Hi Kathy No luck this time. You may have to wait for Anne to return from the smoke where I believe she has been having fun and leaving us all to suffer. [Only joking, Anne. You deserve your break.] Given Anne's comments about Inner = Inver, i.e. where a small stream meets a bigger one, I have looked along the Burn of Allachie on the 1896 (1") and 2002 (2.5") maps in the possibility that "Inver-Allachie" might have become "Innerdalich". There is a cottage or croft called the Burnside of Allachie at NJ282415 and the burn joins the Burn of Aberlour near the Cottartown distillery. But no Innerdalich or variations on it. As Anne says, the introduction of the letter "d" is odd, but presumably quite possible. I can't get access to the National Library of Scotland [Google on "nls"] at the moment but you might like to try later. Look at the digital maps of Aberdeenshire & Banff which should show the 1832 map of Aberlour in the bottom left quadrant. Anne has a wealth local knowledge and should be able to help if anyone can. I'm in the south of England so not much use to anyone really. Sorry. Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net ----- Original Message ----- From: David & Kathy Wells To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray Ray and all you wonderful Moray researchers, I did find some of my other towns, with your help a couple of weeks ago, but I can't seem to find this one, even using the maps sites you all sent out. Robert Murray died 3-14-1733 at Innerdalich. Parish Register MF A Ab1 (Is this in Aberlour?) This information came off that Moray Liberindex website. But, I can't find what the 'MF' stands for, and the 'A'. If I understand correctly, the 'Ab1' appears to be Aberlour???? I think. So would Innerdalich be in Aberlour? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Kathy Wells. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray > Hi Murray > > I suggest you have a browse of the John Thomson maps on > http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/atlas.html > > There are two maps you might need to look at: > Northern Part of Aberdeen & Banff Shires > Nairn and Elgin > > The parish boundaries are marked in colour but the maps > are a little bit approximate [1 inch = 2 miles, ish]. > However, I've found them quite acceptable. > > If you want a hard copy, Caledonian Maps supply reprints of > Victorian 1896 Ordnance Survey maps with parish boundaries marked. > www.caledonianmaps.co.uk/ > I can't tell you which sheets you need but the website has a gazetteer. > > Maybe someone has access to them and can do look ups for you. > I only have the Banff & Aberdeenshire ones but I believe Gavin Bell > has put a large number in the new map library at the ANESFHS office. > > Having them mailed to NZ might push the price up a bit. > However, at £6 [25% off for more than 4] they are a bargain. > > Best wishes > > Ray Hennessy > Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net > > PS Message to Anne Burgess > I hope to be able to view LIBINDX soon but as I use Firefox ... > Remember Firefox uses International Standards but IE doesn't, > even though MS were involved in helping to set the standard! > > Microshaft at work, serving your best interests! > > Correction: for "your" read "their" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Murray Lynn > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:29 AM > Subject: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray > > > Now that I have found another generation of my family in Moray (thanks > to the marvellous LIBINDX database), I have been looking on the web for > a map showing the parish boundaries of where they lived but without any > luck. Does anyone know if one exists? > > Murray > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted > message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the > sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you > ;-) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. 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> Robert Murray died 3-14-1733 at Innerdalich. > Parish Register MF A > Ab1 (Is this in Aberlour?) > > This information came off that Moray Liberindex > website. But, I can't > find what the 'MF' stands for, and the 'A'. They are the Moray Heritage Centre's own references to the source material 'MF' means microfilm'; the 'A' tells me it is a parish register and the next bit tells me which one, though as it says Aberlour in the index I don't need this to find the right one. > If I understand correctly, > the 'Ab1' appears to be Aberlour???? Yes. > So would Innerdalich be in Aberlour? Very probably. At the moment I am in Edinburgh so I don't have access to my reference material, so I can't search for it. But places which begin with 'inner...' are usually 'inver...' places, that is, where a smaller water feature merges into a larger one. As this death was in 1733, the present village of (Charlestown of) Aberlour did not exist at the time of the burial. I am tempted to speculate that 'Innerdalich' might perhaps have been somewhere about the mouth of the Burn of Allachie, but please don't take that as a certain thing, not least because that makes no allowance for the 'd' in the middle (I would expect 'Inverallachie' if it were indeed the mouth of the Allachie Burn). Hope this helps Anne

Ian, Thanks for looking for James, unfortunately he is not mine. His parents are John Farquharson and Anne Stewart, my James parents were James Farquharson and Jane Grant, I think they were in Angus in the 41 census, only ones I've found that match in a few ways. My James was supposed to be in New Zealand by 1867, but cant prove it so far. If I dont find mine, I may claim this James as mine, I have a lot of his family as I thought he was mine and found his siblings etc. THEN, got the death certificate from New Zealand for my James and had to start again. Barbara -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005

AH, yes, those elusive Scots. They hide in the mists of time! But not to fear! a Blend is here to find all my elusive Scots come what may. I am ordering LDS tapes this week so am going to the source to see what I can find on the tapes. Good Luck with your family. Have you looked at the tapes from Auchindoir yet? I'll keep an eye out for Your Gordon as I go thru them. Pat

OK, one more question. Does anyone have a listing of those buried in Aberlour or Banff Shire? Most of my Murrays and other lines have the 'Ab1' reference to where they are buried. I wondered which Murrays might be buried there together? Is there a film, and/or website or any research tool I can look at that might determine other names buried closeby? Thanks, Kathy Wells, Hurst, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Kathy Wells" <rebeltrumpet@sbcglobal.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray > Ray and all you wonderful Moray researchers, > > I did find some of my other towns, with your help a couple of weeks ago, > but I can't seem to find this one, even using the maps sites you all sent > out. > > Robert Murray died 3-14-1733 at Innerdalich. Parish Register MF A > Ab1 (Is this in Aberlour?) > > This information came off that Moray Liberindex website. But, I can't > find what the 'MF' stands for, and the 'A'. If I understand > correctly, the 'Ab1' appears to be Aberlour???? I think. So would > Innerdalich be in Aberlour? > > Your help is appreciated. > Thanks, Kathy Wells. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:14 AM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray > > >> Hi Murray >> >> I suggest you have a browse of the John Thomson maps on >> http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/atlas.html >> >> There are two maps you might need to look at: >> Northern Part of Aberdeen & Banff Shires >> Nairn and Elgin >> >> The parish boundaries are marked in colour but the maps >> are a little bit approximate [1 inch = 2 miles, ish]. >> However, I've found them quite acceptable. >> >> If you want a hard copy, Caledonian Maps supply reprints of >> Victorian 1896 Ordnance Survey maps with parish boundaries marked. >> www.caledonianmaps.co.uk/ >> I can't tell you which sheets you need but the website has a gazetteer. >> >> Maybe someone has access to them and can do look ups for you. >> I only have the Banff & Aberdeenshire ones but I believe Gavin Bell >> has put a large number in the new map library at the ANESFHS office. >> >> Having them mailed to NZ might push the price up a bit. >> However, at £6 [25% off for more than 4] they are a bargain. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Ray Hennessy >> Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net >> >> PS Message to Anne Burgess >> I hope to be able to view LIBINDX soon but as I use Firefox ... >> Remember Firefox uses International Standards but IE doesn't, >> even though MS were involved in helping to set the standard! >> >> Microshaft at work, serving your best interests! >> >> Correction: for "your" read "their" >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Murray Lynn >> To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:29 AM >> Subject: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray >> >> >> Now that I have found another generation of my family in Moray (thanks >> to the marvellous LIBINDX database), I have been looking on the web for >> a map showing the parish boundaries of where they lived but without any >> luck. Does anyone know if one exists? >> >> Murray >> >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted >> message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the >> sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you >> ;-) >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be >> transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in >> transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email >> address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing >> list Admin. >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >

Ray and all you wonderful Moray researchers, I did find some of my other towns, with your help a couple of weeks ago, but I can't seem to find this one, even using the maps sites you all sent out. Robert Murray died 3-14-1733 at Innerdalich. Parish Register MF A Ab1 (Is this in Aberlour?) This information came off that Moray Liberindex website. But, I can't find what the 'MF' stands for, and the 'A'. If I understand correctly, the 'Ab1' appears to be Aberlour???? I think. So would Innerdalich be in Aberlour? Your help is appreciated. Thanks, Kathy Wells. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray > Hi Murray > > I suggest you have a browse of the John Thomson maps on > http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/atlas.html > > There are two maps you might need to look at: > Northern Part of Aberdeen & Banff Shires > Nairn and Elgin > > The parish boundaries are marked in colour but the maps > are a little bit approximate [1 inch = 2 miles, ish]. > However, I've found them quite acceptable. > > If you want a hard copy, Caledonian Maps supply reprints of > Victorian 1896 Ordnance Survey maps with parish boundaries marked. > www.caledonianmaps.co.uk/ > I can't tell you which sheets you need but the website has a gazetteer. > > Maybe someone has access to them and can do look ups for you. > I only have the Banff & Aberdeenshire ones but I believe Gavin Bell > has put a large number in the new map library at the ANESFHS office. > > Having them mailed to NZ might push the price up a bit. > However, at £6 [25% off for more than 4] they are a bargain. > > Best wishes > > Ray Hennessy > Forenames website: www.whatsinaname.net > > PS Message to Anne Burgess > I hope to be able to view LIBINDX soon but as I use Firefox ... > Remember Firefox uses International Standards but IE doesn't, > even though MS were involved in helping to set the standard! > > Microshaft at work, serving your best interests! > > Correction: for "your" read "their" > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Murray Lynn > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:29 AM > Subject: [MORAY] Parishes in Moray > > > Now that I have found another generation of my family in Moray (thanks > to the marvellous LIBINDX database), I have been looking on the web for > a map showing the parish boundaries of where they lived but without any > luck. Does anyone know if one exists? > > Murray > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > " Reply All " ........Please, please, please, when replying to a posted > message make sure that the reply is sent to the list and not just the > sender of the message. This is done by clicking " Reply All " Thank you > ;-) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hello Ray, sorry I misspelt my own grandmother's christian name it should have read Jessie. I apologise for any confusion this may have caused. My only excuse is that I'm relatively new to this business and didn't appreciate the signficance of the presence or absence of the "i". Ian Jackson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Jesse Raff McQuiban > Hi Ian > > This takes us back a bit. > > Do you have any other data on your grandmother Jesse Raff > McQuiban's spelling of her given name? > > There was quite a correspondence at the end of last year > about Jessie/Jesse and everyone [you know who you are!] > tried to tell me that Jesse is ONLY used for males. > > We've found a number of sources which show that > Jesse and Jessie can both be used for either sex, but > I'm always on the look out for more unusual spellings. > > TIA > > Ray Hennessy > www.whatsinaname.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ianjackson7726.freeserve.co.uk > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:51 AM > Subject: [MORAY] McQuiban Family - Dallas from late 1700's > > > I am researching my McQuiban ancestors. > > My maternal grandmother was Jesse Raff McQuiban > born Forres 1896. My GGGG Grandparents appear > to be William McQuiban (McQueban) and Elspet > Anderson who were living at Whitemoss, Dallas > when the 1811 Census was conducted. > > Is anyone else researching this particular McQuiban line? > > Ian Jackson > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Pat, Sorry, no extra James Duguids, but I did have a John Gordon who was in Auchindoir in 1841 census. Cant find him before 1841 either. I have plenty of James Farquharsons around that 1835-38, none of them seem to be mine. I will accept any John Gordons who were 20 in 1841 who have no family, actually I'll accept any old strays at the moment. All my cats are strays, so my family may as well be the same. I can find other peoples families, but not my men. Barbara -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005

Barbara sought James Farquharson, born 1840-41, Mortlach, Banff. There was only one person in the 1881 census Scottish Highlands CD and he was: Dwelling: Kirkton Census Place: Mortlach, Banff, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203441 GRO Ref Volume 162 EnumDist 4 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James FARQUHARSON U 43 M Mortlach, Banff, Scotland Rel: Head Occ Gen Clerk I bought the CD set from the LDS church and I find it my best buy ever. Ian

Hello Barbara, I know just how you feel! Anyone have parents for a James Duguid, last heard from at Auchindoir in 1780s? Father of Henry Duguid, born 1780, Auchindoir. I also will accept any and all suggestions as there are a dozen James Duguid (Do Ket for the uninitiated by the late Miss Anton of Banff)) in that right time frame. Back to the LDS tapes..... Best Regards, Pat Blend

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shand Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/BgC.2ACI/1274 Message Board Post: Anyone have information on the shand family in findhornbefore the second world war?

I have a job which takes up big amounts of time one week and then I have some time off the next week. If an email is sent to me in the big week, it may be a while before I can answer it. I try to answer even if its weeks since I got the email and from some of the replies I get to emails I've sent answers to, there seem to be many people in the same position as me. Anybody got a spare James Farquharson born around 1840?? he did exist in 1882 in New Zealand, BUT did he exist before that date?? This is my question, does anybody have the answer PLEASE!!!! I do have his parents but willing to drop them and give him new parents if it means I will have a James Farquharson, born 1840-41, Mortlach, Banff. Willing to take any cast offs from other families, tired of looking for my own! Thanks, Barbara -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 18/03/2005

Hi Ian This takes us back a bit. Do you have any other data on your grandmother Jesse Raff McQuiban's spelling of her given name? There was quite a correspondence at the end of last year about Jessie/Jesse and everyone [you know who you are!] tried to tell me that Jesse is ONLY used for males. We've found a number of sources which show that Jesse and Jessie can both be used for either sex, but I'm always on the look out for more unusual spellings. TIA Ray Hennessy www.whatsinaname.net ----- Original Message ----- From: ianjackson7726.freeserve.co.uk To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: [MORAY] McQuiban Family - Dallas from late 1700's I am researching my McQuiban ancestors. My maternal grandmother was Jesse Raff McQuiban born Forres 1896. My GGGG Grandparents appear to be William McQuiban (McQueban) and Elspet Anderson who were living at Whitemoss, Dallas when the 1811 Census was conducted. Is anyone else researching this particular McQuiban line? Ian Jackson

Many thanks for the info Jo-Ann. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: <jecroft@att.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] McQuiban Family - Dallas from late 1700's > Ian, > > You can find my research on this McQUIBAN line at > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jecroftv > > William and Elspet's son William married into my husband's CRUICKSHANK > line. > > -- > Jo-Ann Croft > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "ianjackson7726.freeserve.co.uk" <iancw@jackson7726.freeserve.co.uk> >> I am researching my McQuiban ancestors. My maternal grandmother was Jesse >> Raff >> McQuiban born Forres 1896. My GGGG Grandparents appear to be William >> McQuiban >> (McQueban) and Elspet Anderson who were living at Whitemoss, Dallas when >> the >> 1811 Census was conducted. >> >> Is anyone else researching this particular McQuiban line? >> >> Ian Jackson > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget that if you delete a message, you can always visit the > archives of this list http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MORAY/. The > archives are also worth looking at, whether you be a new or established > lister. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Dear all, I have a tentative identification for a photograph at http://www.flickr.com/photos/lanternlane/5129313/ that someone may be able to confirm and narrow down. I believe this is either Alexander or James YOUNG, a son of John Young (1786-1878) and Margaret BREMNER (1787-1870), both of Elgin. If anyone is researching the YOUNG family, there may be more connections to be found. Best, Karin Armstrong

Ian, You can find my research on this McQUIBAN line at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jecroftv William and Elspet's son William married into my husband's CRUICKSHANK line. -- Jo-Ann Croft -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "ianjackson7726.freeserve.co.uk" <iancw@jackson7726.freeserve.co.uk> > I am researching my McQuiban ancestors. My maternal grandmother was Jesse Raff > McQuiban born Forres 1896. My GGGG Grandparents appear to be William McQuiban > (McQueban) and Elspet Anderson who were living at Whitemoss, Dallas when the > 1811 Census was conducted. > > Is anyone else researching this particular McQuiban line? > > Ian Jackson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BgC.2ACI/1273 Message Board Post: First a link anyone searching in Moray will find helpful: http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp I am looking for anyone who can trace there line back to James Garden cartwright/tailor of Fochabers Moray. First wife was Elizabeth Simpson, known children James Garden b. Abt. 1810 Prob. Bellie, Moray, Scotland d. 14 Jan 1879 High Street Fochabers, Moray, Scotland, m. Jane Geddes 04 Jun 1835 Bellie, Moray, Scotland. Second wife was Mary Taylor b. 07 Apr 1806 d. 05 Jul 1880 m. 26 Jun 1824. Known children: George Garden b. Abt. 1826 d. 29 Dec 1909 Charles Garden b. 23 Sep 1828 d. 15 May 1891 William Garden b. 01 Feb 1830 d. 19 Mar 1901 Margaret Garden b. 14 Dec 1839 Peter Garden b. 02 Dec 1841 d. 28 Jan 1916 Jane Garden b. 26 Mar 1844 Robert Garden b. 13 Apr 1847 If you have information or need information please contact me. Regards, Mal

In my grandmother Helen Forsyth's lineage I have John McConnachie married Jean McWilliam in Keith 1787 and their daughter Margaret McConnachie born Keith 1788 died Keith 1867.Harry Montgomery,Agincourt,Ontario.

I am researching my McQuiban ancestors. My maternal grandmother was Jesse Raff McQuiban born Forres 1896. My GGGG Grandparents appear to be William McQuiban (McQueban) and Elspet Anderson who were living at Whitemoss, Dallas when the 1811 Census was conducted. Is anyone else researching this particular McQuiban line? Ian Jackson

Thank you to all who responded to my posting "Why bother to collect a photograph". My own opinion is that in our busy lives we put things aside and on rediscovering them later are too embarrassed to make contact. I would encourage all who find themselves in that position to still follow through. Our hobby does have a timeless element to it but people do drop out and then the chance to link in to their hard won research may be permanently lost. Ian Researching McCONACHIE of Mortlach, Keith and Ordiquhill and McBEAN/McBAIN of Moy and Dalarossie, Rathven, Deskford and Fordyce