Hi Kathy While there is obviously some sort of entry for this death it is liable to brief to say the least and may even be a one line 'note' of the burial in the churchyard. What the LIBINDX is telling you is that the entry appears on a Microfiche/film of the Aberlour OPR and you would need to look at the OPR to be sure what is there. Ian A C Scott

Thank you all for the information. I think I will pass on getting a copy then since it most likely won't be helpful in determining if he might be the father of my John Murray. I appreciate all the helpful information. Thanks, Kathy Wells. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Burgess" <anne.listmail@btinternet.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Sluggan >> Can someone tell me how to go about getting a copy of the following death >> record? Where exactly do I write? I found this on the libindx >> site. > There is a link on the LIBINDX site to the online shop. > > Alternatively, you could go to your local LDS Family History Centre (list > of these on www.familysearch.org) and arrange to borrow a copy of the > Aberlour Parish Register. This way you can read through the whole thing > and extract for yourself all entries which might be of interest to you. > This would be cheaper than getting them all separately from Moray Heritage > Centre. > > Note that the LDS Church reference for this parish register will not be MF > A Ab1 - this is the Moray Heritage Centre's internal reference system. > >> Will I get any other information other than what was listed on that >> reference on that site? > Highly unlikely IMO. If there had been, for example, the name of a wife or > child(ren), or an age at death, this would have been in the LIBINDX entry. > There would also have been a mention of any gravestone, so unless there is > one which has got buried and was not visible in 1978 when the graveyards > were surveyed, there isn't one. (If I had thought that there was any > chance of there being more information in the original entry I would have > looked it up for you the last time you posted this query.) > > Anne > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I've done those searches as well and drawn a blank. Helen Innes married my ggg grandfather John Hay in Knockando in 1831. Another relative had some paid research done which gave her parents as John Innes and Sarah Welsted. According to Scotlands People website, her death certificate shows her parents as John Innes and Sarah Neilsted - the writing can be read either way. We are guessing her age by census records and her death certificate, which remained fairly regular over the years and lists her birthplace as Glenlivet. I can find no trace of her mother - I didn't think Sarah was really such a Scottish name and wondered if it was more English. I've tried every variation I can on her maiden name and drawn a blank. Her father is difficult because I have no idea of his age at death (I'm only guessing from when we believe Helen was born and making assumptions) and this also assumes that Helen's death certificate is accurate in him being alive. Have you seen the number of John Innes' in such a wide search! I would believe that they would have been Church of Scotland because we only know of one RC who married into the family many years later. Kathryn from Melbourne, Australia -----Original Message----- From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, 29 April 2005 5:31 AM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MORAY] Sluggan I took a quick look through the IGI as well as looking in the FamilySearch site and could not find a link. I did have a quick look for a Helen Innes with a + or - 5 and came up with only two helen's born during that time span having a father name John Innes. Could you give me all or any of the info you have on this Helen. Out of curiosity, which denomination did this family belong to? If it was RC then we will have a lot of trouble getting the facts as these records are not available on line. William in montreal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogers, Kathryn" <Kathryn.Rogers@originenergy.com.au> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: RE: [MORAY] Sluggan > William, > > My Innes ancestor was born in Glenlivet in about 1810 - Helen Innes. > We believe her parents were John Innes and Sarah Welsted or Neilsted > however we keep hitting a brick wall trying to find any info on them. > We also believe that her father John was still alive when Helen died > in the early 1860's. > > Have you come across any of these names before in your research? > > Cheers, > > Kathryn in Melbourne, Australia. > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:09 AM > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan > > > Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage > extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. > > My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife > Janet Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born > in Sluggan. > > I believe this place, in the early 1800's was in Inveravon, ( > Glenlivet ). Does anyone know exactly where it is located? > > William in Montreal > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual > email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the > mailing list Admin. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget that if you delete a message, you can always visit the > archives of this list http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MORAY/. The > archives are also worth looking at, whether you be a new or established > lister. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New > content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

