I would think all of them eventually. findyourpast is slowly putting all government records (or for BMD, the index) in England on line. It is a pay to view site with as-you-go or annual subscription plans. Images to date have been high quality. The current research costs for the National Archives is why this announcement got me excited. -- Jo-Ann Croft -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Cameron MCBAIN <clmcbain@rogers.com> > I paid a good bundle to have a researcher go to Kew for me to look at Chelsea > records - no regrets, that's the way the techno ball bounces. > > How much of the records will be online?

I paid a good bundle to have a researcher go to Kew for me to look at Chelsea records - no regrets, that's the way the techno ball bounces. How much of the records will be online? Cam mCbain ________________________________ From: Carol Sklinar <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> To: moray@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 2:16:48 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Chelsea Pensioner records coming online Sounds like good news as one of the Riach lot was a Chelsea Pensioner Carol jecroft@att.net wrote: > findmypast.co.uk , the site for records in England will be putting the Chelsea Pensioner records online in 2010. > > "In store for 2010...  > We will be significantly expanding our military records, including launching online for the first time anywhere Chelsea Pensioner service records and militia attestation papers (detailed military registration service records, containing personal details and physical descriptions). These are being provided in association with The National Archives." > > They will also be adding maritime BMDs and Irish records.  > > -- > Jo-Ann Croft > >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.138/2618 - Release Date: 01/13/10 07:35:00 > >  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds like good news as one of the Riach lot was a Chelsea Pensioner Carol jecroft@att.net wrote: > findmypast.co.uk , the site for records in England will be putting the Chelsea Pensioner records online in 2010. > > "In store for 2010... > We will be significantly expanding our military records, including launching online for the first time anywhere Chelsea Pensioner service records and militia attestation papers (detailed military registration service records, containing personal details and physical descriptions). These are being provided in association with The National Archives." > > They will also be adding maritime BMDs and Irish records. > > -- > Jo-Ann Croft > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.138/2618 - Release Date: 01/13/10 07:35:00 > >

findmypast.co.uk , the site for records in England will be putting the Chelsea Pensioner records online in 2010. "In store for 2010... We will be significantly expanding our military records, including launching online for the first time anywhere Chelsea Pensioner service records and militia attestation papers (detailed military registration service records, containing personal details and physical descriptions). These are being provided in association with The National Archives." They will also be adding maritime BMDs and Irish records. -- Jo-Ann Croft

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His marriage record (after 1891 census) might give his father's name, but he was born out of wedlock. Simpson Alexander McKenzie b 8 April 1861, Elgin Parent: Jessie McKenzie Jessie McKenzie m. Alexander Hutcheon 29 Jan 1875, Elgin 1891 Scotland Census about Simpson Riach Name: Simpson Riach Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Jessie Gender: Male Where born: Elgin, Elginshire Registration Number: 135 Registration district: Elgin Civil parish: Elgin Town: Elgin County: Moray Address: 241 High St Occupation: Tailor ED: 2 Household schedule number: 149 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1891_38 Household Members: Name Age Jessie Hutcheon 55 Simpson Riach 30 John Hutcheon 16 Gordon Hutcheon 13 Robert Hutcheon 10 -- Jo-Ann Croft

Sorry should have made the last section more clear just looked on my tree again, this time for Alexander Simpson Riach and found one born in 1854 in Edinburgh (?), the son of William Riach and Helen. William b 1835 in Elgin, was the son of Alexander RIACH and Jean Smith. The 1901 census tells Simpson was born c 1864 - so it looks like another Riach problem !!! Carol Sklinar wrote: > Hi David, > > just looked on my tree again, this time for Alexander Simpson Riach and > found one born in 1854 in Edinburgh (?), the son of William Riach and > Helen. William b 1835 in Elgin, was the son of Alexander and Jean Smith. > > The 1901 census tells Simpson was born c 1864 - so it looks like another > Riach problem !!! > > regards > > Carol > > > > DAVID FELL wrote: > >> Hi Carol >> >> I have the same as you. >> >> I suspect this one is an illegitimate son of Simpson bn in 1834,but no proof. >> >> This Simpson also changes names from Simpson to Simpson Alexander Riach. Alexander could be his Grandfather Alexander Riach. >> >> David >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Carol Sklinar <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> >> To: moray@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, 9 January, 2010 18:23:45 >> Subject: Re: [MORAY] 1901 Census >> >> Hi David, >> >> I have 3 Simpson Riach's in my tree, could you tell me have they family >> connections ? >> >> Also when was Simpson born as I have 1834, 1858 and 1862 - with fathers >> George, Alexander and blank >> >> regards >> >> Carol >> daughter of a Riach >> >> DAVID FELL wrote: >> >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I am hoping that someone can help me, please. >>> >>> Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page: 12; Line: 7; Roll CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. >>> >>> There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. >>> >>> Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2611 - Release Date: 01/10/10 07:35:00 > >

Hi David, just looked on my tree again, this time for Alexander Simpson Riach and found one born in 1854 in Edinburgh (?), the son of William Riach and Helen. William b 1835 in Elgin, was the son of Alexander and Jean Smith. The 1901 census tells Simpson was born c 1864 - so it looks like another Riach problem !!! regards Carol DAVID FELL wrote: > Hi Carol > > I have the same as you. > > I suspect this one is an illegitimate son of Simpson bn in 1834,but no proof. > > This Simpson also changes names from Simpson to Simpson Alexander Riach. Alexander could be his Grandfather Alexander Riach. > > David > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carol Sklinar <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> > To: moray@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 9 January, 2010 18:23:45 > Subject: Re: [MORAY] 1901 Census > > Hi David, > > I have 3 Simpson Riach's in my tree, could you tell me have they family > connections ? > > Also when was Simpson born as I have 1834, 1858 and 1862 - with fathers > George, Alexander and blank > > regards > > Carol > daughter of a Riach > > DAVID FELL wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I am hoping that someone can help me, please. >> >> Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page: 12; Line: 7; Roll CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. >> >> There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. >> >> Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! >> >> Regards >> >> Dave >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 > >

Thanks to all that have repiled to my message yesterday. The map was fascinating! History of the area amazing, might try and get the book as I love the social history aspect of my hobby as well!   I have looked on GRO Scotland site and yes they were both prisoners... I had wondered if this was a branch of the workhouse and they were just inmates. Going to get some more information as suggested from Elgin Local Studies! Thanks once again. Dave

Still no mention of a criminal record ( strange) ! But here is Ann Fench on LIBINDX. Why don't you go to the site and ask for a newspaper or the poor relief records look up? The poor relief records may give some information on the prison time and reason http://libindx.moray.gov.uk For your information LADY Lane is a street in Elgin immortalised in Jessie Kesson's acclaimed autobiographical novel 'The White Bird Passes'. It was known for prostitution and was one of the poorest lanes in Elgin ! Biography Details Reference No.:  NM191288 Surname:  RIACH Forename(s):  ANN Maiden Name:  FRENCH Occupation:   Date of Birth:  c. 1874 Place of Birth:  ELGIN Father's Name:  WILLIAM FRENCH Mother's Name:  ELIZABETH MCALISTER OR MCARTHUR Biography:  LIVED AT 1 LADY LANE ELGIN & 6 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET ELGIN Marriage Details Spouse's Name:  SIMPSON RIACH TAILOR Date of Marriage:   Place of Marriage:   Married by:   Marriage Narrative:  MOTHER OF JESSIE FRENCH Death Details Date of Death:  post 1908 Age:   Headstone Ref:   Place of Death:   Parish Register:   Death Narrative:   Newspaper Articles Newspaper Description  Date  Page/Column Miscellaneous Articles Date Description Miscellaneous 1900 application for poor relief to the parish of Elgin - MF D EL9 [GRC archives - ZPEL A5/11 p127] 1909 entry in register of poor for parish of Elgin - MF D EL20 [GRC archives - ZPEL A5/103 p303] Regards Karen The Good You Do Comes Back To You. --- On Sat, 9/1/10, DAVID FELL <felly@btinternet.com> wrote: From: DAVID FELL <felly@btinternet.com> Subject: [MORAY] 1901 Census To: moray@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 18:03 Hi All I am hoping that someone can help me, please. Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page:  12; Line: 7; Roll  CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! Regards Dave   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is a link to the Elgin town map on the NLS website. The section you need is the right-hand center one. http://www.nls.uk/maps/townplans/elgin.html Greyfriars St is on the south side of the Prison Complex which is bounded by Glover and Commerce Sts on the east and west. -- Jo-Ann Croft -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: DAVID FELL <felly@btinternet.com> > Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any > reference on the net!

