Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife Janet Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in Sluggan. I believe this place, in the early 1800’s was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet ). Does anyone know exactly where it is located? William in Montreal

Hope all listers are in good health. Looking for parents and siblings of Janet MACKINTOSH born abt. 1787 and died abt. 1829. Janet married James CALDER 18 Dec 1807 Nairn. If you go by the Scottish naming pattern, her parents could have been Isabel and James MACKINTOSH but we have her husband's parents as Isabel LAMB and William CALDER. MACKINTOSH names appearing as witnesses to their children's christenings: Janet MACKINTOSH witness at the chr. of Janet CALDER b. 16 Nov 1810, Nairn (Janet was the second female child, Isabel was first). James MACKINTOSH witness at the chr. of Catherine CALDER b. 26 Jul 1816, Nairn (Catherine was the third female child) James MACKINTOSH witness at the chr. of Anne CALDER b. 8 Mar 1824, Nairn Alexander Gordon MACKINTOSH witness at the chr. of Alexanderina Gordon CALDER b. 29 Jun 1828. (I do not think that he was related as he was an Esquire and we were poor farmers!). From researching the internet, I ran across information that brothers married sisters. Alexander CALDER married Isabel MACKINTOSH James CALDER married Janet MACKINTOSH It is possible that Isabel and Janet were sisters but the home parish of James CALDER points to Nairn so far. In my limited knowledge of Scotland's traditions, the banns were read first in the bride's parish and then in the grooms. On the marriage of Alexander and Isabel, they were first recorded in Nairn and then in Inverness making Alexander from Inverness if I understand that correctly. And now I am rattling.................anyone searching for Janet MACKINTOSH in this timeframe born in Nairn, would very much appreciate hearing from you. Many thanks, Sherry Williamson Canton, Michigan

Scott - I'll see what the Death Indexes show for CAMPBELL in 1855, they were the very best you could hope for. Meanwhile, could you send me some of the Poor Relief information for Ann WINK ? That's a name I am following diligently in Morayshire as a Jessie WINK married an Alexander CRUICKSHANK in Urquhart, 1845. Luckily there aren't too many WINKs to follow, but I do take note of those I can get assistance with. Thanks for any help with this line ! MegG in Oklahoma, USA On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:18:36 +1200, original message : <snip> > Alexander (senior's) death could not be found on Scotlandspeople >A poor relief application by Ann Wink would indicate that he may >have died in the 1840s. (The Moray Index is a beauty). <snip> >> Scott Matthews, (Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia)

HURRAH ! HURRAH ! Ray. (sorry,couldn't resist ) > > From: "Scott Matthews" <scottmm@squirrel.com.au> > Date: 2005/04/25 Mon PM 12:39:36 GMT+12:00 > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MORAY] The Campbell are (not) (forth)coming > > Good morning everybody, > > Ann Matthew, one of my Matthew's family in Elgin, married a John Campbell, > also in Elgin, on 25 May 1839. John died, aged 28, in Elgin on 7 April > 1847. The couple's children were named James, John, Ann, Robert Alexander, > and William Ferguson and were born in Elgin, Forres and Nairn. I am > experiencing a degree of difficulty in finding John's parents. > > A brother, Alexander Campbell, Shoemaker, definitely had two sons. John , > born 1838, who became a Miller and emigrated to Queensland, Australia about > 1870 and Alexander, a self taught teacher, who taught at a school in Lady > Lane and later at an Industrial School at Kelso. Alexander (senior's) death > could not be found on Scotlandspeople A poor relief application by Ann Wink > would indicate that he may have died in the 1840s. (The Moray Index is a > beauty). Baptism records indicate that other siblings (?) with the given > names of James, Catharine, Ann and Robert could have existed during the > 1840s. > > If possible could some one assist me to pinpoint John Campbell's parents > around 1800 - 1825 in Elgin or give me some sort of overview of the Campbell > families in Elgin (?) at the time. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Regards > > Scott Matthews > (Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia) > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hello Scott: Could it be a tee-name. Tee-names are bestowed on families with common names to distinguish the different families. The following article is an excellent description of why they were used and how they were carried on in the family. http://ca.geocities.com/taylorhomeca/teenames.html Regards, Louise **************************************************************************** *************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Scott Matthews [mailto:scottmm@squirrel.com.au] Sent: April 24, 2005 8:57 PM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MORAY] Mort; Gardener. Good morning everyone, In searching an Elgin Film (990799) recently, I becames just a little confused with the use of the word "Mort". The time span was about the 1730s and the word was cosistently used after the father's name in baptism records. As it was used more than once for the sames father, it could not have referred to him being dead. It was like a occupation or address. It has intrigued me. My forbears, in Moray, from about 1750 and well into the 1800s were regularily listed as Gardeners. I would be interested in knowing what the full scope of such an occupation would have been in those times in Moray. Regards Scott Matthews (Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia) ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing list Admin. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DFraser,Davidson,Callum,Hay,Cruickshank,Melvin,James Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1215.3 Message Board Post: Hi Carol, I would be interested in helping with the transcripion of the Elgin OPRs. I have been researching OPRs in Moray for last 2 years.Ex teacher so okay at the deciphering illegible hand writing. Come from the Elgin area ( but living in Malaysia at present) so know the geography and place names, working part time so have time available and desparately awaiting the Freecen and OPR pages to be done so I can access them online. So if I can be of help , let me know. Karen Donald

