Hi Ian, My gt-gt-gt-gdmother is Margaret REID. My Reids stayed in Deskford for many a long year: the earliest I have is James REID and Janet CLARK who married 12-Jan-1783 Deskford; he may have been son of James REID and Elizabeth GRANT who married 8-Oct-1757 Deskford. There were other Deskford Reids, your Reids among them, but I haven't been able to link them with mine. Maybe you can? I. The following info I have on file probably refers to a son of Alexander Reid and Helen Palmer: 1851 census (enum 1 page 16) Berryhillock, Deskford: Alexander Reid 41 b. Deskford Head Mar Master Tailor Charlotte Reid 43 b. Elgin Wife Mar Master Tailor's wife Charlotte Reid 9 b. Deskford dau Scholar Helen Reid 7 b. Deskford dau Scholar John Reid 5 b. Deskford son Tailor's son I don't have a sighting of them in 1841 - this may merely be because I haven't transcribed their entry. I don't have their entries for 1861/1871, but the couple is still there in 1881: 1881 census (151-3-1) Berryhillock, Deskford Alexander Reid 71 b. Deskford Head Mar Furnishing Tailor emp 1 man Charlotte Reid 71 b. Elgin Wife Mar The wife's maiden name is Cassie. Daughter Helen turns up in Aberdeen in 1881: Volume 168-2 EnumDist 2 Page 11 William D. GEDDES M 52 M Glan, Aberdeen Head Professor Of Greek In Universty Margaret GIBB U 39 F Glasgow, Lanark Servant Housemaid Dom Serv Hellen REID U 37 F Deskford, Banff Servant Housemaid Dom Serv This is from his death registration: "Alexander Reid tailor and clothier (married to Charlotte Cassie) died 31-3-1890 1.30pm age 80 Berryhillock parish of Deskford, of influenza pneumonia 4d. Parents: William Reid (deceased) and Helen Reid ms Palmer (deceased). Inf: John Reid son (present)." - D-1890-Deskford-4. I've found widow Charlotte and son John in Inverurie in 1891: John Reid 45 [actual: 46] b. Deskford head mar general draper ........ Charlotte Currie Reid 82 [actual: 83] b. Elgin mother wid. [Her middle name may have been intended to be Cassie, but got recorded as Currie?] I think the son has got his father's father's name wrong: it ought to be Alexander, not William. This is because there is only the one marriage relating to a Helen Palmer: Helen Palmer & Alexander Reid m. 30-6-1798 Cullen (IGI-M111502) and Helen Palmer & Alexander Reed m. 24-6-1798 Deskford (IGI-M111512) [a personal submission has Helen Palmer & Alexander Reid m. 30-6-1799 Cullen (IGI-7617734) - note that the date is wrong]. Alexander Reid & Helen Palmer had a son James Reid 17-3-1799 Deskford (IGI-7617733): around this time, the IGI has very few entries for Deskford, and for certain the indexing of the Deskford OPR is not right in FamilySearch, so it didn't show any children at all in the normal way one checks for whole families, but I now see that Alexander Reid & Helen Palmer had much more of a family. I've been able to winkle out eight of a family including your Ann bpt 3-11-1802, with the 1799 James and the 1809 Alexander slotting in perfectly, making at least ten of a family. The net result for me is still that they are not obviously related to my Reids, because mine seem to have been in Deskford long before this family came in from Cullen (if that's where they did come from....). However, I am trying to seek these connections. II. I have this info on file, re James Davidson and Margaret Copeland: George DAVIDSON died Beryhillock 5 July 1869 (age 66) married to Ann REID, s/o James DAVIDSON farmer dec. & Margaret COPELAND. In 1851, George was age 48 b.Rathven and Ann was age 48 b.Deskford, and there was family (including your Isabella Davidson, age 10). So now I know the parentage of this Ann Reid. Thanks! III. I have this info on file too, about a John Reid whom I haven't been able to identify yet: Janet BAGRIE d Berryhillock 10 Aug 1869 (87) wid. of Alexander BAGRIE blacksmith, d/o Walter WATT labourer dec. & Ann HEPBURN dec. Informant was John REID grandson, Berryhillock. Regards Howard Geddes
