When did Banffshire move to Moray? Sharon --- Aberlouresearch@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, Just to let you know which 0f the > following databases i have > been working on. > > > Aberlour Baptisms 1703 - 1854 > Births 1855 - > 1905 > > Banns 1708 - > 1854 > Marriages 1855 - > 1905 > > Burials 1709 - > 1760 > Deaths 1855 - > 1905 > > Census 1841 > 1851 1861 1871 1881 1891 > > M.I'S > Complete upto 2004 > > I.G.I > Complete > > Following shortly > will be School admission > registers and Poor law > records. > > I also have a family > file with over 20,000 > people connected to the > families in Aberlour. > > > > Inveravon Census 1841 1851 > 1861 1881 > > I.G.I complete > > > > Mortlach Baptaisms 1741 - 1820 > > Census 1805 > 1821 1841 1851 1861 > 1881 > > I.G.I Complete > > > > If anyone would like anything checking please just > ask. > > Regards Ray ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

Hello Karen and thank you for that really welcome information. Best wishes, Tony Savery ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen donald" <karenadona@yahoo.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Geddes > Hi Tony > > Think you should be looking for Drainie Parish.See > below.( Birth place of James Ramsay McDonald) > > Building No.:1 > Location:GREGORY PLACE > Town/Village:LOSSIEMOUTH > Parish: DRAINIE > > Place of Birth: 1 GREGORY PLACE LOSSIEMOUTH > Father's Name: JOHN MACDONALD PLOUGHMAN SWEETHILLOCK > Mother's Name:ANNE RAMSAY HOUSEKEEPER( See NM149918)( > Libindx ref number) > > > Location:GREGORY PLACE. > Town/Village:LOSSIEMOUTH > Parish: DRAINIE > More Details: NAMED AFTER THOMAS GREGORY, MASON. > > Here are the IGI batch numbers > Drainie > > C111301 1855-1867 > M111301 1855-1875 > > C111302 1631-1650 and 1768-1855 > M111302 1666-1820 > > C111303 1868-1875 > M111304 1820-1846 > > 12 October 1866 > The birth of British Prime Minister James Ramsay > MacDonald at Lossiemouth, Morayshire, an illegitimate > son of Highland plowman John MacDonald and farm > servant Anne Ramsay. A model student at Drainie Parish > School. He was brought up in his grandmother's > cottage. > > Not sure if this is the grandmothers house but it is a > where the plaque is and a starting point for you. I am > sure some Lossie quine or loon will be able to tell > you.It near the East Beach. Thats all I know. > > > In the Moray papers about Ramsay McDonald > is a photograph of memorial plaque at 1 Gregory Place, > Lossiemouth, in "Northern Scot Christmas number" p27 - > > > > and plans of memorial shelter at Prospect Terrace, > Lossiemouth - ZCMn DE3/966/27 > > Again either of these may be of help. > > Karen Donald > > --- Tony Savery <hi.tone@hetnet.nl> wrote: >> Hello Angela, >> I believe I am right in saying that for searches for >> folk from Lossiemouth, >> you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or >> Elgin. Please correct me if >> I am wrong someone. I am myself trying to find where >> my great grandfather, >> Joseph Forsyth Taylor,(born 1861) had lived in >> Lossiemouth. He was said to >> have lived next door to Ramsay Macdonald and it >> would be nice to know if >> this was fact or fiction. >> Good luck, >> >> Tony Savery >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> >> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:59 AM >> Subject: [MORAY] Geddes >> >> >> > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who >> married Margaret HENDERSON in >> > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his >> marriage were James >> > GEDDES >> > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately >> I cannot find their >> > deaths >> > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even >> though it was about 1861. >> > Any >> > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela >> > >> > >> > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change >> your email address, or >> > report anything to the admin of the list - all >> this information can be >> > found at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories >> about your family and the >> > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in >> the last 12 months. >> > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your >> email address, or report anything to the admin of >> the list - all this information can be found at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about >> your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the >> last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns > about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or > join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

This e-mail chain has gone from Geddes to Taylor to MacDonald. Does anyone have the ancestors/family of John MacDonald? Was he from Knockando as some of my family say? Regards Michael Sim ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen donald" <karenadona@yahoo.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Geddes > Hi Tony > > Think you should be looking for Drainie Parish.See > below.( Birth place of James Ramsay McDonald) > > Building No.:1 > Location:GREGORY PLACE > Town/Village:LOSSIEMOUTH > Parish: DRAINIE > > Place of Birth: 1 GREGORY PLACE LOSSIEMOUTH > Father's Name: JOHN MACDONALD PLOUGHMAN SWEETHILLOCK > Mother's Name:ANNE RAMSAY HOUSEKEEPER( See NM149918)( > Libindx ref number) > > > Location:GREGORY PLACE. > Town/Village:LOSSIEMOUTH > Parish: DRAINIE > More Details: NAMED AFTER THOMAS GREGORY, MASON. > > Here are the IGI batch numbers > Drainie > > C111301 1855-1867 > M111301 1855-1875 > > C111302 1631-1650 and 1768-1855 > M111302 1666-1820 > > C111303 1868-1875 > M111304 1820-1846 > > 12 October 1866 > The birth of British Prime Minister James Ramsay > MacDonald at Lossiemouth, Morayshire, an illegitimate > son of Highland plowman John MacDonald and farm > servant Anne Ramsay. A model student at Drainie Parish > School. He was brought up in his grandmother's > cottage. > > Not sure if this is the grandmothers house but it is a > where the plaque is and a starting point for you. I am > sure some Lossie quine or loon will be able to tell > you.It near the East Beach. Thats all I know. > > > In the Moray papers about Ramsay McDonald > is a photograph of memorial plaque at 1 Gregory Place, > Lossiemouth, in "Northern Scot Christmas number" p27 - > > > > and plans of memorial shelter at Prospect Terrace, > Lossiemouth - ZCMn DE3/966/27 > > Again either of these may be of help. > > Karen Donald > > --- Tony Savery <hi.tone@hetnet.nl> wrote: > > Hello Angela, > > I believe I am right in saying that for searches for > > folk from Lossiemouth, > > you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or > > Elgin. Please correct me if > > I am wrong someone. I am myself trying to find where > > my great grandfather, > > Joseph Forsyth Taylor,(born 1861) had lived in > > Lossiemouth. He was said to > > have lived next door to Ramsay Macdonald and it > > would be nice to know if > > this was fact or fiction. > > Good luck, > > > > Tony Savery > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> > > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:59 AM > > Subject: [MORAY] Geddes > > > > > > > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who > > married Margaret HENDERSON in > > > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his > > marriage were James > > > GEDDES > > > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately > > I cannot find their > > > deaths > > > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even > > though it was about 1861. > > > Any > > > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela > > > > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > > > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change > > your email address, or > > > report anything to the admin of the list - all > > this information can be > > > found at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories > > about your family and the > > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in > > the last 12 months. > > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your > > email address, or report anything to the admin of > > the list - all this information can be found at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > > your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > > last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Angela, what other details do you have? Especially occupations, and Margaret HENDERSON's parents? The 1891 census index has these people (one family?) in Elgin district ref 135-013-004, which fits with an 1861 birth. John GEDDES 30 Margaret J GEDDES 27 (prob his wife) Alexander GEDDES 2 (prob their son) In 1881, John Geddes was a Tinsmith, born "Dalvey, Elgin". I already had a question mark against them, wondering whether he was John GEDDES born 23-Jun-1859 Dyke to William GEDDES and Barbara SMITH. I know about this couple. Tell you more if there's a connection, otherwise it'll just confuse right now. Note the name Barbara in common, though. I now see that there is a Margaret J HENDERSON in 1881: Dwelling: 56 Mealvennel. Perth Middle Church, Perth, Scotland Volume 387 EnumDist 24 Page 42 John HENDERSON M 43 M Nairn, Banff, Scotland HeadLetter Carrier Ann HENDERSON M 40 F Nairn, Banff, Scotland WifeHouse Keeper Margaret J. HENDERSON U 18 F Perth, Perth, Scotland Daur Machinist <<<--- James R. HENDERSON U 15 M Perth, Perth, Scotland Son Telegraph Messenger Annie HENDERSON U 13 F Perth, Perth, Scotland Daur Picking At Dye Works Mary HENDERSON 11 F Perth, Perth, Scotland Daur Scholar John HENDERSON 9 M Perth, Perth, Scotland Son Scholar Isabella B. HENDERSON 6 F Perth, Perth, Scotland Daur Scholar William HENDERSON 3 M Perth, Perth, Scotland Son Isac Mc I. HENDERSON 9 m M Perth, Perth, Scotland Son Maybe the family returned 'home'. This is a pretty long-odds possibility, and a look at the actual census could well destroy this theory, but if none of 'your' names seem to exist, perhaps they are not the right names. Regards Howard Geddes PS I'll be off-air for a week or so.

Have you considered that John GEDDES may have been born illegitimately and that his birth is registered as John MORRISON? I checked the IGI and the only birth I could find to a Barbara MORRISON was on 21 Aug 1861 at Glasgow, Lanarkshire. It's a long shot, but it might be worth checking out. Thank you Tony and Lorna for your input, doesn't matter Tony if it wasn't right. I think it helps you think about it differently and yes Lorna I had found that entry for John Morrison. I felt it was too far away to have been mine (maybe) and it lists just Barbara Morrison, no father. But it is a bit too coincidental isn't it. Any suggestions on how to prove it ? I have found in the 1871 census Barbara and son James, not John 9yrs living with her parents. Sooooo I feel they could be mine but how to prove it is another thing. Many thanks Angela

Hi Ray, would it be possible for you to look at Aberlour Baptisms for children of JAMES McKERRON[c-1762] and MARGARET CLARK.[c-1758] married 5/06/1787. Their Headstone in Aberlour cemetery says that they lived in Knockside and had 5 sons and 3 daughters. As yet i have only 4 children: JEAN[c-1790] ,ANN[c-1792], PETER[23/03/1796], JAMES [c-1801] . Regards Stewart Winchester

Would you have anything on a John Innes who died on the 15 July 1863 in Aberlour. It shows he died in Sockach. William ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aberlouresearch@aol.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY]Banffshire databases update................. > Hi Everyone, Just to let you know which 0f the following databases i > have > been working on. > > > Aberlour Baptisms 1703 - 1854 > Births 1855 - 1905 > > Banns 1708 - 1854 > Marriages 1855 - 1905 > > Burials 1709 - 1760 > Deaths 1855 - 1905 > > Census 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 > 1891 > > M.I'S Complete upto 2004 > > I.G.I Complete > > Following shortly will be School admission > registers and Poor law > records. > > I also have a family file with over 20,000 > people connected to the > families in Aberlour. > > > > Inveravon Census 1841 1851 1861 1881 > > I.G.I complete > > > > Mortlach Baptaisms 1741 - 1820 > > Census 1805 1821 1841 1851 1861 > 1881 > > I.G.I Complete > > > > If anyone would like anything checking please just ask. > > Regards Ray > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi Ray. Would you have anything on a John Innes. His death extract states that he died 15 July 1863 at the age of 59 in Sockach in the Parish of Aberlour. It also shows that he was married to Ann Forbes. His parents were John Innes and Elspet Innes. William in Montreal ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aberlouresearch@aol.com> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY]Banffshire databases update................. > Hi Everyone, Just to let you know which 0f the following databases i > have > been working on. > > > Aberlour Baptisms 1703 - 1854 > Births 1855 - 1905 > > Banns 1708 - 1854 > Marriages 1855 - 1905 > > Burials 1709 - 1760 > Deaths 1855 - 1905 > > Census 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 > 1891 > > M.I'S Complete upto 2004 > > I.G.I Complete > > Following shortly will be School admission > registers and Poor law > records. > > I also have a family file with over 20,000 > people connected to the > families in Aberlour. > > > > Inveravon Census 1841 1851 1861 1881 > > I.G.I complete > > > > Mortlach Baptaisms 1741 - 1820 > > Census 1805 1821 1841 1851 1861 > 1881 > > I.G.I Complete > > > > If anyone would like anything checking please just ask. > > Regards Ray > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > MORAY OPR's. The OPR's for the Moray area are now starting to be > transcribed and volunteers are needed. Would anyone interested in > transcribing the OPR's for our area please contact me via my usual email > address or visit the Moray Rootsweb pages and contact me via the mailing > list Admin. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi Ray Could you have a look at the 1861 Census for Baillies in Mortlach? It is probable that there will be an Isabella Baillie, Widow, at Easter Brawlands with a young family. Her husband was George Baillie and their last child was born in 1852 but I can find no trace of him after that time. Many Thanks Ian A C Scott

Hi Everyone, Just to let you know which 0f the following databases i have been working on. Aberlour Baptisms 1703 - 1854 Births 1855 - 1905 Banns 1708 - 1854 Marriages 1855 - 1905 Burials 1709 - 1760 Deaths 1855 - 1905 Census 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 1891 M.I'S Complete upto 2004 I.G.I Complete Following shortly will be School admission registers and Poor law records. I also have a family file with over 20,000 people connected to the families in Aberlour. Inveravon Census 1841 1851 1861 1881 I.G.I complete Mortlach Baptaisms 1741 - 1820 Census 1805 1821 1841 1851 1861 1881 I.G.I Complete If anyone would like anything checking please just ask. Regards Ray

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ross, Coldwell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BgC.2ACI/781.2 Message Board Post: Would like to contact you. I have information on this family. Email me at qwertz@linzag.net John

Hi Tony Think you should be looking for Drainie Parish.See below.( Birth place of James Ramsay McDonald) Building No.:1 Location:GREGORY PLACE Town/Village:LOSSIEMOUTH Parish: DRAINIE Place of Birth: 1 GREGORY PLACE LOSSIEMOUTH Father's Name: JOHN MACDONALD PLOUGHMAN SWEETHILLOCK Mother's Name:ANNE RAMSAY HOUSEKEEPER( See NM149918)( Libindx ref number) Location:GREGORY PLACE. Town/Village:LOSSIEMOUTH Parish: DRAINIE More Details: NAMED AFTER THOMAS GREGORY, MASON. Here are the IGI batch numbers Drainie C111301 1855-1867 M111301 1855-1875 C111302 1631-1650 and 1768-1855 M111302 1666-1820 C111303 1868-1875 M111304 1820-1846 12 October 1866 The birth of British Prime Minister James Ramsay MacDonald at Lossiemouth, Morayshire, an illegitimate son of Highland plowman John MacDonald and farm servant Anne Ramsay. A model student at Drainie Parish School. He was brought up in his grandmother's cottage. Not sure if this is the grandmothers house but it is a where the plaque is and a starting point for you. I am sure some Lossie quine or loon will be able to tell you.It near the East Beach. Thats all I know. In the Moray papers about Ramsay McDonald is a photograph of memorial plaque at 1 Gregory Place, Lossiemouth, in "Northern Scot Christmas number" p27 - and plans of memorial shelter at Prospect Terrace, Lossiemouth - ZCMn DE3/966/27 Again either of these may be of help. Karen Donald --- Tony Savery <hi.tone@hetnet.nl> wrote: > Hello Angela, > I believe I am right in saying that for searches for > folk from Lossiemouth, > you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or > Elgin. Please correct me if > I am wrong someone. I am myself trying to find where > my great grandfather, > Joseph Forsyth Taylor,(born 1861) had lived in > Lossiemouth. He was said to > have lived next door to Ramsay Macdonald and it > would be nice to know if > this was fact or fiction. > Good luck, > > Tony Savery > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:59 AM > Subject: [MORAY] Geddes > > > > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who > married Margaret HENDERSON in > > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his > marriage were James > > GEDDES > > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately > I cannot find their > > deaths > > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even > though it was about 1861. > > Any > > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change > your email address, or > > report anything to the admin of the list - all > this information can be > > found at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories > about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in > the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your > email address, or report anything to the admin of > the list - all this information can be found at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Many thanks Howard, and also Alyson. Some of the witnesses have the same name as witnesses in my records, but I will have to check out whether they are in fact the same people. Regards from Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Geddes" <hwg58lists@hwgeddes.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Denise Thompson" <den.thom@bigpond.net.au>; "List Moray" <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] GEDDES & GEDDIE > Hi Denise, > Here's the details. I've done the Fordyce OPR and Alyson Kelman has just > kindly provided me all with the Keith ones she fortunately already had to > hand. I'm sure she won't mind me passing these on. > > Colin FALCONER & Marjory GEDDES: > Marriage: 22-6-1710 Keith Coline_ Falconar and Marjory Geddes (M111592 - > no > transcription) > Details of their children all bpt Keith: > 1. 2-10-1711 Andrew: b Keith 2nd bpt 3 Oct 1710. Wit.s "Mr Andrew Geddes > Schoolmr at Esle and Andrew Mitchell in Westertown" > 2. 12-4-1713 Mary: born & baptised 12 April 1713. Wit.s "Alexr Robertson > younger in Keith and Hierom Spence in Haughs" > 3. 26-7-1714 Margaret: b 20 bpt 21 July 1714. Wits "Mr Andrew Geddes > Schoolmr at Esle & Alexr Rotson yr mert in Keith" > 4. 10-9-1717 Alexander: "incomplete entry, no witnessess" > 5. 24-12-1718 Barbara: b 23 bpt 24 Dec 1718. Wit.s "Alexr Robertson & > Alexr > Thain Merts there" [in Keith] > 6. 11-2-1720 Colin: b 10 bpt 11 Feb 1720. Wits "Colin Falconar at Banff & > Colin Petrie in Strathboggie, Katherine Gilchrist & Elizabeth Paterson" > Details of their children all bpt Fordyce: > 7. 21 Mar 1721 William: "21-3-1721 Colin Falconer & Marjory Geddes in > Portsoy......Witnesses:,Wm Legg in Auchmore, & Mr Wm Robertson in Cullen." > 8. 19 May 1723 Elspet: (no transcription) > 9. 13 Jan 1725 Ann: "Colin Falconer & Marjory Geddes in Portsoy had a > Lawful Daughter baptized called Ann. Witnesses: James Ogilvy James > Robertson > and James Martkis[?] all there." > 10. 11 Aug 1727 David: "Colin Falconer & Marjory Geddes in Portsoy had a > Lawful son baptized called David. Witnesses: David Brember & David Shand > both there." I read the date as 21st, the IGI I think has 11th. > 11. 22 Jan 1733 John: (no transcription) > > Andrew THAIN and Mary GEDDES, all Keith: > 1. Alexander b 20 bpt 21 June 1709 Wit.s "Alexr Sutherland Elder of > Kinminnity and Alexr Robertson elder and your Merts in Keith" > 2. George b 23 bpt 24 March 1711. Wits "George Hamilton in Kmty > [Kinminity], Geo: Sim elder in Newmilne, Geo: Frazer, Geo: Raphan & Geo: > Thain there" > 3. Andrew b 24 bpt 25 Sept 1712. Wits "Mr Andrew Geddes Schoolmr at > Garmouth & Andrew Mitchell in Westertown" > [mother's name written clearly as "Marjory"!] > 4. Margaret b 3 bpt 4 Nov 1714. Wits "George Thain in Cuperhill & Hierom > Spence in Haughs" > 5. Marjory b 17 bpt 18 Nov 1716. Wits "Alexr Robertson in Keith & James > Tarras mert there" > 6. Janet b 21 bpt 24 Nov 1718. Wits "George Findlater officer of Excise & > Alexr Tarras notar in Keith" > 7. I've found another child found in the IGI, no transcription: JEAN THAIN > b 02 DEC 1720 bpt 04 DEC 1720 Keith, Banff to ALEXR. THAIN and MARJORY > GEDDES C111592 > 8. William b Edindaich 21 bpt Keith 22 Feb 1728. Wits "William Geddes mert > in Elgin, Wm Taylor mert in Keith, Wm Taylor in Whitehillock, Janet > Mitchell > in Kirksel, Margaret Taylor in [illegible]" > Note the gap 1720-1728. > > And another event: > 15 April 1709 "Hugh Falconar in Keith had a child begotten in uncleaness > to > Margaret Henderson baptised and called Janet Witnesses George Thain in > Couperhill and George Henderson in Ryrigs" > 15 April 1709 (Blinschell copy) "Janett Falconer begotten in Fornication > by > Hugh Falconer was baptized. Witnesses George Thain in Cuperhill & George > Henderson in Fordyce" [sic.] > > Many thanks to Alyson Kelman for all the Keith info. > > Regards Howard > > >

Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who married Margaret HENDERSON in Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his marriage were James GEDDES and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately I cannot find their deaths nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even though it was about 1861. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela

Thank you to Lorna for that correction and very useful information. That has certainly explained some things. Also my apologies to Angela for that bit of useless information that I offered. I'll keep taking the tablets! Best wishes, Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Wallace" <sales@ashworthandcompanyltd.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Geddes > Hi Tony > > I believe Lossiemouth is in the Parish of Drainie, Moray. St Andrews > Lhanbryd and Elgin are separate parishes which are nearby. > > Lorna Wallace > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Savery" <hi.tone@hetnet.nl> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [MORAY] Geddes > > >> Hello Angela, >> I believe I am right in saying that for searches for folk from > Lossiemouth, >> you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or Elgin. Please correct me > if >> I am wrong someone. I am myself trying to find where my great >> grandfather, >> Joseph Forsyth Taylor,(born 1861) had lived in Lossiemouth. He was said >> to >> have lived next door to Ramsay Macdonald and it would be nice to know if >> this was fact or fiction. >> Good luck, >> >> Tony Savery >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> >> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:59 AM >> Subject: [MORAY] Geddes >> >> >> > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who