Hello, fellow Riach Researchers, My children are descended from Patrick & Margaret (n RIACH) TAYLOR who was baptised on 7 May 1727 at Botrephine, Banff, daughter of Janet (n BREMNER) & William RIACH. Re WILSON: My children are also descended from Andrew & Janet (n WILSON) GAMMIE who was baptised 17 Sep 1731 at Achynachy, probably Banffshire, daughter of Janet (n SMITH) & Alexander WILSON who married in 1708 at Quarrelhead or Quarrel Head, probably also in Banffshire. Re CHALMERS: My children are further descended from Jane CHALMERS who married John MURRAY. Their daughter Janet MURRAY was born in 1801 and married stone quarrier David LOW on 1 July 1822, Dundee. Any connections anywhere? Best regards Christopher Ridings [email protected] > > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:50:17 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Riach of Rothes > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > Hello Norman, Sorry it's taken for ever to get back to you. I'm > Phillip, Dawn's husband -she is the researcher! > Quite excited by your potential info as I have little if any details > of the Riach's. > I can confirm however: > > My father was Colin SG Chalmers ---- > His mother was Isabella Riach-she married Colin Chalmers. > Isabella (or Dolly or the Duchess as she was known)parents were > William (*) Riach and Helen Mann > I have Wm's(*) parents as William Riach(**) and Isabella Palmer---- > This William (**)'s parents I have recorded as Alexander Riach and > Margaret Gillies, we cannot find them on the census together, nor a > marriage record? We have a birth entrance (1860) which states this > Wm (**) is illegitimate. > On Helen Mann's line we have, born Oct 15th 1880 to father John Mann > & Jessie Mann (formerly Wilson). John & Jessie married in 1877 in > May. John was a butcher (flesher), his father Charles had also been > a butcher. His mother was Lillie Donald. > Will await your response. > Phillip

Christopher Ridings wrote: >Re WILSON: My children are also descended from Andrew & Janet (n >WILSON) GAMMIE who was baptised 17 Sep 1731 at Achynachy, probably >Banffshire, > This is a little puzzling. Baptismal records are kept separately by each parish, so what is the source of this record of a baptism at "Achyndachy, probably Banffshire"? The placename itself is also a little problematic, as it is one that crops up, in various spellings, in various places. There are examples in the Banffshire parishes of Botriphnie, Fordyce and Keith (where there may actually be two such places - the evidence is ambiguous) and also in the Aberdeenshire parish of Cairnie. >daughter of Janet (n SMITH) & Alexander WILSON who married >in 1708 at Quarrelhead or Quarrel Head, probably also in Banffshire. > > The same comment has to be made about the marriage - records of marriages are also held separately by each parish, so a marriage recorded at "Quarrelhead" rather than in the records for an individual parish also sounds fishy. Gavin Bell

>>Re WILSON: My children are also descended from Andrew & Janet >>(n >>WILSON) GAMMIE who was baptised 17 Sep 1731 at Achynachy, >>probably >>Banffshire I'm totally baffled by this. Do you mean a child of Andrew Gammie and Janet Wilson, and was it the child or Andrew or Janet who was baptised in 1731? And did the child have a name? I see from the IGI that a couple of these names had 7 children between 1740 and 1762, all born in the parish of Marnoch, but where does 1731 come in? (Of course you need to look at all this information in the original because the IGI is neither 100% comprehensive nor 100% correct.) > This is a little puzzling. Baptismal records are kept > separately by > each parish, so what is the source of this record of a > baptism at > "Achyndachy, probably Banffshire"? > The placename itself is also a little problematic, as it is > one that > crops up, in various spellings, in various places. There are > examples > in the Banffshire parishes of Botriphnie, Fordyce and Keith > (where > there may actually be two such places - the evidence is > ambiguous) and > also in the Aberdeenshire parish of Cairnie. Also, was it Achynachy or Achyndachy? As Gavin says, these bits of information look a bit odd. Is there an Achyn(d)achy in Marnoch? >>daughter of Janet (n SMITH) & Alexander WILSON who married >>in 1708 at Quarrelhead or Quarrel Head, probably also in >>Banffshire. > The same comment has to be made about the marriage - records > of > marriages are also held separately by each parish, so a > marriage > recorded at "Quarrelhead" rather than in the records for an > individual > parish also sounds fishy. I see that the IGI lists a marriage of Alexander Wilson to Janet Smith on 26 June 1708 in Keith. This is 'extracted' from the parish register so is probably correct, but as ever with the IGI it is necessary to view the original document to be sure. The IGI also lists 10 children of this couple, all born in Keith and including Jannet, born 17 and baptised 19 September 1731, who is obviously much too young to be the wife of Andrew Gammie and mother of a child born in 1740. Yours, very confused Anne