Hi Carol, Anne. My children have through their mother an ancestral Margaret RIACH, b 7 May 1727, Botrephiric, Banffshire. Margaret married Patrick TAYLOR of Rathven, Keith. She was the daughter of Janet (n BREMNER) & William RIACH. Would this part of the same line? I have found a number from Banffshire migrating south after 1746 and during the Industrial Revolution. shalom Chris Christopher Ridings > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:45:11 +0100 > From: Carol Sklinar <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Riach, Rubber and Cotton Planter > To: Anne Burgess <anne.burgess@btinternet.com>, moray@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4ADAE3A7.1020607@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thanks Anne, > > found him with a marriage to Isobel but also found a marriage of a > Robert Somerville R to one of 2 ladies in Sept of 1891 so can't pick > them up in the census - the age difference of Rbt S and Isabel leads > me > to believe Isobel the 2nd spouse. > > As you say a cert is the only way but as he has yet unknown > parentage I > think that will wait a little while. I've also looked on the > passenger > lists for him coming from West Africa as him work states Rubber and > Cotton planter representative, West Africa and no go there. > > I found him by chance while looking for Alexander Riach killed in > Kew - > there a a few Riach people in London in the 1911 but sadly does not > immediately tell a place of birth just a place of abode. Thankfully I > am not getting the info by pay per view which would cost a fortune > trying to find the right one - you know where they are born but 20 > or 30 > years later they could be living anywhere. > > Anyway, thanks Anne, will do a little more digging and let you know > what > I find. > > I am going to London in a few weeks to see my daughter - Christmas > shopping so may pop in on 30 Delancy Street, Campden to see what his > house was like............pity he won't be in to invite me in for a > cup > of tea !!!! > > Thanks again Anne > > Carol > > Anne Burgess wrote: >>> Does anyone know of one Summerville Riach born in 1870 and >>> born in Elgin. >>> The 1911 has him with his wife of 7 years, Lilian of Purston, >>> Yorkshire >>> and 2 boys both born in London and the eldes being home for >>> the school >>> holidays. >>> >> >> No sign of him in the IGI or in the 1881 census in northern >> Scotland. >> >> There is a marriage of a Robert Riach to Lilian Isobel A Parker >> in Brentford in the 3rd quarter of 1903. (GRO reference >> Brentford Sep 1903 Vol 3a Page 123), and a Lilian Isabel A >> Parker was born in Pontefract district, which includes Purston >> Jaglin, in the first quarter of 1884. (GRO reference Pontefract >> Mar 1884 Vol 9c Page 122) >> >> If you are really keen to know, you could get this marriage >> certificate and the birth certificate of one of the boys to >> confirm whether or not this is the same person. You would then >> know the name and occupation of Summerville's father, which >> might be helpful. >> >> HTH >> >> Anne > *************************************

Hi Chris, I have the family of William and Janet (Bremner) in my tree - but as yet don't know where or if there is a link to Robert Somerville Riach - I think there will be somewhere down the line but at the moment that is eluding me. So I have designated him a place in my to do file for when I sort out enough to buy pay per view from Scotlands People. I just by chance found him in the 1911 when looking for another Riach in London But in answer to your question the William, Janet and Margaret are mine Carol Christopher Ridings wrote: > Hi Carol, Anne. > > My children have through their mother an ancestral Margaret RIACH, b 7 > May 1727, Botrephiric, Banffshire. > Margaret married Patrick TAYLOR of Rathven, Keith. > She was the daughter of Janet (n BREMNER) & William RIACH. > Would this part of the same line? > I have found a number from Banffshire migrating south after 1746 and > during the Industrial Revolution. > > shalom > Chris > > Christopher Ridings > > >> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:45:11 +0100 >> From: Carol Sklinar <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> >> Subject: Re: [MORAY] Riach, Rubber and Cotton Planter >> To: Anne Burgess <anne.burgess@btinternet.com>, moray@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <4ADAE3A7.1020607@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Thanks Anne, >> >> found him with a marriage to Isobel but also found a marriage of a >> Robert Somerville R to one of 2 ladies in Sept of 1891 so can't pick >> them up in the census - the age difference of Rbt S and Isabel leads >> me >> to believe Isobel the 2nd spouse. >> >> As you say a cert is the only way but as he has yet unknown >> parentage I >> think that will wait a little while. I've also looked on the >> passenger >> lists for him coming from West Africa as him work states Rubber and >> Cotton planter representative, West Africa and no go there. >> >> I found him by chance while looking for Alexander Riach killed in >> Kew - >> there a a few Riach people in London in the 1911 but sadly does not >> immediately tell a place of birth just a place of abode. Thankfully I >> am not getting the info by pay per view which would cost a fortune >> trying to find the right one - you know where they are born but 20 >> or 30 >> years later they could be living anywhere. >> >> Anyway, thanks Anne, will do a little more digging and let you know >> what >> I find. >> >> I am going to London in a few weeks to see my daughter - Christmas >> shopping so may pop in on 30 Delancy Street, Campden to see what his >> house was like............pity he won't be in to invite me in for a >> cup >> of tea !!!! >> >> Thanks again Anne >> >> Carol >> >> Anne Burgess wrote: >> >>>> Does anyone know of one Summerville Riach born in 1870 and >>>> born in Elgin. >>>> The 1911 has him with his wife of 7 years, Lilian of Purston, >>>> Yorkshire >>>> and 2 boys both born in London and the eldes being home for >>>> the school >>>> holidays. >>>> >>>> >>> No sign of him in the IGI or in the 1881 census in northern >>> Scotland. >>> >>> There is a marriage of a Robert Riach to Lilian Isobel A Parker >>> in Brentford in the 3rd quarter of 1903. (GRO reference >>> Brentford Sep 1903 Vol 3a Page 123), and a Lilian Isabel A >>> Parker was born in Pontefract district, which includes Purston >>> Jaglin, in the first quarter of 1884. (GRO reference Pontefract >>> Mar 1884 Vol 9c Page 122) >>> >>> If you are really keen to know, you could get this marriage >>> certificate and the birth certificate of one of the boys to >>> confirm whether or not this is the same person. You would then >>> know the name and occupation of Summerville's father, which >>> might be helpful. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Anne >>> >

Christopher Ridings wrote: >Hi Carol, Anne. > >My children have through their mother an ancestral Margaret RIACH, b 7 >May 1727, Botrephiric, Banffshire. > > I think that is almost certainly a misreading for the parish whose name is generally rendered as "Botriphnie". Gavin Bell