> Can someone tell me how to go about getting a copy of the following death > record? Where exactly do I write? I found this on the libindx site. There is a link on the LIBINDX site to the online shop. Alternatively, you could go to your local LDS Family History Centre (list of these on www.familysearch.org) and arrange to borrow a copy of the Aberlour Parish Register. This way you can read through the whole thing and extract for yourself all entries which might be of interest to you. This would be cheaper than getting them all separately from Moray Heritage Centre. Note that the LDS Church reference for this parish register will not be MF A Ab1 - this is the Moray Heritage Centre's internal reference system. > Will I get any other information other than what was listed on that > reference on that site? Highly unlikely IMO. If there had been, for example, the name of a wife or child(ren), or an age at death, this would have been in the LIBINDX entry. There would also have been a mention of any gravestone, so unless there is one which has got buried and was not visible in 1978 when the graveyards were surveyed, there isn't one. (If I had thought that there was any chance of there being more information in the original entry I would have looked it up for you the last time you posted this query.) Anne

I had a look at the 1841 online census for a Sarah Innes, and I found this one: Piece: SCT1841/160 Place: Kirkmichael-Banffshire Enumeration District: 8 Civil Parish: Kirkmichael Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Tomintoul Folio: 8 Page: 7 Address: Tomintoul East Side Of Village Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks INNES George M 30 Shoemaker Banffshire INNES Ann F 25 Outside Census County (1841) INNES Christian F 5 Banffshire Page: 8/8 INNES William M 3 Outside Census County (1841) INNES James M 2 Banffshire INNES Sarah F 3m Banffshire GRANT Jannet F 20 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841) This Sarah is the daughter of George Innes and Ann Grant, and was born on 13 February 1841 in Kirkmichael, Banffshire. The name Sarah is very uncommon in this area, so I surmise that George may be a brother of your Helen. It might be worth trying for a death of George Innes, born 1805-1811, to see if he is indeed Sarah Welsted/Neilsted's son. It may help with the search for the death of father John, and with deciphering Sarah's surname. There is juts one John Innes old enough to be Helen's father and living in Kirkmichael or Inveravon without a wife or family: Piece: SCT1841/160 Place: Kirkmichael-Banffshire Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Kirkmichael Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 1 Page: 1 Address: Tomachlaggan Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks INNES John M 55 Blacksmith Banffshire HEPBURN James M 35 Mason Banffshire HEPBURN William M 35 Mason Banffshire Was your Helen's father a blacksmith? If so I think this is likely to be the one you are after. Given that ages in the 1841 census were (supposed to be) rounded down to the nearest 5 years, he could have been born any time between about 1780 and 1785 - but if, as you say, he was still living in the 1860s, the 1851 census should give his exact date. Hope this helps Anne

> My Innes ancestor was born in Glenlivet in about 1810 - Helen > Innes. We > believe her parents were John Innes and Sarah Welsted or > Neilsted > however we keep hitting a brick wall trying to find any info on them. > We also believe that her father John was still alive when Helen died > in > the early 1860's. Was her father still in Scotland? If so, and he died there, you should be able to find his death certificate at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - this will confirm his wife's name and tell you his age and the names of his parents. HTH Anne

> Out of curiosity, which denomination did this family belong to? If it was > RC then we will have a lot of trouble getting the facts as these records > are not available on line. > William in montreal. Well, I checked LIBINDX and there is no mention of a Helen Innes about that age being baptised in the RC records, and there is no mention of a Sarah Innes nee Neilsted or similar. So I think you can take it that she isn't in the Inveravon RC records, as these have been indexed in LIBINDX. Anne

