Hi, I have an ancestor who was baptized Alexanderina but on her marriage cert. it was Alexandra. Probably no one spelled her baptismal name correctly. It IS a bit awkward. Gay -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess [mailto:anne.burgess@btinternet.com] Sent: December 22, 2004 5:48 AM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MORAY] RE: Names > In the 1841 Census of Aberdeenshire [draft transcription] there was only > one record of Alexandra but 19 of Alexandrina and 4 of Alexanderina. I > don't know what the modern spread is in N.E. Scotland but Alexandra is > almost certainly the most popular of these variants in England. This probably arises from naming a child after a male relative regardless of the sex of the child. A daughter would get the male name with '-ina' tacked on the end. Alexanderina isn't too bad, and Jamesina, Williamina, Robertina, Georgeina, Thomasina and Davidina are passable too. But I don't much like Johnina, and I am grateful not to have been named Gordonina after my father. I always feel rather sorry for girls (or rather women, as the name has fallen out of fashion) named Murdochina, though! Anne ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Gavin, Boy, do I have egg on my face. I can't believe I didn't even notice the date problem!!!! Thanks so much for pointing it out to me. I will take another look at this. I have John Abel's marriage certificate (from the online GRO) which showed the parent names and got the marriage information for John's parents from the online LDS site. Also got the 1841 and 1851 census data from two online sites. I have the 1881 census disks from the LDS. I will go back and trace my steps. Thanks so much for the suggestion of death certificate. I only get to obtain information from Scotlands People a few times a year and I need to make a list of all the items to look at so I get the most use of my "time period". Appreciate your help Gavin. -Barbara

Hi Ray, I had a good look at your names site. It really is easy to use and informative. Thanks for posting it on the list. Merry Christmas Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <rayhennessy@iclway.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Names > Hi Tina > > My new website will give you all the variants, nicknames, etc, of > Alexander, or at least all the ones I know. I'm hoping your query will > generate some more. Another common pet name is Zander. > > Ray Hennessy > > Site URL is http://www.whatsinaname.net/index.html > [Site still in draft form so layout needs work. Please comment.] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C Port" <cport@bigpond.net.au> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:21 AM > Subject: [MORAY] Names > > >> Can anyone with local knowledge tell me if it was common for people >> called Alexander to be referred to as Sandy >> >> Thanks for any help >> Tina > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Thanks to everyone on the list who helped me with Alexander variants. It seems it was very common. Merry Christmas to all Tina

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Some more Davidsons: Alexander Davidson m. Marion Margaret Grant, 27 Nov 1840. In the IGI records the marriage is listed twice on the same date in both Elgin, and in Cromdale and Inverallan and Advie. I understand it was common for the churches of both the bride and groom to record the marriage in this way. The family lived in Elgin and so I assume Alexander was from Elgin and Marion from the Cromdale area. They had at least 6 children: Robert, b 1841 John, 1843 Margaret Marion, 1847 who emigrated to NZ (my ggm) Marjory, 1849 Grace, 1854 Alexander, 1856 I know very little about the family and would appreciate any information or leads. I initially had a false lead from a family member who thought that the parents of Margaret, my ggm, were James Davidson and Anne Souter of Elgin. Consequently I do have some information on this family should anyone be interested. Murray Christchurch, New Zealand >-----Original Message----- >From: Avalonwilli@aol.com [mailto:Avalonwilli@aol.com] >Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:55 >To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MORAY] RE: Davidson > >I have Peter Davidson married Ann Morrison both born about 1800 , >Rayne. Next is Alexander Davidson married Mary Carle >February 23 , 1861 My connection comes down >to >the Andersons from Aberdeen >William > >______________________________ > > >==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > >

Hello list, I am hoping someone can help me identify the parents of Margaret DONALD. She was probably born between 1820 and 1823 in St Andrews Moray. This is all the information I have on her... Margaret DONALD was married to Alexander ABEL (gg grandfather) on 31 Dec 1830 in Kintore Aberdeen. Margaret and Alexander had at least 10 children born in Cluny, Aberdeen. The children's names are: Alexander b 1842 James b 1844 William b 1846 Margaret b 1848 John b 1850 (my g grandfather) Anne b 1852 Agnes b 1856 George b 1858 Grace b 1859 Harvey Williamson b 1862 Margaret had died before the 1881 census was taken. The 1851 census shows Margaret and Alexander and 5 of their children living in Nether Drumnahoy in Cluny. Margaret is age 28 and the census shows she was born in St Andrews, Moray. Subsequent census data may possibly support the birth county but I do not have the census data for 1861 and 1871. Margaret and Alexander were also living at Nether Drumnahoy in the 1841 census. Margaret is shown to be age 20 and born outside of the census county. The family search site shows a Margaret Donald christened in 1822 in Cluny but I could not find a birth/christening in Moray during this time frame. I would appreciate it if anyone has any additional information on Margaret DONALD. Thank you so much. Barbara Nellesen Georgia, USA Direct Surnames: Aberdeen ABEL - Cluny, Kintore, OldMachar, Inverurie ANDERSON - Logie-Coldstone DONALD - Cluny ROSS - Cluny SHERIFFS - Kintore, Logie-Coldstone STEPHEN - Kintore Moray DONALD - St Andrews Lanark ALLAN - Wishaw BROCK - Barony COMERFORD/CUMMERFORD - Cambusnethan, Old Monkland, Dalserf- MEARNS - Hamilton, Glasgow MORRISON - Wishaw Ayr COMERFORD/CUMMERFORD Surnames by Marriage: Aberdeen CALDER - Kintore HAY Old Machar McALLEN - Old Machar SMART - St Machar

