I remember my mother making my sister and I dresses out of flour sacks with matching panties. She also made a coat for my brother by making her own pattern. Thanks for reminding me. Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cannady" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: [MORIPLEY] RE: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] new topic/HEIRLOOMS > > > My maternal grandmother, Cillar Bellah, lived with us when she died (I > was three) She had an old trunk that had my grandfather's papers in it. > When grandma died, mom also put some special little things of grandma's > in the trunk. While I was still at home, when my mom was feeling blue, > she would go through the things in the trunk and tell me the stories > about them. One item was a perfume bottle. When Cillar's parents > married in 1863, her father gave her mother a bottle of perfume as a > wedding gift. It is a small cut glass bottle with a tall green glass > plume on the top. When I married, my mother gave this bottle to me. It > is displayed front and center in my china closet! > > My mother was a very talented seamstress, making clothes for many of the > ladies in town, as well as their children. She also quilted and > crocheted. She made her patterns out of brown paper sacks, holding them > up to the person and cutting them out to fit. When I was a kid, before > school started, she would hand me the Sears & Roebucks, Spiegel and > Aldens catalogs and tell me to pick out what I wanted for school. She > would make whatever I wanted out of flour sacks. ANYWAY, she always had > a quilt in the frame. She would use the clothes we had outgrown to make > the quilt blocks out of. I have 10 brothers and sisters and she made > each of us a quilt as a wedding gift. I have never used mine (All > Around the World pattern) - it is displayed on a quilt rack. But it is > fun when we visit each other to go down memory lane with our quilts. > "Oh, that's the dress I wore when..." > > And, speaking of new heirlooms, when I was a teenager there was a new > Fred's Dollar Store in town. I decided to start my hope chest and my > favorite color was blue. Fred's had blue carnival glass and I would use > my allowance to buy a few pieces every week. I have EVERY piece you can > imagine. I know I paid 50 cents each for the glasses, can't remember > the rice of the rest, but do you know how expensive this stuff is in the > antique shops now? This is also displayed in my china cabinet, as well > as the china and crystal that I bought one piece per week at the grocery > store - you know where you buy $5.00 worth of groceries and get a piece > for $.89 or some such (well, then, anyway.) I used the china and blue > carnival glass to serve dinner for my first wedding anniversary in 1975. > On my 25th anniversary, I pulled it all out and served the same dinner > and had to tell my kids all about it again. I just hope it means as > much to them as it has to me! > > Peggy > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
To all; Had to jump into this conversation. I remember my grandmother making the biggest pan of home made biscuits I had ever seen. They ran a store at Clines Island, not in Ripley county, but she had a long stick with something on the end of it so she could reach those high shelves. She was only about 4'9". Frances and Arthur Condict were their names. She would make her own clothes and use those bags or that paper from the store for the pattern. She also would make those homemade quilts and she always had a huge garden so she could help feed everyone around. After she died my grandfather started canning his own food. What memories those were. My other grandfather born in Ripley county would take a huge aluminum pan and make homemade lemonade. We would roll them until they were soft and boy that would be the best stuff you ever tasted. Sheila B >From: "Loretta Mann" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] RE: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] new topic/HEIRLOOMS >Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:09:51 -0400 > >I remember my mother making my sister and I dresses out of flour sacks with >matching panties. She also made a coat for my brother by making her own >pattern. Thanks for reminding me. Loretta >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cannady" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:14 AM >Subject: [MORIPLEY] RE: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] new topic/HEIRLOOMS > > > > > > > > My maternal grandmother, Cillar Bellah, lived with us when she died (I > > was three) She had an old trunk that had my grandfather's papers in it. > > When grandma died, mom also put some special little things of grandma's > > in the trunk. While I was still at home, when my mom was feeling blue, > > she would go through the things in the trunk and tell me the stories > > about them. One item was a perfume bottle. When Cillar's parents > > married in 1863, her father gave her mother a bottle of perfume as a > > wedding gift. It is a small cut glass bottle with a tall green glass > > plume on the top. When I married, my mother gave this bottle to me. It > > is displayed front and center in my china closet! > > > > My mother was a very talented seamstress, making clothes for many of the > > ladies in town, as well as their children. She also quilted and > > crocheted. She made her patterns out of brown paper sacks, holding them > > up to the person and cutting them out to fit. When I was a kid, before > > school started, she would hand me the Sears & Roebucks, Spiegel and > > Aldens catalogs and tell me to pick out what I wanted for school. She > > would make whatever I wanted out of flour sacks. ANYWAY, she always had > > a quilt in the frame. She would use the clothes we had outgrown to make > > the quilt blocks out of. I have 10 brothers and sisters and she made > > each of us a quilt as a wedding gift. I have never used mine (All > > Around the World pattern) - it is displayed on a quilt rack. But it is > > fun when we visit each other to go down memory lane with our quilts. > > "Oh, that's the dress I wore when..." > > > > And, speaking of new heirlooms, when I