Kathy, To get any copies order from the Moray Council shop: http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp Click on the menu option online shop, and then Request a Quote. Holly East Bangor, PA, US > -----Original Message----- > From: David & Kathy Wells [mailto:rebeltrumpet@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:27 PM > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Sluggan > > Can someone tell me how to go about getting a copy of the following death > record? Where exactly do I write? I found this on the libindx site. > Will I get any other information other than what was listed on that > reference on that site? Thanks, Kathy Wells. > > > Ref. # NM 146498 Robert Murray, date of death 14 MAR 1733, Innerdalich > in > Aberlour, Parish Register reference MF A Ab1. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Innes" <w.innes@sympatico.ca> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Sluggan > > > >I took a quick look through the IGI as well as looking in the > FamilySearch > >site and could not find a link. I did have a quick look for a Helen Innes > >with a + or - 5 and came up with only two helen's born during that time > >span having a father name John Innes. > > > > Could you give me all or any of the info you have on this Helen. > > > > Out of curiosity, which denomination did this family belong to? If it > was > > RC then we will have a lot of trouble getting the facts as these records > > are not available on line. > > > > William in montreal. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rogers, Kathryn" <Kathryn.Rogers@originenergy.com.au> > > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:19 PM > > Subject: RE: [MORAY] Sluggan > > > > > >> William, > >> > >> My Innes ancestor was born in Glenlivet in about 1810 - Helen Innes. > We > >> believe her parents were John Innes and Sarah Welsted or Neilsted > >> however we keep hitting a brick wall trying to find any info on them. > >> We also believe that her father John was still alive when Helen died in > >> the early 1860's. > >> > >> Have you come across any of these names before in your research? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Kathryn in Melbourne, Australia. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] > >> Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:09 AM > >> To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan > >> > >> > >> Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage > >> extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. > >> > >> My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife > >> Janet > >> Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in > >> Sluggan. > >> > >> I believe this place, in the early 1800's was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet > >> ). > >> Does anyone know exactly where it is located? > >> > >> William in Montreal > >> > >> > >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > >> MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > >> transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > >> transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual > email > >> address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the > mailing > >> list Admin. > >> > >> ============================== > >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > >> Don't forget that if you delete a message, you can always visit the > >> archives of this list http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MORAY/. > The > >> archives are also worth looking at, whether you be a new or established > >> lister. > >> > >> ============================== > >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > >> New content added every business day. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns > about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or > join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Can someone tell me how to go about getting a copy of the following death record? Where exactly do I write? I found this on the libindx site. Will I get any other information other than what was listed on that reference on that site? Thanks, Kathy Wells. Ref. # NM 146498 Robert Murray, date of death 14 MAR 1733, Innerdalich in Aberlour, Parish Register reference MF A Ab1. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Innes" <w.innes@sympatico.ca> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Sluggan >I took a quick look through the IGI as well as looking in the FamilySearch >site and could not find a link. I did have a quick look for a Helen Innes >with a + or - 5 and came up with only two helen's born during that time >span having a father name John Innes. > > Could you give me all or any of the info you have on this Helen. > > Out of curiosity, which denomination did this family belong to? If it was > RC then we will have a lot of trouble getting the facts as these records > are not available on line. > > William in montreal. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rogers, Kathryn" <Kathryn.Rogers@originenergy.com.au> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:19 PM > Subject: RE: [MORAY] Sluggan > > >> William, >> >> My Innes ancestor was born in Glenlivet in about 1810 - Helen Innes. We >> believe her parents were John Innes and Sarah Welsted or Neilsted >> however we keep hitting a brick wall trying to find any info on them. >> We also believe that her father John was still alive when Helen died in >> the early 1860's. >> >> Have you come across any of these names before in your research? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kathryn in Melbourne, Australia. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] >> Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:09 AM >> To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan >> >> >> Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage >> extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. >> >> My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife >> Janet >> Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in >> Sluggan. >> >> I believe this place, in the early 1800's was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet >> ). >> Does anyone know exactly where it is located? >> >> William in Montreal >> >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be >> transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in >> transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email >> address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing >> list Admin. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget that if you delete a message, you can always visit the >> archives of this list http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MORAY/. The >> archives are also worth looking at, whether you be a new or established >> lister. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

> I am of the opinion that Sluggan has been transposed as Claggan. > George > in Ottawa Interesting that you think that, George, because the same thought has crossed my mind. I had a look in Matheson's "Place Names of Elginshire" but although he includes Duthil, he does not list Sluggan. He does consider that Slack may be derived from Gaelic 'slug', meaning a throat, or a narrow place or gorge. Gaelic 'clag' means a bell, or a crashing noise. However I cannot say whether this has anything to do with the place name Claggan - which also occurs in Lochaber. How one would get from 'slug' to 'clag' I am unsure. Anne

