Thanks for this Ian. I think this Alex jr. must have died. I have the death certs for this family. Adam Innes the father is b Gartly parish 1790, m Mgrt Milne 1811, Cairnie (Adam's mother was from there). This Mgrt died 1828 and is recorded under Mort Cloths in Keith kirk OPR's. I knew they had a daughter Ann b Rathven 1817, and when I pulled the death reg for her it said the informant was Geor Craigen, son. He was illegitimate, and I have found the Craigen family. But there is no record of sister Mgrt anyplace. And I stumbled on her by accident when I pulled Adam's death and found the informant was Alexr. Gordon, son-in-law. I know this is a long roundabout way of doing this, but I wonder what was the drawing card for Adam to leave his family who by then were living in Keith area, to Rathven......and then why did Mgrt go to Bellie, what drew her there? I searched high and low for the Alexander Gordon, son, and never found him. Which leads me to the next thing....why is it that IF he was the son of Mgrt Innes, he isn't mentioned on the marker in Keith Cemy? Ann is on it, Geor Craigen is on it, as is Alexander Gordon. I dunno, it's a puzzlement. Then I wondered if the OPR's for Bellie said anything more. It's one film I should see, but haven't. With thanks, Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Jamiesons,etc, in Bellie parish > In a message dated 15/01/2008 18:00:05 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] > writes: > > I have a Mgrt Innes b Rathven but not on the OPR's, who married 7 Jul > 1849 > to Alexander Gordon in Bellie. > The entry in the OPR shows the Banns were proclaimed on 15/6/1849 and they > confirm the marriage did take place on 7/7/1849. A look at the 1851 Census > on > Ancestry.co.uk shows them at Auchinhalrig and William is aged 41 while > Margaret is aged 29. They have a son Alexander born in 1845 shown as > having been > born in Bellie but I have searched the OPR for his baptism without > success. For > this I tried using the surname Gordon and also Innes in case he was > Margaret's child. It also occurred to me that if Alexander had been > married previously > his wife may have died in or shortly after childbirth so I had a look at > the > list of burials on the OPR and found a Mary Garden Gordon who was buried > on > 24/4/1844 and also a Janet Hay who was buried on 14/3/1845. Mary died at > Nether Dallachie and Janet at Auchinhalrig > > I believe Alexr to have been married before > and his wife had died. On the '51 census they show up at Auchinhalrig, > Bellie with an Alexr Gordon age 6, Scholar. The birth info for Alexr Sr > on > all records including his death, is Golspie, Sutherland. > The Census I looked at confirmed Alexander Sr was born in Golspie. > > But here's a connection that's odd. On the '41 I think > Mgrt shows up at Fochabers, Bellie working for Wm Innes, shoemaker and > his > wife Jane Hay, and their children. Would the Bellie info show any > information on the Gordon family or mention the death of his first wife? > Only as I have mentioned above. The OPR entries are basic recording only > that a child was baptised and whether or not it was 'Natural' or 'Lawful' > and > any witnesses along with the parents names. Marriages only mention the > parties > involved and where deaths are recorded they are normally only one line > notes > of a burial which may or may not include the age of the deceased and > their > residence. > > > I believe her to be Isobella Anderson who married Alexr Gordon 20 Dec > 1834, > Drainie. > I looked at the IGI for the children of Alexander Gordon and Isabella and > this revealed that all their children were born in Drainie whereas the > 1851 > Census shows Alexander Jr was born in Bellie. In addition the Drainie > Births > show that the Alexander born to Alexander and Isobella was born late 1846 > which > would not match a census age of 6 in early 1951. > > This may help a little but it would be more satisfactory if a birth entry > could be found in the OPR for the six year old in the 1851 census or if > it > could be confirmed whose child he was. I have instances where a widow with > children remarrying results in the children 'adopting' the new husband's > surname. > > Ian > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message