was a teenager there was a new > > Fred's Dollar Store in town. I decided to start my hope chest and my > > favorite color was blue. Fred's had blue carnival glass and I would use > > my allowance to buy a few pieces every week. I have EVERY piece you can > > imagine. I know I paid 50 cents each for the glasses, can't remember > > the rice of the rest, but do you know how expensive this stuff is in the > > antique shops now? This is also displayed in my china cabinet, as well > > as the china and crystal that I bought one piece per week at the grocery > > store - you know where you buy $5.00 worth of groceries and get a piece > > for $.89 or some such (well, then, anyway.) I used the china and blue > > carnival glass to serve dinner for my first wedding anniversary in 1975. > > On my 25th anniversary, I pulled it all out and served the same dinner > > and had to tell my kids all about it again. I just hope it means as > > much to them as it has to me! > > > > Peggy > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Peggy, That was wonderful. Thank you for sharing that with us. Terry
What a lovely story -- thanks for sharing it with us, Peggy! Nancy
My maternal grandmother, Cillar Bellah, lived with us when she died (I was three) She had an old trunk that had my grandfather's papers in it. When grandma died, mom also put some special little things of grandma's in the trunk. While I was still at home, when my mom was feeling blue, she would go through the things in the trunk and tell me the stories about them. One item was a perfume bottle. When Cillar's parents married in 1863, her father gave her mother a bottle of perfume as a wedding gift. It is a small cut glass bottle with a tall green glass plume on the top. When I married, my mother gave this bottle to me. It is displayed front and center in my china closet! My mother was a very talented seamstress, making clothes for many of the ladies in town, as well as their children. She also quilted and crocheted. She made her patterns out of brown paper sacks, holding them up to the person and cutting them out to fit. When I was a kid, before school started, she would hand me the Sears & Roebucks, Spiegel and Aldens catalogs and tell me to pick out what I wanted for school. She would make whatever I wanted out of flour sacks. ANYWAY, she always had a quilt in the frame. She would use the clothes we had outgrown to make the quilt blocks out of. I have 10 brothers and sisters and she made each of us a quilt as a wedding gift. I have never used mine (All Around the World pattern) - it is displayed on a quilt rack. But it is fun when we visit each other to go down memory lane with our quilts. "Oh, that's the dress I wore when..." And, speaking of new heirlooms, when I was a teenager there was a new Fred's Dollar Store in town. I decided to start my hope chest and my favorite color was blue. Fred's had blue carnival glass and I would use my allowance to buy a few pieces every week. I have EVERY piece you can imagine. I know I paid 50 cents each for the glasses, can't remember the rice of the rest, but do you know how expensive this stuff is in the antique shops now? This is also displayed in my china cabinet, as well as the china and crystal that I bought one piece per week at the grocery store - you know where you buy $5.00 worth of groceries and get a piece for $.89 or some such (well, then, anyway.) I used the china and blue carnival glass to serve dinner for my first wedding anniversary in 1975. On my 25th anniversary, I pulled it all out and served the same dinner and had to tell my kids all about it again. I just hope it means as much to them as it has to me! Peggy
That certainly was interesting to read. Thanks; Sheila B >From: "the Hamiltons" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] RE: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] new topic/HEIRLOOMS >Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:47:56 -0500 > >What a lovely story -- thanks for sharing it with us, Peggy! >Nancy > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
What is the name for this album? Do you know? I had relatives in both counties, that is why I am asking. sheila b >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: MORIPLEY-D Digest V02 #178 >Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:01:36 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Jackie, You have ever right in asking for documentation. Those old albums are rather pricey on the market. I am so glad you were able to rescue it. So many people does not have any idea how valuable they are to some members of a family. I am always checking on e-bay and flea mkts. to see what they have for sale in old albums and old family bibles. Many sellers list names if they are available. So far I have not found any that might connect to my family, but I keep looking. Billie Rose, I have had a contact from a lady in CA that claims to be a relative. I have responded to her requiring documentation of relationship before turning this over to her. Am I out of line? The photo album has personal letter and documents in it that date back as early as 1916. Some Christmas cards, valentine cards, proof of innoculation from a Dr.... it's an amazing album. Leaving the family connection aside I figure the album is worth some money and Im sure some people would be greedy enough to think so too. So I want it to go to family not an antique dealer. There are about 10 tin types in it also. It's amazing. One letter speaks of some clothing a lady made for Christmas presents and what her husband got her for Christmas. The letter is dated 1921.... "John got me a white georgette waist, a black silk dress, and a player piano, and a new 9ft. X 12 ft rug. Mom got a player roll for me, Dad got me kid gloves and candy and then friends sent me lots of things besides my dear sis Beulah's presents. So you see I was well remembered......" Some of the correspondence is sent to and comes from IL, so this may be a connection.... Do you have any addresses or contact info on any of this family? Jackie > >
I think you should post some of the pictures, because there may be others in the pictures like friends that may connect them to the whole group.