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fraser,Davidson,Cruickshank,Hay,Farquhar,Melvin,James,Callum,Cook,Campbell,King,Grant,Cumming ,Millar,Donaldson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1233.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi I dont' have these but I do have a Hay and Davidson connection in the Elgin area ( Moray). Where do your Hays fit in? Karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/1233.1 Message Board Post: Have you got this info? I can expand...contact rmckerron@cogeco.ca Family Group Report - 25 Apr 2005 ———————————————————————————————————————— Husband: Alexander (2) McKerron ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————— Wife: Catherine Hay ———————————————————————————————————————— Other Spouses ? Blackhall. ? ? ———————————————————————————————————————— Children... ———————————————————————————————————————— 1. M Child: James G. (Hay) McKerron (Illegitimate) Birth: 9 Oct 1854 Place: Knockando, Morayshire, Scotland Christen: 19 Nov 1854 Place: Knockando, Morayshire, Scotland Death: 1928 Place: Iowa Burial: Place: Stanwood cemetery, Fremont, Iowa Residence: He Appears With The HAY Family In The 1861 Knockando Census Spouse: Ellen D. Leiper Marriage: 11 Sep 1884 Place: Tipton, Cedar County, Iowa Husband’s Notes... ———————————————————————————————————————— Religion: Church of Scotland Wife’s Notes... ———————————————————————————————————————— Notes: Catherine stayed living in the Knockando area until 1871, and was in Aberdeen in 1881 census. She had 3 possibly 5 illegitimate children including James McKerron and John Blackhall. Religion: Church of Scotland Last Modified: 8 Dec 2004

Good morning everyone, In searching an Elgin Film (990799) recently, I becames just a little confused with the use of the word "Mort". The time span was about the 1730s and the word was cosistently used after the father's name in baptism records. As it was used more than once for the sames father, it could not have referred to him being dead. It was like a occupation or address. It has intrigued me. My forbears, in Moray, from about 1750 and well into the 1800s were regularily listed as Gardeners. I would be interested in knowing what the full scope of such an occupation would have been in those times in Moray. Regards Scott Matthews (Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia)

Good morning everybody, Ann Matthew, one of my Matthew's family in Elgin, married a John Campbell, also in Elgin, on 25 May 1839. John died, aged 28, in Elgin on 7 April 1847. The couple's children were named James, John, Ann, Robert Alexander, and William Ferguson and were born in Elgin, Forres and Nairn. I am experiencing a degree of difficulty in finding John's parents. A brother, Alexander Campbell, Shoemaker, definitely had two sons. John , born 1838, who became a Miller and emigrated to Queensland, Australia about 1870 and Alexander, a self taught teacher, who taught at a school in Lady Lane and later at an Industrial School at Kelso. Alexander (senior's) death could not be found on Scotlandspeople A poor relief application by Ann Wink would indicate that he may have died in the 1840s. (The Moray Index is a beauty). Baptism records indicate that other siblings (?) with the given names of James, Catharine, Ann and Robert could have existed during the 1840s. If possible could some one assist me to pinpoint John Campbell's parents around 1800 - 1825 in Elgin or give me some sort of overview of the Campbell families in Elgin (?) at the time. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Regards Scott Matthews (Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia)

Wondered if anyone has Elizabeth Grant ? She married John Younie in Dallas, Moray on 15 February 1780 Any information gratefully received. Marie, New Zealand

Hello Gary: My research re: Peterkin is just in the beginning stages. From what I have thus far the only William I have come across would be too young. I know there are others researching Peterkin/Grant from going through the archives but so far no William. I hesitate to take anything at face value until I have gone through the registers. I'm afraid I'm one of those people who has to see the document before I'm satisfied. You mentioned the Navy. Have you tried to follow up on that lead? I'm sure there are listers who would know where you should look for naval information and ships lists. I seem to recall someone mentioning that Canada has some very good records re: immigration. The only thing I know for certain is that Ann Peterkin did marry David Morrison in Kirriemuir. And one of their sons, David Peterkin Morrison married in Suffolk and eventually moved his family to the U.S. shortly after the great Chicago fire. I know that Ann was his mother because I have DP Morrison's death certificate (Illinois). Hopefully once I have the tapes from Kirriemuir and Dyke, Moray I will come across more information. If I find a likely William Peterkin I will certainly contact you. Best regards, Adrienne

Hi...I am researching Peterkin in Canada. My earliest Peterkin is William who, I believe, was born in Scotland late 18th century. I have been told that he was pressed into the Navy and when released emigrated to Canada with his wife and daughter. The family settled in Peterborough, Ontario around 1850. From the about 1850 on I have been able to trace the family in Canada but before that date I have had very little success. I wonder if your Peterkins are connected to mine? Gary in Ajax, Ontario, Canada

