This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mervally99 Surnames: WILLIAMSON, HAY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2379/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello All, I am looking for some guidance from all you learned people about what I consider to be a probable error when giving the parents names on a death certificate. The situation gets a little complicated so please bear with me. I have an Alexander WILLIAMSON on my side of the family, born c.1834 in Speymouth. He was married to Isabella Mitchell. When he died in 1891 in Dr. Grays in Elgin, his widow gave his parents names as Alexander WILLIAMSON, Tailor, and Helen HAY, both deceased. On my wifes side of the family she has William WILLIAMSON married to one Helen HAY. Both of them were born in Urquhart, William about 1786 and Helen about 1792. They had 10 children that I know of, the last being Alexander born 12th March 1833 in Urquhart. Now I can find no evidence of any Alexander WILLIAMSON marrying Helen HAY but do have William WILLIAMSON marrying Helen HAY on the 23rd of January 1812 in Urquhart. As far as deaths go there are 2 Helen WILLIAMSON's, maiden name HAY, dying between 1855 and 1891, one my wife's married to William, the other aged only 37, so too young to be a candidate. I do feel that a mistake was made on Alexanders death certificate and that his father should be William not Alexander. The birth dates for the two Alexanders are close to a match, the fact that one birth place is Speymouth and the other Urquhart is not a problem for me as I have seen numerous census where the two seem interchangeable. My inclination is to make the connection between the two, making them the same person with a note showing the apparently fictional Alexander on the death certificate. What are the views of the list? Unfortunately there are too many Alexander and William WILLIAMSON's to check all the census for possible candidates, my wallet could not take the pressure, so do any of you have any suggestions? Many thanks, Mark Whitton. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

1. It could be a mistake on the Death Register of course. 2.She could have married a brother or cousin if her first husband died. 3.There is a the following on http://libindx.moray.gov.uk ( which is free to searchg and possible as she is from Urquhart). It doesn't state her husband but the poor register will probably give more details. Ask the kind people at LIBINDX for a look up and they will also send you a copy for a small amount.Info on the website. Biography Details Reference No.:  NM218040 Surname:  WILLIAMSON Forename(s):  HELEN Maiden Name:  HAY Occupation:  FIELD LABOURER Date of Birth:  c. 1799 Place of Birth:   Father's Name:   Mother's Name:   Biography:   Marriage Details Spouse's Name:   Date of Marriage:   Place of Marriage:   Married by:   Marriage Narrative:   Death Details Date of Death:  post 1880 Age:   Headstone Ref:   Place of Death:   Parish Register:   Death Narrative:   Newspaper Articles Newspaper Description  Date  Page/Column Miscellaneous Articles Date Description Miscellaneous 1873-1881 entry in register of poor for parish of Urquhart - MF D Ur1 [GRC archives - ZPUr A5/1 p87] 4.Alexander WILLIAMSON marriage to Helen HAY may not be recorded. Regards Karen The Good You Do Comes Back To You. --- On Mon, 15/2/10, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MORAY] Quandry about Alexander WILLIAMSON of Blackdam, Urquhart To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 15 February, 2010, 13:42 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mervally99 Surnames: WILLIAMSON, HAY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2379/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello All, I am looking for some guidance from all you learned people about what I consider to be a probable error when giving the parents names on a death certificate. The situation gets a little complicated so please bear with me. I have an Alexander WILLIAMSON on my side of the family, born c.1834 in Speymouth. He was married to Isabella Mitchell. When he died in 1891 in Dr. Grays in Elgin, his widow gave his parents names as Alexander WILLIAMSON, Tailor, and Helen HAY, both deceased. On my wifes side of the family she has William WILLIAMSON married to one Helen HAY. Both of them were born in Urquhart, William about 1786 and Helen about 1792. They had 10 children that I know of, the last being Alexander born 12th March 1833 in Urquhart. Now I can find no evidence of any Alexander WILLIAMSON marrying Helen HAY but do have William WILLIAMSON marrying Helen HAY on the 23rd of January 1812 in Urquhart. As far as deaths go there are 2 Helen WILLIAMSON's, maiden name HAY, dying between 1855 and 1891, one my wife's married to William, the other aged only 37, so too young to be a candidate. I do feel that a mistake was made on Alexanders death certificate and that his father should be William not Alexander. The birth dates for the two Alexanders are close to a match, the fact that one birth place is Speymouth and the other Urquhart is not a problem for me as I have seen numerous census where the two seem interchangeable. My inclination is to make the connection between the two, making them the same person with a note showing the apparently fictional Alexander on the death certificate. What are the views of the list? Unfortunately there are too many Alexander and William WILLIAMSON's to check all the census for possible candidates, my wallet could not take the pressure, so do any of you have any suggestions? Many thanks, Mark Whitton. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mark, I think I may have solved your mystery. I have the same Williamson line in my family and the tree is: John Williamson m Christian Hossack One of their children - William Williamson m Helen Hay One of their children is Alexander Williamson m Isabela Mitchell (I don't have any record of their descendants). I am the a descendant of another child of John Williamson's and Christian Hossack - namely Alexander Williamson m Elspet Sandison. One of their children Jane Williamson married a James Taylor. Love to chat more and explore and share with you. The Willaimsons and Taylors appear to have shared the Blackdam Farm. I am a Taylor. Regards, Douglas Taylor Australia > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:42:30 +0000 > Subject: [MORAY] Quandry about Alexander WILLIAMSON of Blackdam, Urquhart > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: mervally99 > Surnames: WILLIAMSON, HAY > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/2379/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hello All, > > I am looking for some guidance from all you learned people about what I consider to be a probable error when giving the parents names on a death certificate. > > The situation gets a little complicated so please bear with me. > > I have an Alexander WILLIAMSON on my side of the family, born c.1834 in Speymouth. He was married to Isabella Mitchell. When he died in 1891 in Dr. Grays in Elgin, his widow gave his parents names as Alexander WILLIAMSON, Tailor, and Helen HAY, both deceased. > On my wifes side of the family she has William WILLIAMSON married to one Helen HAY. Both of them were born in Urquhart, William about 1786 and Helen about 1792. They had 10 children that I know of, the last being Alexander born 12th March 1833 in Urquhart. > > Now I can find no evidence of any Alexander WILLIAMSON marrying Helen HAY but do have William WILLIAMSON marrying Helen HAY on the 23rd of January 1812 in Urquhart. > As far as deaths go there are 2 Helen WILLIAMSON's, maiden name HAY, dying between 1855 and 1891, one my wife's married to William, the other aged only 37, so too young to be a candidate. > > I do feel that a mistake was made on Alexanders death certificate and that his father should be William not Alexander. The birth dates for the two Alexanders are close to a match, the fact that one birth place is Speymouth and the other Urquhart is not a problem for me as I have seen numerous census where the two seem interchangeable. > > My inclination is to make the connection between the two, making them the same person with a note showing the apparently fictional Alexander on the death certificate. > > What are the views of the list? Unfortunately there are too many Alexander and William WILLIAMSON's to check all the census for possible candidates, my wallet could not take the pressure, so do any of you have any suggestions? > > Many thanks, > > Mark Whitton. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy? Find your next place with ninemsn Property http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/