This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XNB.2ACI/151.187.190.1 Message Board Post: I'm sorry but I have no information to offer you. The ancestors you mention appear no where in my family tree. The "Bales" middle name of my ancestor remains something of an enigma. Oddly, Harvey Bales WILLIAMS' father, Lilburn Johnson WILLIAMS has a middle name that also evokes question. Seems they both should have some relationship to those surnames--but they don't seem to. Good luck with your research.