> pinpointing the croft of DOULSBURN, parish of > Speymouth?  I live near there and I have driven, walked and cycled around Speymouth, but I do not recognise the name Doulsburn. However in the 1841 census it is listed with Blackburn and Bads. The latter will be the area including Easter and Wester Bauds, which is south of the main A96 road west of Mosstodloch. Blackburn is a little further south, beside the railway line. See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3059, which I reckon must be pretty close to Doulsburn I can find Blackburn and Easter and Wester Bauds on the 1870s six-inch Ordnance Survey maps, but not Doulsburn. So I think that Doulsburn must have disappeared, perhaps under some of the forest plantations. There is a slim chance that it could be a mistranscription in FreeCen, because the rest of the same enumeration district has some truly weird-looking transcriptions of place names. Hope this helps. Anne

Anne Burgess wrote: >>pinpointing the croft of DOULSBURN, parish of >>Speymouth? >> >> > >... > >So I think that Doulsburn must have disappeared, perhaps under some of the forest plantations. There is a slim chance that it could be a mistranscription in FreeCen, because the rest of the same enumeration district has some truly weird-looking transcriptions of place names. > > I think we can absolve FreeCEN in this instance, as the name appears (as "Douls Burn") in the 1851 Census, too - but in a transcription that predates FreeCEN and which was carried out by people with good local knowledge. I would be tempted to look at the Census for a number of succeeding Censuses, and look for one of two possible scenarios: (1) an entire group of names or families found in 1841 and/or 1851 which vanish entirely between one Census and the next - that would suggest that the place was abandoned (eg by becoming forest). (2) some, at least, of the families/names found in 1841/1851 reappearing in the equivalent Enumeration District in later Censuses, but with a different "address" - that would suggest that the place changed its name (not unknown) This is probably most easily done using the Census *films*. Gavin Bell

Thanks for the picture, Ann, of my old home - now Animal Country Hotel - was Smithfield up to 1967ish when the farm land went on to Millhill's (formerly Trochelhill) and the house and steading were sold separately. Goldie - years ago I went to Charlotte Square in Edinburgh to look up the estate rent books (Duke of Gordon's first and later Crown Estate) and remember seeing Doulsburn in the ledger - unfortunately I don't think I noted anything down about it but also wondered where it was. Linda Boyd ---- Anne Burgess <anne.listmail@btinternet.com> wrote: > > pinpointing the croft of DOULSBURN, parish of > > Speymouth?  > > I live near there and I have driven, walked and cycled around Speymouth, but I do not recognise the name Doulsburn. > > However in the 1841 census it is listed with Blackburn and Bads. The latter will be the area including Easter and Wester Bauds, which is south of the main A96 road west of Mosstodloch. Blackburn is a little further south, beside the railway line. > > See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3059, which I reckon must be pretty close to Doulsburn > > I can find Blackburn and Easter and Wester Bauds on the 1870s six-inch Ordnance Survey maps, but not Doulsburn. > > So I think that Doulsburn must have disappeared, perhaps under some of the forest plantations. There is a slim chance that it could be a mistranscription in FreeCen, because the rest of the same enumeration district has some truly weird-looking transcriptions of place names. > > Hope this helps. > > Anne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this, Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: <suedog@tesco.net> To: <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Croft of DOULSBURN > Thanks for the picture, Ann, of my old home - now Animal Country Hotel - > was Smithfield up to 1967ish when the farm land went on to Millhill's > (formerly Trochelhill) and the house and steading were sold separately. > Goldie - years ago I went to Charlotte Square in Edinburgh to look up the > estate rent books (Duke of Gordon's first and later Crown Estate) and > remember seeing Doulsburn in the ledger - unfortunately I don't think I > noted anything down about it but also wondered where it was. > Linda Boyd > > > > ---- Anne Burgess <anne.listmail@btinternet.com> wrote: >> > pinpointing the croft of DOULSBURN, parish of >> > Speymouth? >> >> I live near there and I have driven, walked and cycled around Speymouth, >> but I do not recognise the name Doulsburn. >> >> However in the 1841 census it is listed with Blackburn and Bads. The >> latter will be the area including Easter and Wester Bauds, which is south >> of the main A96 road west of Mosstodloch. Blackburn is a little further >> south, beside the railway line. >> >> See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ3059, which I reckon must be >> pretty close to Doulsburn >> >> I can find Blackburn and Easter and Wester Bauds on the 1870s six-inch >> Ordnance Survey maps, but not Doulsburn. >> >> So I think that Doulsburn must have disappeared, perhaps under some of >> the forest plantations. There is a slim chance that it could be a >> mistranscription in FreeCen, because the rest of the same enumeration >> district has some truly weird-looking transcriptions of place names. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Anne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message