See http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/os_scotland_2nd_ed_list.html for the "1898-1904 - ORDNANCE SURVEY - One-inch 2nd edition maps of Scotland, with coloured parishes <http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/os_scotland_2nd_ed_list.html>". Murray Helen Ulmann wrote: > Thank you very much, both Ed and Anne, for your clarification, and I > may be back to you with further questions. > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" > <anne.burgess@btinternet.com> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] 1851 Census "Elgin, Cromdale" > > >>> Can anyone please help with WILLIAM GRANT's Where Born listing > in >>> the 1851 Census? It is "Elgin, Cromdale"? Has anyone any idea > >>> which exact area this would encompass? >>> Would "Cromdale" be >>> north of the Old Spey Bridge, both sides of the Spey, to the >>> boundary of Advie, which would be where?? >> >> >> Hmmm. >> >> Lachlan Shaw (1775) says, "Cromdale, Inveralen, and Advie, are now >> united in one parish - how early they were so united, I find not." >> >> Fullarton's Gazetteer (1842) says, "Cromdale, a parish composed of >> the three ancient but now united parishes of Cromdale, Inverallan, >> and Advie .... situated in thecounties of Inverness and Elgin ... >> houses in Inverness-shire, in 1831, 484; in Elgin 117." >> >> In some censuses birthplaces are noted as being Inverallan or Advie >> as opposed to Cromdale; but in others Cromdale is used for the >> composite parish. >> >> For example I have a note of a family living at Ballinlagg (which is >> firmly in Inverallan); but in the 1851 census their birthplaces are >> all listed as Cromdale. >> >> So, while my answer to your question is that Cromdale is, generally >> speaking, on the right bank of the River Spey, downriver (north) of >> the Spey Bridge, and upriver (south) of Advie, I don't think that you >> can safely assume that a person whose birthplace is given as Cromdale >> in the 1851 census was actually born in the Cromdale area of the >> combined parish. >> >>> I presume Inverallan is south of Old Spey Bridge. >> >> Inverallan is actually on the left bank of the river, and mostly >> north of the bridge, not south of it. Grantown-on-Spey and Castle >> Grant are both in the Inverallan part of the combined parish. >> >>> I cannot find William Grant's birth, between 1798 and 1801. He was > >>> not home for the 1841 census but in 1851 William GRANT aged 50 > was >>> living at the Lots of Spey Bridge near Grantown with his wife >>> Elspeth aged 42 whose entry in Where Born was "Elgin, >>> Abernethy". She was born on the east side of the Spey at Sliamore > >>> near Nethy Bridge. Their children, ages 16-2, all born at or near >>> Spey Bridge. are "Inverness, Cromdale". >> >> The parish boundaries in this part of the world were not coincident >> with the county boundaries, and the greater part of the combined >> parish seems to have been in Inverness-shire at that time (see the >> extract from Fullarton, above). >> >> HTH >> >> Anne >> >> >> >>> Any help gratefully received >>> Helen >>> Australia >>> >>> >>> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >>> If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, >>> or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information >>> can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget that if you delete a message, you can always visit the >> archives of this list http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MORAY/. >> The archives are also worth looking at, whether you be a new or >> established lister. >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns > about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com > or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > >

Hi Murray I have had a look at the website you suggested. Unfortunately it seems that the maps for Moray & Banffshire are not available at the site. I have emailed the website administrator and asked if they intend adding sheets 85, 86, 94, 95, 96. I suggest that anyone interested in the locations shown on the maps should also write in and ask for these maps to be added. Ray Hennessy Banffshire Place-names Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Lynn" <m.lynn@paradise.net.nz> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] 1851 Census "Elgin, Cromdale" > See > http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/os_scotland_2nd_ed_list.html > for the "1898-1904 - ORDNANCE SURVEY - One-inch 2nd edition maps of > Scotland, with coloured parishes > Murray