Re Jessie ------------- Chris Duff wrote: > No one has suggested Jessie may be short > for Jessica. Am I being too obvious? Hi Chris Not at all, it's a fairly common pet name for Jessica. Maybe not in Scotland but then nor is Jessica! The 1841 Census for Aberdeenshire doesn't have a single Jessica in it, as far as I know. -------------------------------------------------- peigi mulligan wrote: > In America JESSIE is female, JESSE is male. > And it is Jesse James. My 1st cousin's wife is a relative of his. Hi Peigi Well, true, up to a point. As I said in an earlier message, there are variations even in the States involved with JJ. The City of St Joseph, Missouri says: " Jesse Woodson James was born in Kearney, Missouri on September 5, 1847. His father, the Rev. Robert James, was a Baptist minister who helped found William Jewell College in Liberty, Mo. Some people say it was the cruel treatment from Union soldiers that turned Frank and Jesse to a life of crime during the Civil War. Certainly during the war years they learned to kill while riding with William Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson. " The Spartacus School Net says: " Jessie James was born in Clay County, Missouri on 5th September, 1847. His father left home as a child in search of gold in California and never returned. Jessie and his brother Frank James were brought up by their mother, Zeralda James. The James family were owners of slaves and supported the Confederate Army during the American Civil War. In 1862 William Quantrill established a band of guerilla fighters. Jessie James joined and other members of the gang included Frank James, Cole Younger and James Younger. " Clearly these sources are talking about the same Jesse/Jessie James but with interesting differences, quite apart from the Forename of the 'notorious bandit' or 'America's Robin Hood'. [Take your pick!!] Best wishes to all Ray Hennessy

The origin of the name of Jesse comes from Ruth 4:22, 1 Sam 16:1ff, where Jesse is the grandson of Ruth and the father of the future king David. Names from the Hebrew scriptures were quite popular in the US during the 19th century, even those who were quite obscure. I have no idea of the origin of Jessie but I would say that the origin there is completely separate. Shalom Chris Ridings -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hennessy [mailto:rayhennessy@iclway.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2004 4:52 To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re:[MORAY] Jessie Re Jessie ------------- Chris Duff wrote: > No one has suggested Jessie may be short > for Jessica. Am I being too obvious? Hi Chris Not at all, it's a fairly common pet name for Jessica. Maybe not in Scotland but then nor is Jessica! The 1841 Census for Aberdeenshire doesn't have a single Jessica in it, as far as I know. - ------------------------------------------------ peigi mulligan wrote: > In America JESSIE is female, JESSE is male. > And it is Jesse James. My 1st cousin's wife is a relative of his. Hi Peigi Well, true, up to a point. As I said in an earlier message, there are variations even in the States involved with JJ. The City of St Joseph, Missouri says: " Jesse Woodson James was born in Kearney, Missouri on September 5, 1847. His father, the Rev. Robert James, was a Baptist minister who helped found William Jewell College in Liberty, Mo. Some people say it was the cruel treatment from Union soldiers that turned Frank and Jesse to a life of crime during the Civil War. Certainly during the war years they learned to kill while riding with William Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson. " The Spartacus School Net says: " Jessie James was born in Clay County, Missouri on 5th September, 1847. His father left home as a child in search of gold in California and never returned. Jessie and his brother Frank James were brought up by their mother, Zeralda James. The James family were owners of slaves and supported the Confederate Army during the American Civil War. In 1862 William Quantrill established a band of guerilla fighters. Jessie James joined and other members of the gang included Frank James, Cole Younger and James Younger. " Clearly these sources are talking about the same Jesse/Jessie James but with interesting differences, quite apart from the Forename of the 'notorious bandit' or 'America's Robin Hood'. [Take your pick!!] Best wishes to all Ray Hennessy