I have DAVIDSON of Cruden, Aberdeenshire 1811. Any help? Chris Ridings -----Original Message----- From: Howard Geddes [mailto:hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 13 December 2004 10:47 To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: McLean/Davidson/Reid/Ingram Hi Ian, My gt-gt-gt-gdmother is Margaret REID. My Reids stayed in Deskford for many a long year: the earliest I have is James REID and Janet CLARK who married 12-Jan-1783 Deskford; he may have been son of James REID and Elizabeth GRANT who married 8-Oct-1757 Deskford. There were other Deskford Reids, your Reids among them, but I haven't been able to link them with mine. Maybe you can? I. The following info I have on file probably refers to a son of Alexander Reid and Helen Palmer: 1851 census (enum 1 page 16) Berryhillock, Deskford: Alexander Reid 41 b. Deskford Head Mar Master Tailor Charlotte Reid 43 b. Elgin Wife Mar Master Tailor's wife Charlotte Reid 9 b. Deskford dau Scholar Helen Reid 7 b. Deskford dau Scholar John Reid 5 b. Deskford son Tailor's son I don't have a sighting of them in 1841 - this may merely be because I haven't transcribed their entry. I don't have their entries for 1861/1871, but the couple is still there in 1881: 1881 census (151-3-1) Berryhillock, Deskford Alexander Reid 71 b. Deskford Head Mar Furnishing Tailor emp 1 man Charlotte Reid 71 b. Elgin Wife Mar The wife's maiden name is Cassie. Daughter Helen turns up in Aberdeen in 1881: Volume 168-2 EnumDist 2 Page 11 William D. GEDDES M 52 M Glan, Aberdeen Head Professor Of Greek In Universty Margaret GIBB U 39 F Glasgow, Lanark Servant Housemaid Dom Serv Hellen REID U 37 F Deskford, Banff Servant Housemaid Dom Serv This is from his death registration: "Alexander Reid tailor and clothier (married to Charlotte Cassie) died 31-3-1890 1.30pm age 80 Berryhillock parish of Deskford, of influenza pneumonia 4d. Parents: William Reid (deceased) and Helen Reid ms Palmer (deceased). Inf: John Reid son (present)." - D-1890-Deskford-4. I've found widow Charlotte and son John in Inverurie in 1891: John Reid 45 [actual: 46] b. Deskford head mar general draper ........ Charlotte Currie Reid 82 [actual: 83] b. Elgin mother wid. [Her middle name may have been intended to be Cassie, but got recorded as Currie?] I think the son has got his father's father's name wrong: it ought to be Alexander, not William. This is because there is only the one marriage relating to a Helen Palmer: Helen Palmer & Alexander Reid m. 30-6-1798 Cullen (IGI-M111502) and Helen Palmer & Alexander Reed m. 24-6-1798 Deskford (IGI-M111512) [a personal submission has Helen Palmer & Alexander Reid m. 30-6-1799 Cullen (IGI-7617734) - note that the date is wrong]. Alexander Reid & Helen Palmer had a son James Reid 17-3-1799 Deskford (IGI-7617733): around this time, the IGI has very few entries for Deskford, and for certain the indexing of the Deskford OPR is not right in FamilySearch, so it didn't show any children at all in the normal way one checks for whole families, but I now see that Alexander Reid & Helen Palmer had much more of a family. I've been able to winkle out eight of a family including your Ann bpt 3-11-1802, with the 1799 James and the 1809 Alexander slotting in perfectly, making at least ten of a family. The net result for me is still that they are not obviously related to my Reids, because mine seem to have been in Deskford long before this family came in from Cullen (if that's where they did come from....). However, I am trying to seek these connections. II. I have this info on file, re James Davidson and Margaret Copeland: George DAVIDSON died Beryhillock 5 July 1869 (age 66) married to Ann REID, s/o James DAVIDSON farmer dec. & Margaret COPELAND. In 1851, George was age 48 b.Rathven and Ann was age 48 b.Deskford, and there was family (including your Isabella Davidson, age 10). So now I know the parentage of this Ann Reid. Thanks! III. I have this info on file too, about a John Reid whom I haven't been able to identify yet: Janet BAGRIE d Berryhillock 10 Aug 1869 (87) wid. of Alexander BAGRIE blacksmith, d/o Walter WATT labourer dec. & Ann HEPBURN dec. Informant was John REID grandson, Berryhillock. Regards Howard Geddes ______________________________