Hi Carol I have the same as you. I suspect this one is an illegitimate son of Simpson bn in 1834,but no proof. This Simpson also changes names from Simpson to Simpson Alexander Riach. Alexander could be his Grandfather Alexander Riach.  David   ________________________________ From: Carol Sklinar <carol@wakefieldfhs.org.uk> To: moray@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 9 January, 2010 18:23:45 Subject: Re: [MORAY] 1901 Census Hi David, I have 3 Simpson Riach's in my tree, could you tell me have they family connections  ? Also when was Simpson born as I have 1834, 1858 and 1862 - with fathers George, Alexander and blank regards Carol daughter of a Riach DAVID FELL wrote: > Hi All > > I am hoping that someone can help me, please. > > Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page:  12; Line: 7; Roll  CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. > > There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. > > Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! > > Regards > > Dave  >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 > >  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sure it doesn't read pensioner?? This is him inthe LIBINDX.If they had had a criminal record I would have expected it to be listed but it isn't. Nor is there a newspaper article about this. Biography Details Reference No.:  NM269906 Surname:  RIACH Forename(s):  SIMPSON ALEXANDER Maiden Name:  MCKENZIE Occupation:  TAILOR Date of Birth:  c. 1861 Place of Birth:   Father's Name:   Mother's Name:  JESSIE MCKENZIE COOK Biography:   Marriage Details Partner's Name:  ANNIE FRENCH Date of Marriage:   Place of Marriage:   Married by:   Marriage Narrative:   Death Details Date of Death:  11 NOV 1943 Age:  82 Headstone Ref:   Place of Death:  287 HIGH STREET ELGIN Regards Karen The Good You Do Comes Back To You. --- On Sat, 9/1/10, DAVID FELL <felly@btinternet.com> wrote: From: DAVID FELL <felly@btinternet.com> Subject: [MORAY] 1901 Census To: moray@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 9 January, 2010, 18:03 Hi All I am hoping that someone can help me, please. Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page:  12; Line: 7; Roll  CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! Regards Dave   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, I have 3 Simpson Riach's in my tree, could you tell me have they family connections ? Also when was Simpson born as I have 1834, 1858 and 1862 - with fathers George, Alexander and blank regards Carol daughter of a Riach DAVID FELL wrote: > Hi All > > I am hoping that someone can help me, please. > > Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page: 12; Line: 7; Roll CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. > > There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. > > Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! > > Regards > > Dave > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2609 - Release Date: 01/09/10 07:35:00 > >

Hi All I am hoping that someone can help me, please. Parish: Elgin; ED: 6; Page:  12; Line: 7; Roll  CSSCT1901_40; Year: 1901. There is a Simpson RIACH, a Tailor and his wife Annie described as prisoners based in 22 Greyfriars Street. The address is classed as prison buildings. Anyone have any idea what 22 Greyfriars Street would be? Cannot find any reference on the net! Regards Dave  

I wrote the Moray Council and expressed my displeasure with this plan.  You should do that, also.  I even got a response from them that my views would be considered.  John Anderson Pflugerville, TX ________________________________ From: Faye <faye5029@shaw.ca> To: Moray@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 10:12:44 PM Subject: [MORAY] Great Savings plan I just heard via the grapevine that there is a plan to cut a whole range of services to reduce  Moray Council's expenditures. I hope this does not involve any of the genealogy services.  I was not able to find any information on my grandparents, James Laing and Elizabeth Bartlett, on the internet until someone gave me a hint of your web-site using LIBINDEX  I was then able to find both my grandparents information in Burghead. I have even been able to trace back to mid 1770s.  Without your website that would not be possible.  Nowhere else led me to look at Morayshire..  Most of the search engines do not seem to locate much in Moray. I am looking forward to making a trip from Canada to Burghead, Elgin area possibly this year or next year.  I hope these cuts do not go too deep. I was hoping to take advantage of some of the local expertise. Thank you again for your web-site Faye Graham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just heard via the grapevine that there is a plan to cut a whole range of services to reduce Moray Council's expenditures. I hope this does not involve any of the genealogy services. I was not able to find any information on my grandparents, James Laing and Elizabeth Bartlett, on the internet until someone gave me a hint of your web-site using LIBINDEX I was then able to find both my grandparents information in Burghead. I have even been able to trace back to mid 1770s. Without your website that would not be possible. Nowhere else led me to look at Morayshire.. Most of the search engines do not seem to locate much in Moray. I am looking forward to making a trip from Canada to Burghead, Elgin area possibly this year or next year. I hope these cuts do not go too deep. I was hoping to take advantage of some of the local expertise. Thank you again for your web-site Faye Graham

Since I couldn't find him in the 1911 Canadian census, I checked the 1912 Toronto City directory (www.archive.org - the 'read online' version is the best), and there was a John Watson, occupation 'cond' boarding at 64 Hillsboro Ave. I looked up that address in the 1911 census and found a John Wilson, born Apr 1878, born Scotland, occupation streetcar conductor, who immigrated in 1902. If you look closely at the image - the 'l' might actually be a 't', and the birth date matches. No sign of a child. http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=81749 Robin -----Original Message----- From: moray-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:moray-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mandy Wilson Sent: January-04-10 4:50 PM To: moray@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MORAY] maggie findlay Goldie / Robin Many thanks for your advice.  Im off now to have a scan through those websites Best wishes mandy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Holler if you need some help.......I'm sure Robin feels the same way.....Goldie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mandy Wilson" <forsyth246@yahoo.com> To: <moray@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] maggie findlay Goldie / Robin Many thanks for your advice. Im off now to have a scan through those websites Best wishes mandy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MORAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Goldie / Robin Many thanks for your advice.  Im off now to have a scan through those websites Best wishes mandy