed by an Indian uprising at Buck Skull ,..... as near as I can place the date,.... mid to late 1870's. I haven't been able to find anything about it. Do you know where I could search? Any help will be appreciated !! Thank you, > Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cannady > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:11 PM > Subject: RE: [MORIPLEY] Book- ENEMY WOMEN by Paulette Jiles-[Colley Family]- Setting N... > > > There is a Colley farm on Current River just north of Current View, which > was known as Buckskull during the Civil War. I haven't read the book, but > does it mention Buckskull? > > Peggy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Book- ENEMY WOMEN by Paulette Jiles-[Colley > Family]- Setting N... > > > Hello and isn't that just the best book! I have also been trying to > pin-point the area and the best I can do is north-east of Doniphan in the > Grandin area. That is Johnson Township, not Jackson as Miss Jiles uses, but > alot of the landmarks are in that area like "Devils Backbone", Little Black > River. I believe the Old Military Road went through there also. I hope > this > helps and if any of this information is wrong, hopefully someone out there > will correct me. I wish I knew more as I was born in Doniphan but left when > I was 13 so all of this history is news to me too even at the "tender age" > of > 70. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    07/09/2002 04:10:37