NEPTUNE? Take your pick... I have a note of a 1780 newspaper reference to a NEPTUNE of Portsoy with a master named Elder. In a 1790 newspaper is a reference to a NEPTUNE of Banff with master named Stewart. At that time the vessels of the Banff coast would have been registered at Aberdeen and checking my Aberdeen records I see that there was a 70 ton NEPTUNE registered number 129th in the 1786/87 list and also an 82 ton NEPTUNE registered number 139th. {the Moray ports further west (Findhorn, Spey, Kingston Port, Burghead) would have been registered at Inverness) In 1788 a 111 ton NEPTUNE was built in Aberdeen In 1790 a neswpaper makes reference to an Aberdeen NEPTUNE with master named Stewart [probably the same vessel noted as Banff earlier] In December 1795 a 73 ton NEPTUNE was registered at Aberdeen having changed her registry from Inverness but referenced as being 'of Kingston Port'. In 1796 a 282 ton NEPTUNE was built in Aberdeen, to be followed 1797 by a 145 ton NEPTUNE also built at Aberdeen. On 31 December 1799 a NEPTUNE from Aberdeen stranded at Bay of Nigg, near Aberdeen whilst under the command of Captain Gibbon. This may be the same vessel referenced as being wrecked at Belhelvie on the 21st. In 1801 a 130 ton brig NEPTUNE was built at Aberdeen and it was in 1801 that Banff became a registry port in it's own right. By 1820 there is a reference to a 71 ton sloop NEPTUNE registered at Banff, having been built at Garmouth in 1815. In 1820 her masters name was Milne. I am not sure how long the earlier registration in Aberdeen would have remained at Aberdeen. I suspect that it would only have been when a vessel changed hands that it would have been necessary to re-register at Banff. e.g. An 1803 reference to a NEPTUNE with master Jameson might have been from Aberdeen but may also have belonged to one of the Moray ports. Likewise the sloop NEPTUNE that stranded in 1808 but got off. By 1813 Aberdeen had a whaler named NEPTUNE being a 282 ton vessel built in 1796 at Aberdeen. The records show her to have had continuous presence on the register from at least 1803 to 1824. This doesn't quite square with a NEPTUNE that was on the Montrose register from 1813 before coming to Aberdeen in 1819 and then moving to Dublin in 1822. Both would have been on the register in 1820 but in a snap-shot recording of vessels in that year there is only reference to there being one vessel of that name, the 282 ton vessel. So, a common name and just to add to the mix...in December 1808 a Swedish brig NEPTUNE was wrecked on Benbecula under the command of Captain Knupple. Ian P.S. Howard, if I sent the info about your 1835 NEPTUNE the 'OS' reference could well have been my 'Outside Scotland' code, i.e. outside the scope of my research at the time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Geddes <hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [MORAY] Re: Moray Pirates? > Hi Kaj, > All I can add about 'local-to-Moray' ships named Neptune is this: "Neptune > (sloop) built 1825 63 tons masters: J. Scott and Chalmers. Lost pre 26 > November 1835 OS." (I don't know what OS means.) > > I wouldn't know whether the name Neptune would be carried from ship to > ship - being the name it is, I should think it turns up all over the place > so little inference could be gleaned from its appearance. > > I looked to see if I had anything relevant re the Innes name - nothing I'm > afraid. > > Again, George Smith is not an uncommon name, so all I can do is note its > occurrence. Maybe one day we'll discover that the enslaved George Smith > managed to pay his way free, and is the East India Co man who provided of > Fordyce Academy's "George Smith Bounty". > > Regards Howard > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you ;-) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >