Hello Howard, Ray and all Geddes researchers, I am still looking for the parents of Robert GORDON, Vintner in Elgin, who married Mary WILSON. Their children were born in Elgin from 1759 to 1768. Mary Wilson's maternal grandparents were John KELLIE in Newmill and Elizabeth FALCONAR, who married in Forres in 1707. Both are buried in the Alves churchyard. One possibility is that Robert is the son of Robert Gordon in Dundurcas and Margaret GEDDES, christened in Rothes in 1728. There are many other possibilities of course. Howard, I would be interested in viewing your OPRs for the baptisms of the children of Marjorie Geddes and Colin Falconar and for those of Mary Geddes and Alexander Thain. Perhaps something will jump out at me. Thanking you in anticipation, and regards from Denise Sydney, Australia . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Geddes" <hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] GEDDES & GEDDIE > Hi Ray, > You said: >> Malcolm GRAY was the son of 'Alexander GRAY and Isobel GEDDES' > I think you meant 'John GRAY and Janet GEDDES'. > > This line leads back to Alexander GEDDES and Isabel CARLE who married 1799 > Longside, ABN. > Your other line leads back through William GEDDES and Margaret OGSTON to > John GEDDES and Margaret CRUDEN who married 1802 Cruden, ABN. > > You'll have to go back even further to see if there's a connection! > > By the way, this is now firmly in Aberdeen, so with your permission, > perhaps > any further follow-up should be off-Moray-list? > > Regards Howard > > ______________________________

I found a David Geddes on a ship coming to Sydney when I was transcribing the list, ship was Wonga Wonga from Melbourne. He was 3rd engineer, aged 37 and British. Thats all I have. Barbara -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.10 - Release Date: 13/05/2005

Hi Ray, You said: > Malcolm GRAY was the son of 'Alexander GRAY and Isobel GEDDES' I think you meant 'John GRAY and Janet GEDDES'. This line leads back to Alexander GEDDES and Isabel CARLE who married 1799 Longside, ABN. Your other line leads back through William GEDDES and Margaret OGSTON to John GEDDES and Margaret CRUDEN who married 1802 Cruden, ABN. You'll have to go back even further to see if there's a connection! By the way, this is now firmly in Aberdeen, so with your permission, perhaps any further follow-up should be off-Moray-list? Regards Howard

Howard, You have got it spot on. I have the unlinked Alexander GEDDIE married to Mary Anne FALCONER, with the son Wiliam, but in my main tree I have Alexander GEDDIE married to UNKNOWN with two children , Mary and William - Alexander is the son of William GEDDIE and Ann LAING (one of William's two wives, the second being Ann MOIR). This fills in the detail I have and means I can delete the unlinked group solving another mystery. Many thanks! Jim Mackay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Geddes" <hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and Portsoy > Hi Jim, > > Re Alexander GEDDIE and Mary Anne FALCONER, there was also a daughter Mary > Ann born 8-Mar 1848 Speymouth as well as William. > Presumably she is the Mary GEDDIE who married John INNES 3 Jul 1868 > Urquhart, because in 1881: > Dwelling: Gordon Street > Census Place: Bellie, Elgin, Scotland > Volume 126 EnumDist 2 Page 25 > John INNES M 40 M Fochabers, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Painter & > Decorator Emp 1 Man > Mary INNES M 33 F Kingston, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Painters Wife > Mary A. INNES 12 F Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar > Amelia INNES 11 F Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar > Maggie I. INNES 9 F Kingston, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar > Robert A. INNES 7 M Garmouth, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar > Alexander G. INNES 4 M Dundee Rel: Son > John I. INNES 2 M Dundee Rel: Son > William G. INNES 11 m M Dundee Rel: Son > The IGI further yields for Father: John Innes, Mother: Mary Geddie > 1. MAGGIE JANE INNES Birth: 23 DEC 1871 Urquhart, Moray, Scotland > 2. ROBERT ALEXANDER INNES Birth: 14 JUL 1873 Urquhart, Moray, Scotland > 3. MARY ANN INNES Birth: 24 SEP 1868 Elgin, Moray, Scotland > 4. AMELIA INNES Birth: 08 MAR 1870 Elgin, Moray, Scotland > > The only local candidate for the father Alexander GEDDIE is: > ALEXANDER GEDDIE Birth: 10 DEC 1812 Christening: 1812 Speymouth, > Moray, Scotland > Father: WILLIAM GEDDIE Mother: ANNE LAING C111432 > This could imply a late or second marriage, because if his wife is much the > same age as her husband, she would be nearly 40 in 1850 when William was > born. Perhaps the 1851 census would clarify? > > Hope that helps a bit! > > Regards Howard > > ______________________________

Hi Howard Thanks for all the information - majestic! I've dug through our files and the confusion over Janet GRAY's maiden surname is caused by the documentation. As you note, her name on the various OPR records is clearly GEDDES. When she died aged 85 at Tiffery, Longside on 19 Dec 1885, her son, Malcolm, registered her parents as Alexander GEDDIE and Isobel GEDDIE [m.s. CARLE]. That being the only "official" copy we have, I had taken it as definitive [how naive!!] and changed our early records from GEDDES to GEDDIE. I didn't know then how flaky certificates could be. Sorry about this but it makes connection between Janet and her daughter-in-law's step-mother even more interesting! We now have this tree: James WISELY married (1) Mary WATT; (2) Margaret GEDDES Daughter of (1) was Jane WISELY, m. Malcolm GRAY 14 Dec 1866 Malcolm GRAY was the son of Alexander GRAY and Isobel GEDDES Because Margaret GEDDES is not a direct part of this branch of Sheena's tree, I don't have the link between these two GEDDES women. Do you know if Margaret GEDDES & Isobel GEDDES were related? Any info gratefully received. Thanks for all the inputs Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Geddes" <hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net>; <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and Portsoy > Hi Ray, > I think your latest confirms absolutely that your Janet GEDDIE > is in fact Janet GEDDES. > This flows from the IGI: > ALEXANDER GEDDES Spouse: ISABEL CARLE > Marriage: 29 AUG 1799 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland M112185 > Father: Alex Geddes, Mother: Isabel Carle > 1. JOHN GEDDES Christening: 23 JAN 1802 Longside, > 2. ALEXANDER GEDDES - Christening: 19 JUN 1806 Longside, > No sign of Janet, but this is clearly her family. > > Why the variation? No idea! I should think it's just one of those > things, > and I personally wouldn't consider this a 'valid' occurrence of the > surname GEDDIE, it's just a less than perfect memory of family names. > > HTH > > Howard

More on this topic, for my part I'm still wondering whether there are any connections with my lot in Deskford and Fordyce. I've had info about a possible sister of Marjory GEDDES (who married Colin FALCONER and whose birth date has to be quite close to 1692): Mary GEDDES married Alexander THAIN (like Colin, a merchant) in Keith 16 JUl 1708, and had issue. The witnesses of their children make it look indeed that this is the case, or at least certainly very closely related. That being so, I checked the IGI and found just one candidate for Mary/Marjory in the IGI: JAMES GEDDES and JEAN THAIN Marriage: 07 JUL 1689 Dyke, Moray M111332 and some family: DAVID GEDDES Christening: 27 JUL 1690 Dyke, Moray Father: James Geddes (C111332). MARIE GEDDES Christening: 06 SEP 1691 Dyke, Moray Father: James Geddes (C111332). JANET GEDDES Christening: 03 OCT 1693 Dyke, Moray Father: James Geddes (C111332). I have to say that this is very likely Marjory, because she fits my prediction so precisely, rather than Mary who married in 1708. Does anyone know of this family, or even perhaps have the OPR entries to hand? (And to the indefatigable Anne Burgess, its not that I'm asking, but....!!) Regards Howard

Hi Ray, I think your latest confirms absolutely that your Janet GEDDIE is in fact Janet GEDDES. This flows from the IGI: ALEXANDER GEDDES Spouse: ISABEL CARLE Marriage: 29 AUG 1799 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland M112185 Father: Alex Geddes, Mother: Isabel Carle 1. JOHN GEDDES Christening: 23 JAN 1802 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 2. ALEXANDER GEDDES - Christening: 19 JUN 1806 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland No sign of Janet, but this is clearly her family. Why the variation? No idea! I should think it's just one of those things, and I personally wouldn't consider this a 'valid' occurrence of the surname GEDDIE, it's just a less than perfect memory of family names. HTH Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and Portsoy > Hi Jim > > This is what I can glean easily from my brief notes. > > Our Janet GEDDIE was, according to a recently deceased cousin, born in > Old Meldrum about 1799. > John GRAY [born c 1781] married Janet [we believe] around the 1820s. > > John GRAY died 15 Dec 1874 aged "92" at Cairngall, Longside. > On his DC, John's parents were George GRAY and Barbara SMITH. > > Janet GRAY [m.s. GEDDIE] died 19 Dec 1885 aged 85 at Tiffery, Longside. > On her DC, Janet's parents were Alexander GEDDIE and Isobel CARLE. > > John & Janet GRAY had a son Malcolm GRAY. > His dates are 17 Jun 1843 Longside - 24 Nov 1912 Longside. > Malcolm married Jane WISELY on 14 Dec 1866 at Longside. > > Jane's dates were 5 Feb 1845 at Peterhead to 28 Jun 1909, ARI > [Cairngall]. > Jane was the daughter of James WISELY and Mary WATT. > James married [1] Mary on 25 Feb 1839, and [2] Margaret GEDDES 10 July > 1849. > We have a lot of data on James WISELY++ but I still have to organise it. > > I think Malcolm had a twin, Duncan, but I have no data readily to hand > on him. > > If any of this is of interest, I can dig further into our notebooks but > I doubt if there is much more of substance. We have been unable to > trace back any further. Barbara SMITH might have been the one born at > Udny in 1790/91 but we have no way of proving it. > > HTH :-) > > Best wishes > > Ray Hennessy

Ray and Listers, I get the Digest and I've 'at it' in other directions, so sorry about the delay. Ray asked: "We have a Margaret GEDDES, second wife of James WISELY [m.10.7.1849], but not, as far as I know, associated with Aberlour. We also have a Janet GEDDIE who married John GRAY somewhere in the Longside or nearby areas around 1820-1830. Are the GEDDIE line a variant of GEDDES?? Janet & John's son married the daughter of James WISELY's first wife..." First, to answer Ray's direct question "Are the GEDDIE line a variant of GEDDES??": I think the answer is broadly 'no, but'. But if evidence turns up.... See below. Secondly does this clarify the identity of Janet GEDDIE?! From the IGI: JOHN GRAY Spouse: JANET GEDDES Marriage: 04 AUG 1828 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland (M112185) Father: John Gray, Mother: Janet Geddes (not Geddie) 1. DUNCAN GRAY Christening: 17 JUN 1843 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 2. MALCOLM GRAY Christening: 17 JUN 1843 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 3. WILLIAM GRAY Christening: 29 MAY 1830 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 4. EDMUND GRAY Christening: 17 APR 1836 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 5. ANNE GRAY Christening: 05 MAY 1834 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 6. ROBERT GRAY Christening: 01 AUG 1832 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland 7. JANET GRAY Christening: 02 JUN 1838 Longside, Aberdeen, Scotland I think one can safely say that your Janet GEDDIE is actually Janet GEDDES. Thus I cannot see any connection with any Janet GEDDIEs down Jim Mackay's way. About GEDDES and GEDDIE. You'd have thought there was a connection, but none has been found that I'm aware of. Thirdly, more on the origin of the surnames. If Listers are not interested, skip the rest. The name Geddes is first mentioned in 1280, in context of The Lands Of Geddes, and by then the name was clearly already long established. It has several geographic concentrations all over Scotland: e.g. Peebles, Galloway, the Far North, Nairn. Black's Surnames of Scotland has a decent length paragraph which starts: "Geddes, and Geddess, is of territorial origin from the lands of Geddes in Nairnshire, which were in possession of the family of Rose before they obtained Kilravock." Auckland Campbell Geddes in a 1952 book The Forging Of A Family gives an appealing theory about the origin of the name and the people. Briefly, the name derives from the Norse word for a pike (the fish, not the long pointy thing) - a Ged which word is still used in Heraldry today. Heraldry-Online recently cited on this List gives all the Geddes Arms, and the one that caught my eye was crest of three Geds (pikes) carved on a grave in Moray with this MI: HEIR. LYIS. ANE. HONEST / MAN. CALIT. GEORG. GEDDES. SWMTYM. IN. DWELLER / IN. THE. WALKMYLNE / WHA. DEPAIRIT. THE. 12. OF. APRIL. 1632. AND. HIS. SPOWS = MARIORI. SIMSON // WHA DEPAIRIT THE 28 IAIAWARY 1628. (Is this in Bellie Churchyard?) The spelling doesn't seem to have changed at all since then (in Scotland that is - in England, poor lost souls that they are, my name gets spelled in every which way you can imagine and then some, and as for pronunciation - well!) Black's Surnames of Scotland says about GEDDIE: "A family of this name was long connected with the district of Essie. John Gedy, abbot of Arbroath, was prominently associated with the first formation of a harbor at Arbroath in 1394 (RAA., ii, p40-42). The agreement between him and the burgesses of the town is "perhaps the most curious and interesting of the records of harbour-making and also of voluntary taxation in Scotland" (ibid., ii, p.xviii). John Geddy was servitor to Ceorge Buchanan c. 1577 ( Report on Laing MSS., i, p.29). Walter Geddy of St. Andrews appears in 1580 (Laing, 1001). Gedde 1680; Geiddy." Given the apparent single-point origin of the surname, you have to think it is a corruption of Geddes, and the entry doesn't seem to relate at all to the Moray Geddies which for me is another reason to think the Moray Geddie was derived long ago from the local Geddes surname. Lawrence Geddie had a website called Geddie-World (http://www.booksphere.com/gedworld) which gave lots of Geddie-related info, but that seems to have gone now. Another similar surname is GADDIS: as far as I can see this is of entirely Irish origin with loads of that name emigrating from Ireland to the US (whereas GEDDES people tended to emigrate from Scotland to Canada). Again, apart from clerical errors, I've never come across a valid connection between the two surnames, although it has been said, quite reasonably, that Gaddis evolved from Geddes when Scots Geddeses went across to Ireland during 'Plantation'. Of course the Irish contingent think that Geddes evolved from Gaddis when the Gaddis came across from Ulster to Galloway even earlier - but they're wrong of course! Geddes rules because Geddes says so! Regards Howard

Hi Jim, Re Alexander GEDDIE and Mary Anne FALCONER, there was also a daughter Mary Ann born 8-Mar 1848 Speymouth as well as William. Presumably she is the Mary GEDDIE who married John INNES 3 Jul 1868 Urquhart, because in 1881: Dwelling: Gordon Street Census Place: Bellie, Elgin, Scotland Volume 126 EnumDist 2 Page 25 John INNES M 40 M Fochabers, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Painter & Decorator Emp 1 Man Mary INNES M 33 F Kingston, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Painters Wife Mary A. INNES 12 F Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Amelia INNES 11 F Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Maggie I. INNES 9 F Kingston, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Robert A. INNES 7 M Garmouth, Elgin, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alexander G. INNES 4 M Dundee Rel: Son John I. INNES 2 M Dundee Rel: Son William G. INNES 11 m M Dundee Rel: Son The IGI further yields for Father: John Innes, Mother: Mary Geddie 1. MAGGIE JANE INNES Birth: 23 DEC 1871 Urquhart, Moray, Scotland 2. ROBERT ALEXANDER INNES Birth: 14 JUL 1873 Urquhart, Moray, Scotland 3. MARY ANN INNES Birth: 24 SEP 1868 Elgin, Moray, Scotland 4. AMELIA INNES Birth: 08 MAR 1870 Elgin, Moray, Scotland The only local candidate for the father Alexander GEDDIE is: ALEXANDER GEDDIE Birth: 10 DEC 1812 Christening: 1812 Speymouth, Moray, Scotland Father: WILLIAM GEDDIE Mother: ANNE LAING C111432 This could imply a late or second marriage, because if his wife is much the same age as her husband, she would be nearly 40 in 1850 when William was born. Perhaps the 1851 census would clarify? Hope that helps a bit! Regards Howard

During my research I have used the IGI to find births and where they have been extracts I have accepted them and in due course verified them from the OPR itself. During a recent visit to Elgin I visited the Heritage Centre there to do a bit of research and found myself looking at the Roman Catholic Register for Fochabers on microfilm (by special agreement it is there) and discovered in that register several births recorded which I had previously found in the IGI and recorded in Batch C111444 (Urquhart) as extracts suggesting an adherence to the Established Church. The question now arises as to whether or not this was a mixed marriage or were the parents merely complying with what was supposed to be the legal requirement but ignored by many. The mother of the children appeared to come from a generally C of S family background but I also found births recorded for children born to what could have been her aunt although in this case I cannot find any children recorded in the IGI or the OPR. Just when I thought things were beginning to make sense! Ian A C Scott

Thank you so much to Anne who was the 'full bottle' on blacksmiths. To Ray who gave such good information regarding maps. To Ed - who also added to map info and gave a location. To Pegie who, obliquely - and Anne completely - has had us dancing all over the living room. We never stop learning, do we? Thank you all so much. I am sure that the answers to our own individual questions help others and vice verca. Thanks everyone for sharing. What a List! Cheers.........Judy. Perth. W.Australia

Another big thankyou to Min from N.Zealand who shared her experience growing up in Nairn. Every little bit helps in the big picture concerning our roots. Thanks to all.........Judy. Perth. W. Australia

hello List, I have seen mention of quite a few GRANTS on the list, my research is for my Wiseman family mainly in Morayshire. I have a John WISEMAN bn 1759 at Newton Morayshire. died 7.Apr 1839 Elgin. He married Margaret GRANT 30 July 1791 Kinloss. They had four children. Looking at the Margaret Grants on the IGI, there were several to pick and choose from so wondered if this Margaret Grant of mine connects with anyones family, would be interested to hear. Thanks, Pearl M. New Zealand.

Hello Judy, I come from Nairn and my grandfather had a farm at Glenferness which is close to Ferness Bridge. All this area belonged to the Glenferness estate. This is a farming area, small by Aussie sizes and a blacksmith would be a necessity in that area. My uncle was still using Clydesdale horses on his farm until the very late 1940s/early 1950s. Petrol was still rationed then. I am pretty sure that there would have been an apprenticeship. Coincidently my grandfathers first occupation was 'Journeyman Blacksmith'. A journeyman was a qualified tradesman. Two of my uncles although not qualified were good farriers. One settled in Melbourne and looked after horses used for delivering the early morning milk. I have a lot of ties with Australia, one of my great aunt and family settled around Katanning and York in W.A. I now live in N.Z. Hope this helps. Regards, Min Walker minw@ihug.co.nz

> One thing to be careful about here is that the ref quoted for the MI > is that > in the LIBINDX Records and may not tie in with a published > booklet. I have > found this is the case when checking as number against that in the > > Speyside > MIs. This is absolutely right. The references in LIBINDX refer to the internal system in Moray Local Heritage Centre, and are no use at all for looking the information up anywhere else. There is a booklet of MIs for Speyside, but it records only stones with pre-1855 information, so it's no use for William's John Innes. So there are just two ways to get this MI: visit Downan or visit Elgin. Anne

Hi William One thing to be careful about here is that the ref quoted for the MI is that in the LIBINDX Records and may not tie in with a published booklet. I have found this is the case when checking as number against that in the Speyside MIs. Ian A C Scott

Lately, I have been bringing my files on the Innesses up to date using the Libindx. For a while, I have been looking for John Innes b:1871 at Craighead Farm. In the early 1950’s my parents took us for a trip to Detroit, Michigan, USA.to see John. We later heard that he had passed away. I always thought that it was in the USA. Yesterday, while looking through the Libindx, I accidently came across NM082633 which confirmed to me that John actually came back home to pass away on the 10 Feb. 1954 in Dufftown, Mortlach. His death extracts also confirms it. I need your help. John was buried in the Downan Cemetery and the Headstone Ref. is Dw230. Would anyone have access to this MI? William in Montreal.

Hi Jim This is what I can glean easily from my brief notes. Our Janet GEDDIE was, according to a recently deceased cousin, born in Old Meldrum about 1799. John GRAY [born c 1781] married Janet [we believe] around the 1820s. John GRAY died 15 Dec 1874 aged "92" at Cairngall, Longside. On his DC, John's parents were George GRAY and Barbara SMITH. Janet GRAY [m.s. GEDDIE] died 19 Dec 1885 aged 85 at Tiffery, Longside. On her DC, Janet's parents were Alexander GEDDIE and Isobel CARLE. John & Janet GRAY had a son Malcolm GRAY. His dates are 17 Jun 1843 Longside - 24 Nov 1912 Longside. Malcolm married Jane WISELY on 14 Dec 1866 at Longside. Jane's dates were 5 Feb 1845 at Peterhead to 28 Jun 1909, ARI [Cairngall]. Jane was the daughter of James WISELY and Mary WATT. James married [1] Mary on 25 Feb 1839, and [2] Margaret GEDDES 10 July 1849. We have a lot of data on James WISELY++ but I still have to organise it. I think Malcolm had a twin, Duncan, but I have no data readily to hand on him. If any of this is of interest, I can dig further into our notebooks but I doubt if there is much more of substance. We have been unable to trace back any further. Barbara SMITH might have been the one born at Udny in 1790/91 but we have no way of proving it. HTH :-) Best wishes Ray Hennessy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mackay" <james.mackay4@ntlworld.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and Portsoy > Howard Geddes and I have exchanged correspondence on GEDDIE/ GEDDES on > a > number of occasions. I have yet to find a cross-over between the two > names. > I am researching the Geddie families in the area and have a number of > Janet > GEDDIEs but not the one you have, so any information you can provide > about > her would be helpful. > > Regards, > > Jim Mackay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and > Portsoy > > >> Howard Geddes wrote: >> >> > For Ray Hennessy's info, one line seems to have ended up in >> > Aberlour. >> > (Ray: did we not correspond about them a long while ago?) >> >> Aye Howard, we did correspond on a number of aspects. >> >> We have a Margaret GEDDES, second wife of James WISELY [m.10.7.1849], >> but not, as far as I know, associated with Aberlour. Our link is >> with >> James WISELY's first wife, but I am desperately trying to document >> the >> extended tree in that area as about 7 or 8 living relatives want the >> whole mixture sorted out. >> >> Any information on that Margaret would be useful and very welcome. >> >> Incidentally we also have a Janet GEDDIE who married John GRAY >> somewhere >> in the Longside or nearby areas around 1820-1830. Are the GEDDIE >> line a >> variant of GEDDES?? Janet & John's son married the daughter of James >> WISELY's first wife, so the linking of the names GEDDES & GEDDIE >> would >> be intriguing! >> >> Best wishes >> >> Ray Hennessy >> >> ______________________________ > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Further to my previous message about GEDDES and GEDDIE I also have one Geddie link to the FALCONER surname. I have a Mary Anne FALCONER who (according to the IGI) married an Alexander GEDDIE on 29 May 1847 and had a son William GEDDIE born (or christened - again from the IGI) on 31 Dec 1850. However, these details are not linked to anyone else in my records and are purely a transcription from the IGI. Any further links would be gratefully received. Jim Mackay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and Portsoy > Howard Geddes wrote: > > > For Ray Hennessy's info, one line seems to have ended up in Aberlour. > > (Ray: did we not correspond about them a long while ago?) > > Aye Howard, we did correspond on a number of aspects. > > We have a Margaret GEDDES, second wife of James WISELY [m.10.7.1849], > but not, as far as I know, associated with Aberlour. Our link is with > James WISELY's first wife, but I am desperately trying to document the > extended tree in that area as about 7 or 8 living relatives want the > whole mixture sorted out. > > Any information on that Margaret would be useful and very welcome. > > Incidentally we also have a Janet GEDDIE who married John GRAY somewhere > in the Longside or nearby areas around 1820-1830. Are the GEDDIE line a > variant of GEDDES?? Janet & John's son married the daughter of James > WISELY's first wife, so the linking of the names GEDDES & GEDDIE would > be intriguing! > > Best wishes > > Ray Hennessy > > ______________________________

Howard Geddes and I have exchanged correspondence on GEDDIE/ GEDDES on a number of occasions. I have yet to find a cross-over between the two names. I am researching the Geddie families in the area and have a number of Janet GEDDIEs but not the one you have, so any information you can provide about her would be helpful. Regards, Jim Mackay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hennessy" <ray@whatsinaname.net> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Re: Falconer line, and Marjory GEDDES Keith and Portsoy > Howard Geddes wrote: > > > For Ray Hennessy's info, one line seems to have ended up in Aberlour. > > (Ray: did we not correspond about them a long while ago?) > > Aye Howard, we did correspond on a number of aspects. > > We have a Margaret GEDDES, second wife of James WISELY [m.10.7.1849], > but not, as far as I know, associated with Aberlour. Our link is with > James WISELY's first wife, but I am desperately trying to document the > extended tree in that area as about 7 or 8 living relatives want the > whole mixture sorted out. > > Any information on that Margaret would be useful and very welcome. > > Incidentally we also have a Janet GEDDIE who married John GRAY somewhere > in the Longside or nearby areas around 1820-1830. Are the GEDDIE line a > variant of GEDDES?? Janet & John's son married the daughter of James > WISELY's first wife, so the linking of the names GEDDES & GEDDIE would > be intriguing! > > Best wishes > > Ray Hennessy > > ______________________________