Hi folks, Yet more Davidsons. Mine farmed at Clunes in Nairnshire. By the way I assume you all know the Davidsons are associated with Tulloch Castle in Dingwall, Ross-shire. The landed family was Davidson of Tulloch and they sold out to the Vickers of Vickers Armstrong fame. Merry Christmas to one and all Mark John M. Sutherland-Fisher Past President and Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie Professional Genealogist and Director: Fisher (Holiday Enterprises) Ltd web-site: www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk email: info@highland-family-heritage.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess [mailto:anne.burgess@btinternet.com] Sent: 21 December 2004 10:05 To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MORAY] RE: Davidson Since we are swapping Davidsons: In my direct line I have John Davidson (1781-1861), born Tofthill of Auchline, Clatt, Aberdeenshire, son of Alexander Davidson and Margaret Wright. He married Christian Wright. Anne ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing list Admin. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Jenny Thanks for your help. Regards Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby & Jen" <ozmcfall@optusnet.com.au> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Names > Hi Tina, > > My Dad, Alexander, was born in Perthshire. He is known as Alex, Alister, > Sandy, Alec and a number of other names! > > JennyMc > Brisbane > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted > message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the > sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you > ;-) > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi Jan Thanks for your help. REgards Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Bell" <newsdesk1_2000@yahoo.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Names > I'm sure i'm not alone with this Tina. I have several Alexanders in my > family who have been & are called Sandy. > > Regards. > > Jan > > > > Jan Bell > Newsdesk1_2000@yahoo.co.uk > Newsdesk1@excite.com > > --------------------------------- > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted > message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the > sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you > ;-) > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi Tina, My Dad, Alexander, was born in Perthshire. He is known as Alex, Alister, Sandy, Alec and a number of other names! JennyMc Brisbane

> Aren't Sissie, Ciss, Siss, & Cissie a families' nick name for Sister? I've asked a friend who had an aunt Cis/sie. he had some difficulty remembering what her official name was, but was quite clear that it was from 'Sister', she being the only girl in a family of boys. Anne

Can anyone with local knowledge tell me if it was common for people called Alexander to be referred to as Sandy Thanks for any help Tina

Hi I have the Bellie OPR and would be pleased to transcribe some of this but obviously not all as it would take a long time. It has three sections 126/1, 126/2 and 126/3. The first of these has Births and Marriages and the other two include Deaths (or more accurately Burials). Ian A C Scott

Hi Tina My new website will give you all the variants, nicknames, etc, of Alexander, or at least all the ones I know. I'm hoping your query will generate some more. Another common pet name is Zander. Ray Hennessy Site URL is http://www.whatsinaname.net/index.html [Site still in draft form so layout needs work. Please comment.] ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Port" <cport@bigpond.net.au> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:21 AM Subject: [MORAY] Names > Can anyone with local knowledge tell me if it was common for people > called Alexander to be referred to as Sandy > > Thanks for any help > Tina

The Banffshire pages on GENUKI have just been updated. Details at: www.abdn.net/genuki/BAN/whatsnew.html Gavin Bell

Tina wrote: > Can anyone with local knowledge tell me if it was common for people > called Alexander to be referred to as Sandy It was and is. And the ones not known as Sandy will be Alex (pronounced "Aleck", and sometimes abbreviated to just "Eck"). Gavin Bell

>I can only find Rayne in Essex, England. > Is there another elsewhere? > Chris Ridings Yes, there is a parish of Rayne in Aberdeenshire. If you go to www.streetmap.co.uk and search for Old Rayne you will see where it is. Anne

Chris, There is an Old Rayne in Aberdeenshire, not far from Inverurie. Jan Aberdeenshire -----Original Message----- From: Chris Ridings [mailto:tutu@atu.com.au] Sent: 20 December 2004 22:39 To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MORAY] RE: Davidson I can only find Rayne in Essex, England. Is there another elsewhere? My DAVIDSONs come from Cruden, Abd c1811. There are many of the name in Abderdeenshire going back to about the 1400s, I understand. Chris Ridings -----Original Message----- From: Avalonwilli@aol.com [mailto:Avalonwilli@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 11:55 To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MORAY] RE: Davidson I have Peter Davidson married Ann Morrison both born about 1800 , Rayne. Next is Alexander Davidson married Mary Carle February 23 , 1861 My connection comes down to the Andersons from Aberdeen William ______________________________ ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Dear All Does anyone know how the transcriptions of the 1841 Morayshire Census, for FreeCen, is coming along or does anyone have access to them? Best Wishes Julia Dundee, Scotland