George, I have an Elizabeth Jameson from New Spynie who married William Rhind of Duffus in 1795 in New Spynie. Regards, Linda Boyd > > Wrom: ONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNY > Date: 2005/02/01 Tue AM 12:23:31 GMT > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MORAY] Wm JAMIESON m.1720? Isabell MORTIMER/Geo JAMIESON m.1717? Marjory GATHERER both in Bellie, Moray > > Does anyone have a connection to the above couples? I am possibly connected > to Wm, but a brickwall exists. I am hoping to find a way around it. I think > Geo is his brother. > > I would also be very interested to hear from anyone who has a JAMIESON > connection. > > Regards > George > London UK > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi George The Bellie OPR shows: (1) William Jamison and Isabel Mortimer had seven children between 1720 and 1736. George born 1720, Burnside, christened 30 Jan 1720, witnesses George Jamison, Bogmoor and George Geddes in Auchinreath. John born 1722, Dryburn, christened 7 May 1722, witnesses John Miln, Culriach and John Mortimer, Glenrinnes. Andrew born 1724, Dryburn, christened 5 Jul 1724, witnesses Andrew Innes, Floods and Andrew Jamison, Bogmoor. William born 1727, Bogmoor, christened 12 Sep 1727, witnesses William Innes, Floods and William Robertson, Culriach. Thomas and Alexander (twins) born Dryburn, 1730, christened 11 Feb 1730, witnesses Alexander Innes and Nans Innes and Margaret Mitchell, Walheads (probably Wellheads). Margaret born Dryburn 1736, christened 30 Mar 1736, witnesses James Paterson, Cowiemuir, Robert Sherar, Bellie. (2) George Jamison and Marjory Gatherer had five children between 1717 and 1737. Margrat born Bogmoor 1717, christened 20 Jul 1717, witnesses Andrew Innes, Floods and William Gordon, Culriach Alexander born Bogmuir 1719, christened 26 Jul 1719, witnesses Al (Alexander ?) Morison, Floods and Al Innes, Dryburn. Elspet born Bogmuir 1727, christened 31 Jan 1727, witnesses William Robertson, Culriach, James Taylor, Bogmuir and William Jamison, Dryburn. John born Bogmuir 1731, christened 25 Sep 1731, witnesses John Gordon, Portioner, Upper Dallachie and John Annand Upper Dallachie. George born Bogmuir 1734, christened 15 Dec 1734, witnesses George Anderson, Dallachie, George Moor, Culriach and George Burges, Upper Auchinreath. Unfortunately, the Bellie OPR only goes back to 1709 for Births and 1723 for Marriages so I cannot give you any information regarding the marriages of these couples. The Speyside MIs pre 1855 (stone 143) shows Geo Jameson, fr N Dallachy 23.6.1780 61, w Kath Innes 29.6.1780 63, s Alex 6.2.1782 25, da Hellen 22.12.1789 30, ed by Jas Geddes in N Auchinreath their.........(rest of inscription hidden) John Jameson at Bogmoor 24.12.1910 86, w Helen Stewart 16.8.1908 82. This George would appear to be the son of William and Isabel and the John who died in 1910 would be his brother. The ages on the inscription do not exactly match the christening records in the OPR but this is not an uncommon occurrence. The MIs also list a John Jamieson, feuar Fochabers 28.5.1860 80, w Agnes Longmore 1848 60. s geo 3.3.1831 16. and T Smith esq surgeon Fochabers, w Jane 6.5.1837 50. gch inf (.......of John Jameson esq).....(rest of stone covered by broken headstone) Unfortunately, this does not give any positive links between the two couples although you will notice that they appear to have been witnesses at the christening of a child of the other which could indicate they were brothers or cousins. There is also an Andrew Jamison, Bogmoor shown as a witness at the christening of Andrew Jamison in 1730. I have noticed in my research of this Parish it was quite common for the witnesses at the christening of a son to have the same given name as the child being christened. While this also happened with daughters it was not so consistent. I hope this is of some use to you. Ian A C Scott

It is worth mentioning that Port Gordon (or Portgordon, if you prefer), has a wonderful website celebrating the village and it's history. It can be found at: http://www.portgordon.org.uk/index.htm _________________//// Barry E. R. Fraser http://www.fraserofwesthill.com/ ______________________________////

