Hi Bob, Those are very very interesting URLs. I'm on dial-up so before downloading massive heaps, do you know if there is anything about the place name Wester Geddes in the book of Cawdor papers? I was able to access Nairn Library's copy of Bain last year in the course of my research into the origins of the GEDDES surname, in particular the Lands Of Geddes. Bain mentions that a Wester Geddes that appears in various documents, but I haven't been able to find a single other reference anywhere - despite Meikle Geddes and Easter Geddes still existing today. After a deal of research on the ROSEs, BISSETs, de BOSCO and RAITs, as well as CALDERs, I believe that there is good reason to conclude that Cawdor Castle was built on Wester Geddes when the family moved out of Nairn (and hence the name disappeared). Having talked to the trustees at Cawdor, I was intending to study the family papers now at the NAS but we're talking about 13th/14th Century material and I was not confident of being able to interpret the writing. It would be great to hear if there any references in the book. Howard Geddes