married Margaret HENDERSON > in >> > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his marriage were James >> > GEDDES >> > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately I cannot find their >> > deaths >> > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even though it was about >> > 1861. >> > Any >> > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela >> > >> > >> > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or >> > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be >> > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== >> If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > found > at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > Please do not send virus warnings to this list. If you have concerns > about a virus, contact the list admin at MORAY-D-request@rootsweb.com or > join VIRUS-DISCUSSIONS-L@rootsweb.com subscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Denise, Here's the details. I've done the Fordyce OPR and Alyson Kelman has just kindly provided me all with the Keith ones she fortunately already had to hand. I'm sure she won't mind me passing these on. Colin FALCONER & Marjory GEDDES: Marriage: 22-6-1710 Keith Coline_ Falconar and Marjory Geddes (M111592 - no transcription) Details of their children all bpt Keith: 1. 2-10-1711 Andrew: b Keith 2nd bpt 3 Oct 1710. Wit.s "Mr Andrew Geddes Schoolmr at Esle and Andrew Mitchell in Westertown" 2. 12-4-1713 Mary: born & baptised 12 April 1713. Wit.s "Alexr Robertson younger in Keith and Hierom Spence in Haughs" 3. 26-7-1714 Margaret: b 20 bpt 21 July 1714. Wits "Mr Andrew Geddes Schoolmr at Esle & Alexr Rotson yr mert in Keith" 4. 10-9-1717 Alexander: "incomplete entry, no witnessess" 5. 24-12-1718 Barbara: b 23 bpt 24 Dec 1718. Wit.s "Alexr Robertson & Alexr Thain Merts there" [in Keith] 6. 11-2-1720 Colin: b 10 bpt 11 Feb 1720. Wits "Colin Falconar at Banff & Colin Petrie in Strathboggie, Katherine Gilchrist & Elizabeth Paterson" Details of their children all bpt Fordyce: 7. 21 Mar 1721 William: "21-3-1721 Colin Falconer & Marjory Geddes in Portsoy......Witnesses:,Wm Legg in Auchmore, & Mr Wm Robertson in Cullen." 8. 19 May 1723 Elspet: (no transcription) 9. 13 Jan 1725 Ann: "Colin Falconer & Marjory Geddes in Portsoy had a Lawful Daughter baptized called Ann. Witnesses: James Ogilvy James Robertson and James Martkis[?] all there." 10. 11 Aug 1727 David: "Colin Falconer & Marjory Geddes in Portsoy had a Lawful son baptized called David. Witnesses: David Brember & David Shand both there." I read the date as 21st, the IGI I think has 11th. 11. 22 Jan 1733 John: (no transcription) Andrew THAIN and Mary GEDDES, all Keith: 1. Alexander b 20 bpt 21 June 1709 Wit.s "Alexr Sutherland Elder of Kinminnity and Alexr Robertson elder and your Merts in Keith" 2. George b 23 bpt 24 March 1711. Wits "George Hamilton in Kmty [Kinminity], Geo: Sim elder in Newmilne, Geo: Frazer, Geo: Raphan & Geo: Thain there" 3. Andrew b 24 bpt 25 Sept 1712. Wits "Mr Andrew Geddes Schoolmr at Garmouth & Andrew Mitchell in Westertown" [mother's name written clearly as "Marjory"!] 4. Margaret b 3 bpt 4 Nov 1714. Wits "George Thain in Cuperhill & Hierom Spence in Haughs" 5. Marjory b 17 bpt 18 Nov 1716. Wits "Alexr Robertson in Keith & James Tarras mert there" 6. Janet b 21 bpt 24 Nov 1718. Wits "George Findlater officer of Excise & Alexr Tarras notar in Keith" 7. I've found another child found in the IGI, no transcription: JEAN THAIN b 02 DEC 1720 bpt 04 DEC 1720 Keith, Banff to ALEXR. THAIN and MARJORY GEDDES C111592 8. William b Edindaich 21 bpt Keith 22 Feb 1728. Wits "William Geddes mert in Elgin, Wm Taylor mert in Keith, Wm Taylor in Whitehillock, Janet Mitchell in Kirksel, Margaret Taylor in [illegible]" Note the gap 1720-1728. And another event: 15 April 1709 "Hugh Falconar in Keith had a child begotten in uncleaness to Margaret Henderson baptised and called Janet Witnesses George Thain in Couperhill and George Henderson in Ryrigs" 15 April 1709 (Blinschell copy) "Janett Falconer begotten in Fornication by Hugh Falconer was baptized. Witnesses George Thain in Cuperhill & George Henderson in Fordyce" [sic.] Many thanks to Alyson Kelman for all the Keith info. Regards Howard

Hi Tony I believe Lossiemouth is in the Parish of Drainie, Moray. St Andrews Lhanbryd and Elgin are separate parishes which are nearby. Lorna Wallace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Savery" <hi.tone@hetnet.nl> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [MORAY] Geddes > Hello Angela, > I believe I am right in saying that for searches for folk from Lossiemouth, > you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or Elgin. Please correct me if > I am wrong someone. I am myself trying to find where my great grandfather, > Joseph Forsyth Taylor,(born 1861) had lived in Lossiemouth. He was said to > have lived next door to Ramsay Macdonald and it would be nice to know if > this was fact or fiction. > Good luck, > > Tony Savery > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> > To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:59 AM > Subject: [MORAY] Geddes > > > > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who married Margaret HENDERSON in > > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his marriage were James > > GEDDES > > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately I cannot find their > > deaths > > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even though it was about 1861. > > Any > > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Hello Angela, I believe I am right in saying that for searches for folk from Lossiemouth, you have to look under St. Andrews Lhanbryde or Elgin. Please correct me if I am wrong someone. I am myself trying to find where my great grandfather, Joseph Forsyth Taylor,(born 1861) had lived in Lossiemouth. He was said to have lived next door to Ramsay Macdonald and it would be nice to know if this was fact or fiction. Good luck, Tony Savery ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: [MORAY] Geddes > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who married Margaret HENDERSON in > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his marriage were James > GEDDES > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately I cannot find their > deaths > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even though it was about 1861. > Any > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or > report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be > found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Angela Have you considered that John GEDDES may have been born illegitimately and that his birth is registered as John MORRISON? I checked the IGI and the only birth I could find to a Barbara MORRISON was on 21 Aug 1861 at Glasgow, Lanarkshire. It's a long shot, but it might be worth checking out. Lorna Wallace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela Kelly" <angkelly@aapt.net.au> To: <MORAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: [MORAY] Geddes > Anyone have a connection to John GEDDES who married Margaret HENDERSON in > Lossiemouth in 1885. His parents recorded in his marriage were James GEDDES > and Barbara MORRISON both deceased. Unfortunately I cannot find their deaths > nor does John's birth seem to be recorded even though it was about 1861. Any > suggestions would be gratefully received. Angela > > > ==== MORAY Mailing List ==== > If you need to unsub for your holidays, change your email address, or report anything to the admin of the list - all this information can be found at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/MORAY.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Hi everyone. I am trying to get additional information on the family of John Innes and Elspet Innes who were married on the 6 March 1800 in Inveravon. According to the IGI, it states that they had the following children: Isabella c: 13 Apr.1800, Alexander c: 13 Oct. 1801, Elizabeth c: 26 Oct. 1802, John c: 1 Jan.1805 and Charles c: 4 Aug.1807. Beatrice. I have also established through her death extract dated 11 Dec.1894 that Beatrice was also from that family. Based on her age at the time of her death, 89, she was born about 1805. She died in Knockandhu. Isabella. She died on the 16 June 1881 at the age of 80 in Knockandhu. Her death extract does confirm that Beatrice was her sister John. According to his death extract, he died on the 15 July 1863 at Sockach in the Parish of Aberlour at the age of 59. He was married to Ann Forbes. In all of the above cases, their parents were John Innes, crofter and Elspet Innes. Would anyone have any information on them. I believe that they were from Croftbain. From information that I have, I am trying to establish if either this John Innes or Elspet Innes were either brother or sister to me William Innes b: about 1778. As an afterthought, perhaps my friends at Aberloursearch might be able to help me in getting additional information on John who died 15 July 1863 in Aberlour. The informant indicated in his death extract was his nephew John Innes also residing in Aberlour. William in montreal