could this album be conected to the pentington family on my grand mothers side? her mother was matilda pentington married to julius leroux that lived at doniphan. it might be some of her sisters or cousins good luck in your hunt please let us all know where it finaly goes. unalee
Jackie, No, I don't think your "out of line". Wow! Tin types! Those are valuable and it is important they eventually get to the proper family. Good luck. Good nite, too. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to find it's way home > Rose, > > I have had a contact from a lady in CA that claims to be a relative. I have > responded to her requiring documentation of relationship before turning this > over to her. Am I out of line? The photo album has personal letter and > documents in it that date back as early as 1916. Some Christmas cards, > valentine cards, proof of innoculation from a Dr.... it's an amazing album. > Leaving the family connection aside I figure the album is worth some money > and Im sure some people would be greedy enough to think so too. So I want > it to go to family not an antique dealer. There are about 10 tin types in > it also. It's amazing. One letter speaks of some clothing a lady made for > Christmas presents and what her husband got her for Christmas. > > The letter is dated 1921.... > > "John got me a white georgette waist, a black silk dress, and a player > piano, and a new 9ft. X 12 ft rug. Mom got a player roll for me, Dad got me > kid gloves and candy and then friends sent me lots of things besides my dear > sis Beulah's presents. So you see I was well remembered......" > > Some of the correspondence is sent to and comes from IL, so this may be a > connection.... Do you have any addresses or contact info on any of this > family? > > Jackie > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rose somraty and ron yarbrough <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to > find it's way home > > > > Jackie, There was a Casey Family that was connected with Naomi Pennington > > Powers and spouse John Wesley Powers. Naomi's sister Charity married a > > Casey. > > They moved to Illinois. However, I believe some of the family stayed in > MO. > > Many of the Power(s) family also moved to IL. > > Good luck. > > Rose > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to > > find it's way home > > > > > > > I couldn't very well leave it there... The old junk store was being sold > > > after the death of the couple that had owned it since the 30s. I was > > afraid > > > it would end up in the trash... Besides, If it were my family I would > > > certainly appreciate someone getting it back to me... Now to find them. > > > > > > Jackie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: GTTEM <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs > to > > > find it's way home > > > > > > > > > > Jackie, > > > > This is a wonderful thing you're doing. Just like the guy who sent > > me > > > my > > > > Black bible. Which in turn found a new cousin for me and now I have > new > > > > pictures of my family. YAY! > > > > A lot of people would have just passed the album and thought hmm, > > too > > > > bad that can't be re-united with it's family and left it sitting on > the > > > > shelf. > > > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Rose, I have had a contact from a lady in CA that claims to be a relative. I have responded to her requiring documentation of relationship before turning this over to her. Am I out of line? The photo album has personal letter and documents in it that date back as early as 1916. Some Christmas cards, valentine cards, proof of innoculation from a Dr.... it's an amazing album. Leaving the family connection aside I figure the album is worth some money and Im sure some people would be greedy enough to think so too. So I want it to go to family not an antique dealer. There are about 10 tin types in it also. It's amazing. One letter speaks of some clothing a lady made for Christmas presents and what her husband got her for Christmas. The letter is dated 1921.... "John got me a white georgette waist, a black silk dress, and a player piano, and a new 9ft. X 12 ft rug. Mom got a player roll for me, Dad got me kid gloves and candy and then friends sent me lots of things besides my dear sis Beulah's presents. So you see I was well remembered......" Some of the correspondence is sent to and comes from IL, so this may be a connection.... Do you have any addresses or contact info on any of this family? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: rose somraty and ron yarbrough <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to find it's way home > Jackie, There was a Casey Family that was connected with Naomi Pennington > Powers and spouse John Wesley Powers. Naomi's sister Charity married a > Casey. > They moved to Illinois. However, I believe some of the family stayed in MO. > Many of the Power(s) family also moved to IL. > Good luck. > Rose > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to > find it's way home > > > > I couldn't very well leave it there... The old junk store was being sold > > after the death of the couple that had owned it since the 30s. I was > afraid > > it would end up in the trash... Besides, If it were my family I would > > certainly appreciate someone getting it back to me... Now to find them. > > > > Jackie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: GTTEM <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to > > find it's way home > > > > > > > Jackie, > > > This is a wonderful thing you're doing. Just like the guy who sent > me > > my > > > Black bible. Which in turn found a new cousin for me and now I have new > > > pictures of my family. YAY! > > > A lot of people would have just passed the album and thought hmm, > too > > > bad that can't be re-united with it's family and left it sitting on the > > > shelf. > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Jackie, There was a Casey Family that was connected with Naomi Pennington Powers and spouse John Wesley Powers. Naomi's sister Charity married a Casey. They moved to Illinois. However, I believe some of the family stayed in MO. Many of the Power(s) family also moved to IL. Good luck. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to find it's way home > I couldn't very well leave it there... The old junk store was being sold > after the death of the couple that had owned it since the 30s. I was afraid > it would end up in the trash... Besides, If it were my family I would > certainly appreciate someone getting it back to me... Now to find them. > > Jackie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: GTTEM <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to > find it's way home > > > > Jackie, > > This is a wonderful thing you're doing. Just like the guy who sent me > my > > Black bible. Which in turn found a new cousin for me and now I have new > > pictures of my family. YAY! > > A lot of people would have just passed the album and thought hmm, too > > bad that can't be re-united with it's family and left it sitting on the > > shelf. > > > > Terry > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
I couldn't very well leave it there... The old junk store was being sold after the death of the couple that had owned it since the 30s. I was afraid it would end up in the trash... Besides, If it were my family I would certainly appreciate someone getting it back to me... Now to find them. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: GTTEM <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to find it's way home > Jackie, > This is a wonderful thing you're doing. Just like the guy who sent me my > Black bible. Which in turn found a new cousin for me and now I have new > pictures of my family. YAY! > A lot of people would have just passed the album and thought hmm, too > bad that can't be re-united with it's family and left it sitting on the > shelf. > > Terry > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Jackie, I'm so thrilled to hear about what you are doing. I go to Antique Shows and see old photos albums too. I think "how sad". Perhaps this can become a project in the locale where the albums are picked up at a sale? What a great idea. I'll try to remember it when I see a great Bible with pictures and ancestral history. Take care. Rose Powers Somraty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to find it's way home > I have purchased a very old family album at a flea market in Willow Springs > MO. This album is about 1900 and is filled with old family pictures, > picture postcards of the family, and old tin-types. The album is in very > poor condition but the pictures are in great shape. > > I find the name of Casey in it and correspondance from Montier MO over in > Shannon Co. Looks like Beullah Casey and family. Can anyone help me find > it's home? > > Jackie Wood > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Jackie, This is a wonderful thing you're doing. Just like the guy who sent me my Black bible. Which in turn found a new cousin for me and now I have new pictures of my family. YAY! A lot of people would have just passed the album and thought hmm, too bad that can't be re-united with it's family and left it sitting on the shelf. Terry
Could this photo album belong to one of your family members? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [MORIPLEY] Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Old Family Album needs to find it's wa... > <PRE>Just yesterday I found Joel Pace married to Barthena Casey in Jefferson > County IL Casner Twp. They were married 7-5-1855 Their daughter Martha J was > later married to my Grandfather James Samuel Cameron I used to live in > Mountain View MO. not too far from Willow Springs. WE did a lot of our > shopping there Small world! Reference to Jackie Wood > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
<PRE>Just yesterday I found Joel Pace married to Barthena Casey in Jefferson County IL Casner Twp. They were married 7-5-1855 Their daughter Martha J was later married to my Grandfather James Samuel Cameron I used to live in Mountain View MO. not too far from Willow Springs. WE did a lot of our shopping there Small world! Reference to Jackie Wood
I have purchased a very old family album at a flea market in Willow Springs MO. This album is about 1900 and is filled with old family pictures, picture postcards of the family, and old tin-types. The album is in very poor condition but the pictures are in great shape. I find the name of Casey in it and correspondance from Montier MO over in Shannon Co. Looks like Beullah Casey and family. Can anyone help me find it's home? Jackie Wood
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZNB.2ACI/543.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for info. I just found out that Leroy's mother wasnt cherokee it was apache. her name was france murray they were from arizona and new mexico indian and spanich descent his mother was full blooded apache and grandfather walked off the reservation listed as walk away. She never told his name...real family secrets i guess on this side.