I took a quick look through the IGI as well as looking in the FamilySearch site and could not find a link. I did have a quick look for a Helen Innes with a + or - 5 and came up with only two helen's born during that time span having a father name John Innes. Could you give me all or any of the info you have on this Helen. Out of curiosity, which denomination did this family belong to? If it was RC then we will have a lot of trouble getting the facts as these records are not available on line. William in montreal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogers, Kathryn" <Kathryn.Rogers@originenergy.com.au> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: RE: [MORAY] Sluggan > William, > > My Innes ancestor was born in Glenlivet in about 1810 - Helen Innes. We > believe her parents were John Innes and Sarah Welsted or Neilsted > however we keep hitting a brick wall trying to find any info on them. > We also believe that her father John was still alive when Helen died in > the early 1860's. > > Have you come across any of these names before in your research? > > Cheers, > > Kathryn in Melbourne, Australia. > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:09 AM > To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan > > > Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage > extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. > > My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife > Janet > Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in > Sluggan. > > I believe this place, in the early 1800's was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet > ). > Does anyone know exactly where it is located? > > William in Montreal > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget that if you delete a message, you can always visit the > archives of this list http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/MORAY/. The > archives are also worth looking at, whether you be a new or established > lister. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Sorry for the intrusion but I had to send this. Sluggen is mentioned under Duthil,Elginshire in this write-up. The Statistical Accounts of Scotland displaying volume 13 page 134 of the Accounts of Scotland. Account of 1845 Elginshire Duthil "Means of Communication - No Highland district is better accommodated with means of communication. The great Highland road between Perth and Inverness passes through the parish for fifteen miles. In the hamlet at Carr bridge, a post-office was established in July 1836. From Carr Bridge, a road branches off to Grantown, on which a mail-gig runs daily. This road is joined at Carr Bridge, near the confluence of the Spey and Dulnan, by another road that passes through the southern district of the parish. In the parish, there are two bridges over the Dulnan. The one at SLUGGAN, was built soon after 1745, on the line of road formed under the superintendence of General Wade. Since the desolating flood of 1829, it is scarcely passable. The other is at the hamlet ......." Regards, L. Ross **************************************************************************** ****************************************** -----Original Message----- From: Anne Burgess [mailto:anne.burgess@btinternet.com] Sent: April 28, 2005 11:58 AM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MORAY] Sluggan > I am of the opinion that Sluggan has been transposed as Claggan. > George > in Ottawa Interesting that you think that, George, because the same thought has crossed my mind. I had a look in Matheson's "Place Names of Elginshire" but although he includes Duthil, he does not list Sluggan. He does consider that Slack may be derived from Gaelic 'slug', meaning a throat, or a narrow place or gorge. Gaelic 'clag' means a bell, or a crashing noise. However I cannot say whether this has anything to do with the place name Claggan - which also occurs in Lochaber. How one would get from 'slug' to 'clag' I am unsure. Anne ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

This is to treebearbear (no name on query). I am tracing Stewarts from that general area - Buckie, Rathven, Lossiemouth, Drainie All your names are those of my Stewart ancestors - could we have a connection? Please contact me (will be away May 5 - 11) Jean Stewart Brooks, Alberta, Canada

Seeking OPR or Birth Records for: Niel Macpherson, born c1713, likely in Parish of Moy, parents not known, died 1795 and buried in Cawdor Churchyard James Macpherson, born 12 January 1745 @ Cawdor, son of Niel Macpherson and Jean MacAndrew Ewan Macpherson, born 16 October 1794 @ Ardersier, son of James Macpherson (above) and Margaret Loggie Ewen Macpherson, born 19 July 1834 @ Kurunagalla, or Trincomalee, Ceylon, son of Captain Ewen Macpherson (78th Regiment above) and Catherine Gunn Seeking OPR or Marriage Records/Banns for: Niel Macpherson and Jean MacAndrew, married 10 November 1741 @ Ardclach James Macpherson and Margaret Loggie, married 18 August 1777 @ Stackpole Elidor PEM Wales Ewen Macpherson and Catherine Gunn, married 30 August 1827, @ St Paul’s CofE Colombo, Ceylon Niel Macpherson was a tacksman, thought firstly at Wester Dulcie then at Tirfogrean, the Streens (River Findhorn), Cawdor Estates James Macpherson was Factor to Lord Calder (Cawdor) and lived the latter part of his life at Ardersier Ewan Macpherson was commissioned into the 78th Regt (Ross Shire Buffs) at Fort George and served in Ceylon from approx 1826 to 1840/41 Ewen Macpherson (son of Ewan above) came to Australia with his parents in 1842 and married Lilla Stacy in Newcastle (Aust) in 1856. Regards John L Macpherson (Mittagong Australia)

William, My Innes ancestor was born in Glenlivet in about 1810 - Helen Innes. We believe her parents were John Innes and Sarah Welsted or Neilsted however we keep hitting a brick wall trying to find any info on them. We also believe that her father John was still alive when Helen died in the early 1860's. Have you come across any of these names before in your research? Cheers, Kathryn in Melbourne, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:09 AM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife Janet Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in Sluggan. I believe this place, in the early 1800's was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet ). Does anyone know exactly where it is located? William in Montreal ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing list Admin. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

William wrote: > Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage > extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. You surmised a location in Inveravon (although I kind find it on no map, ancient or modern, nor in Census enumerations). Louise has offered you one in Inverness-shire, and I can contribute a "Slogan" in the Banffshire parish of Botriphnie, at map ref NJ389417. My Gaelic is extremely rudimentary, but I suspect that "Sluggan/Sloggan" may be part of the same name-family as "Sliochd" (on the A9 south of Inverness) and "Slug" (south of Aberdeen). Those both describe a high pass between hills, so there is a good chance of finding more such in the Highlands. Gavin Bell

There is indeed a Sluggan near Carr Bridge, in the parish of Duthil, county of Inverness. However it is not the one from which William's ancestors came. The latter is in Glenlivet in the parish of Inveravon, county of Banff, and it is not listed on the map used by Streetmap. It is never safe to assume that a place on a map is the only place by that name. Just to quote a few, try looking on Streetmap for Calgary, Dallas, Moscow or Houston! Another one which causes confusion is Kirkmichael. There are no less than four parishes of this name in Scotland (one each in Banffshire, Perthshire, Ayrshire and Dumfries-shire). At the risk of being a bore (because I have said this before), if you are looking for a place in Scotland, it is essential to say where you got the information, and in particular which county and/or which parish you think it is in. Anne > Sluggan is on this map. I believe to be Inverness-Shire. > http://uke.multimap.com/gb/A21851.htm > To the left of Carrbridge .. about the middle of the map. > Louise Ross > > Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and > > marriage > > extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. > > I believe this place, in the early 1800’s was in Inveravon, > > ( Glenlivet ). > > Does anyone know exactly where it is located? > > William Innes

William, Your Innes/Cameron ancestors all originated in the Tomnavoulin -Knockandhu area of Glenlivet and appear to have resided there in the late 18th and 19th c. I am not sure where you obtained the information re the SLUGGAN, however, my experience of reviewing RC & CoS OPR records for that particuular period, I am of the opinion that Sluggan has been transposed as Claggan. There are two crofts described as Easter Claggan & Wester Claggan which are located not too far from where other members of the Innes family resided. HTH George in Ottawa ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >From: "William Innes" <w.innes@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:08:41 -0400 > >Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage >extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. > >My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife >Janet Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in >Sluggan. > >I believe this place, in the early 1800’s was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet ). >Does anyone know exactly where it is located? > >William in Montreal > > >==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be >transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in >transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email >address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing >list Admin. > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Moray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BgC.2ACI/1284 Message Board Post: Would appreciate alittle help....looking for info on my 5th grandpa.....He was Alexander Stewart, born 1741, Drainie Par, Moray, Scotland. He had three sons..John 1795, Alexander 1792, and my 4th grandpa..James 1790. I believe Alexander(the elder) married a Jane Isobel ? Robertson, she was born abt. 1768. Does anyone have any info ...would really appreciate it....

Hi ... Sluggan is on this map. I believe to be Inverness-Shire. http://uke.multimap.com/gb/A21851.htm To the left of Carrbridge .. about the middle of the map. Click on the map to zoom in closer if needed. Regards, Louise Ross -----Original Message----- From: William Innes [mailto:w.innes@sympatico.ca] Sent: April 27, 2005 8:09 PM To: MORAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MORAY] Sluggan Hi everyone. Ever so often, in some of my ancestors birth and marriage extracts, the name SLUGGAN keeps coming up. My ancestor, William Innes b: about 1778, did live there with his wife Janet Cameron. Actually, their daughter Margaret, 2nd born , was born in Sluggan. I believe this place, in the early 1800’s was in Inveravon, ( Glenlivet ). Does anyone know exactly where it is located? William in Montreal ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing list Admin. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx