Brian, This period happens to be one my cousin Sarah Brodie of Lethen and I have spent a great deal of time on for the past 2 years, particularly since I located over 200 years worth of Lethen estate records at the NAS which Sarah has now withdrawn and is studying at home. To answer your first question, the Esquires were both minor landowners. Lewis Rose was related to most of the other leading Rose families including ultimately Rose of Kilravock the Clan Chief. I am not familiar with Lewis Grant. The Peterkins were quite a prominent second level family in Nairnshire in the 17th and 18th centuries. They were married into many of the tenant farmer families and most of the tenant farmers were themselves younger sons or the descendants of younger sons of the main Lairds who in turn were all inter-related. In Ardclach we have dozens of examples of children being named for the Laird or members of his family and usually the person after whom the child was named was one of its godparents/baptism witnesses. In my own family in the McIlvain branch, every child was not only named after a member of either the Brodie of Lethen family and its various in-laws or their neighbours and in each case the principal god parent was the man or woman after whom the child was named. Regards Mark John M Sutherland-Fisher Managing Director, Fisher (Holiday Enterprises) Ltd North Cadboll House, North Cadboll, Fearn by Tain, Ross-shire, Scotland. IV20 1TN Tel and Fax: 0044 (0) 1862 871877 Mobile: 0044 (0) 7765 272815 Email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 27 December 2007 18:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [MORAY] baptism records Yule/Peterkin I was wondering if anyone could help me with understanding baptism records. My GGGGgrandfather James Yule and my GGGGgrandmother Anne Peterkin had twin boys baptised in Nairn in 1769: my GGGgrandfather John Yule and GGGGuncle Lewis Yule The baptism record reads : "Nairn August 29th 1796. James Yule in town and Anne Peterkin his wife had twins baptised, the oldest named John witnessed John McIntosh Millerwright, John Rose Wright, John Rhind Wheelerwright, John Petrekin in Moy, Anne McIntosh and James Sheppherd all in town. The youngest called Lewis after Lewis Rose of Culmeny and Lewis Grant of Grange-green Esquires. Witnessed Elizabeth Petrickin in Culmeny and Elspet Rose in Nairn" Is there any significance in Lewis being named after the two esquires? At first I thought Elizabeth Petrickin in Culmeny may have been married to Lewis Rose and that there was a connection through marriage to Anne Peterkin but it is clear that Lewis Rose never married. I would like to know if the naming of Lewis after Lewis Rose and Lewis Grant indicates any kind of relationship between the people and would appreciate comments from anyone with experience of reading these records. Many thanks, Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 27/12/2007 13:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 27/12/2007 13:34

Mark, Thanks for that really interesting information. It turns out that Lewis Rose was the younger brother of Hugh Rose of Kilravock and actually became Clan Chief temporarily to allow some change to land tenure to occur (How and why I'm not sure - I'm not at all clear on the 18thC legalese) before Hugh took up the title again. The Yules lived in 1841 at Yule's Close (presumably their own property) in Nairn (now gone) but it was off the High St. close to the Rose town house. Where did you find the information on the Peterkins? I would be very interested in following this up further. Best wishes, Brian ---- "Fisher (Holiday Enterprise) Ltd" <[email protected]> wrote: > Brian, > This period happens to be one my cousin Sarah Brodie of Lethen and I have > spent a great deal of time on for the past 2 years, particularly since I > located over 200 years worth of Lethen estate records at the NAS which > Sarah has now withdrawn and is studying at home. > > To answer your first question, the Esquires were both minor landowners. > Lewis Rose was related to most of the other leading Rose families including > ultimately Rose of Kilravock the Clan Chief. I am not familiar with Lewis > Grant. The Peterkins were quite a prominent second level family in > Nairnshire in the 17th and 18th centuries. They were married into many of > the tenant farmer families and most of the tenant farmers were themselves > younger sons or the descendants of younger sons of the main Lairds who in > turn were all inter-related. In Ardclach we have dozens of examples of > children being named for the Laird or members of his family and usually the > person after whom the child was named was one of its godparents/baptism > witnesses. > > In my own family in the McIlvain branch, every child was not only named > after a member of either the Brodie of Lethen family and its various in-laws > or their neighbours and in each case the principal god parent was the man or > woman after whom the child was named. > Regards > Mark > > John M Sutherland-Fisher > Managing Director, Fisher (Holiday Enterprises) Ltd > North Cadboll House, North Cadboll, Fearn by Tain, > Ross-shire, Scotland. IV20 1TN > Tel and Fax: 0044 (0) 1862 871877 > Mobile: 0044 (0) 7765 272815 > Email: [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: 27 December 2007 18:30 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MORAY] baptism records Yule/Peterkin > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with understanding baptism records. > My GGGGgrandfather James Yule and my GGGGgrandmother Anne Peterkin had twin > boys baptised in Nairn in 1769: my GGGgrandfather John Yule and GGGGuncle > Lewis Yule The baptism record reads : "Nairn August 29th 1796. James Yule in > town and Anne Peterkin his wife had twins baptised, the oldest named John > witnessed John McIntosh Millerwright, John Rose Wright, John Rhind > Wheelerwright, John Petrekin in Moy, Anne McIntosh and James Sheppherd all > in town. The youngest called Lewis after Lewis Rose of Culmeny and Lewis > Grant of Grange-green Esquires. Witnessed Elizabeth Petrickin in Culmeny and > Elspet Rose in Nairn" > Is there any significance in Lewis being named after the two esquires? At > first I thought Elizabeth Petrickin in Culmeny may have been married to > Lewis Rose and that there was a connection through marriage to Anne Peterkin > but it is clear that Lewis Rose never married. I would like to know if the > naming of Lewis after Lewis Rose and Lewis Grant indicates any kind of > relationship between the people and would appreciate comments from anyone > with experience of reading these records. > > Many thanks, > > Brian > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 27/12/2007 > 13:34 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 27/12/2007 > 13:34 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message