Hi George, I have an Ann Jamieson in my tree. What I do know is that Ann Jamieson married Alexander Davidson. They had at least one child, James Davidson born 1786 in Rathven. That is all I know. I too have hit a brick wall. Here is the info I received from the Moray Council - "Since James Davidson and Helen Simpson were married in the RomanCatholic Church and their children were baptized into it, it seems probablethat his parents Alexander Davidson and Ann Jamieson were also members. Unfortunately the earliest known surviving Catholic baptism records for the Buckie area are 1787 (Preshome, Enzie) and marriage are 1794. We have found no mention of Alexander and Ann Davidson in these records. Similarly we have found no mention of them on a legible gravestone in Moray. It may prove fruitful to contact the Scottish Catholic Archives:- http://www.catholic-heritage.net/sca/genealogy.htm I have not contact the the catholic heritage yet. Mona Davidson - Tisler Virgina, USA --- George Jamieson <george.jamieson@btinternet.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a connection to the above couples? > I am possibly connected > to Wm, but a brickwall exists. I am hoping to find a > way around it. I think > Geo is his brother. > > I would also be very interested to hear from anyone > who has a JAMIESON > connection. > > Regards > George > London UK > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If > you have concerns about a virus, contact the list > admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or join > VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the > subject line. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Does anyone have a connection to the above couples? I am possibly connected to Wm, but a brickwall exists. I am hoping to find a way around it. I think Geo is his brother. I would also be very interested to hear from anyone who has a JAMIESON connection. Regards George London UK

Hi, I have been trying for some months to solve the identity of William M. GRANT who in the 1901 census, Aberlour, Banff, is living at 7 East Derrybeg, with James Stuart, Head, age 63 Farmer, born Banffshire, Aberlour Jean Stuart, wife, age 62 b. Morayshire, St Andrews Jean M. Stuart, daughter, single, age 38, born Morayshire, Forres Robert J. Stuart, son, age 19, born Banffshire, Aberlour William M. Grant, grandson, age 13, born Banffshire, Aberlour 'Jean M. Stuart' is actually 'Jean McIntosh', natural born daughter of Jean McBeath Stuart (wife of James here in the census). Jean McIntosh had two illegitimate children previously with John Grant: James Grant born 1880 and Jessie Ann born 1884. John Grant, the father of these children, was born in 1857 at Whitehorse, Edinvillie, Aberlour to John Grant and Janet Stuart. I have spent a fortune searching for a birth record for William M. Grant on Scotland's People and have not found a single satisfactory entry. I have concluded that he is the 3rd child of Jean McIntosh and John Grant but I cannot prove that. If anyone knows who the parents of William M. Grant are, please let me know! Thanks, Gay

Hello List, A researcher (cld be a Jill WISEMAN - in York) in 2003/04 contacted me re her family line of Wisemans. At the time I couldn't make a connection with my Wiseman line, now I think I can help her, anyone in contact with this lady would appreciate her e mail address or ask her to contact me, Thank youuuuuuuu. Pearl M. New Zealand.

Hi Portgordon was originally in the Parish of Rathven but the western part of Rathven and the eastern part of Bellie were formed into a Parish named Enzie and Portgordon was part of this new parish. If you go to _http://www.abdn.net/genuki/BAN/Enzie/index.html_ (http://www.abdn.net/genuki/BAN/Enzie/index.html) you will get a full story of Enzie Parish and see reference to Portgordon. Lossiemouth is in the Parish of Drainie, Morayshire. Ian A C Scott

Could someone please tell me what Parish Portgordon and Lossiemouth are in - If I understand correctly they are in county of Banffshire which is now Moray?? Thanks Jean Stewart - Canada

Hello Kathy, Margaret Donaldson who was baptised in Edinvillie, Aberlour on the 5th November 1724 was the daughter of Robert Donaldson and Margaret Meroues Robert was born c. 1684 and died on December 2, 1751. Margaret Meroues was born c. 1696 and died on January 12, 1731 both are buried in Aberlour churchyard as is their son Robert who was born in Edinvillie on 19th April 1729 and died in Edinvillie on the 7th May 1729. The above Robert Donaldson born c. 1684 was also married to Margaret Proctor and had a further 5 children with her.They were married in Aberlour on 18th June 1734 and 4 of their five children were also born in Edinvillie. I do have some information on Alexander Donaldson the brother of Margaret but not very much, if you would like this information as well please just ask. Can you let me know where your line fits in with this family so that i can add you to my on going database this will help me put you in touch with others researching the same family. Regards ray

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQueen Mitchell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1191.2 Message Board Post: We are looking for information about Margaret Cumming, who married David Mitchell in Edinkillie 25 Jan 1793. If anyone has information about this family, I would be very appreciative. Holly Kilpatrick East Bangor, PA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1191.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi! A few months ago I was in touch with Peter Davis through GenesReunited and he's helped me a lot with this family. Do you know much more than is here? I have a little that may interest you. Please contact me by email. Regards, William

Ray, I saw your message on the list, was wondering if you have found anything on Farquharsons, Mortlach parish- 1840-42?? I'm still searching anywhere I can think of, but no luck with James or his parent, James Farquharson and Jane Grant. As you know I have James from 1882 in NZ, but before that is still a mystery. Thought I had some leads on Jane Grant and James the father but they were different families. I am waiting for more certificates from NZ about the children of young James, when I get them I'll send you the info so you can add it to your lists in case someone else is looking too. Barbara -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/01/2005

Thanks William for your efforts. The 1958 lady is definately not her. Perhaps she was not buried in Montreal. Best regards Peter Ferguson ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Innes" <w.innes@sympatico.ca> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Montreal MI's > Sorry if I took so long to anser you. Only this morning did I locate two > Mackenzie's in the Protestant cemetery of Montreal. The date shown is the > date of burial. Any possability that 1958 is the one. Let me know. > > William > > Norena Sarah Mackenzie > > MABEL SARAH MACKENZIE (06/03/1958) > > SARAH MORRISON MACKENZIE (27/07/1881) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Ferguson" <pbi@austarnet.com.au> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Montreal MI's > > >> Hi William, >> >> I had another look at my records and the newspaper obit. says Norena >> Sarah Mackenzie was buried in Park Lawn (?). The clipping is a faxed >> photocopy and difficult to read. >> >> She never married. She was Presbyterian. >> >> She was born in Teeswater Ontario 13 Jul 1897 and died Montreal (I >> assume) 15 Jan 1959. Her parents were John Murdoch Mackenzie and Eva >> Gertrude Robins. >> >> She was the Director of Nursing in Montreal's Jewish General Hospital. >> Prior to that she was the Director of Nursing Education in Montreal >> General Hospital. Served in Italy during WWII with Canadian Red Cross and >> afterwards with UNRRA. She was a graduate of McGill University. >> >> Thank you for your interest and assistance >> >> Best regards >> >> Peter Ferguson >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "William Innes" <w.innes@sympatico.ca> >> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Montreal MI's >> >> >>> Hi Peter. This is William in Montreal. >>> >>> There are hundreds of McKenzie's buried in Montreal's two main >>> cemeteries. One being RC and the other Protestant. >>> >>> Is there in other information that you might be able to give me? >>> >>> As an example, was this Norina, Sarah McKenzie maiden name. Was she >>> married and to whom? >>> >>> Did she have any other names such as Elizabeth etc. Any idea where she >>> lived? >>> >>> You see, the RC cemetery has over 1 million buried there and the >>> Protestant over 700,000. >>> >>> William >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Ferguson" <pbi@austarnet.com.au> >>> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 4:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Montreal MI's >>> >>> >>>>I would be most grateful if you could check the Montreal cemeteries for >>>>my aunt Norena Sarah Mackenzie. She died on 13 Jan 1959. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Peter Ferguson >>>> In sunny NSW Australia >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <WSinnW@aol.com> >>>> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:31 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Montreal MI's >>>> >>>> >>>>> There are a few McKenzie's in both of Montreal's major cemeteries. >>>>> >>>>> Here is a partial list of the names you mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> James McKenzie >>>>> >>>>> JAMES KENNETH MCKENZIE (08/04/1956) >>>>> GEORGE JAMES MCKENZIE (13/12/1965) >>>>> JAMES MCKENZIE (03/08/1915) >>>>> JAMES (DAUG. OF) MCKENZIE (24/05/1913) >>>>> JAMES HUGH MCKENZIE (07/08/1955) >>>>> JAMES STUART MCKENZIE (09/05/1908) >>>>> JAMES MCKENZIE (29/08/1860) >>>>> JAMES MCKENZIE (07/03/1874) >>>>> JAMES DIACK MCKENZIE (12/05/1928) >>>>> JAMES MCKENZIE (14/08/1947) >>>>> JAMES MCKENZIE (13/11/1958) >>>>> WILLIAM JAMES MCKENZIE (30/12/1877) >>>>> JAMES KENNETH MCKENZIE (02/10/1967) >>>>> JAMES SIME MCKENZIE (13/11/1922) >>>>> >>>>> Catherine McKenzie ( I assume it is her married name. Do you have >>>>> her >>>>> maiden name ) >>>>> >>>>> CATHERINE AUSTIN MCKENZIE ( 26/01/1896 ) >>>>> CATHERINE MCKENZIE ( 21/03/1863 ) >>>>> >>>>> Both of Montreal's cemeteries were started in about 1850. At that time >>>>> one >>>>> was Roman Catholic and the other Protestant. Today they are both >>>>> Interdenominational. I you are able to give me more specific >>>>> information it would be >>>>> easier to find them. >>>>> >>>>> My preliminary findings indicate that we have found William, Mary and >>>>> Agnes >>>>> and this is to follow. >>>>> >>>>> Awaiting your reply >>>>> >>>>> William in montreal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >>>>> MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be >>>>> transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in >>>>> transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual >>>>> email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the >>>>> mailing list Admin. >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. 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G'day Cobbers, Looking at making contact with anybody related to the families mentioned below in order to obtain further information on these families. Descendants of Elspet DEAN & Charles McLEAN 1. Charles McLEAN , b. 15 Sep 1860 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 27 May 1933 in Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// Informant son John McLean, 50 Dalmeny Street, Edinburgh, Scotland>. He married Elspet (Elsie) DEAN , b. 10 Sep 1858 in Elgin, Moray Scotland, (daughter of Alexander DEAN and Isabella MELVIN ) christened 16 Sep 1858 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland, d. 06 Oct 1946 in 34 Royston Main Crescent, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// Informant to death son George D McLean, 7 Piershill Square, Edinburgh, Scotland>. 1.1. Charles (Pappa) McLEAN , b. 01 Feb 1893 in 51 South Street, Elgin, Scotland. He married Margery Murray WILSON , (daughter of James WILSON and Margaret BLAIK ). 1.1.1. Margaret Blaik McLEAN , b. 15 Nov 1920 in 11 South Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. She married James WHITE , b. Abt 1919, (son of Walter Blackie WHITE and Agnes Ramsay VALLANCE ). 1.1.2. Elspeth Dean McLEAN . 1.1.3. John McLEAN . 1.1.4. William Dean McLEAN , b. Abt 1923, d. 19 Jul 1944, buried in Grave/Memorial Reference I. A. 13., Banneville-La-Campagne War Cemetery, France. 1.1.5. David Grant McLEAN. 1.1.6. Norah Garvie McLEAN. 1.1.7. Flora June McLEAN. 1.2. Isabella Melvin (Bella) McLEAN, b. 02 Mar 1894 in South Street, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. She married David GRANT. 1.2.1. Bella GRANT. 1.3. Alexander McLEAN, b. 14 Nov 1895 in 11 Batchen Lane, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. 1.4. John Jenkins McLEAN, b. 22 Nov 1896 in 20 Batchen Lane, Elgin, Elgin, Scotland. 1.5. Robert Clark McLEAN, b. 10 Mar 1898 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland, d. 13 Feb 1899 in Garmouth, Moray, Scotland. 1.6. George Dean McLEAN, b. 23 Oct 1902 in 3 Greenside Road, Edinburgh, Scotland, d. 10 Jul 1965 in 4 Greendykes Terrace, Edinburgh, Scotland, <// Informant their son G. D. McLean, 7 Wester Broom Avenue, Edinburgh, Scotland // On the west of Edinburgh near the Gyle >. He married Mary SIMPSON. 1.6.1. G D McLEAN, b. in Scotland. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, Eng BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT BROWN - Wellington, NZ CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LANGDON - NZ LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, Eng. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand Helen's Stolen Generation Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

G'day Cobbers, Am wondering if anybody can assist me. I have the following, below, from the 1881 British Census and believe that Jessie McCASKIE is the married name of one Jessie Young DEAN, parents Alexander DEAN & Isabella MELVIN. Jessie McCASKIE is of the right age and born in the correct place but I need more definite confirmation then this. 1881 British Census - Is this Jessie Young DEAN?? Dwelling: 3 North College St Census Place: Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203433 GRO Ref Volume 135 EnumDist 5 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas MC CASKIE M 33 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Printer Compositor Jessie MC CASKIE M 32 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Wife Jessie MC CASKIE 13 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Maggie A. MC CASKIE 3 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Daur Cathrerine MC CASKIE 1 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Daur This is Jessie's sister, Margaret Geddes DEAN, who again I think I've found in the 1881 British Census, details as below: 1881 British Census - Is this Margaret?? Dwelling: 95 High St Census Place: Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203433 GRO Ref Volume 135 EnumDist 3 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John RIACH M 42 M Rothes, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Mason Margt. RIACH M 31 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Masons Wife Alexr. RIACH U 17 M Rothes, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Apprentice Plasterer Janet Or Jessie RIACH 8 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar William RIACH 7 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Divina RIACH 5 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Any help greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, Eng. BAILEY - Plymouth, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ BALDWIN - Kent, Eng>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, Eng BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT BROWN - Wellington, NZ CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT COKER - Rongeta, Wellington, NZ CROZIER - Banbridge, Down, NIR > NZ DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, Eng. FRANCES - AUS GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INCH - Cornwall, Eng>New Zealand INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LANGDON - NZ LAURANCE - Banff, SCT. LEYLAND - Warwick, Eng. LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Down/Antrim, NIR>Qld, AUS MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McFADDEN -Down, NIR McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS RAFFAN - Banff, SCT REEVES - Yorkshire (?), Eng. RUNNALLS/REYNOLDS - Cornwall, Eng. ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT RUDD - Westmoreland, Eng>Qld, AUS SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT SPRENGER - Qld, AUS STUART - Moray, SCT WAKEFIELD - Stroud, Gloucester, Eng>Qld, AUS WARBURTON -Cheshire, Eng>New Plymouth, Taranaki, NZ WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, Eng. WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand Helen's Stolen Generation Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

G'day Cobbers, I have reason to believe that John McLEAN b. 08 Sep 1867, Garmouth, Moray, Scotland [Parents: Charles & Mary (nee CLARK) McLEAN], is to be found in the Elgin area, where he was living, working and possibly died. I don't know if he married or if he had any children. Any information or assistance with my g-g uncle would be greatly appreciated. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Helen's Stolen Generation Radio Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

G'day Cobbers, Have some information on my McLEAN ancestry on my homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS Below is part of an email from a third cousin of mine, recently "discovered", which relates to the GRANT surname: "Yes this Bella (McLEAN) is the one we are interested in. She is the daughter of Charles McLean and Elspet Dean hence my mother's aunt. She married David Grant and they had one daughter also called Bella. It was she who went to Australia about 1949ish but she was married by then and as yet I have not found her married name. A couple of years later her parents Bella and David followed her out and remained there where they presumably died. I have no idea where they settled but I believe most emigrants then went to Melbourne and Sydney. Bella Grant may still be alive and would be about 84 yrs old now. No 34 Royston Mains Crescent Edinburgh, where Elspet Dean died was the home of Charles McLean and Marjory Wilson {my mothers parents} and Elspet Dean lived with them for the last 3 years of her life. Previously to this she lived at 10 Caledonian Crescent Edinburgh. Royston Mains Crescent was also where my parents lived when I was born so was my first home." Is anybody able to assist me with the surname of Bella GRANT's husband. I am trying to trace this family in Australia but need Bella's married name. Look forward to hearing from any McLEAN relatives. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Helen's Stolen Generation Radio Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

> I have reason to believe that John McLEAN b. 08 Sep 1867, Garmouth, > Moray, > Scotland [Parents: Charles & Mary (nee CLARK) McLEAN], is to be found in > the > Elgin area, where he was living, working and possibly died. Hi Greg Have you looked in the1891 and 1901 Census at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk? Anne

> I have the following, below, from the 1881 British Census and believe that > Jessie McCASKIE is the married name of one Jessie Young DEAN, parents > Alexander DEAN & Isabella MELVIN. > > Jessie McCASKIE is of the right age and born in the correct place but I > need > more definite confirmation then this. > > 1881 British Census - Is this Jessie Young DEAN?? > Dwelling: 3 North College St > Census Place: Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203433 GRO Ref Volume 135 EnumDist 5 > Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Thomas MC CASKIE M 33 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Printer Compositor > Jessie MC CASKIE M 32 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Wife > Jessie MC CASKIE 13 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Maggie A. MC CASKIE 3 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Cathrerine MC CASKIE 1 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Daur The IGI lists a marriage of a Thomas McCaskie to Jessie George in Elgin on 2 January 1875. There is no other Jessie McCaskie in the 1881 census in the north of Scotland, so it looks as if this isn't your Jessie Dean. A look at Maggie's or Catherine's birth certificate would sort this out. The IGI also lists the marriage of a Jessie Dean to Alexander McNeil on 9 December 1870 in New Spynie, and the following children: Mary, born 11 December 1870 James, born 15 December 1872 William Dean, born 7 November 1874 and this looks like the family in 1881: Dwelling: Kirkton Farm Ho Census Place: Cromdale, Elgin, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203431 GRO Ref Volume 128-B2 EnumDist 2 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Alexr. MC NEILL M 35 M I Of Barra, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farm Overseer Jessie MC NEILL M 32 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Wife Mary MC NEILL 10 F New Spyvie, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Alexr. MC NEILL 3 M New Spyvie, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Son Donald MC KENZIE U 17 M Inverallan, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Farm Serv Archd. MC RIMMON U 42 M Dunnach, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Cattleman Duncan GRANT U 37 M Cawdor, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Shepherd Have a look at the marriage certificate to see if this is your Jessie Young Dean. > This is Jessie's sister, Margaret Geddes DEAN, who again I think I've > found > in the 1881 British Census, details as below: > > 1881 British Census - Is this Margaret?? > Dwelling: 95 High St > Census Place: Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203433 GRO Ref Volume 135 EnumDist 3 > Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John RIACH M 42 M Rothes, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Mason > Margt. RIACH M 31 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Wife > Occ: Masons Wife > Alexr. RIACH U 17 M Rothes, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Apprentice Plasterer > Janet Or Jessie RIACH 8 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > William RIACH 7 M Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Divina RIACH 5 F Elgin, Elgin, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar The IGI lists the following children of John Riach and Margaret Ross, married 2 December 1871 at Elgin: Jessie, born 19 September 1872 William, born 22 May 1874. This time, a look at the birth certificate of Divina (Davina?) Riach would sort this out. There are four other Margarets in the 1881 census in northern Scotland described as 'wife', born in Elgin and aged 29 to 32 (Margaret Geddes Dean would have been 30 on the day of the 1881 Census). Of these Margarets, the wife of James Dey is Margaret Sim; the wife of Andrew Grant is Margaret Nicol; and the wife of John Melville is presumably Margaret Rose; and Maggie Morrison was probably Maggie McLean Wright. In the south of Scotland there are eight more Elgin-born wives named Margaret of similar age. The wife of Archibald Hendry is Margaret James; the wife of Francis Logie is Margaret Cameron; the wife of John McLean is Margaret Steven; the wife of James Robertson is Margaret Ann Murray. I cannot identify the wives of Thomas Clarke, Mr Gilchrist, William Smith or Robert Young using only the IGI and 1881 Census, but as all but William Smith have children, a look at three birth certificates and one marriage certificate should sort this out. I assume that you have the 1881 census CDs and can look all these records up for yourself, but if not let me know and I'll send them to you. Are you sure that Margaret Geddes Dean survived to adulthood? Perhaps she emigrated? Best wishes Anne