-----Original Message----- ...You likely won't find them on any immigration lists....they were British subjects, so wouldn't have had any problems coming into Canada. -------------------------- That's not entirely correct - don't confuse immigration with citizenship. It is correct that until the Canadian Citizenship Act came into force on Jan 1 1947, people born in Canada were British subjects, so immigrants born in Great Britain and the Empire/Commonwealth, being British subjects by birth, had no need to be naturalized or to obtain British citizenship in Canada. However, there were still passenger lists - which included visitors, returning Canadians, immigrating British subjects, immigrating non-British subjects and these were used as immigration records. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.003-e.html Also, "From June 1, 1921 to December 31, 1924, the Department of Immigration and Colonization required that individual manifests (Form 30A, RG 76 C1j) be completed and submitted to the immigration officers at the ports of arrival, instead of the large sheet passenger list manifests previously in use. A form had to be submitted for each passenger, including children, except those in transit to the United States." I have copies of the Form 30A for two of my relatives (both British subjects), who immigrated in that time period (unfortunately, the people Mandy is looking for immigrated earlier). My third relative, who immigrated in 1925, is included on a passenger list which is headed with the following " Canadian Government Return - Canadian Immigration Service" - for a ship sailing from Glasgow to Quebec. These later records include lots of information - including birthplace, occupation (at home and planned in Canada), nationality, race, nearest relative in the country from which they came, relative, friend or employer in Canada, who paid their passage, how much money they had with them, how they were travelling inland (ie CPR or CNR), and 'action taken' - stamped 'landed immigrant' - even though they were a British subject. I also have the corresponding 'Out-Going Passengers' list prepared by the Canadian Pacific Steamship line - 'Names and Descriptions of British Passengers embarked at the port of Glasgow'. Robin

Mandy The John Watson born 11 Apr 1878 did come to Canada because his WWI attestation papers can be found here (Regimental Number 451960) http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php He signed up in Niagara, so he was probably living somewhere in Ontario - maybe Toronto or Hamilton because he gives his occupation as Conductor, Street Railway. Did you try looking for them in the 1911 Canadian Census? (I'm still trying) http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/ I'm also checking the Canadian passenger lists - unfortunately there are quite a few John Watsons born around that time in Scotland immigrating in 1901-1907 - so far no luck. Robin -----Original Message----- From: moray-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moray-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mandy Wilson Sent: January-02-10 6:43 PM To: moray@rootsweb.com Subject: [MORAY] Maggie Watson / Findlay Happy New Year :-) I am looking into a  brick wall at the moment and wonder if anyone can help? My grandmother Mary Findlay had an illigitimate child called Maggie Findlay (born 12 Dec 1901 in Rafford) with the reputed father being a labourer called John Watson. Maggie and her father went to Canada before 1907.  (This information I have from a poor relief application) The child would have been my grandfather's half sister.  I have had a go at searching records in the UK to no avail for Maggie.(only her birth can be found) Similarly passenger lists are not throwing up great clues - I cant find a John and Maggie travelling together.    I even tried searching the 1901 census to see if there was a John Watson staying near Mary Findlay! I did find a John Watson born 11 April 1878 in Rafford who was in the 1901 census at a bothy in Kinloss. The very long shot is that there is someone on the list who may have a john watson who travelled to canada with a young child (and without the child's mother) Here's hoping I'd love 2010 to be the year of less brick walls!! Best wishes Mandy  Mandy Wilson mandy.wilson@yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is my advice......goggle Automated Genealogy.com and check the 1911 CAD census.......You likely won't find them on any immigration lists....they were British subjects, so wouldn't have had any problems coming into Canada. There is also a 1906 census on this same site, but only for some of the provinces....check that as well. I'll have a go from here.....good luck and Happy New Year.....toast to brick walls and the breaking down thereof....Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy Wilson" <forsyth246@yahoo.com> To: <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: [MORAY] Maggie Watson / Findlay Happy New Year :-) I am looking into a brick wall at the moment and wonder if anyone can help? My grandmother Mary Findlay had an illigitimate child called Maggie Findlay (born 12 Dec 1901 in Rafford) with the reputed father being a labourer called John Watson. Maggie and her father went to Canada before 1907. (This information I have from a poor relief application) The child would have been my grandfather's half sister. I have had a go at searching records in the UK to no avail for Maggie.(only her birth can be found) Similarly passenger lists are not throwing up great clues - I cant find a John and Maggie travelling together. I even tried searching the 1901 census to see if there was a John Watson staying near Mary Findlay! I did find a John Watson born 11 April 1878 in Rafford who was in the 1901 census at a bothy in Kinloss. The very long shot is that there is someone on the list who may have a john watson who travelled to canada with a young child (and without the child's mother) Here's hoping I'd love 2010 to be the year of less brick walls!! Best wishes Mandy Mandy Wilson mandy.wilson@yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy New Year :-) I am looking into a  brick wall at the moment and wonder if anyone can help? My grandmother Mary Findlay had an illigitimate child called Maggie Findlay (born 12 Dec 1901 in Rafford) with the reputed father being a labourer called John Watson. Maggie and her father went to Canada before 1907.  (This information I have from a poor relief application) The child would have been my grandfather's half sister.  I have had a go at searching records in the UK to no avail for Maggie.(only her birth can be found) Similarly passenger lists are not throwing up great clues - I cant find a John and Maggie travelling together.    I even tried searching the 1901 census to see if there was a John Watson staying near Mary Findlay! I did find a John Watson born 11 April 1878 in Rafford who was in the 1901 census at a bothy in Kinloss. The very long shot is that there is someone on the list who may have a john watson who travelled to canada with a young child (and without the child's mother) Here's hoping I'd love 2010 to be the year of less brick walls!! Best wishes Mandy  Mandy Wilson mandy.wilson@yahoo.com