Hello Everyone: My name is Adrienne Inman and I live in Illinois. My husband's great grandfather was David PETERKIN MORRISON, born in Kirriemuir Aug. 6, 1828. DP Morrison's parents were David MORRISON and Ann PETERKIN. They were married in Kirriemuir on November 15, 1828. Ann was born March 19, 1803 Dyke, Moray. Her parents were James PETERKIN and Rachel GRANT. Her brothers were John, James and Alexander. One sister named Jean. The Peterkin name was used as a middle name by Ann's children. If anyone is researching PETERKIN I would love to hear from you. I do have a question. Normally when a marriage takes place it is in the bride's village/town. I was just wondering under what circumstances the marriage would take place in the groom's place of birth unless Ann's family had moved to Kirriemuir, or she was working there, or because they'd already had a child and married several months later. David Morrison was a sawyer so I suppose he could have met her in his travels. Other than my husband's great grandfather being born in Kirriemuir, the rest of her children were born in Dunnichen. If anyone has any suggestions, comments, ideas they would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

Thanks for your guidance Anne. I have extensively researched their daughter Barbara whose birth was not recorded in the IGI and also their son Alexander. My next step is definitely to look up James HENRY's army record. Lorna Wallace Glasgow

Thanks Ray - it's not what I wanted to hear - doesn''t fit with everything else. We've got a real tangle going on at this stage in two families. Identical husband and wife names of the same time and area. And without hard birth certificates, or marriage certificates that only mention the bride and groom!!!!!!!! Do you have any idea where Elizabeth Macdonald was born or to whom - she is something of an enigma. Cheers Ross Sue and Ross Miller Kotuku Media Ltd 64 4 233 1842 0274 510 339 - Sue 027 246 7682 - Ross 112 Pope Street, Camborne, Wellington

G'day Cobbers, Have some information on my McLEAN ancestry on my homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS Below is part of an email from a third cousin of mine, recently "discovered", which relates to the GRANT surname: "Yes this Bella (McLEAN) is the one we are interested in. She is the daughter of Charles McLean and Elspet Dean hence my mother's aunt. She married David Grant and they had one daughter also called Bella. It was she who went to Australia about 1949ish but she was married by then and as yet I have not found her married name. A couple of years later her parents Bella and David followed her out and remained there where they presumably died. I have no idea where they settled but I believe most emigrants then went to Melbourne and Sydney. Bella Grant may still be alive and would be about 84 yrs old now. No 34 Royston Mains Crescent Edinburgh, where Elspet Dean died was the home of Charles McLean and Marjory Wilson {my mothers parents} and Elspet Dean lived with them for the last 3 years of her life. Previously to this she lived at 10 Caledonian Crescent Edinburgh. Royston Mains Crescent was also where my parents lived when I was born so was my first home." Is anybody able to assist me with the surname of Bella GRANT's husband. I am trying to trace this family in Australia but need Bella's married name. Look forward to hearing from any McLEAN relatives. Regards Greg Baldwin Ferntree Gully, Victoria, Australia Homepage: http://member.melbpc.org.au/~kennethb/ Email: kennethb@melbpc.org.au Helen's Stolen Generation Radio Program: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm All incoming & outgoing files & emails checked by VET Anti-Virus software. AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 KFHS 7736 Researching Surnames: BIRCH - Yorkshire, Eng> Qld, AUS BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CAMERON - Black Isle, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen SCT DEAN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland GRANT - Rhynie, Aberdeen, SCT INGLIS - Banff/Moray, SCT LAURANCE - Banff, SCT LUMSDEN - Banff, SCT>New Zealand MASSON - Ross Shire>Ayrshire, SCT MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT MELVIN - Elgin, Elgin, Scotland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, AUS McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, AUS McKENZIE - Banff/Moray, SCT McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, SCT>Qld, AUS McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, SCT>Qld, AUS PROCTOR - Elgin, Moray, SCT RAFFAN - Banff, SCT ROBERTSON - Ross & Cromarty, SCT SIMPSON - Banff/Moray, SCT SMITH - SCT STUART - Moray, SCT SUTHERLAND - Moray, SCT WILSON - Ayr, SCT>New Zealand http://www.abc.net.au/rn/history/hindsight/default.htm

Hi - hoping someone has MIs or OPRs of Mortlach. Looking for death of George Duff (born 31/8/1827), son of Peter Duff of Wester Buchromb and Elizabeth MacDonald. He may be in the Duff family plot in Mortlach kirk Married to Jane Shand, apparently from Keith area. She also seems to have died young. Both deaths would have been after 1850. Chers Ross Sue and Ross Miller Kotuku Media Ltd 64 4 233 1842 0274 510 339 - Sue 027 246 7682 - Ross 112 Pope Street, Camborne, Wellington