Merry Christmas to the Moray List. You spend the entire year delivering packages of extremely useful information. I have received many of these through this list. May we break down our walls in 2010!....and continue to glean invaluable information from the good folks on this list!

If you would like the page image, just email me. My interest on this page is Mary CRUICKSHANK. 1862 Death Register, Parish of Edinkillie, County of Moray Page 5 #13 Margaret MUNRO, single Died: 17 April 1862, Airebrae?, Edinkillie Age: 26 days Parents: William MUNRO, farm servant, and Elspet Munro m.s. WATSON COD: Uncertain, 2 days, no medical attendant Informant: William MUNRO, father, present Registered: 28 April 1862 at Edinkillie, William ROBERTSON, Registrar #14 ____ NICOL, single Died: 8 May 1862, Dallasbroughty, Edinkillie Age: 12 hours Parents: William NICOL, farmer and Helen Nicol m.s. GRANT COD: Uncertain, 12 hours, no medical attendant Informant: William NICOL, father, present Registered: 12 May 1862 at Edinkillie, William ROBERTSON, Registrar #15 Mary CRUICKSHANK (widow of James Cruickshank, farmer) Died: 24 May 1862, Rygaul, Edinkillie Age: 87 years Parents: John FINLAY (deceased) and Mary Finlay m.s. McDONALD COD: Old Age, no medical attendant Informant: John CRUICKSHANK, son Registered: 30 May 1862 at Edinkillie, William ROBERTSON, Registrar -- Jo-Ann Croft

I think you will find it is Lochalsh Road not Lachalsh. Best to send to the Inverness List. Regards Karen The Good You Do Comes Back To You. --- On Sat, 19/12/09, Gramps <w.innes@videotron.ca> wrote: From: Gramps <w.innes@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: [MORAY] Local Cemeteries To: "Anne Burgess" <anne.burgess@btinternet.com>, moray@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 1:00 Thanks Anne. Happy Holidays William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" <anne.burgess@btinternet.com> To: <moray@rootsweb.com>; <ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Moray Email" <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Local Cemeteries >> What cemeteries are located in or around Inverness, Scotland. > > You would probably get better information if you posted this > question to the Inverness List > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-INVERNESS.html > > Anne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Anne. Happy Holidays William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" <anne.burgess@btinternet.com> To: <moray@rootsweb.com>; <ABERDEEN@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Moray Email" <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Local Cemeteries >> What cemeteries are located in or around Inverness, Scotland. > > You would probably get better information if you posted this > question to the Inverness List > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-INVERNESS.html > > Anne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

> What cemeteries are located in or around Inverness, Scotland. You would probably get better information if you posted this question to the Inverness List http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-INVERNESS.html Anne

What cemeteries are located in or around Inverness, Scotland. I'm actually looking for the burial place for a) John Steel d:19 Aug.1957 at 83 Lachalsh Road in Inverness b) Mary Margaret Shaw Innes ( John's wife ) d: 1 May 1970 c) William J Steel d: 28 Aug.2006 at his home located at 48 Broom Drive in Inverness 1V2 4EQ Any help would be greatly appreciated. William in Montreal

What cemeteries are located in or around Inverness, Scotland. I'm actually looking for the burial place for a) John Steel d:19 Aug.1957 at 83 Lachalsh Road in Inverness b) Mary Margaret Shaw Innes ( John's wife ) d: 1 May 1970 c) William J Steel d: 28 Aug.2006 at his home located at 48 Broom Drive in Inverness 1V2 4EQ Any help would be greatly appreciated. William in Montreal

Hello Jo-Ann, Agnes "Nancy" Hen(d)ry is NM151665 on LIBINDX. Wife of Alexander Robb, Farmer of Standing Stone, Duffus. Informant is their son Alexander, born 1804. He is NM151676 on LIBINDX Agnes's father was Thomas Hen(d)ry , Farmer and Mason in both Covesea, Drainie, and Roseisle, Duffus. He was born Buthill, Duffus, c. 2nd Feb. 1739 and married Margaret Winster or Winchester in Drainie 27th Dec. 1772. Is that enough? More information available if you want it. Regards, Alastair

If anyone wants a copy of the image, let me know. My interest on the is page is ROBB (HENRY). 1858 Death Register, Burgh of Elgin, County of Elgin Page 32 #94 WILL, Alexander, single Died: 31 May 1858, 279 High Street, Elgin Age: 7 years Parents: James WILL, seaman and Margaret Will m.s. BAIN COD: not cerified Buried: Burial ground of Essle, parish of Speymouth Informant: James Badenoch, grocer, 235 High St. Elgin, neighbor #95 FINDLAY, John, commercial agent, Married Died: 1 June 1858, 37 South Street, Elgin Age: 34 years Parents: John FINDLAY, farmer (deceased) and Grace Findlay m.s. CLARK (deceased) COD: Poisoning by Laudanum, supposed accidental Buried: Cathedral Churchyard, Elgin Informant: Robert REID, cabinetmaker, South St, Elgin, and on information by William GRIGOR, Procurator Fiscal #96 ROBB, Agnes, widow of a farmer Died: 5 June 1858, 295 High Street, Elgin Age: 84 years Parents: Thomas HENRY, farmer (deceased) and Margaret Henry m.s. WINCHESTER (deceased) COD: General Debility, no medical attendant Buried: Cathedral Churchyard, Elgin Informant: Alexander ROBB, carpenter, 6 Lady Lane, Elgin, son, present -- Jo-Ann Croft

Need help in locating a David Steel in Nairn. Would appreciate a telephone number if at all possible. All I know is that his parents were William J Steel ( deceased ) and Maria Angela Salvatori in Inverness. This is the only information that I have, William in Montreal

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dm4_1 Surnames: stronachs in elgin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general/447.462.474.481/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am also descended from james stronach and isabel russell, from the james stronach b 1790. happy to share what I have, including public tree on ancestry.com best wishes donald Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Wikipedia puts it succinctly An *international reply coupon* (IRC) is a coupon that can be exchanged for one or more postage stamps <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postage_stamp>representing the minimum postage for an unregistered priority airmail letter of up to twenty grams sent to another Universal Postal Union<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Postal_Union>(UPU) member country. IRCs are accepted by all UPU member countries. UPU member postal services are obliged to exchange an IRC for postage, but are not obliged to sell them. The purpose of the IRC is to be able to send someone in another country a letter, along with the cost of postage for them to reply. If the addressee is within the same country, there is no need for an IRC because a self-addressed stamped envelope<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-addressed_stamped_envelope>(SASE) will suffice; but if the addressee is in another country an IRC removes the necessity of acquiring foreign postage<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postage>or sending appropriate currency <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency>. Alternatively you need to acquire UK stamps to cover postage back to Canada and send that to the farm occupier. Sometimes if you're writing to a 'cousin' interested in genealogy you can get away without sending anything but to someone from whom you're wanting information you're far better sending the postage ...without it your letter might end up in the bin. Irene 2009/12/2 Gramps <w.innes@videotron.ca> > Hi. This might be silly on my part but what are International reply > Coupons. > > William > >

Gramps wrote: > This is a present day working farm in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland. > How do I go about finding who the people are that are running this farm today. > > William Innes in Montreal > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > William this farm is of interest to us also, below is a list of our Hay members that also came or worked at the farm. > Some years ago we traced the farm and sent an email to which we did not receive a reply, I am looking for our previous research and cannot put my finger on it as yet. Still looking are any of the Hays in your research? _James Hay(b 05.09.1736)+ Ann Riach _ m 8.12.1761 Achlanchy? Female 17.12.1762 Kirkmichael Isobel 31.05.1764 " John 3.08.1766 " Nathaniel 14.01.1769 " William 20.04.1771 " Robert 31.03.1774 " Boilbarn James 5.02.1780 " Barbara 15.02.1785 " Will contact my cuz also and see if she has it Bev Love (nee Hay)

Remember and enclose a couple of international reply coupons .....boost your chances of getting a reply. Irene 2009/12/2 Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> > > You could write to them as you have the address. Scotland is a very > small country. Explain the situation and hope that they will reply with > information that will help your search. > Good luck! > > Sheila. > > > > > Gramps wrote: > > > >> This is a present day working farm in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland. > >> How do I go about finding who the people are that are running this farm > today. > >> > >> William Innes in Montreal > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

You could write to them as you have the address. Scotland is a very small country. Explain the situation and hope that they will reply with information that will help your search. Good luck! Sheila. > Gramps wrote: > >> This is a present day working farm in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland. >> How do I go about finding who the people are that are running this farm today. >> >> William Innes in Montreal >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >

Hi. This might be silly on my part but what are International reply Coupons. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene Macleod" <lowlandscot@sky.com> To: <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Achlichny Farm > Remember and enclose a couple of international reply coupons .....boost > your > chances of getting a reply. > > Irene > > 2009/12/2 Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> > >> >> You could write to them as you have the address. Scotland is a very >> small country. Explain the situation and hope that they will reply with >> information that will help your search. >> Good luck! >> >> Sheila. >> >> >> >> > Gramps wrote: >> > >> >> This is a present day working farm in Kirkmichael, Banff, Scotland. >> >> How do I go about finding who the people are that are running this >> >> farm >> today. >> >> >> >> William Innes in Montreal >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >